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::Isn't Beethoven's death the begining of the Romantic period? The symphony sounds more classical than Romantic for sure. [[User:Justin Tokke|Justin Tokke]] 01:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
::Isn't Beethoven's death the begining of the Romantic period? The symphony sounds more classical than Romantic for sure. [[User:Justin Tokke|Justin Tokke]] 01:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

:::1827?? No, it didn't begin ''that late''. And rather than "echoing with memories of Haydn and Mozart", the Eighth Symphony rather foreshadows the works of Mendelssohn, Schumann, and even (yikes!) Tchaikovsky, all of whom were also Romantic composers. Justin Tokke, you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't believe me, listen to one of CPE Bach's Hamburg symphonies, one of Haydn's first symphonies, or Mozart's Symphony No. 40. They sound by far closer to the Classical period than Beethoven's symphonies 3 to 9. And all of Beethoven's works from the beginning of his Middle period onward differ greatly from his Early period in that they sound something far removed from the Classical style, which I call Romantic. I hope this helps. [[User:Marcus2|Marcus2]] 01:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

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Classical vs. Romantic

I disagree with the classification in the summary of this as a Classical symphony. Allmusic.com says it is a Romantic symphony, and I should agree because it sounds more like from the Romantic era than the Classical era. The symphonies of CPE Bach sound much closer to those of Haydn and Mozart than Beethoven. Therefore those should be considered classical. Marcus2 23:47, 1 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh. It's really quite a stretch to call this particular symphony, which echoes throughout with memories of Haydn and Mozart, "Romantic". However, given that the "Classical" label is causing trouble, I've replaced it with "in all of Beethoven's works". Please don't continue the revert war. Opus33 00:23, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't Beethoven's death the begining of the Romantic period? The symphony sounds more classical than Romantic for sure. Justin Tokke 01:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
1827?? No, it didn't begin that late. And rather than "echoing with memories of Haydn and Mozart", the Eighth Symphony rather foreshadows the works of Mendelssohn, Schumann, and even (yikes!) Tchaikovsky, all of whom were also Romantic composers. Justin Tokke, you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't believe me, listen to one of CPE Bach's Hamburg symphonies, one of Haydn's first symphonies, or Mozart's Symphony No. 40. They sound by far closer to the Classical period than Beethoven's symphonies 3 to 9. And all of Beethoven's works from the beginning of his Middle period onward differ greatly from his Early period in that they sound something far removed from the Classical style, which I call Romantic. I hope this helps. Marcus2 01:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]