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– WP:COMMONNAME for both is just "Mario Ortiz", neither use maternal surname or middle name professionally. Disambiguate to standard for footballers. Source for Spanish footballer: 1, 2, 3, 4, all refs on page. For Mexican footballer: 1, 2, 3. Ortizesp (talk) 14:24, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment alternative option is Mario Ortiz Ruiz → Mario Ortiz (Spanish footballer), Mario Virginio Ortiz → Mario Ortiz (Mexican footballer). I have no real preference, and both have good arguments.--Ortizesp (talk) 14:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose main option. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Disambiguating: "Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it)". Years of birth are only used when there is no other reasonable disambiguator, such as when people of the same name have the same profession and nationality. Nationality is a standard disambiguator for soccer players per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer). Searchers are more likely to know the nationality rather than the maternal surname or birth year. DrKay (talk) 17:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support removal of maternal surnames and use of parenthetical qualifiers specifying nationalities, per comment by Ortizesp and oppose vote by DrKay. However, if consensus were to skew towards the use of birth years, I would also support that form. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 19:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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