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Western Chalukya

Thanks for the translation. Is it okay for the Marathi link to remain since you have already provided an English citation?. I am only trying to maintain a clean page and want to make sure it remains English. I think the citation prior to yours isnt in English and is bound to crop up as an issue in reviews to follow. Can you kindly remove the non-English link so as to avoid a revert war.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 17:09, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Why should Marathi citation go? What does Mr.Kannambadi thinks of himself when he says Marathi links will not be added or Google books cannot be cited? I request Mr.Utcursch to unlock the Yadavas article as Wikipedia allows Google books to be cited. Vishu123 18:21, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

this is the link which says Google books are allowed, and the same reason Mr.kannambadi tried to subdued me. Mr.Bl has not revoked the locking. Can u do that please?Vishu123 18:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for following me around Vishu123.The only reason I requested utcursch to remove the Marathi link is because its presence makes no sense to the approximately 6 billion people of the world who cant read Marathi. This article is not just meant for people who can. The English language citation already exists and having come thru 2 FA reviews, I know this link will be removed by one of the reviewers. Better now then later. Also, the more info we provide readers in English, the more likely this article is open to a "world view".thanks.Dineshkannambadi 21:17, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Mr.Kannambadi has extraordinary bias about Marathi citations which is unwarranted and deeply offensive. The citation is used to support the statements and hence there is no need for 6 billion people to read the citation. Intrestingly he uses the Kannada writers or websites generously. His prejudice and hatred for Marathi should be strangled. I was very cool but Mr.Kannambadi has conspired to block me to keep the truth out. I request u to unprotect yadavas article. If not provide any valid reason for not doing so. Whatever I have done is in accordance with wikipedia policies to the best of my knowledge.Vishu123 06:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I have added the link to the list. Thank you.Vishu123 08:20, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Utcursch

Thank you for the kind word and constructive advice. I treasure them greatly:). Whenever you have moment, can you help me with in-line citation of the portion I added into "Buddhism in India"? I would greatly appreciate it, even if you could point me in the direction of a good tutorial (I'm looking as well), thank you!Nina Odell 14:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

That link is so incredibly helpful, I can't tell you. Thank you so much.Nina Odell 15:03, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

User:BostonMA adminship

See the following comment please and rethink your decition (it is not fair :( ) [1] --- ALM 18:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC):

To Alkivar and all others using #6 as grounds to oppose: I thought I would point out, as Boston has tried to above, that in his answer to No. 6 he says that he opposes deleting articles that need work: As a normal editor, [I] have tended to prefer removing spam and stubbification to outright deletion for bad articles about encyclopedic subjects. As an admin, I think I would tend to avoid deleting such articles. However, I would certainly respect the opinions and actions of admins who choose to delete any article that qualifies for speedy deletion. Perhaps I could be persuaded outright deletion is a better approach than stubbification. However, this is my opinion at the moment.

It seems we all got a little confuddled as to that point. Dåvid ƒuchs (talk • contribs) 14:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Yadavas of devagiri

Justice delayed is justice denied Vishu123 08:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy New Year 2007

Dear Utcursch/archive,
New Year is the time to enjoy, party and rejuvenate oneself with a new spirit and enthusiasm. It is also the time to forget the past and begin a new life. Let us make the New Year’s resolution to:

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Tips for the Angry New User. I stole it. Tips for the angry new administrator I wrote it.

I want to thank you for all your help and assistance "behind the scenes". I had no idea you were an admin until today, because you're so kind:).Nina Odell 17:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Questions I cannot find answers for

Several items for questions. It seems that on the discussion of "beauty queens" that the people dealing with that project have deemed that State Winners of Mrs. teen USA are worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. Perhaps I read the definition of who should be included in Wikipedia. I also think that some of these are minors and cannot find the rules for the age of people to be included in wikipedia. Although beauty pageants may take some effort, I have to wonder if in the long run, this is more wikinews. I have tried to bring this to the attention of some, but thus far have a very unpleasant experience with this.

Secondly, when there is someone who has the same name, what is the policy on that? With the proliferation of Mrs. Teen participants from years back, there will begin to be overlap, as I am sure that there already is. I am a teacher who spends a lot of time teaching others how to use wikis and have won the 2006 Edublog Award for best wiki project, and currently have the top teacher blog according to Technorati rankings, so other teachers look to me. I have a google RSS feed of my name and over the holidays was reviewing the information on Wikipedia about another Victoria Davis. It seems if you look at the criteria that even with my accolades, I have only been blogging a year and perhaps would not be considered for inclusion in notable people (and I'm fine with that), however, the same standards need to apply to everyone. Bottom line, I'm feeling that if you have a lot of time on your hands and feel that you want to wage "a war in Wikipedia" which I do not have either desire, that you can ensure fairness, otherwise, those who have a lot of time seem to dominate the information. I will continue to watch my topics of interest, which I guess can no longer include my own name. I have no desire to take on the pageant fanatics but disagree with the inclusion of the teen information at the state level as I have expressed on their forum. It simply doesn't meet your own criteria. Victoria A. Davis 17:59, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I've replied on your talk page. I'll look into this matter. I could find only one precedent: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calley Anne Slagle. The article on Miss Idaho USA Calley Anne Slagle was deleted -- there was no claim to notability apart from the state teen title. I'll soon have a look at other articles as well. utcursch | talk 13:22, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

ceasefire

Please see this- [2] Vishu123 07:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

use of Marathi books/publications

Dear Sir, this problem of using self translated Marathi books/publicatons etc is only growing. The problem has now spread to Chalukya page and nobody knows what is being translated accurately and what is not. We really need to get to the bottom of this before English language wikipedia becomes non-English language wikipedia. We really need to bring in a team of participants here who can help us decide what is right for English language wikipedia and what is not. I see this as a growing menace to English wikipedia. I have left a message for Blnguyen also regarding this. thanks.Dineshkannambadi 14:54, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

My sincere suggestion in the interest of English wikipedia is that we bring together a wide group of admins/seniors from across the board and come to a consensus about non-English books/publications and their validity and if so under what circumstances.India has over 22 official languages and hundreds of dialects. We cant have all these versions running around English wikipedia.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 16:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Marathi Books referenced by Vishu123 Medieval India (madhyayugin bharat) By C.V.Vaidya- It contains both the theories of Dr.Bhandrakar and V.K.Rajwade Marathyancha Itihaas By Dr.S.G Kolarkar (it books too contain many postulates of above noted historians) महाराष्ट्राचे प्राचीन राज्यकर्ते Maharashtrache prachin rajyakarte by V.K rajwade Bharatacha Ithaas Dr.S.G Kolarkar Dineshkannambadi 00:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

English version of C.V's book is not available in any library. I think we must consider not allowing partisan and unknwn authors like Mr.kannambadi has quoted. The books being in english doesnt make them pristine. We cant build history English wikipedia by using only books of few partisan and unimportant writers. You are requested to check my translation.Vishu123 17:13, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Use of Snippets as citation

Here are some of the the "scholarly" snippets used by user:Vishu123 (user:Mrtag, User:Ithaas) to accurately represent the history of the Rashtrakuta Empire and Western Chalukyas. We need to bring consensus about this also along with Marathi sources, in order to preserve the quality of wikipedia.

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• [6] (in this case user:Utcursch has provided an eqvivalent English language citation, but User:Vishu123 prefers his native language and expects the world to follow his command.

If this problem is not resolved, the History of India will a trail of snippets.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 02:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Vishu123

I see that another sock-account has been created. As you seem to be mediating (once again) I am not in a hurry to block this account. And wish you a very happy new year! - Aksi_great (talk) 14:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Maratha Empire

Sir, I had added valid English language citation to this page and also tagged the article as flowery with no citaions what so ever. I has added in several tags because there were none to support the claims. All this has been reverted by user:vishu123 without explanation. His answer on the article's discussion page answers for itself. Please advice Vishu123 not to revert valid English language citations.Thanks.Dineshkannambadi 15:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)