Talk:David Nutt

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An article that's already been written User:Trident13/DNutt - University of Bristol [1] - Imperial College [2] - An editor of the Journal of Psychopharmacology [3] - Bio: Undergraduate training in medicine at Cambridge and Guy's Hospital, then training to MRCP. Psychiatric training then lecturer then Wellcome Senior Fellow in psychiatry at Oxford. Chief of the Section of Clinical Science in the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (US). Set up the Psychopharmacology Unit in Bristol as Professor of Psychopharmacology. Head of the Department of Community Based Medicine at the University of Bristol. [4] - President of European College of Neuropsychopharmacology [5] - Bio: [6] - Bio: [7] - Member of the Committee on Safety of Medicines at the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency [8] - Was Chair of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs - Head of the Department of Neuropsychopharmacology and Molecular Imaging at the College [9] - Head of the Department of Neuropsychopharmacology and Molecular Imaging at Imperial College [10] - "one of the country's leading experts on the effect of drugs" [11] - Interview with him on PM (Radio 4) [12]. As instructed (talk) 01:10, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I've added the info from User:Trident13/DNutt and will add some more of these refs. Smartse (talk) 17:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination

I've nominated this article for inclusion in the DYK section of the main page. The nominated hook is here if you want to comment. Smartse (talk) 17:14, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

grammar

Lots of grammar issues in need of fixing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.54.58.166 (talk) 04:49, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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Retirement

Has David Nutt retired? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Don't know and don't really care ... he could still have some other current occupation ... I just heard him on the British commercial wireless (radio) earlier this PM, this is not what we really talking about ... the point is, here in the United Kingdom, a neuropsychopharmacologist is a kind of a doctor which specialises in a special field of psychopharmacology, and is a 'regulated profession'. According to the GMC's (General Medical Council) website's Register section [13], Prof Nutt no longer has a 'licence to practice' as of 28.06.2017, therefore he is not a doctor, therefore he is not and cannot be a current or practising psychopharmacologist. Comprendre?! --- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 18:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia may have a different definition of europsychopharmacologist to the one enforced by the GMC. And I don't see the word "practicing" anywhere in the article? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC) p.s. are you sure you aren't looking for le French wiki?

Are you stoned?! Oh dear, oh dear, Wikipedia's definition of a neuropsychopharmacologist?! Never mind, feel free to revert away! -- 87.102.116.36 (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Neuropsychopharmacology is a scientific discipline - for example one can earn a PhD in that field. It is also something that psychiatrists take into account in their medical practices as MDs. The article does not say anywhere that he is practicing medicine or psychiatry. Jytdog (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I have keyboard issues. I'm just stoed. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC) p.s. thanks, that's the nicest question anyone has asked me all day. But hey, at least I'm not "off my tits on smack".

So, is that it? You're arguing that because, in your view, "a neuropsychopharmacologist is a kind of a doctor", that only those who are currently medical practitioners can be described as neuropsychopharmacologists? Nutt has worked as a clinical scientist, but has he ever been registered as a medical practitioner with the GMC? Can you show us when he was last registered? Isn't it a bit like asking "when did you stop being a idiot"? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:13, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

not sure who you are responding to, due to your indenting, but if you go to the site the IP mentioned in their edit note -- https://webcache.gmc-uk.org/gmclrmp_enu/start.swe and put in his name or his number (GMC No: 2251774) you will see that it says

Provisional Registration Date -- 18 Jul 1975

Full Registration Date -- 30 Sep 1976

Specialist Register entry date

General psychiatry From 01 Jul 1996 but is not currently licensed to practise

Psychopharmacology From 01 Jul 1996 but is not currently licensed to practise

GP Register entry date -- This doctor is not on the GP Register

So he was registered to practice medicine but his registration has lapsed. It doesn't say when it lapsed. (it is a bummer that the site doesn't create a permalink) I looked briefly for refs actually discussing him practicing medicine and when and why he stopped but didn't find any; if they are out there, this would be fine to include.

We should not do anything now as we don't have good sources for him practicing or not. there are lots of refs about him as a scientist. Jytdog (talk) 21:13, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for adding. That's now a lot clearer. But I'm still not sure that Wikipedia requires GMC registration under General psychiatry, under Psychopharmacology or as a GP, for a subject to be described as a neuropsychopharmacologist? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

The IP has a good point, that we should not lead the reader to think we practices medicine and that is why i removed "psychiatrist". There are plenty of sources for him as a neuropsychpharm scientist. The current first couple of sentences make him sound very much like a scientist; not a doctor. Jytdog (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I thought the IP's only point was to insert "former", which I don't agree with. I agree he's more of a scientist than a practitioner, and certainly not what most people would call "a doctor". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

It seems from the above that he's still a doctor, registered with the GMC, but doesn't currently have an up to date licence for clinical practice in any specialty. This would be fairly normal for an academic doctor who doesn't actually do any clinical practice. I hope this helps. Richard Keatinge (talk) 09:44, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, Richard. That is also exactly my understanding. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Equasy into David Nutt

This neologism does not seem notable on its own, but would fit nicely into David_Nutt#Government_positions. Would welcome any thoughts. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 21:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)