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Merge proposal

Patarine and Pataria cover the same subject. I don’t have any clear view on what the merged article should be called, though I incline towards Paterines. —Ian Spackman 21:49, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe I'm biassed, but I favour "Pataria", the name of the movement over the name of the individuals of the movement (which also varies in spelling). Srnec 03:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Most people encountering the movement through historical books (e.g. the works of R.I. Moore) will encounter the word "Patarenes", I would suggest that as the most likely users of the page this could be adopted 129.67.129.33 (talk) 08:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pataria and Cathars

You say Pataria was influenced by Cathars: however pataria exploded in 1070, whilst the first evidence of Cathars dates to 1143. Lele giannoni (talk) 12:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

It is not that unclear, at least, Encyclopedia.com claims Pataria was the name of a quarter of Milan, and Vilfrido Pareto claimed it was a poor quarter. This makes perfect sense, that poor people would start a movement against corruption and greed, and their opponents would dub them the equivalent of "slum-dwellers".

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 ==Pataria and Cathars==
 You say Pataria was influenced by Cathars: however pataria exploded in 1070, whilst the first evidence of Cathars dates to 1143. [[User:Lele giannoni|Lele giannoni]] ([[User talk:Lele giannoni|talk]]) 12:54, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
+==Etymology==
+It is not that unclear, at least, Encyclopedia.com claims Pataria was the name of a quarter of Milan, and Vilfrido Pareto claimed it was a poor quarter. This makes perfect sense, that poor people would start a movement against corruption and greed, and their opponents would dub them the equivalent of "slum-dwellers".