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Removal of instruments on first paragraph?
Is anyone against removing 'bass' for Brandon Flowers and 'rhythm guitar' for Mark Stroemer? The only time I can think of where they play those instruments is on For Reasons Unknown and I'm pretty sure one song doesn't do it. It should stay in the Band members, but it should probably gon when listed in the first paragraph.
Also maybe none of my business but couldn't this talkpage do with some cleanup? Solitude6nv5 (talk) 19:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
- This discussion is transcluded from Talk:The Killers/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Citation to reliable sources where necessary:
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:
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Comments on GA criteria
- Pass
- Has an appropriate reference section. SilkTork (talk) 18:56, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Stable. No edit wars, but article suffers from a high level of vandalism and inappropriate edits. Possibly needs semi-protecting. SilkTork (talk) 18:58, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Media has appropriate copyright tags. SilkTork (talk) 19:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- No obvious copyvio found. SilkTork (talk) 19:33, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Query
- There are a number of dubious quality images of the band live which may not comply with WP:IMAGE RELEVANCE. There is a media clip which does not have a rationale for use in this article, and it's use here is unclear. SilkTork (talk) 19:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Prose is clunky and unhelpful, it doesn't flow. This is possibly a fail. SilkTork (talk) 19:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- The Activism and philanthropy section seems a little excessive and promotional, giving undue weight to minor matters. A number of statements are unsourced, such as "While "A Dustland Fairytale" was written as a tribute to frontman Brandon Flowers' parents, his mother had recently been diagnosed with terminal cancer", making it difficult to assess neutrality and original research. SilkTork (talk) 04:49, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Fail
- Lead. To meet GA criteria 1(b), which relates to specific manual of style guidelines, the article needs to comply with the advice in WP:LEAD. That is, in addition to being an introduction, the lead needs to be an adequate overview of the whole of the article. As a rough guide, each major section in the article should be represented with an appropriate summary in the lead. Also, the article should provide further details on all the things mentioned in the lead. And, the first few sentences should mention the most notable features of the article's subject - the essential facts that every reader should know. SilkTork (talk) 19:13, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Has been tagged as needing citation since January 2019. A number of challengeable statements, such as "In the same month, the band's Tim Burton-directed video for the album's second single, "Bones", won Best Video at the NME Awards", need citation to reliable sources. SilkTork (talk) 19:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Broad coverage. The Musical style section does not explain adequately or appropriately the musicianship of the band, what form of music they play, if they are musically original or derivative, what their influences are, or who they have influenced in turn. Are any of the members of the band known for their musical talent? Do any of them have notable or named instruments? SilkTork (talk) 04:53, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Comments
- This was listed as a GA 11 years ago, and it looks like it hasn't been well maintained, so I'm taking a closer look. SilkTork (talk) 18:46, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- Some links, such as the tours, return here. SilkTork (talk) 19:10, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- The "Musical style" section is simply a list. This needs explaining for readers. SilkTork (talk) 19:25, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- The "Official members timeline" appears to be pointless. SilkTork (talk) 19:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
On hold
- The article was listed as a Good Article 11 years ago, but doesn't meet current GA standards. Mainly, it lacks inline citations to reliable sources, though there are a number of other issues which indicate that the article would benefit from a thorough copyedit and rebuild. The lead in particular needs work, as does the Musical style section. I will notify significant contributors and related projects, and put this on hold for seven days to see what happens. SilkTork (talk) 04:56, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Esprit15d comments
My involvement with this article has been sporadic over the years, but I was notified of this nomination. My area of expertise is references, so I'll do what I can to bring them up to speed.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 01:33, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your contributions Esprit15d, though I'm now having to close this as delist as there has been no work from anyone since Nov 25th, and the article is still tagged as needing sources. SilkTork (talk) 11:24, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
- I completely understand.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:51, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
Tours
Links to tours redirect back to the main article. On looking into the links they have all been redirected from established and detailed articles on the tours because they are lacking sources. There's a fair deal of useful information that could be saved if people were interested in digging up some reliable sources that talk about those tours:
Here's one of the tour articles that wasn't redirected, with some indication of what sources to look for: Wonderful Wonderful World Tour. SilkTork (talk) 09:04, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
- I have added cites to and restored Battle Born World Tour. SilkTork (talk) 16:40, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
The Killers To Be A Trio
I Want The Killers To Be A Rock Trio Allenkirk 555 (talk) 20:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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I Want The Killers To Be A Rock Trio Allenkirk 555 (talk) 20:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
I Want The Killers To Be A Three-Piece Band Or A Trio Too. Allenkirk 555 (talk) 20:10, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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remove and add dave keuning so the killers became three piece band 2A02:C7F:C216:6100:79D0:AFA3:6362:A27C (talk) 11:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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the killers is a three piece, i like the killers to be rock trio or three piece band. 2A02:C7F:C216:6100:79D0:AFA3:6362:A27C (talk) 11:47, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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I Want The Killers To Be A Trio, I Like the Killers to be in a rock trio! Brettandelle (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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