Talk:Crime in Germany

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Current figures

I wonder whether these facts are current. Given that there is no D-Mark in Germany since January 2002 the chapter "Albanian Mafia" sounds a bit out of date. --178.6.20.83 (talk) 14:54, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

— The whole typology on organised crime in this article is not only outdated, it is also strongly biased. The sources do not represent a clear or neutral position. One example for this is the use of tabloid paper stories as a primary reference. It is thus suggested to update the list with neutral sources. --Pathofdhamma (talk) 18:05, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Due to omerta, it is practically impossible to get watertight proof. All you can do is look at convictions, which are rare and only show the tips of the icebergs, or see what happens in your environment, checking over 'coincidences', really? When my brother had died in an apartment fire in 2008 in Berlin-Schöneberg (Ansbacher Straße) it turned out to have been the first of two fires. A new landlord had wanted all tenants out and my brother had fought it. I had known the former owners and did not think they were the kind who'd sell out to a new Italian company. They were newly arrived in Berlin, naming computer files about the apartments they wanted to sell there in Italian. So my brother died in the middle of the night and naturally the death was not investigated because he was only a 60 year old unemployed - maybe the investigators knew with whom they were dealing? One week after his death there was a second fire sending all remaining tenants fleeing, and 2 days later the tradies could come in as scheduled for the renovations. I can believe my late brother burned himself in a suicide, but I can also believe that the new landlord sent the heavies in the middle of the night, hit my borther over the head, spread the petrol and torched it all. The enormous financial gains of the crime groups must find a legit home, and I certainly believe that the purchase of the apartment building, kicking out tenants to sell the flats is what happened here. From my time in Germany I can also confirm the sentence of political parties and businesses being corrupt through and through. 58.174.224.15 (talk) 05:57, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

A note

to people who wish to do some editing (I, at the moment, don't): of course the material on organized crime is probably, if known to the authorities at all, classified; but there's any year a Crime Statistics report, which gives some detail. Requires knowledge of German and roughly of German penal law. See here.--88.217.180.31 (talk) 01:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Wrong agency

"Although this is well-known to German security authorities, such as the (Bundesnachrichtendienst)
"Bundesnachrichtendienst" is the wrong "security authority", it's the "Bundespolizei" (BPOL) and "Verfassungsschutz" (BfV and LfV). --DerElektriker (talk) 08:07, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Property Crimes?

Where are property crimes? Is there no theft in Germany? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.176.43.70 (talk) 13:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Crime in Germany is combated by the German Police and other agencies.

What about listing the agencies?Xx236 (talk) 08:12, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

The federal level Bundeskriminalamt and the state level Landeskriminalamt should at least be mentioned. 1Kwords (talk) 16:55, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Bad immigrants and good Germans

Only foreign criminal organisations are described. Does it mean that ethnic Germans don't create such organisations?

Car theft was multinational and Germans participated if not controlled it, but believedthat Poles were responsible.Xx236 (talk) 10:17, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Come off it. Of course there are Germans involved in organised crime. The lack of balance in this article is comparable with that in the Immigration and crime in Germany article. Deb (talk) 08:30, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

They had and have some right and left wing terrorist organisations but in general make Germans very little crime. There is no German "mafia" or anything like it. The contrast between fairly spread foreign criminal organisations and domestic is probably the reason why obly foreign are mentioned. Ddelete013 (talk) 07:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Gun crime 2017 report by BKA

The BKA has a report on gun crime, it has some useful statistics. 1Kwords (talk) 23:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/panorama/kriminalitaet/id_14299166/kriminalitaet-20-millionen-illegale-schusswaffen-in-deutschland.html 1Kwords (talk) 07:54, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Violence against police officers from BKA

Find the report here. Happy editing! 1Kwords (talk) 05:59, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Is this a FUD piece?

I have to say the current state of the article is horrible. It reads like a right wing populist FUD piece, supporting fear from minorities such as foreigners, pushing opinion without stating any creditable source (or any at all)

A good source with some semi current figures might be crime in Germany drops 10 percent in 2017

The data quoted by that article are taken from the Annual German Federal Police Report: report 2017 report 2018 other years published by the Federal_Criminal_Police_Office_(Germany) --Corvus v Corax (talk) 16:22, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

I strongly agree. The article has an obvious anti-immigrant or anti-minority bias, like many crime related articles on Wikipedia. Hunan201p (talk) 17:40, 15 February 2020 (UTC)