Talk:List of Blackadder episodes

This article was nominated for deletion on December 18, 2005. The result of the discussion was speedy keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.

Overview of this article

Since the Blackadder article is now rather large, it seems sensible to move the list of episodes to a new article, which I have started doing. Whilst this initially means copying over article content verbatim, I hope to rewrite the episode summaries. Of course, if any other users wish to help, please do so! --Lox (t,c) 20:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm reasonably happy with the rewritten summaries, hope others find this to be a useful page! --Lox (t,c) 13:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

The Black Adder episode titles

Does anybody know why in series 1, episode 2 Born to be King has the number 4 over the top of the episode title, and episode two The Queen of Spain's Beard has 2? Presumably they were originally intended to be in this order, but that seems somewhat unlikely. Bob Castle 23:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Just wondering which release of the series you have seen this on (TV, VHS or DVD?) - I don't seem to have the same version as you, since my old tapes have "2" above "Born to be King" and "4" above "The Queen of Spain's Beard"--Lox (t,c) 19:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I've just bought a 5 DVD special box sold at Spain and also the Born to be king has a number 4 over it on the on-screen caption. --81.36.250.193 08:15, 1 July 2006 (UTC) (ca:entfe001)

Some of the confusion over this may come from the order in which they were filmed as opposed to the order in which they were aired. I know that in the US this series was originally shown on the A&E network with The Queen of Spain's Beard shown as Ep 2 and Born to be King as Ep4. and the numbers on the eps also matched this. But, as the table shows the original UK showing was the reverse of this. When the series moved to PBS here in the US they were shown in the UK airing order and the opening credits numbering was changed to match this. This was apparent as they were shown in a black or white circle which covered up what they had been previously been (the other four episodes numbers don't have this circle). As they episodes were released in the VHS, and later DVD, formats it would depend on the version transferred as to which set of numbers were used. This is all somewhat confusiing but the US has a history of airing programs in their production number order and not their story (or UK airing) order. I have seen episodes of Doctor Who and Eastenders (try watching a soap opera where things that happen in this weeks eps come before things you saw last week or the week before!) shown totally out of order in my time. One last note A&E also showed Head before Bells.MarnetteD | Talk 15:33, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The episode list is wrong. I have the first 5 episodes taped from the original screenings. "...Spain's Beard" was transmitted second, "...King" was fourth.Sambda 23:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you tape them in the US? As I stated above the arder that they showed them over here us different than the order that they showed themn in the UK. The order that is on the main page is the order that they showed them in the UK as that is where they were broadcast first. There are several websites that back up this airing order. MarnetteD | Talk 00:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

You are incorrect. I still have the original tape of the first 5 episodes as originally aired in UK in 1983. Most web-sites have it wrong (probably because they all just copied each other!) - and "several websites back up..." is not good enough for Wiki, I'm afraid. The "Cunning" book has it right - a far more official source.Sambda 14:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The first question is what are you playing these tapes on (and are they beta?) as the machines used in 1983 and their parts are long gone from most places. But, all of that aside, if what you are saying is correct my suggestion is that you click on the link above that will take you to the wikiproject Blackadder and present your evidence (they are good people who like taking care of these pages). I am afraid that you will find that google searches of other websites IS what wikiP relies on. I have resolved some misinformation on shows and films by going to my local library and digging into the microfilm files of my cities newspapers and that may be your best bet, in that, if you can find the listing in the 'Radio Times' from 1983 for the episodes in question that will clinch it one way or the other. Good luck and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 17:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I am playing the tape on a VHS machine. The machines used in 1983 may indeed be gone, but a modern VHS deck will play the tapes just as well!?! The only difference is that, back then, there was no hi-fi sound - only the linear edge track. Also, probably the LP speed may not have been in the specs back then (can't remember). I will grab the opening to the second ep and post it somewhere (the numbering on the opening is also different - you can see where they fixed it later on!), and then it's up to you lot whether you want to perpetuate the right or wrong info. I really can't be bothered with all the library stuff!Sambda 22:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

De-Linking Dates

Suggestion was made by Bookgrrl to delink dates (see Wikipedia's link guidelines). Basic reasoning is that when you follow one of those links it contains nothing to do with blackadder (as good as blackadder is its airings aren't quite important enough to be listed alongside other world events).

Images ???

Are they needed? Are they relevant and useful? Check the Link up the top about fair use rationale of images. Personally I don't think they are required as they don't really show much and whilst they look nice they don't really offer any information. I wouldn't mind a picture of the DVD covers for each season, but screenshots aren't required IMO. --frendy 07:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps not on this episode list but, as you know, Wikiproject Blackadder intends to write an article for each episode, and these screenshots will be used there, where they will class as fair use. Thus, they should not be removed for the time being because removing them will class them as "orphans" and they will be deleted by Orphanbot or something similar. Bob 09:08, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Removing duplicate info

Can/should the season 2 material be removed now that we have articles for all the Season Two episodes? Seems that eventually all the info should go to the various episode articles and this page should be nothing BUT a plain and simple list, right? --Bookgrrl 16:25, 9 September 2006 (UTC)