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Amelia Presley

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:BAND. Failure to launch scenario. scope_creep^Talk 09:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 11:18, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: no evidence of notability per WP:MUSICBIO. The only conceivable alternative to deletion would be a redirect to Highway Sisters, but I've just taken a look at the band's page and nominated it for deletion. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 11:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet our inclusion guidelines for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do Not Delete does not meet criteria for speedy deletion. Plenty of sources cited. It meets #1 & #4 of WP:MUSICBIO It definitely needs cleanup though. almaniacopedia (talk) 11:20, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Very weak keep. The article seems to have sources that don't belong, such a Itunes, but she does have a history, and a couple of other verifiable sources. The majority does seem to be original research, however. LePanini (Talk) 17:05, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO. KidAd talk 17:33, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Mild Keep She seems notable, but I don't see sales figures for her albums, awards won, mentions in major media outlets. Serving in the military is neither here nor there, neither is being at an audition for American Idol. Sounds like she's almost a big star, but not yet. Perhaps a bit too early in her career for an article. Oaktree b (talk) 04:04, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: does not meet WP:MUSICBIO - the fact that minor details like auditioning for American Idol and being mentioned in a magazine article are included suggested clutching at straws to establish notability, but the bar does not seem to be met. Melcous (talk) 21:15, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep-Meets WP:MUSICBIO This article meets the following guidelines of WP:MUSICBIO:

”Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2]“ (She has been the subject of MULTIPLE published works such as newspaper both online and print, magazine articles, etc)”

“ Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.”(References have been added to support this)

Musicians are considered notable if they meet one of the WP:MUSICBIO criteria. She meets two, possibly more. It just seems that there has been a lot of deletion of the page without anyone actually looking for the references which were fairly easy to find with a google search. Open to feedback on references that I’ve added. American Idol isn’t really something that should be in there though. Maybe someone added it because she was on TV? RedDirtRedBird (talk) 21:20, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RedDirtRedBird: You can only do one keep. scope_creep^Talk 22:23, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: Sorry about that. I’ve deleted the previous one, now. 21:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@RedDirtRedBird: You need to provide evidence that she meets you criteria. Just stating that she meets it, doesn't really work. scope_creep^Talk 10:41, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:24, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Scope creep: The evidence is in the references on the page. Can you specify how to prove she meets the criteria further than that? I thought it would be pretty clear. Thanks

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+::{{ping| scope_creep}} The evidence is in the references on the page.  Can you specify how to prove she meets the criteria further than that?  I thought it would be pretty clear.  Thanks