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August 27

article submission

hi my username is wikipublish7 and I just edited an article about a famous basketball player name yvan ouedraogo, the precedent draft was declined because the person who did it, did it really bad without enough informations, and I need you to review my article because this player deserve a wikipedia article as much as the other basketball player of his level who already have one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Yvan_Ouedraogo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipublish7 (talk • contribs) 02:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikipublish7, it appears the draft has been resubmitted for review already. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Wikipublish7: a reviewer reviews a draft based on the information provided in the draft. The reviewer does not try to find additional information. If there are additional sources, then they should be cited in the draft. Since the draft did not provide enough information to establish notability by our definition the submission was declined. Please see WP:NSPORT. See WP:CSMN for common mistakes in sourcing. -Arch dude (talk) 04:09, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Wildcat Strikes

Wildcat Strikes Last for days and even weeks and could Last forever. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, but if there is information missing from an article, you should start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 04:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Forever? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Using an example from a paper/textbook or thesis

Hello, I wanted to use a numerical example I found in a thesis (about calculating a quantity called GBE). What is the best way of citing a source in situations like this that I want to use their calculation in an article? For example, here, it is said Consider an example adopted from John Bitzan’s Transportation Economics Notes, Let X be a binary variable that is equal to 1.... Can I just use a similar language and cite the source? Is that enough according to Wikipedia policies and guidelines? Thank you for your help. Pirehelo (talk) 03:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pirehelokan: I haven't done writing in this field, but the first thing that strikes me is that enwiki is not supposed to write using the "we" and "consider" prevalent in math texts (see WP:TONE in general and MOS:MATH#TONE more specifically). I think it can be re-phrased and cited to the source, like any subject. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 19:53, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Then what about this text in the article homeomorphism?

The third requirement, that ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ be continuous, is essential. Consider for instance the function ${\textstyle f:[0,2\pi )\to S^{1}}$ (the unit circle in ${\textstyle \mathbb {R} ^{2}}$) defined by${\textstyle f(\phi )=(\cos \phi ,\sin \phi )}$. This function is bijective and continuous, but not a homeomorphism (${\textstyle S^{1}}$ is compact but ${\textstyle [0,2\pi )}$ is not). The function ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ is not continuous at the point ${\textstyle (1,0)}$, because although ${\textstyle f^{-1}}$ maps ${\textstyle (1,0)}$ to ${\textstyle 0}$, any neighbourhood of this point also includes points that the function maps close to ${\textstyle 2\pi }$, but the points it maps to numbers in between lie outside the neighbourhood.

It contains the word "consider". How should it be written in the correct tone?

And on a related note, although you don't necessarily see it here, on my screen the article text splits "${\textstyle 2\pi }$" and "," on separate lines, causing what appears to be a typography error. How can they be forced to be on the same line? JIP | Talk 20:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@JIP:, @AlanM1: Thank you for your answers. My bigger concern is about the way citing the source. Should we explicitly mention the source of the example or just citing it is enough? Thanks again. Pirehelo (talk) 21:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pirehelokan: If the article is about the math, and not really about how that person contributed to it, the cite should be enough. If his contribution were key to the result, it might be worth mentioning him in the prose.

@JIP: I try to start formulas on a new line so they have as much room as possible. I'll note that the formula above does not break for me – the whole thing appears on one line or the next (Win10/Firefox). You could try wrapping it in {{Nowrap|<math> ... </math>}} like this: ${\textstyle f:[0,2\pi )\to S^{1}}$

—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:26, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I know the formula doesn't break for everyone. Not everyone is using the same window size as I am. But anyway, thanks for the suggestion about nowrap. JIP | Talk 00:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Pirehelo (talk) 05:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Sushant Singh Rajput death or murder

discuss at Talk:Death of Sushant Singh Rajput

It is under investigation, so don't mention by "hanging" , this is total arbitrary to write on one's death which is under investigation.157.32.141.230 (talk) 05:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Source - open YouTube , Google it , read newspaper. This is more appropriate for Talk:Sushant Singh Rajput or Talk:Death of Sushant Singh Rajput. You will need specific reliable sources to support your claim, not just "Google it". – Teratix ₵ 05:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Please also see #Containt is not correct above and read / follow the links there. Eagleash (talk) 09:29, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

How do I create a new Wikipedia article for my grandfather?

Can someone please talk me through step by step how I create anew Wikipedia article on my Grandfather? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlesbarlin (talk • contribs) 07:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Charlesbarlin: I've written this set of instructions, as part of a larger guide covering a variety of issues new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Ayurveda (2)

Sir, I want to request you to modify introduction part of Wikipedia Ayurveda page. In this page it is mentioned Ayurveda as pseudoscientific, protoscience and quackery. Which is not true. Ayurveda is origin of medicine and surgery and base on scientific theory. The Indian Medical Association have no right to say anything on Ayurvedic system of medicine.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ 47.29.202.178 (talk • contribs) 27 August 2020 07:19 (UTC)

The content is sourced. Wikipedia relies on what the sources state. See #Ayurveda section above and for anyone interested there is also a thread at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Talk:Ayurveda. Curious that a national medical association has 'no right' to comment on matters related to medicine. Eagleash (talk) 09:50, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Issue uploading my companies new logo

Hi there,

I am having issues uploading my companies new logo onto our page.

Can you please help.

Thanks,

Will — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoBeZa (talk • contribs) 07:51, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

For us to offer help, we will need to know the nature of the issue. New users can't upload images right away. I'm not sure if you are aware of the steps described at WP:UPIMAGE? You may need to make a request at Files For Upload. 331dot (talk) 07:58, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@331dot: they seem to have run into an abusefilter on commons. The main question is a) is CoBeZa allowed to license the logo of this company under a CC license; b) if he can, is this truely what he wants (CC-BY-SA 4.0 is very free anc c) can it be tagged as {{own}}. If it cannot, OTRS permission is probbably required. (Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and cannot give legal advice. If you have questions about copyright law, ask a lawyer of your trust.) Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:35, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, CoBeZa. Unless you want anybody to be able to reuse or alter your logo for any purpose, I don't think you want to release it under a free licence. Logos are often uploaded to Wikipedia itself as non-free images - see logos. Because of your Conflict of interest you should make an edit request on the talk page of the article about your company (which is not your page, by the way), giving a link to where the new logo can be found. But you must first make the mandatory declaration of yourself as a paid editor. --ColinFine (talk) 11:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Abt wikipedia

Just tell me abt wikipedia.org.plz direct connect on my webpage.thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.76.68.230 (talk) 10:31, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no Wikipedia associated with the language code "abt". Lyou may want to search The Wikipedia Homepage with a list of all Wikipedias. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Victor Schmidt - I think the language issue is more that the question is asking to "Just tell me about wikipedia.org"; although I have no idea wat the second sentence is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:44, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

If its that, i recommend having a look at Wikipedia:About or Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:45, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I think "plz direct connect on my webpage" means "contact me directly on my web page". Too bad the OP didn't tell us where their web page is. Or maybe they meant their user talk page? JIP | Talk 12:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Considering that they created User talk:106.76.68.230 a few hours ago, that seems a likely interpretation, JIP. --ColinFine (talk) 15:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Photo upload

Hello, I need help from confirmed users to upload photos to pages I have just created. Thank you SD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apollocat92 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Apollocat92: Welcome to Wikipedia. Please make this request at WP:FFU, or you can use the link there to upload to commons without being autoconfirmed. RudolfRed (talk) 17:05, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Deleted BLP and copyright

My first BLP article was deleted due to copyright from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_E._Letendre

The Unviersity of Iowa owns the copyright for this content and I am publishing on behalf of the University of Iowa. Can you provide examples of an acceptable form of evidence, or guide me to information related to evidence of ownership? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Delabra (talk • contribs) 18:18, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Donating copyrighted materials. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Delabra: Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for wanting to add to the encyclopedia, but please be sure to read WP:COI and WP:PAID. There are disclosures you need to make since you are affiliated with the subject you are writing about. RudolfRed (talk) 19:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Also, Delabra, even if you can sort out the copyright issue, it is very unlikely that material belonging to the University is appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia has basically no interest in anything that the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or that their associates, employers, or institutions say about them. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and have not been prompted or provided information by the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject. Furthermore, material published by the university is unlikely to meet Wikipedia's requirements of neutrality. --ColinFine (talk) 23:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@David Biddulph:: Thank you.

@RudolfRed:: Thank you.

@ColinFine:: Thank you. I understand and I am familiar with the concepts you raise. This effort started as a way for me to learn my way around Wikipedia using information that I'm familiar with. It's not part of my official job description, so I'll just move on and find a different topic.

Editing Wiki

Hello,

Please where do I start - I need easy pages to begin my journey into the world of wiki editing.

I have passed the adventure TWA now I want to go into real business - and get my hands dirty real quick. Any ideas?LaDinky (talk) 19:48, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@LaDinky: take a look at Wikipedia:Basic copyediting and the pages linked from it. And thanks! -Arch dude (talk) 22:54, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Arch_dude Thank you! I appreciate. LaDinky (talk) 09:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Dr Linda Campbell

Dr. Campbell is the Director of the Environment at St Mary's University in Halifax, NS. Along with being Senior Fellow she is deaf and has served on many boards for the environment and representing the deaf. She is a trustee at St Mary's university but on the Board of Trustees of Gallaudet in Washington D.C. She has served on the Canadian Hearing Society's Provincial Board and was Chair of the Governance Committee and was on 2014-2015 Chief Executive search committee. She was the 2009-20 President of the International Great Lakes Research. Her research is focused on containments and sustainability of the water supply. Before arriving at St. Mary's she was a Tier II Canadian Research Chair at Quenn's University Kingston Ontario.

References https://smu.ca/about/board-of-governors-members.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Lp Fairweather (talk • contribs) 23:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@David Lp Fairweather: I think you're better off visiting this page Wikipedia:Requested articles. There's a bit of a backlog though. If you're feeling more adventurous, you could visit Wikipedia:Articles for creation, to start an article. The help desk is for specific editing questions. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:30, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

August 28

Vague article made by bot in the Cebuano language

I'm sorry that I know nothing about editing wikipedia, but I do lots in OpenStreetMaps. Through the OsmAnd app I found this wiki article: [[1]]

It's an uninhabited archaeological site in North-East England. The page is written only in the Cebuano language of the Philippines and gives only very general data gleaned from geographical databases. It doesn't mention why the site is of interest, e.g. http://www.keystothepast.info/article/10339/Site-Details?PRN=D1840

I have been as close as the undergrowth would allow to this site in the last two months. The information in the article is irrelevant.

I will be happy to learn how to contribute to wikipedia, but I can't work out how to do it in a page written in Cebuano!

I apologise if this is not the right way to ask - I tried to find less demanding ways, but I'm naive to this. Thank you!--Spf43adx (talk) 03:12, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Here on the English Wikipedia, we have three articles with a similar name listed at Castlesteads. You are free to improve any of them. The Cebuano language article seems to be about a castle in County Durham, although we don't seem to have a corresponding article here. If you click on the coordinates in the Cebuano article and bring up a map, you find open fields but no castle. I have doubts about the accuracy of that article. Regardless, that is a matter for the Cebuano WP which is a separate project. MB 03:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Spf43adx: This is a surprisingly complicated situation. First, each Wikipedia it its own separate project, with separate administrators, policies, and guidelines. I do not know how OpenStreetMaps selects which Wikipedia language to use for any particular location. Next, the Cebuano Wikipedia is one of the largest by article count, because its administrator(s) choose to use mass machine translations of articles from (at least) the English Wikipedia, with almost no validation of the result. This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia. -Arch dude (talk) 03:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Arch dude, I said that in a tweet, and was corrected: it's a bot, but not machine translation. https://twitter.com/LarsXensen/status/1298422703859404802?s=20 (and linked article on vice.com). --ColinFine (talk) 10:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I enjoyed reading this question/alert: it's so un-humdrum. Here is a list of editors of English-language Wikipedia who say that they're proficient in Cebuano. Each may or may not edit Cebuano-language Wikipedia too. You might choose one who seems "active" (one whose list of "contributions" shows recent edits here) and informally bring up the matter on their talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 06:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

PS I took a look. Well, half those people haven't contributed in years, and the selection was simple. Pinging Emperork! Emperork, I see that you're a (very!) rare contributor to ceb:Wikipedia, but perhaps you could comment on might have happened in ceb:Castle Steads. (And if you can't ... well, I just hope that this mystery fascinates you as much as it fascinates me.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:26, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Pinging the main author of the Castle Steads article @Lsj:, who answers questions in English on their Cebuano talk page ceb:Hisgot_sa_Gumagamit:Lsj. There is also an embassy page at ceb:Hisgot sa Wikipedia:Embahada which I found by looking at the Ceb Wikipedia main page and which should be able to answer questions on Ceb Wikipedia in English. TSventon (talk) 11:56, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

My guess is that the Cebuano Wikipedia generated ceb:Castle Steads from sv:Castle Steads, since that is the only other Wikipedia in the Castle Steads Wikidata item. -Arch dude (talk) 16:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

According to the article I linked above, the bot generates articles directly from Wikidata. --ColinFine (talk) 16:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Based on that article, I think the Lsjbot started with data from GeoNames and added both the Swedish and Cebuano articles. The existence of the articles then caused magic to occur to produce the Wikidata item. Reading Google's translation into English of the Swedish article, it looks like the entire article (except for the initial incorrect assertion of the existence of an actual castle) can be generated from the geolocation alone. -Arch dude (talk) 16:59, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging me @Hoary:. About this one @Spf43adx:, yes I am proficient with Cebuano and checked the article (I rarely contribute though in CEB WP). I found the same observations with what was mentioned above. Let me know how I can help to sort it out. Cheers! — Emperork (talk) 18:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I think this this query could be retitled "Cebuano Wikipedia" to make it easier to find information on ceb wiki in the Helpdesk archive.

@Emperork:, @Lsj:, what should en wiki editors do if they find an error in a bot written article in ceb wiki (or sv wiki)? In this case the ceb and sv articles seem to have been based on an error in (or misinterpretation of) Geonames.

@Spf43adx:, if you wanted to add a mention of Castle Steads to en wiki, there is an existing article on Esh Winning. I haven't seen enough information to justify a stand alone article. TSventon (talk) 21:55, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I can offer to rewrite (to correct) it on the ceb wiki should there be enough references provided by Spf43adx (talk · contribs). I rarely contribute there though and I'm not sure if editors/administrator there are still active. — Emperork (talk) 22:20, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I would suggest deleting the ceb and sv articles and the wikidata item unless Spf43adx really wants to write an article. Alternatively, if they wrote one or more sentences (with reference(s)) then the first sentence of each article could be replaced. TSventon (talk) 23:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm very grateful for the responses. It's not OpenStreetMaps itself that selected this Wikipedia article, but the OsmAnd project, a mobile app for OpenStreetMap. It can download abbreviated Wikipedia articles for points of interest for use offline. I have no knowledge of Castle Steads, County Durham, beyond the extra link I posted and that I can confirm there is no significant structure above ground apart from nettles preventing one from getting close! Spf43adx (talk) 02:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Spf43adx:, In this case I would suggest deleting the articles as I don't think ceb wiki or sv wiki need an article about a field of nettles in England. More generally ceb wiki has a lot of bot written articles like this one so OsmAnd should probably consider not downloading ceb wiki articles outside the Philippines. Wikipedia is based on information found in reliable sources, not on original research by editors, so any changes to articles need to be referenced to a reliable source. The detailed rules vary from project to project as we have seen. TSventon (talk) 08:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Table formatting

Hello,

My wiki markup isn't great - is there a way I can center a table? By default it is on the left. Thanks! Giraffer (munch) 08:31, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Giraffer, Look into HELP:TABLECENTER. → Timbaaa_talk 08:38, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

SCIENCE

SCIENCE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.160.17.70 (talk) 11:34, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 11:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Chemistry

Vital theory — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.205.112.158 (talk) 12:44, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 13:45, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Jacob Blake Shooting Is An Act Of War

They Keep Talking About Sporting Events Being Cancelled becuase this Jacob Blake Shooting Is An Act Of War. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 13:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 13:45, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

help to complete the final step of publishing my wikipedia article

hello! I just finished writing my article and the button for "submit this article for review" is missing. can you please help me out and add my article "Timeblock" to the draft space or add the button for me so I can move it, so it can be reviewed. Thanks so much in advanced!

Greetings, Treehouse135 Treehouse135 (talk) 14:50, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Courtesy link: User:Treehouse135/Timeblock. Please be aware that Wikipedia requires high standards of verifiability for medical claims, and is therefore a particularly poor place to try to promote quack medical products. Maproom (talk) 15:04, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Editing: citing a book; volume #  ???

The cite book template in the edit box does not have a "volume" field, yet a huge number of reference works are multi-volume. E.g. Encyclopedia Britannica, in which each volume begins with page 1. There are 20 different pages 1, 100 200, etc. in my copy. Am I missing something? Is there a volume field? Am I expected to understand that I should put "823a vol. 3" in the page field? Nick Beeson (talk) 17:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Nwbeeson since you specifically mentioned Encyclopedia Brittanica, I'll first point out the existence of {{Cite encyclopedia}}, which does have a volume field. That's what I would use to cite an encyclopedia, were I to do so (although as a tertiary source it should be avoided - but there are times we use it). But more to your point, {{Cite book}} does have a volume field. It's just not one of the fields that's included in the version you get from the drop down box above the edit window. The full set of (largely optional) parameters for Cite book is {{cite book |last1= |first1= |author-link1= |last2= |first2= |author-link2= |last3= |first3= |author-link3= |last4= |first4= |author-link4= |last5= |first5= |author-link5= |display-authors= |author-mask1= |author-mask2= |author-mask3= |author-mask4= |author-mask5= |last-author-amp= |translator-last1= |translator-first1= |translator-link1= |translator-last2= |translator-first2= |translator-link2= |display-translators= |translator-mask1= |translator-mask2= |date= |year= |orig-year= |chapter= |script-chapter= |trans-chapter= |chapter-url= |chapter-format= |editor1-last= |editor1-first= |editor1-link= |editor2-last= |editor2-first= |editor2-link= |editor3-last= |editor3-first= |editor3-link= |editor4-last= |editor4-first= |editor4-link= |editor5-last= |editor5-first= |editor5-link= |display-editors= |title= |script-title= |trans-title= |url= |url-status= |url-access= |format= |type= |series= |language= |volume= |others= |edition= |location= |publisher= |publication-date= |page= |pages= |at= |nopp= |arxiv= |asin= |bibcode= |doi= |doi-broken-date= |isbn= |ismn= |issn= |jfm= |jstor= |lccn= |mr= |oclc= |ol= |osti= |pmc= |pmid= |rfc= |ssrn= |zbl= |id= |archive-url= |archive-date= |access-date= |via= |lay-url= |lay-source= |lay-date= |lay-format= |quote= |name-list-format= |mode= |postscript= |ref=}}C You obviously don't need all of those for all books, so the version from the drop down box only gives you the most commonly used ones. Just add <nowiki>|volume=3 into the template and it should work.~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:25, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I have been editing for a very long time and am completely familiar with {{cite book}}. My question was, "Why is it not in the 'Edit' page Citation pop-up for books. I thought I might be missing something obvious. Nick Beeson (talk) 15:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Automatic translations

Wikipedia partners with Google Translate (https://wikimediafoundation.org/news/2019/01/09/you-can-now-use-google-translate-to-translate-articles-on-wikipedia/ ) and the Malaysian bahasa translation is just largely created through automatic translators. Users are not yet necessary and they have started to be selected not on the basis of personal ethics and engagement in the project, but something like personal opinions and competencies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.14.138.79 (talk) 17:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi! This is the help desk for the English Wikipedia, not for other language projects. You are referring to WP:CXT which is a tool for translating articles between wikis, but only uses Google translate as a guide. As with all wikis, they are editable by everyone - but CXT requires some additional experience. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Wiki link

Is this the correct way to link? #Later Life: Irene Triesch (link)? I've never seen it before. It doesn't look "right". Maineartists (talk) 18:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Maineartists: Use double brackets like this: [[Frederic_Lamond_(pianist)#Later_life ]] RudolfRed (talk) 18:22, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Sorry. My bad, RudolfRed; I was talking about the actual link on the article page in the section: Later Life that links to "Irene Triesch". It doesn't look right. It's just a bare http. Maineartists (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Maineartists: Thanks for clarifying. Yes that should be a Wikilink instead of a URL. It is also wrong to use a Wikipedia as a reference. Feel free to clean it up. RudolfRed (talk) 19:56, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Q Article suggestion for Tasmania-based skincare brand Beauty and the Bees (3 references cited)

Hello,

I'm a paid part-time employee of Beauty and the Bees (and its men's line Professor Fuzzworthy), an Australian zero-waste hair and skincare company based in Hobart, Tasmania. Founded in 1993, the company has an international market that includes the U.S. Its products have been reviewed in GQ1, NY Magazine2 and other U.S./international publications. The company has also be cited by Warren Buffett's Business Week3 as a leader in the growing zero-waste shampoo market. Another point of interest is that Founder/CEO Jill Saunders is a long-term entrepreneur who received a late-in-life diagnosis of autism (Asperger Syndrome).

As a pioneering leader in zero-waste skincare and user of natural ingredients (90% or more--including Leatherwood Honey/Beeswax, Goat's Milk, lavender and dozens of essential oils used in their products are sourced from Tasmania), Beauty and the Bees should have a Wikipedia entry of its own, similar to Ethique ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethique ).

I realize that as an employee, it would be a conflict of interest for me to write the article and my understanding is that it's considered unethical to hire an outside writer to create the entry. What are our best options for developing an article that meets Wikipedia's standards w/o a conflict of interest?

Andy Smith

1. Laird, Grady, “Beauty Tested, Beast Approved.” Gentleman’s Quarterly Dec. 7, 2010 2. Notis, David “Everything I Use to Keep My Beard Perfectly Groomed,” New York Magazine May 24, 2019 3. “Global $150 Mn Zero Waste Shampoo Market, Competition, Forecast and Opportunities, 2023 - ResearchAndMarkets.com,” Business Wire, February 19, 2019.

Andymsmith (talk) 19:33, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Andysmith Two options:

1. Post those three sources (and any others you are aware of) on Wikipedia:Requested articles/Business and economics/Companies/A-E#B. It should be in alphabetical order by the name of the company. Be aware that volunteers write the articles that interest them, there are limited numbers of volunteers interested in writing about companies on that list, the more reliable sources provided the easier the article will be to write (therefore the more likely someone is to write it), and going that route may take quite a long time (some article requests have been on there for several years).
2. Declare your status as a paid editor following the directions provided at that link, then submit a draft through the articles for creation process. Be aware that writing an article from scratch is the hardest thing to do well on Wikipedia. Your article must demonstrate that Beauty and the Bees meets the criteria listed at WP:NCORP, and it must be written in a neutral point of view. It must not sound like a press release, advertisement, or anything that promotes the company or portrays it in an excessively positive (or negative) light. If you are going to go that route, I recommend you spend some time looking at and reading articles in Category:FA-Class company articles, as they represent Wikipedia's best work on articles about companies.

Whichever route you take, I wish you luck. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Mesker Park Zoo & Botanic Garden

How can I have my grandfather's name changed to the correct spelling? It is Gilmore, not Gilmour.

Please advise.

Thank you.

Robert Haynie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmauntel (talk • contribs) 19:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Rmauntel, it looks like you have fixed it. Welcome to Wikipedia! ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:00, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Glossary of Brazil investigative terms/Compact ToC

I've been discussing with creator User:Mathglot as to whether Glossary of Brazil investigative terms/Compact ToC is appropriate for WP:MAINSPACE. Can we get additional input or directed to the text in policy that would govern its namespace placement? Thanks, Ost (talk) 21:08, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I have always seen using this kind of TOC in categories only, moreover in Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC) is mentioned the Help:Section#Horizontal TOC. No one other template User:Mathglot, User:Ost316--Pierpao (talk) 11:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

User:Ost316--Pierpao (talk) 11:31, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Moved. Mathglot (talk) 19:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Centering text in the chart columns

I've been creating information charts/tables on Wikipedia lately, and I'd be really grateful if somebody told me how to center text in the columns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faris Al-Sahra67 (talk • contribs) 23:05, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@Faris Al-Sahra67: I notice this is your first contribution, so I'll ask "have you been through Help:Table"? If so, respond back maybe with an example of what you want to do and I'll try to give a more specific answer. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

August 29

Twinkle

I had a question about using Twinkle and using this tool to request the option I should have in my settings. Thanks. Tell me the full name of the tick removal option.Because I am editing with the tablet, I did not find the option. Thank you. Tell me the full name of the option.AppoWeb (talk) 01:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@AppoWeb: Would you rephrase your question please? I can't find a relevant mention of the word "tick" anywhere under WP:TWINKLE and it's sub-pages. What exactly are you trying to do (with Twinkle, presumably; wouldn't WT:TWINKLE be a better place to ask)? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 02:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: I meant turning on Twinkle, which I did myself and my problem was solved. Thank you very much, my good friend. AppoWeb (talk) 02:23, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Template:listen

When I do this:

Why does the bottom get cut off when I click on menu? Tested on Firefox, Chrome. IE and Edge.

Here is it with some text wrapped around it: same problem.

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum.

...but if I make the description long enough there is room for the menu:

--Guy Macon (talk) 02:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: I have no idea why, but the only difference between your code and the examples at {{Listen}} is that you use the "pos=left" parameter. I replaced it with "style=float:left", and it works:

-Arch dude (talk) 02:31, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Arch dude and Guy Macon: The diff between them is the "bad" one has class .mbox-small-left while the "good" one has class .mbox-small. There are several diffs between them, but the one that matters is that .mbox-small-left sets overflow:hidden, which causes the unwanted behavior (confirmed by disabling it in the console). Might be worth reporting the potentially inconsistent behavior. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 11:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Where would the best place to report it be? --Guy Macon (talk) 15:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Guy Macon: on the talk page of {{Listen}}. -Arch dude (talk) 16:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Template talk:Listen#Menu getting cut off --Guy Macon (talk) 17:10, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Saint Urho

I need to find a Finnish speaking editor to translate the first line of the Ode to Saint Urho at the Saint Urho article. Any ideas? Gandydancer (talk) 04:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

In the Saint Urho article, click on the interlanguage link for its Finnish version, and ask (in English) for help on the talk page there. The chance of a Finnish editor speaking English is quite high. Maproom (talk) 06:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

You could also look at this category of users who say they speak Finnish at a native-level, try and find a user who has been recently active, and ask them for help. Seagull123 Φ 09:14, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I had a look at that ode, and the Finnish language words there are so badly mangled they're barely recognisable. The ode is going to be rather difficult to translate even for native Finnish speakers. JIP | Talk 12:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

It's not Finnish - it's cod English, apart from the first few words, which appear to be a mangling of "yksi kaksi kolme (neljä) vii(si)" ("one two three (four) five"). --ColinFine (talk) 15:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

You got it! and thanks a lot. I'm from Minnesota and there are a lot of Finns that came from "the old country" to work in the iron mines in northern Minnesota. My Slovenian grandparents were from that generation so my friends and I were third generation. First generation Finns were looked down on by the Slovenians and even the Swedes but by the time my generation was growing up it had become sort of cool to be Finnish. So I did not actually hear the language spoken much, but I still knew how it sounded and how the accent sounded from Finnish jokes and old Finnish tales when told at events and such. As for the counting, I guessed that that is what those words meant because I'd heard them from Finnish classmates and all these years later it sort of rang a bell. Except for the first line I had no trouble at all in understanding all the words--and actually the authors did a darn good job of making it sound exactly as one would hear a person with a heavy Finnish accent speak them. I know what feelia and kala moyakka are. The soup is good but I'm not up to eating the fish eyes and the feelia is the most awful stuff imaginable. Perhaps I should translate the poem at the Saint Urho article since I thought it was easy enough, but apparently not. Thanks to all that have answered. Gandydancer (talk) 04:19, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Intersection Observer alternative

Hi!

Wikipedia recently changed the way lazy loading is implemented. It now makes use of the Intersection Observer API.

Many devices (for example all iOS devices below 12.2) do not support this API, which renders wikipedia almost unusable to read certain types of articles, particularly math related, since the fallback solution has the user tap a tiny tiny grey box for every image in the article. When it comes to math a single character in a sentence might be an image.

This is quite sad, since it changes wikipedia from the fastest and most reliable source of information, to a website you only visit if you don’t have any other options.

Is there any way to make wikipedia usable again on older devices? Maybe a way to disable lazy loading altogether, or make wikipedia use the old algorithm which actually worked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.129.217.229 (talk • contribs) 2020-08-29T10:29:38 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. This is not the best place for questions about the technoogy: this is for help in editing. I suggest you post your question to WP:VPT. --ColinFine (talk) 13:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Using Other People's Flickr Images

I'm editing Draft:Jatbula_Trail and it seems like I can use this image from flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/theholygrail/19631300499/ It's not my image but it has CC BY 2.0 licensing. What's the best way to do this? I could upload it to Wikimedia or Wikipedia, if I'm allowed? Canberranone (talk) 10:53, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Properly-licensed Flickr images can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, so that they can be used across all projects. The upload wizard has a provision for that, I believe. --Orange Mike | Talk 11:07, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Canberranone see C:Commons:Flickr2Commons--Pierpao (talk) 11:22, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

BLP referencing question

Quick BLP question - athlete has failed a doping control, and that statement is reference, but the reference is dead. What's the right template to stick next to it? I am looking to see if I can find a live reference but I am not optimistic. (Article is Aziz Lahbabi) Red Fiona (talk) 10:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

 Fixed @Redfiona99: Recovered cite from archive.is. In answer to your question, if needed, {{Dead link}}. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 11:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for both parts. I'd look at the archiving site I normally check and they didn't have it. I'll check archive.is as well in future. Red Fiona (talk) 15:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Awb replace moving one line forward

I'm a AWB bot user but I'm not so skilled. I need to insert in some pages a text in the last line before the categories line so I though to replace the string "category:xxxx with: the "text", the breaking line code and the string "category:xxxx" again. The question is which code use to move one line forward in replacement? Thanks a lot. Regards--Pierpao (talk) 11:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Pierpao: I'm not sure if I understand but if you want to insert "foo" above "[[Category A]]", you replace (using regexes) "\[\[\s*Category A\s*\]\]" with "foo\n\[\[Category A\]\]" (without the quotes). —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 11:43, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Right Thanks--Pierpao (talk) 12:18, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Gallery of Videos

Is it possible to create a GALLERY that includes several videos stored on Wikimedia commons? I know the <gallery> tag can be used for photos, but is there something for video files too? Thanks.

--Darren Wyn Rees (talk) 12:41, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Jim Watkins 8chan guy

Happy to help but would like to have a page about the owner of a top internet site. I know he testified for the U S congress so there must be some sort of referencable documents.

Happy to have your help. First, read WP:N carefully. Then, find those suitable references in reliable sources (WP:RS). Without them, please do not put in any further effort as it will be wasted. It's easy to mess this up: see WP:CSMN. If you find them, proceed to WP:YFA. -Arch dude (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Music

Can I hear music from the Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liliana joy (talk • contribs) 16:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Liliana joy: Not in the same way as you would from 'Jango' or other music streaming sites but some articles about songs do contain a brief clip of the music. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 16:40, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Historical populations template formatting

On the Dushanbe article which I have been working on recently I've had an issue with the historical populations template for the population section. I can see from the template page that you can put general references at the bottom, but is there a way to put the references right next to the year as there would be with the table? (this is because the population data comes from many different sources and it would be helpful to specify next to the year which sources refers to which year) I've kept the redundant table just to keep the references referring to a specific year. Zoozaz1 (talk) 18:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Can you please block someone called Urmomisfat100010001000

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.57.125.20 (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Note: User appears to be blocked. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:06, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm looking on his logs or talk page and there is nothing saying his blocked — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.57.125.20 (talk) 18:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

If you check his block log, you will see an indefinite block from 2013. This also appears in his contributions. Danski454 (talk) 18:31, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

IP: Why are you asking to block an account that was created, made 10 edits, and was blocked on one day nearly 7 years ago? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Which is the better document to cite?

A reference has recently been added to an article (Cadaver Synod) which I monitor, and I'd like to format it using the appropriate citation template. However, I'm not sure which source to use. The reference article was originally published in a popular magazine, and is stored in the University of Georgia's "Digital Commons" archive. There are three possibilities:

1. The article formatted as a PDF [2]. This (bare URL) is the current reference in our article.
2. A link to the university archive page [3]. This is the URL given in the formatted article as a recommended citation. It does not, however, give the text of the article.
3. The original magazine article [4]. This is linked from the archive page, but is less easy to read than the reformatted article and contains irrelevant material.

Any advice would be appreciated. Tevildo (talk) 18:19, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Tevildo. In my view, the important part of citation is the bibliographic information: title, author, date, where published. A URL is a convenience for the reader, not an integral part of the citation (except in the case of source which exists only as a website). It makes sense then to link to the most readily readable copy - provided that that copy is not itself a copyright violation, and preferably is hosted somewhere reliable. --ColinFine (talk) 19:11, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Tevildo: You reference the magazine, since that is where it was published. You then use the link to the PDF as the convenience URl as Colin said. -Arch dude (talk) 19:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the information, I've used the PDF link (#1 above). Tevildo (talk) 20:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Tevildo: (Note that 1 and 3 are the same document.) Since the PDF is not necessarily "easiest to read" on all platforms, I like to include the link to the HTML page with the abstract as well as the PDF, which also sometimes provides a level of redundancy. I'd go with:

{{Cite ... |url= ... /fac_pm/42 |url-status=live |archive-url=the PDF URL |archive-date=2001-10-31

—[AlanM1 (talk)]— 23:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Article Title Edit

Hello,

I am working on editing the biography of Lawrence Hurst and I am having trouble editing the title of the page. Whomever made it used the shortened name "Larry" instead of Lawrence. I think for a formal article it is best to use the persons full name in the title. How can I change this?

thanks, B — Preceding unsigned comment added by BWMcCoy (talk • contribs) 18:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Actually, we use the name by which the subject is most commonly known. If he's usually called "Larry", then that's what the article will be titled. See Bill Clinton or (more subtly) Gerald Ford (formally Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr., but born Leslie Lynch King Jr.). --Orange Mike | Talk 18:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

If you believe the name should be changed, you can use the requested moves process. Danski454 (talk) 19:49, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

How to handle "... has made few or no other edits outside this topic"

"... has made few or no other edits outside this topic"

This was appended after my post on the blpn. How do I qualify to post on the subject? Should I not post on the subject? Should I wait to post on the subject? Something else? Fearless lede'r (talk) 20:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

@Fearless lede'r: It's not something to worry about unnecessarily; as a contributor, you are welcome to join the discussion. The reasoning behind that sort of note is that it has been known for persons to be canvassed to join discussions, even via off-Wiki means, and other editors are concerned about bias or an agenda. Link for any interested editors Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Should the arrest of a notable person be in the lead of their BLP -> Steve Bannon. Eagleash (talk) 21:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict)@Fearless lede'r: discuss this with the editor who tagged you (Springee) on that editor's talk page, explaining why you feel that you are not a "single-purpose account". It is exceptionally important in cases like this to be as civil and polite as possible and assume good faith (WP:AGF), because it's extremely easy to infer ill intentions that are not present. You might choose to use your own user page to describe yourself and your editing goals, but that is purely optional. -Arch dude (talk) 21:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies, I'll have to think about this some more. Fearless lede'r (talk) 22:52, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

2020 NBA Playoffs

Can you fix the error i made about miami and milwaukee please. 68.102.42.216 (talk) 22:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Is this about 2020_NBA_playoffs#(1)_Milwaukee_Bucks_vs._(5)_Miami_Heat? Please clarify what the error is, it looks fine to me at first glance. RudolfRed (talk) 23:42, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

August 30

Old English period

About literature