MediaWiki talk:WikiLove.js

Protected edit request on 29 June 2017

could someone add toast sandwich to the template? I started Template:Toast sandwich for you and Template:WikiLove-toast sandwich, and would love to see the sandwich on there.-🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 07:38, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Not done for now: Please provide the exact code to be inserted — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:01, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

@MSGJ: I hope this code is sufficient for its addition to the already lovely WikiLove list: -🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 03:45, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

// Adding toast sandwich to food options
$.wikiLoveOptions.types.food.subtypes.toast.sandwich = {
    fields: [ 'header', 'message' ],
    option: 'Toast sandwich',
    descr: 'Toast sandwiches are made by putting a thin slice of toast 🔥🍞 between two thin slices of bread 🍞 🍞 with a layer of [[butter]], and adding salt and pepper to taste. 👅 Its origins can be traced to the [[Victorian era|Victorian]] years.',
    header: 'A toast sandwich for you!',
    image: 'An image of a toast sandwich, shot from the side.jpg',
    imageSize: '120px'
};

@MSGJ: is the above code correct or no?-🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 22:05, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Seems to be working, but perhaps we can remove the funny symbols 🔥🍞👅 because you can't see them clearly anyway. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, agreed — given that they don't work on all screens. Also: wiki-links as they're missing from the other WikiLove options too.-🐦Do☭torWho42 (⭐) 19:56, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done. I can see them on my home computer, but at work they are looked the same. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Deleting goats

So many goats, so few kittens.

A while back some people added goats to WikiLove during the goatification craze of 2017. While I love goats just as much as anyone else (within healthy limits), I fear that their inclusion is reducing the use of the kittens option, which scientific studies have shown are most effective at increasing fine-motor dexterity[1] and attentional focus,[2] both of which contribute to productive Wikipedia editing. Leaving a goat on someone's page, while it may evoke temporarily feelings of joy, euphoria, or confusion, doesn't have as much of a lasting positive impact on the viewer. As such, I'm asking to add the following line to MediaWiki:WikiLove.js:
delete $.wikiLoveOptions.types.goat;
Respectfully, Kaldari (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

This is one wild balance of serious and unserious! I think I'd support this, but it'd be good to have some level of discussion on the removal (even if the addition was somewhat undiscussed). ~ Amory (u • t • c) 18:34, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

 On hold I left a discussion notice at the related wikiproject, Wikipedia talk:Department of Fun. Short hold to see if they have any comment. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

The goats were added to the extension at phab:T173187, rather than just here on enwiki via sitewide JavaScript. The same reasons provided here also apply to adding goats on other wikis, and thus I would suggest removing from the extension altogether, or leaving them in, but not removing them locally like this. DannyS712 (talk) 04:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done due to disagreement above; phab is probably a better choice too. — xaosflux ^Talk 00:39, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kaldari: if you choose to pursue this further on phab, please add me to the relevant task/gerrit patch, happy to review and merge if there are no objections from others DannyS712 (talk) 05:46, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712 and Xaosflux: I already tried the gerrit patch route, which was rejected.[3] WikiLove is intended to be fully-customizable for each wiki, and while goats may hold a special place in the hearts of German or Dutch Wikipedians, I don't think they hold quite the same appeal for the English-speaking world, probably due to their negative portrayal in Disney movies.[4] I think it should be left up to the English Wikipedia community whether or not they want to express their love via goats, rather than leaving it to the whims of a few goat-obsessed developers. Kaldari (talk) 16:23, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

@Kaldari: I cross posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) to see if anyone else has an opinion (maybe someone loves goats afterall!). Normally I wouldn't want more javascript hacks to remove functions, but as this page is already running the same bundled .js I'm not worried about that part. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:50, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with doing this locally, for exactly this reason. We've added other customizations here, I don't see a reason not to on this (if that is, indeed, the desire). Indeed, if it's desirable elsewhere, we should customize it locally rather than impose our will elsewhere. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 17:28, 1 November 2020 (UTC)