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Hello. I made a user status page and put the text "school" there. However, my status won't show on my user page. Does anyone know how to fix this? [[User:Jackalope 10|<b style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #70e0a3; color: #70e0a3;">Jackalope 10</b>]] 16:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
Hello. I made a user status page and put the text "school" there. However, my status won't show on my user page. Does anyone know how to fix this? [[User:Jackalope 10|<b style="text-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #70e0a3; color: #70e0a3;">Jackalope 10</b>]] 16:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
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:On your userpage you put {{tlx|UserStatus|User:Jackalope 10/school}}. It should be {{tlx|UserStatus|User:Jackalope10/status}}. Cheers! <code><nowiki>Use {</nowiki><nowiki>{</nowiki>[[template:re|re]]|[[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> to ping</code> ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|Push to talk]]) 16:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
:On your userpage you put {{tlx|UserStatus|User:Jackalope 10/school}}. It should be {{tlx|UserStatus|User:Jackalope10/status}}. Cheers! <code><nowiki>Use {</nowiki><nowiki>{</nowiki>[[template:re|re]]|[[User:PorkchopGMX|PorkchopGMX]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki> to ping</code> ([[User talk:PorkchopGMX|Push to talk]]) 16:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
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Why the most software versions in category are not updated to the last versions? It is not best solution to centralize all versions on Wikidata? --[[Special:Contributions/37.116.102.74|37.116.102.74]] ([[User talk:37.116.102.74|talk]]) 17:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC) |
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What is the criteria for adding a picture to an article?
What is the criteria for adding a picture to an article? I would like to add a picture to Cignature's info box but I've noticed on a lot of articles, the info box pictures are taken by others from afar and are somewhat blurry, instead of being a more professional looking picture taken by people close (both physically and affiliation wise) to the people in the picture. Are more professional pictures not allowed? Hihelloitisi (talk) 17:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Hihelloitisi. This area can get very technical, and we would need to know more specifics about the actual image you wanted to add, to fully tailor an answer. Here's some broad rules of thumb: We greatly prefer free images over non-free ("free" referring to copyright ownership); we do allow some images to be used under a claim of fair use, but they must meet the multiple strict requirements of the fair use criteria; with some rare exceptions, images of living people cannot be used here at all under fair use; and fair use images, in order to comply with that doctrine, must be of relatively low resolution.
For these reasons, the only usable images available to us for many subjects are either professional images that have been intentionally reduced in quality, or (especially with respect to living people), photos taken in person by Wikipedia/Wikimedia users, who then agree to release their copyright—either into the public domain or, more commonly, under a suitably-free copyright license (such photos are usually and properly then uploaded to our sister project, the Wikimedia Commons rather than to Wikipedia)—as opposed to the professional produced but non-free images you will see at many other websites. I hope that adequately explains why you may encounter so many pictures here of less than professional quality. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:14, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for all the information Fuhghettaboutit! As for the picture I had this in mind, but now I suppose it would be a problematic choice given the cropped out logo in the bottom right. Hihelloitisi (talk) 21:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think the cropped-out logo is a serious problem. If necessary it can be cropped further. A much bigger concern is the copyright status of the image. Did you take it with your own camera? If not, do you have reason to believe that it is free of copyright restrictions? Maproom (talk) 22:56, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hihelloitisi FYI, "criteria" is the plural of "criterion." Uporządnicki (talk) 13:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- AzseicsoK, seriously you're nitpicking that at Teahouse? The entire point here is to be welcoming to well-intentioned newbies. —valereee (talk) 16:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- AzseicsoK, Valereee Agreeing with the above, I'll note that the nitpicked sentence containing "criteria" in the original makes perfect sense in the plural (actually seems more likely that the plural form was intended—after all, I provided multiple rules of thumb in response), so this "correction" may not be one at all.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Fuhghettaboutit Well, I wasn't going to dispute the nitpicking--since even I can't deny that that's exactly what I was doing. But if it is "criteria," plural, then it should be "What ARE the criteria." Uporządnicki (talk) 00:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- AzseicsoK, seriously you're nitpicking that at Teahouse? The entire point here is to be welcoming to well-intentioned newbies. —valereee (talk) 16:56, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hihelloitisi FYI, "criteria" is the plural of "criterion." Uporządnicki (talk) 13:35, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
source
When to remove a source that is a press release? Thanks. AlphonseOop (talk) 10:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC) AlphonseOop (talk) 10:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- AlphonseOop, you mean a press release link that is already dead? You can probably try finding archives of it. If you have another source better than the press release, feel free to change it, but as far as I'm concerned, press releases are fine. GeraldWL 10:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis, that's not really correct. A press release is an affiliated source, which can be an appropriate source for adding noncontroversial detail to an article -- the date a corporation announced whatever the press release was announcing, say -- but it's not sufficient for proving notability, showing noteworthiness, or proving anything that could possibly be considered contentious. If there's an unaffiliated reliable source for the same information, in general it's best to use that and remove the press release altogether. —valereee (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Valeree, I'm talking about citing presses in a regular article— that is, an article that has proven its notability via reliable independent sources. If you wanna make an article out of just presses, then yes, presses don't show notability. GeraldWL 01:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis, it also doesn't prove noteworthiness -- whether the information should even be in the article. A press release announcing P&G's newest global initiative isn't good enough support for us to include a mention of that initiative in Procter & Gamble. We'd need an unaffiliated RS talking about it. If we have that, we probably don't need the press release except to provide trivial detail such as the exact date of the announcement. If no unaffiliated RS is talking about it, the press release is pure corporate promotion. So no, in general, information in an article that is cited to a press release at minimum should be tagged as better source needed, and if it's the only support for an assertion that is even slightly iffy, the content probably needs to go. —valereee (talk) 12:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Valeree, there are emergency times when a press release is needed, to support a claim until a reliable source can be found. If an airline went bankrupt and the only source available is a press release, there's no way we keep pretending like it is still alive. Then when an RS talks bout it, we can replace it and maybe add more info. Also knowing that there is Template:Cite press release, in a nutshell, press releases are allowed. GeraldWL 12:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis, it also doesn't prove noteworthiness -- whether the information should even be in the article. A press release announcing P&G's newest global initiative isn't good enough support for us to include a mention of that initiative in Procter & Gamble. We'd need an unaffiliated RS talking about it. If we have that, we probably don't need the press release except to provide trivial detail such as the exact date of the announcement. If no unaffiliated RS is talking about it, the press release is pure corporate promotion. So no, in general, information in an article that is cited to a press release at minimum should be tagged as better source needed, and if it's the only support for an assertion that is even slightly iffy, the content probably needs to go. —valereee (talk) 12:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Valeree, I'm talking about citing presses in a regular article— that is, an article that has proven its notability via reliable independent sources. If you wanna make an article out of just presses, then yes, presses don't show notability. GeraldWL 01:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis, that's not really correct. A press release is an affiliated source, which can be an appropriate source for adding noncontroversial detail to an article -- the date a corporation announced whatever the press release was announcing, say -- but it's not sufficient for proving notability, showing noteworthiness, or proving anything that could possibly be considered contentious. If there's an unaffiliated reliable source for the same information, in general it's best to use that and remove the press release altogether. —valereee (talk) 16:35, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Reliable source
Hi wikipedians! Is macrotrends.net a reliable source? Just asking, thanks ~ Azpineapple (talk) 05:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Apparently not. See this discussion. -- Hoary (talk) 05:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Please visit [1]. I wished to know how the process would work. Will it be an admin who evaluates the result and add it to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, or should I do something on the topic, rather than just join the discussion.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 06:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's not a matter that requires one or more administrators. An experienced and respected non-administrator is just as able to conclude the discussion (or attempt to) as an administrator. But RSN discussions typically don't have clear conclusions. (Yes, there can be clear conclusions; but it doesn't seem that the discussion is close to that yet.) I'd urge you not to attempt to close the discussion. (Also, avoid boldface: it comes off like shouting, and makes people less likely to take seriously the text or writer that uses it.) -- Hoary (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Would any reviewers be willing to take a look at the draft above? I'm aware that there is currently a heavy backlog of submissions, but the draft has been pending review now for over 3 months. The subject pertains to WP:ACAD, WP:CH, WP:CA and WP:BIZ. Davykamanzi → talk • contribs • alter ego 07:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
What is Life Style ?
What does it mean Life Style ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyle My understanding is Life style Is a personal choice forming the tendency to adapt a collective of habits and trends which form different pattern of living. Mish2022 (talk) 07:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Mish2022: That is just one meaning of the word (see Lifestyle (sociology)). The page you linked to functions to disambiguate articles with similar-sounding titles or content. Nick Moyes (talk) 08:10, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Ok I understood thanks for help (Mish2022 (talk) 11:02, 13 November 2020 (UTC))(Mish2022 (talk) 11:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)) (Mish2022 (talk) 10:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mish2022 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Mish2022: As you can see by the above, your signature (four tildes:
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- @Mish2022: As you can see by the above, your signature (four tildes:
Latest stable software release templates
Why the most software versions in category are not updated to the last versions? It is not best solution to centralize all versions on Wikidata?--2001:B07:6442:8903:A023:1C60:6E70:6DE8 (talk) 09:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
I just created my first article- feedback please?
Hello, I just created a Wikipedia page for Umm Al Emarat Park, it should be available here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Al_Emarat_park
I'm not sure if it's good enough or if there's something I should change, I'm looking for some guidance from more seasoned editors to tell me if I did alright. Thank you for your time. BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC) BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Courtesy: Currently Umm Al Emarat park. Article name should be changed to Umm Al Emarat Park. David notMD (talk) 09:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
David_notMD what do you mean? Like, how is that different from what I linked to? Also, any comments? BetweenCupsOfTea (talk) 09:35, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to The Teahouse. Wikipedia is written in a dry neutral tone, so content like "It has been described as an outdoor classroom, a place to rediscover leisure and wellness, a calming space to unplug from the city and reconnect with nature, and above all, a meeting place for family and friends" and "one of the oldest and largest urban parks" is unsourced and promotional so I have removed it. Theroadislong (talk) 10:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- The word "park" is capitalized in your first sentence, so the Wikilink did not work when I commented. Hence my providing a correct Wikilink. However, an editor has since changed the article title to "Park." David notMD (talk) 14:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
article help
My article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit Nlm94 (talk) 09:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for asking this question at the Teahouse, Nlm94. Whilst nobody doubts that the club you're writing about at Draft:Kensington Dragons Football Club actually exists, the problem you face is that it does not look sufficiently notable to merit having an article here. Wikipedia is not a place to promote minor clubs and societies' so, until such times as it is written about in detail and in depth by independent sources, the reality is that it won't be approved for mainspace. I realise this will be a disappointment for you, but unless you can find better and more detailed sources, you would be wasting your time trying to improve it in other ways. Are there not other topics of note here that you could contribute to instead? For a complete newcomer to create a new article here is really difficult, especially as creating any new page is one of the hardest tasks any editor can do. The Wikipedia Adventure is a good place for a new editor to get an overview of how things work here. See also WP:NSPORTS and WP:NCORP for guidance on sports notability and organisation notability criteria. Nick Moyes (talk)
List of equipment of the Bangladesh Army
Hi, can someone take a look at List of equipment of the Bangladesh Army article and the history of it, as well as to the comment of the user involved? It just doesn't look good. Your opinion would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 10:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC) Lotje (talk) 10:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Lotje: welcome to the Teahouse. I've fixing the appallingly large image of the weapon. Some people like to leave blunt messages for others on their user talk pages, even if they're too blind to see their own mistakes, as this editor was. Just ignore people's attitudes and stick to following Wikipedia's policies and you should be OK. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you every so much Nick Moyes. Lotje (talk) 11:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Submission Error
I have got error for this page as There is no reception section describing how the film is notable per the guidelines listed here: WP:NFILM. One review is at least linked to (in an odd location), but more reviews are needed. The only other source labeled as a review does not actually have a review posted. Amazon Prime response is not reliable unless there is a reliable source quoting this somewhere. below is the page link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gosi_Gang Reviews are already attached in reference ODD location means & what is reception section Sarvasva30 (talk) 11:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
This article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maasthi_Upparahalli Sarvasva30 (talk) 11:58, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Sarvasva30, Hello! The reception section is used to describe what reviewers and the general public thought about the subject. What did they like? How well did it do in the box office? What awards were it nominated for? etc. Use Avengers: Endgame as an example. Here, they explain how much money the movie made, what the critical responses were, and the awards the movie won and was nominated for. Le Panini Talk 12:45, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the response added reception for the page have another issue with this page This article was recently declined on grounds that it doesnt meet the wikipedia notability guides, however I used external independent sources and wrote factually - so I'm unsure what to do in order to improve/resubmit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Maasthi_Upparahalli
- It seems the article was declined for two reasons:
- 1. Additional citation
- 2. Relies too much on primary sources
- I'll go over both and explain them in detail.
- While the article has citations, it needs more to verify it as a notable subject. The reviewer left a link to WP:NBIO, and I suggest you take a look at it for the complete set of rules of the subject.
- Primary sources are sources related to or closely related to the subject. An autobiography written by Maasthi Upparahalli would be a primary source, and someone talking about this autobiography would be a third party source.
- If you have any other questions, let me know. Le Panini Talk 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Self promotion, and how to avoid it?
I twice wrote an article on my YouTube/Twitch channel, but every time I seemed to add a link for my channel, and/or talked of my efforts in speedrunning and such, it was rejected for "sounding too much like a self-promo." Any help on how to successfully upload it, without getting rejected? Xdude gamer (talk) 13:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Xdude gamer. My advice on how to avoid self promotion, is to stop trying to promote yourself and your activities here. Unless several people wholly unconnected with you taken enough interest to write significant coverage about them and been published in reliable sources, then Wikipedia is not interested in them, and you are wasting your time and effort in trying to get into Wikipedia. Please read What Wikipedia is not. --ColinFine (talk) 14:14, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- History of Draft:Meaningless Journey appears to be that you drafted and submitted about yourself, then deleted and created a renamed draft about your band. Either way, to second what ColinFine wrote, Wikipedia notability requires sources (references) written about you or about the band, not by you. David notMD (talk) 14:38, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Structure for an article
So I've been looking at this mess of an article (Matthew Kulke) for a while now, trying to think of ways to fix it. I realize potentially one of the best ways would be to start by using some kind of template (not the Multiple issues kind) to structure it like an article, then add some links and references, but I'm not sure of the "correct" structuring of a biography. If someone could point me in the right direction (or left) with a link that would be great! SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:42, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to The Teahouse, could this be what you are looking for Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biography? Theroadislong (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi SnazzyInfinity. I think the first thing you should do if you intend to improve it is add find reliable sources to cite in support of the article's content, and add them to the article asap; otherwise, the article is likely going to end up tagged or nominated for deletion, perhaps even by WP:BLPPROD, fairly quickly. Once some sources have been added to the article that establishes the subject's Wikipedia notability, you can then work on the formatting, etc. If you're looking for ideas on how to format the article, try looking at similar articles or even WP:FAs or WP:GAs for ideas. A perfectly formatted and written article is never going to be able to WP:OVERCOME a lack of proper sourcing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links, I'll look those over. SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:55, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I tend to disagree with the advice given above. Starting with the existing content, and finding and citing references to support it, has it backwards. An easier, and more effective, method is
- Discard the existing contents.
- Find reliable independent sources that discuss the subject.
- Rewrite the article, basing it entirely on what those sources say. Maproom (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- That works as well as long as it doesn't involving WP:BLANK; in other words, the existing content should probably be removed and replaced with the new properly sourced content in a single edit, which might be something a bit confusing for a new editor to try. It also implies a WP:TNT approach which might not be totally necessary per WP:PRESERVE if the only problem is a lack of proper sourcing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I tend to disagree with the advice given above. Starting with the existing content, and finding and citing references to support it, has it backwards. An easier, and more effective, method is
- Thanks for the links, I'll look those over. SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:55, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Mary Wyant artist
Can someone find a bio on Mary Wyant, an artist in Tucson Arizona? I understand she taught at the U of Arizona and later became a full-time artist. She now has Alzheimer's disease and no longer paints. 47.196.140.244 (talk) 15:46, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Mary Wyant? It looks like there's a PBS documentary about her: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-mother-and-daughter-portrait-of-long-term-care. She doesn't have a Wikipedia page, though, and you'd have to find another reliable source of independent, significant coverage in order for her to have a page. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 08:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
All my edits get revert
All my edits get revert (っ °Д °;)っ PlsBeQUIET (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- All your edits were vandalism. David notMD (talk) 16:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- And what kind of copy-paste text emoji even is that? Like, what emotion is it portraying? Le Panini Talk 16:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
PackManEng
Ok so User:PackManEng is getting pretty annoying. Just look at his talk page for heavens sake! I know the tea house isn’t a place to ask this but I’m new and don’t know anywhere else to go. After living 36 years I have NEVER ever seen anybody like this on Wikipedia. He has constantly played the role of the devils advocate and has hounded multiple times. Please Help!! Lukeskrobot11 (talk) 16:19, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- If you have an issue with an editor, you first should take it up with them. If that doesn't help, you can try different kinds of WP:DR, including the administrator's noticeboard or its subpages. However, you have hardly edited on enwiki, and I don't see any evidence that PackManEng has interacted with you, never mind in a houding way. It is rather strange to see someone making out of the blue such an accusation, which violates our "no personal attacks" policy. Please indicate exactly what the issue is (at which articles or talk pages have you been hounded or otherwise bothered by them?). Simply accusing someone of poor behaviour without any indication of what it is you are worried about will not lead to any action against that other editor, but may reflect badly on you. Fram (talk) 16:28, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @PackMecEng: I guess this is about you? Fram (talk) 16:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Better: @PackMecEng: Fram (talk) 16:31, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Lukeskrobot11. There is no editor with that username. Perhaps you are thinking of User:PackMecEng, who is female. The first step is to discuss your specific concerns with the editor. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lukeskrobot11 Rubbernecking does no good. Over four years, PackMedEng has had disagreements with other editors, but never with you, who registered less than one month ago. David notMD (talk) 16:47, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Lukeskrobot11. There is no editor with that username. Perhaps you are thinking of User:PackMecEng, who is female. The first step is to discuss your specific concerns with the editor. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 16:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I do not think we have interacted before. If we had I do not recall and apologies. Is there something I can do to help? PackMecEng (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Is there a way to tell someone that they need a source without undoing an edit?
I see a lot of edits that add new info without sources/citations. Is there a way to tell the user that they need citations without reverting their edit?
As a related question, can I make a draft-like edit that other people can revise, check, add citations, etc. without making it part of the actual page instantly? Eridian314 (talk) 16:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Eridian314, Well, talk pages might be the answer here. If you want to tell someone about their edits, leave a message on their talk page. You can also suggest what you want to add on the articles' talk page if you want opinions from other editors.
- Additionally, you can mark the statement that needs citation with a {{Citation needed}} template, which looks like this:
- "sentence in an article that needs citation."[citation needed]
- Hi Eridian314. If someone is adding unsourced info to an article I advise you to just revert it, and if you have WP:TW post the relevant notice on their talk page. CN tags are often ignored. SK2242 (talk) 07:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Or you can just search for a source yourself, if it's something which should be relatively easy to search for a source for. Try typing in the relevant keywords followed by "-wikipedia" on Google as a good place to start. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 20:05, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Infoboxes
How do I create infoboxes? I'm new to Wikipedia, and a lot of the stuff here is confusing to me. I was wondering how I can put infoboxes on a new page. Please reply to this if you can help me. Thanks, WikiToaster1 (talk) 16:23, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @WikiToaster1: Many already-coded infobox templates are avaliable; a list can be found at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. You can go to the documentation page for the most appropriate one, copy the template into your article, and fill in whatever parameters you can. A number of people find it easier just to copy the infobox from a similar article and replace the parameter values as necessary. Deor (talk) 17:12, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
An issue with userboxes.
Hello, Teahouse. :-)
I'm having a problem with userboxes on my user page. At the time of writing, you can see the result of this live at User:SeparateTitan92.
When trying to insert a number of userboxes one on top of another, they form a strange kind of staircase pattern. Is this a problem that others see too or just me and, if it is visible to others, how do I solve this?
Thanks and have a nice day. SeparateTitan92 (talk) 16:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I removed the blank lines between. Is that what you wanted? Or perhaps not, as now across page and you mentioned wanting stacked? David notMD (talk) 17:01, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I appreciate your help. Another person posted on my talk page that there was a way to group userboxes together, so I have used that solution with my WikiProject boxes and your solution with the rest. Thanks, have a nice day! SeparateTitan92 (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Working on Updating Citations
Hi Wiki editors! I am working on submitting a draft page and I have reviewed the citation styles and I believe I have added them in the correct format and updated the draft page. That said, I can't seem to figure out how to remove 1-14 now. See Draft:The Friedkin Group for the page I'm discussing. I think it's because they are still referenced in line (within the text) so now it's as if they are doubled up but I'm unsure how to delete or fix because I still want the citations to point to somewhere. Is there a place I can reference to understand how to make the in line citations match up to the reference list? I hope that makes sense and would appreciate any further guidance so I can continue to clean up the submission! Thank you! LucyArn (talk) 17:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Greetings, LucyArn, and welcome to the Teahouse. It appears that Victor Schmidt has already edited your draft to remove the duplicate references; I would suggest taking a look at this diff to see what exactly they did. Did this answer your questions? CThomas3 (talk) 20:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Cthomas3, for showing me that! And, Victor Schmidt, very much appreciate the assist! LucyArn (talk) 20:48, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Using a reference more than once
I've noticed that sometimes in articles someone will use a reference more than once, and it will be marked as [1a], but when I tried using a reference more than once it just did [2], how would I fix this? SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 17:37, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SnazzyInfinity: try WP:REFNAME. Note that the standard ref extension is yust capable of [number] afaik, anything else are templates. The closest one I could come up with is [a 1], which is done by giving the reference a group.Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:56, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
References
- ^ content
- Ok, thanks SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 18:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SnazzyInfinity: Multiple uses of the same reference will always be numbered (or lettered) the same in the usage in the article text (e.g.[1]), with different backlinked letters (a b c) in front of the reference below. Like[1] this[1] here.[1]. Victor Schmidt I think they're all implemented using
<ref group="...">
– the templates are just wrappers to help out. Template:Efn#Template use by reference group type has a table of the predefined types and wrapper templates. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:33, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @SnazzyInfinity: Multiple uses of the same reference will always be numbered (or lettered) the same in the usage in the article text (e.g.[1]), with different backlinked letters (a b c) in front of the reference below. Like[1] this[1] here.[1]. Victor Schmidt I think they're all implemented using
- Ok, thanks SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 18:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks User:AlanM1 this is exactly what I was looking for. SnazzyInfinity - Chat? 14:26, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Undoing
I am trying to create a draft. I accidentally did something wrong, and I'm wondering if I can undo changes within edits without undoing the whole edit. Can I? D4135t 18:15, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- D4135t, Go into the page history, and click the undo button next to the recent edit. Le Panini Talk 18:33, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, D4135t, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure what you're asking, but I see that you have since reverted an edit you made, so I'm guessing that you've worked it out. But since I've looked: Unless you do something to rescue it, User:D4135t/Ridiculous Story is probably going to get speedily deleted under criterion WP:U5. Putting a "humour" tag doesn't make it any more relevant to Wikipedia than not doing so,. --ColinFine (talk) 18:38, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Le Panini, that's not what I mean. What I mean is only undoing a certain portion of the edit and not the whole edit. D4135t 18:53, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi D4135t. As far as I know there isn't an easy way to rectify two revisions together if content in the same area has been both added and removed. The simplest way would be to go to the "View History" tab, select the revisions you'd like to compare and click the 'Compare selected revisions' button. This will show you the exact changes and you can copy and paste the parts you need into a new edit window in another tab. This would be called a 'partial manual revert'. Zindor (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @D4135t: Just edit the article again and change what you want to change. Remember that all edits are recorded in the history of the page, so clicking undo to totally undo an edit is effectively no different than just editing the article and manually putting things back the way they were. It's just a question of which is less work for you, or more likely to be accurate. Use undo when you're reverting most of a change and just leaving a little bit, or manually edit if you're keeping most of a change and just removing/fixing something small. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 06:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi D4135t. As far as I know there isn't an easy way to rectify two revisions together if content in the same area has been both added and removed. The simplest way would be to go to the "View History" tab, select the revisions you'd like to compare and click the 'Compare selected revisions' button. This will show you the exact changes and you can copy and paste the parts you need into a new edit window in another tab. This would be called a 'partial manual revert'. Zindor (talk) 19:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Le Panini, that's not what I mean. What I mean is only undoing a certain portion of the edit and not the whole edit. D4135t 18:53, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Kilometer/kilometre
Should you use kilometer or kilometre? -322UbnBr2 (Talk | Contributions | Actions) 19:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Unbinilium-322 Dibromide, welcome to the Teahouse. It would depend on the variety of English the article is written in. There's more formatting information at Wikipedia:Kilometre. Regards, Zindor (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Unable to Post Justice Alito's Video
I just saw today's video from Justice Alito, and I tried to post the link on his Talk page. A Wikipedia filter blocked me from posting the link. Charles Juvon (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC) Charles Juvon (talk) 20:30, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Charles Juvon, yes some URLs are blacklisted. Consider finding a different website that hosts the video. Also it's rarely worth posting a URL by itself; maybe add to your post what parts of the video you consider relevant and why they have a bearing on the article. Regards, Zindor (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello, Charles Juvon. I'm not clear why you would want to post a video of the subject on the Talk page. It is by definition a primary source, so until there is indpendent material published about it, it is almost irrelevant to the article. Please first discuss on the talk page just what changes to the article you are considering or recommending, and why a link to the video would be relevant. Remember, the talk page is for discussing how the article could be improved: nothing else. --ColinFine (talk) 20:54, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I had hoped to give a more experienced editor material to use.Charles Juvon (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Charles Juvon, that's understandable. It was kind of you to make other editors aware of the video but it's typically assumed that experienced editors already keep themselves abreast of such information. Unless there's something specific that needs discussing in regard to the article, it's best to refrain from posting links. Kind regards, Zindor (talk) 21:16, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I had hoped to give a more experienced editor material to use.Charles Juvon (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Inserting links
I mostly like to edit articles about older movies-- updating and expanding the information. I have not been able to find the instructions for how to link something to another article in Wikipedia. For instance, if the movie has Shirley Temple in the cast, I would like to add a link to the article about Shirley Temple-- can anyone give me step by step for a complete beginner of how to do that? Kimberjd (talk) 21:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Kimberjd. The links you're describing are "internal links" or "Wikilinks" and you can find out more about them in MOS:LINK. There's another type of link as well called "external links" and you can find out about them in WP:EL. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:39, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
I wish to create a Wikipedia site for the photographer James Fortune
I work with renowned rock photographer James Fortune, and he asked about Wikipedia. He has two websites jamesfortunephotography.com and james-fortune-archive.com His work is in the Smithsonian, The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, in many rock books and on CD covers by artists such as Jimmy Page and others. A photo of his of John Bonham was used for Bonham's statue in England. There are numerous articles written about him, and his work has appeared in major publications all over the world. I think he would be a good subject for a Wikipedia article. Brookesaunders (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Brookesaunders. Wikipedia is not really a "website" for people in which they have pages or accounts per se as explained in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, but it is a website which contains encyclopedic articles written about people who are considered to meet its criteria for inclusion and article content. So, the first thing you're going to need to do is self-assess whether Fortune is someone considered to be Wikipedia notable. Try looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people) and also perhaps this guide written by a Wikipedia administrator named Ian.thomson to see if that's a real possibility. If it is, then perhaps you could start working on a draft for a possible article about him, and then submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation for review when you think it's ready. You can find some general information on how articles are actually expected to be written and how citations are to be added to articles in Help:Your first article and Help:Referencing for beginners. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Brookesaunders: According to this search, this has been brought up a number of times, including Draft:James Fortune (photographer) by Brandyfortune that was declined for lack of sources, an editor Jamesfortune47 that was blocked for using the name of their apparent employer, which is not allowed, individual requests to various editors to try to get an article accepted, etc. I don't know if you are one of the previous people involved. If so, I'd suggest reviewing the plentiful informational links you've been given on policy and purpose of Wikipedia. It all comes down to whether you can demonstrate, via multiple independent, reliable sources that have covered him and his work in significant detail, that he is notable according to Wikipedia's criteria. If you are WP:PAID or have a relationship with him (WP:COI), those policies apply as well. Lastly, consider that having a Wikipedia article about you is not necessarily desirable and it is largely not under your control even if you do manage to write and have it accepted. Anyone editor is free to edit it, within Wikipedia guidelines and policies of course. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Adding WikiProject tags to drafts
Hello, I am trying to tag my draft with relevant WikiProject tags, to improve my odds of a speedy review. However when I try to I get an error that says "Please check the draft page title. It doesn't seem to be in draft namespace"
Any help is greatly appreciated, this is my first page I have created and I really want it to be accepted, so I can create more.
Thank you for your time 199.188.137.126 (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)ALLBN 199.188.137.126 (talk) 21:59, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, IP editor. You are not logged in, and this IP address of yours has only ever made just this one single edit at the Teahouse. So, it's impossible to look at your draft, as you didn't link to it. That said, it's not acceptable to add WikiProjects or Categories to draft pages. One should wait until a draft is approved and moved to the main part of the encyclopaedia. The best way of getting a speedy review is to ensure your draft is short, succinct, and references with good quality, independent reliable sources. But don't overdo the references: if you add in lots of trivial mentions you'll possibly put off reviewers, causing the process to lengthen, not shorten. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:44, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Expedite review
Hi there can anyone help me out here? Been almost 3 months that an article I wrote has been waiting to get reviewed. Is there any way to expedite the process? Hayleegraham (talk) 22:13, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hayleegraham Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As noted on your draft, "This may take 3 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 3,516 pending submissions waiting for review." You will need to continue to be patient. 331dot (talk) 22:17, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- Draft:Messinian (artist) now Declined. Reviewer left comments. There is a lot of puffery in the draft. Stuff like this: "With a relentless work ethic, a growing fan-base around the nation, and a commanding presence on stage, Messinian’s musical path was quickly met with global success. All that has to come out. And a paucity of refs. David notMD (talk) 03:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
First article
Hello, I'm new to Wiki. I just wrote my first article in the sandbox and want to publish to the public. I can't seem to find instructions to do this. Any help appreciated! Dave. Rocking Scoundrels (talk) 00:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Rocknig Scoundrels Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Please review the important information I will post to your user talk page regarding your username. Regarding your draft, I will shortly add the appropriate information to allow you to submit it for consideration as formally being part of the encyclopedia(it is "public" in that anyone who knows about it can find it, but it is not yet part of the encyclopedia). However, if you were to submit it now, it would be rejected quickly, because it has no independent reliable sources to support its content. A Wikipedia article must summarize what independent reliable sources say about (in this case) a band, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable band, not what the band wants to say about itself or what it considers to be its own history. Wikipedia is only interested in what others say about your band, with significant coverage.
- Successfully writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia, and it is even harder with a conflict of interest. If you have independent reliable sources completely unaffiliated with the band that give it significant coverage, you may rewrite your draft to only summarize those sources. If such sources are lacking, it would not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- (Pinging Rocking Scoundrels.) —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Add back links
How do I add back links? I’m new so I don’t know how to add back links. Bbaaeeee (talk) 00:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Bbaaeeee, would you please explain what you mean by back links? You could have replaced the link you removed by going to your Contributions page (found at top of any Wikipedia page if you are logged in), located the edit which removed the link, and clicked the edit's blue "undo" link.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Bbaaeeee: Linking to another Wikipedia article is done by surrounding the page name with double square brackets like
[[Foo]]
, which produces the blue link Foo (see WP:CHEATSHEET and MOS:LINK). Is that what you mean? —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:18, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Subject/headlines
"President-elect"
Discuss at Talk:President-elect of the United States
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YOUR PRESIDENT-ELECT PUBLICATION CONTRIDICTS ITSELF. IT SAYS BIDEN AND HARRIS ARE PRESIDENT/VP ELECTS, HOWEVER, REFER TO FIRST AND LAST SENTENCE OF CONGRESSIONAL ....THE 'ELECTS' ARE THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, AND NO ONE HAS BEEN ELECTED BY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE YET. MIGHT FEEL GOOD TO CONSIDER THE ARE PRESIDENT AND VP-ELECT, FOR PROPAGANDA REASONS, BUT VERY UNTRUE, AND ALL OTHER THINGS OUT THERE ARE UNTRUE. READ THE LAW READ THE LAW READ THE LAW 70.126.151.105 (talk) 07:40, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
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How to contact a specific editor?
I am interested in contacting Grey Wanderer from Missouri. I am a non-traditional student at a community college in southwest Missouri. I am considering editing the college's Wikipedia page next semester as part of a class project. DonneyC (talk) 08:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- DonneyC Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Every editor has a user talk page, such as mine: User talk:331dot. A user talk page is intended for communication with the named person. Some users also allow others to email them, with an "Email this user" link on the same page to the left; though users are not obligated to respond. 331dot (talk) 08:08, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- DonneyC, just post at User talk:Grey Wanderer. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 08:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm an audio-visual learner. Learning from reading is difficult for me. DonneyC (talk) 08:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
To contact Grey Wanderer, I just need to add a new section on their talk page? DonneyC (talk) 08:32, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- DonneyC You can start a new section, or just edit the entire page. 331dot (talk) 08:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Marketing
How the picture of any products can be replaced when it is wrong? 154.68.126.69 (talk) 09:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- From the title of this section I gather that WP:PAID applies to you. As for image corrections, the best path is probably to ask at WP:FFU to have a new image revision uploaded. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:38, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- I would also consider discussion image concerns on the relevant article's talk page. The problem with Wikimedia Commons is that there's tons of licencing controls, but virtually no quality control on the accuracy of the image and its labelling. Flagging up concerns over an image's use on a talk page is very helpful. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:10, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
What's the difference...
...between normal rollback and Twinkle rollback? Hello 10:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Hello 10:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lettherebedarklight, nothing. And there's also nothing different between rollback and undo. It's just... undoing. GeraldWL 10:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- ...so why do both exist? Just curious. Hello 10:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lettherebedarklight, absolutely no idea. Perhaps if you get rollback privileges, you can undo it quicker. I dunno. GeraldWL 10:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- ...so why do both exist? Just curious. Hello 10:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Lettherebedarklight, Gerald Waldo Luis. Rollback requires special privilege and is restricted as to when it may be used. It requires one click, doesn't ask for an edit summary, and I think it doesn't notify the person being reverted. —teb728 t c 10:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Undo bring up an edit screen which by default reverts the selected edit and has a canned edit summary, but you can edit anything on the page and change the edit summary. I seldom use Twinkle rollback, but as I recall it asks for a reason and adds the page to your watchlist. —teb728 t c 11:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Lettherebedarklight: Twinkle rollback has three options: Good faith, Regular, and Vandalism. Reverting as "vandalism" does not prompt for an edit summary, but the other two kinds do. In addition, Twinkle rollback opens the talk page of the user you're reverting, and makes it much easier to warn them, and as teb728 says it also adds the reverted page to your watchlist. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 12:07, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Population spread
Hey everyone, I'm very new at this so thank you in advance for helping me out.
I was looking at the page for my hometown Edmeston, New York and I noticed there was a red link to a page for "population spread," which does not exist on Wikipedia.
I looked around at other towns in the county to see what they put for population spread and it looks like they just do not link it to a page at all. Is this something that I should switch to plain text or is there another suggested page to link to?
Thank you! Otsegomaniac (talk) 14:00, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- If there isn't a link it should be redirected to, chances are you should just leave it. The red link guideline says, 'Do not remove red links unless you are certain that Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject, or if the red link could be replaced with a link to an article section where the subject is covered as part of a broader topic'. SnazzyInfinity (talk • contribs) 14:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Otsegomaniac and SnazzyInfinity I got curious so I Googled "population spread" - the first few pages of results mostly wrre about the management of invasive alien plants, none were about humans or cities at all. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:24, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Who are they?
Who are the editor who can review the drafts which are submitted for review. Adishere (talk) 14:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- The main people who review drafts submitted for review are people from the Articles for Creation WikiProject.
- The requirements to become a reviewer are:
- a Wikipedia account at least 90 days old.
- a minimum of 500 undeleted edits to articles.
- thoroughly read and understood the reviewing instructions.
- a demonstrated understanding of the policies mentioned in the reviewing instructions, including the various special notability categories.
- reasonable evidence of understanding the deletion policy (experience in areas such as CSD/AfD/PROD or page curation, while not mandatory, are beneficial).
- a willingness and ability to respond in a timely manner to questions about their reviews.
- Eyebeller (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Adishere. We also have a list of all active reviewers at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants. The shortcut to arrive at this same page is WP:AFC/P. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 14:25, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Lowercase sigmabot III stopped archiving my talk page
At the top of my talk page, I have the following archiving configuration:
{{User:MiszaBot/config
| algo = old(5d)
| archive = User talk:Eyebeller/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s
| archiveheader = {{Archive}}
| minthreadsleft = 5
}}
This seemed to have stopped working though. I have 6 threads on my talk page, enough for an archive and the oldest thread which I expect to be archived is 12 days old. Why doesn't it work? Eyebeller (talk) 14:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
How to make userbox call bracket thing?
Hello, @Sandy14156: was kind enough to make me a userbox to show that the user that displays it has an IP VPN exception. I read a bit on Wikipedia:Userboxes, but I still can't understand how I take the userbox and make a userbox code (I think that's the right term) that lets me embed it in my userpage. Here is the [[2]] if anyone wants to use it. I'm talking about the userbox text inside the curly brackets. Thank you to anyone who can help. Sorry if my lack of Wikipedia knowledge confuses you. SmileyTrek (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi SmileyTrek. You can do one of two things:
- Take the name of the userpage where it was created and call it to your userpage by surrounding that page title in curly brackets, i.e., template call markup. So, post where you want the userbox to display: {{User:Sandy14156/Userboxes/IP block}}; or
- Take the raw code from the userbox page, and post that to where you want the userbox to display. So, copy and paste this to your userpage:
{{Userbox | border-c = #FFD700 | id = IP | id-c = red | id-fc = #000000 | id-s = 14 | info = This user has an VPN IP block exemption. | info-c = gold | info-fc = black | info-s = 8 }}
- One advantage of using the raw code is that if the userbox ever gets deleted, modified, or vandalized, that won't affect your userpage display. (There's even a third option, which is to substitute the template call in (1) above to your userpage, which will have the same affect as (2) above, but I thought that limiting the options might be best.) Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Number of Wikipedia articles
How many Wikipedia articles are there? I lost count 😉 Jenerusmonkeyman426 (talk) 14:37, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- On the CreateAccount page, it says there are 6,190,094 articles. 14:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Eyebeller (talk) 14:50, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- The {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} and {{NUMBEROFPAGES}} WP:Magic words will give you the current numbers (6,931,494 and 62,152,495 respectively). ‑ Iridescent 14:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Jenerusmonkeyman426, the number of articles is also on the Main Page, in the banner at the top. It's not an exact number but updates frequently. —valereee (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
new article question by Poopas1994
Hello I am writing in regards to a subject and i was told i am trying to praise the subject what can i do to sound neutral this is the link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Poopas1994/sandbox --Poopas1994 (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Poopas1994 (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Poopas1994, sounds like you're being paid to make it. Note that being paid doesn't mean you get money, it simply means you're being told or coerced into doing so. If you're told to "praise the subject," you probably won't be able to make it neutral under the command of the one telling you to make the article. But if you really want to contribute to this encyclopedia and not care about that paid edit, I can help you with that. GeraldWL 16:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis I think that the OP was saying a reviewer told them they were praising the subject, not that they were instructed to praise it. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Poopas1994: adding the same reference over and over is not going to help your case. I will generate a source assesment according to WP:GNG in about half an hour. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Gerald Waldo Luis I think that the OP was saying a reviewer told them they were praising the subject, not that they were instructed to praise it. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Lol okay. Could you tell me how I can make it better? The invention is notable and I found links to its publishing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Poopas1994 (talk • contribs)
- @Poopas1994: Judging from the images you uploaded to Commons, which are of a far higher resolution and originality than is used by the subject on her Facebook and her website pages, and also because you seem to have access to all her patent documents, it suggests to me that you probably have a very close relationship with the designer, Christine Kato. If that is the case, you must declare that connection before you attempt to edit further. Instructions how to do that are at this page on Conflict of Interest and this page on paid editing. I have left similar advice for you on your talk page. Please also read PROMOTION and AUTOBIOGRAPHY to understand why trying to write about oneself or a close colleague is not a good idea. I would also add that if the 'Breast handbag' is itself notable and meets our notability criteria, then the article should be about that, and not about its creator. The overkill of images in Draft:Christine Kato suggests there is a dual purpose in trying to create this article, explained further here. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh okay that's true. I will change it to The Breast Handbag Design also from Website,FB,IG and google photos high resolution can be downloaded. --Poopas1994 (talk) 20:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ouch, source assesment took a while. Here we go:
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://guardian.ng/sunday-magazine/kato-ingenious-bag-designer-with-unusual-touch/ | ~ In large parts the subject's own words | appears to be reliable | about 3 pages if I were to print this excluding the ads | ~ Partial |
https://guardian.ng/guardian-woman/i-want-to-use-my-breast-bag-design-to-create-more-awareness-for-cancer-christine-kato/ | Interview | ~ Generally a reliable source, but Interviews are WP:PRIMARY | some coverage, howewer, still not independent | ✘ No |
http://www.eregistration.copyright.gov.ng/search/application?id=pSzmvc95sME%3d | ~ Patent entry | ~ Probbably reliable, but WP:PRIMARY again | directory entry | ✘ No |
http://www.alexreports.info/2019/01/boobs-i-want-to-use-my-breast-bag.html?m=1 | Dead link | Dead link | Dead link | ✘ No |
www.christinekato.com | Subject's website | ~ Subject's website, see WP:PRIMARY and WP:BLPPRIMARY | Interesting animation, but virtually no coverage. | ✘ No |
https://www.nigerianwomendiary.com/2019/04/a-unique-breast-bag-by-house-of-christine-art-and-designs/ | Could not be deterimed | Blog post | No coverage of Christine Kato, but rather on her campaing | ✘ No |
https://www.newswatch.ng/checkout-a-unique-artworks-created-by-house-of-christine-art-and-designs/ | Dead link | Dead link | Dead link | ✘ No |
RPD/RD/2016/495 | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | ? Unknown |
NG/P/2018/89 | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | ? Unknown |
NO AW0140 | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | No source location could be determined. | ? Unknown |
https://www.nigerianngo.com/blog/house-of-christine-is-raising-awareness-for-breast-cancer-through-fashion | guardian source | blog, WP:SELFPUB | this is sourced to the second ref examined | ✘ No |
https://www.pulse.ng/lifestyle/fashion/my-staff-have-been-told-to-cut-ties-with-me-says-ceo-of-house-of-christine-art-and/mb1k30v | interview | probbably reliable | about a lengthely page | ✘ No |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaOtlS98r6k | Interview | ~ Interview, also WP:RSPYT | ~ 4:20 interview | ✘ No |
https://twmagazine.net/tw-opinion/the-scourge-of-breast-ironing | ~ Possibly depending on interview contents not publicly available | possibly reliable | One short opinated paragraph probbably from itnerview | ✘ No |
https://www.pulse.ng/news/rising-dragons-christine-kato-house-of-christine/eqs4826 | ~ largely interview-like content | ~ News probbably reliable, interview contents definitely not | ~ Not much coverage apart from subject's own words | ~ Partial |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}. |
- Assesed revision: this one Victor Schmidt (talk) 17:54, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Question by Humpin04
Can I please Become a writer not an editor Humpin04 (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Humpin04. Editor is simply a generic term that is used to refer to Wikipedia users. It doesn't restrict you to "editing" - you can write article content too (providing you follow the rules, of course). Cordless Larry (talk) 17:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Reference Not Existing
I am trying to add references to a page, and I found a reference. I put the reference in the page, and it didn't have a link. I have typed the URL correctly. D4135t 19:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @D4135t: it didn't work because you ommited the http:// protocol, which is required for the software to turn something into a clickable link. I have added it for you this time. Note that I am not so sure if this topic meets WP:GNG resp. the source WP:SELFPUB. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @D4135t: A link is actually among the less important things in a proper citation, the purpose of which is to provide the reader with enough information to find the source if they want to verify it. Generally, the title, author, publisher, and date are the important parts. What you have included there is often called a "naked link". Please see WP:ERB for a quick tutorial on using the citation tool to generate more robust cites. Thanks. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Help with translation
Hi, i'm translating Street_newspaper in another language. I'm having difficulties with one line. From Street_newspaper#Modern_street_newspapers "Modern street newspapers began to emerge in the United States in the late 1980s in response to increasing levels of homelessness and homeless advocates' dissatisfaction with the mainstream media's portrayals of the homeless". What does "homeless advocates'" mean here? does it mean Advocate who are homeless? Could someone help me understand or simplify the line. Thanks. আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:38, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. It means someone who engages in Advocacy for the homeless. RudolfRed (talk) 20:44, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- RudolfRed, your link for "Advocacy" redirects to an article about advocates, as the term is used standardly but for a meaning that I believe is different from that intended here. (Its opening sentence is "An advocate is a professional in the field of law.") আফতাবুজ্জামান, perhaps: Modern street newspapers began to emerge in the United States in the late 1980s in response to (i) increasing levels of homelessness and (ii) dissatisfaction {among [people working to help the homeless]} with the way that the mainstream media portrayed the homeless. (I've {[bracketed]} in an attempt to show the structure.) Don't take my "working to help" to mean "employed and paid to help"; instead, it's "exerting efforts to help". These efforts may well have included housing and providing food and other materials/services; however, "advocacy" instead rather suggests pushing housing-related institutions to carry out the work (of housing) that they were supposed to do, agitating for and against homelessness-related legislation and budget changes, and so forth. A minority of the people described may have had paralegal or legal qualifications; however, there's no implication that they would have been advocates in the sense described in the Wikipedia article "Advocate". -- Hoary (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- My link to Advocacy does not redirect anywhere, so not sure what you are referring to. The advocate link for legal profession term was used the by OP. RudolfRed (talk) 01:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- However I do see that maybe it is not as useful as it could be. Apologies to the OP for any confusion. RudolfRed (talk) 01:21, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- My link to Advocacy does not redirect anywhere, so not sure what you are referring to. The advocate link for legal profession term was used the by OP. RudolfRed (talk) 01:19, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- RudolfRed, your link for "Advocacy" redirects to an article about advocates, as the term is used standardly but for a meaning that I believe is different from that intended here. (Its opening sentence is "An advocate is a professional in the field of law.") আফতাবুজ্জামান, perhaps: Modern street newspapers began to emerge in the United States in the late 1980s in response to (i) increasing levels of homelessness and (ii) dissatisfaction {among [people working to help the homeless]} with the way that the mainstream media portrayed the homeless. (I've {[bracketed]} in an attempt to show the structure.) Don't take my "working to help" to mean "employed and paid to help"; instead, it's "exerting efforts to help". These efforts may well have included housing and providing food and other materials/services; however, "advocacy" instead rather suggests pushing housing-related institutions to carry out the work (of housing) that they were supposed to do, agitating for and against homelessness-related legislation and budget changes, and so forth. A minority of the people described may have had paralegal or legal qualifications; however, there's no implication that they would have been advocates in the sense described in the Wikipedia article "Advocate". -- Hoary (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Template:User zh-yue-3
{{User zh-yue-3}}
For that template above, does it state that you can speak Cantonese, and not read it? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:25, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: I doubt it. I don't believe the "Babel" templates are meant to draw a distinction among speaking, reading, or writing. Google Translate says that template says "This user can communicate in proficient Cantonese", FWIW. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 21:52, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- AlanM1, Because I can only speak it, and not read it much. --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 21:53, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
I need help with an error message.
Hello,
While I was playing around in my own Sandbox page, I got an error in a citation:
3. ^Dombroskie, Jason J. (November 14, 2020). "A Matrix Key to Families, Subfamilies, and Tribes of Lepidoptera of Canada" (PDF). Canadian Journal of Arthropod Identification. No. 17 (July 2011): 1–129 – via doi:10.3752/cjai.2011.17. line feed character in |title= at position 39.
I am trying to follow the error message, but I cannot seem to find anything wrong. I also went to the help page, but I cannot seem to find the error. Maybe I need an expert's eyes to find it.
Thank you for reading this message.
Kind Regards,
Haemocyanin11 (talk) 22:22, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to the Teahuse Haemocyanin11. Some how a blank space had been inserted into the title line separating it into two sections. I fixed it with this edit. Sometimes it is a copy paste error but other things can cause that as well. Regards. MarnetteD|Talk 22:29, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Script to update redirected article or template names
Hi all, following my highly successful earlier questions (thanks collectively for your help) I have another one:
I often edit templates and navboxes and occasionally stumble on a list such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Lists of pages/Templates where it would be very useful to have a script that will update the page with the new titles of the current templates, as, often, article or template titles have been moved and it's quite cumbersome to manually correct them.
I thought this is probably a fairly standard problem and would like to ask if anyone knows a script that could do this? I currently have the very useful link analysis script which is related but not entirely what I am looking for
Thanks, and would you mind pinging me in your response, Tom (LT) (talk) 03:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Image on website; can I use it?
This website has a picture of a coal mine toward the bottom of the page. At the extreme bottom of the page is the note"© 2020 City of Carterville, ILPhotography Credit to Devin Miller". Can I use this image in a Wikpedia article, with attribution? NoPatriarchy (talk) 03:49, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Need to Correct Historical Injustice
Can one of the editors correct the information regarding the origin of rice? Due to China's usual behavior of masking and altering their history, making people across the globe believe their lies about the origins of rice, let alone the fact that they have 0 increased cases of COVID-19, people are growing up stupid, thinking that China was the origin of rice when South Korea was. See BBC News link that was created with information sent from the science faculty of a South Korean University a decade or two ago. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3207552.stm
I am tired of China attempting to steal and conceal Korea's culture, including the recent incident where a Chinese mobile game and Youtuber claimed that the traditional Korean clothing 'hanbok' was theirs. It is no different from historical injustice and I wish to correct people's misunderstandings about the world. TruthFinderxx (talk) 03:58, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- We are emphatically not interested in your agenda. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 04:08, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- @TruthFinderxx: Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs. Having said that, you might want to discuss the subject with other editors at Talk:Rice, since the article's origin section could perhaps benefit from expansion. Just be sure to leave all the (anti-)propaganda stuff out; you'll get a much better response. —[AlanM1 (talk)]— 07:59, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Evidence for Korean origin is already in the article under subsection "Other hypotheses." If there are more refs in support, add there. After, start a discussion on the Talk page about origin. The article as written already covers a China or India first dispute. David notMD (talk) 09:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Reliable source
Are these three books reliable to make changes in Udal of Mahoba:-
1.A Critical Survey of Hindi Literature[3]
2.Hindi Literature[4]
3.The Last Hindu Emperor: Prithviraj Cauhan and the Indian Past, 1200–2000[5] Sumit banaphar (talk) 05:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Greetings, Sumit banaphar. You should ask at the page Talk:Udal of Mahoba.--Quisqualis (talk) 07:25, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Greetings, Sumit banaphar. You should ask at the page Talk:Udal of Mahoba.--Quisqualis (talk) 07:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- At least the third one looks like a decent source, and since I could largely access it I can have an opinion on it. The question then becomes "What does it say about Udal of Mahoba and what content do you want to add to the article based on it?" And that is a discussion for Talk:Udal of Mahoba. Or WP:RSN, but talkpages are the place to start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:13, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
SPEEDY DELETION
Why is BricknBolt page getting deleted? I have provided citations whic cover the content and have written the page from a non biased point? Please give me some pointers from the page which can be edited so that the page is not deleted.
Thank You NitinBnB (talk) 05:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- It isn't up for speedy deletion, it's at a deletion debate. Read the AfD. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Takes a strong man to deny... 05:56, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- The deletion discussion is here. (I see that you refer above to the company as "BricknBolt", while the article variously uses "Brick&Bolt", "Brick & Bolt", and "BrickBolt".) Maproom (talk) 07:48, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Per the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brick&Bolt, all the refs you used are derived from press releases about the company receiving some start-up funding. At least three independent refs are needed. Separately, you have been asked to declare your presumed paid relationship on your User page. David notMD (talk) 09:29, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Hijacking article
This page K. Annamalai has a history of hijacking to a police officer with a same name who joined a political party recently. Lipute17 is doing it again. Please someone remove it, this is not the police officer annamalai. 2409:4072:391:41F7:3CAB:3AE2:CAB8:31D3 (talk) 07:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Done. Wow, there really is a long history of confusion between two people with same name. The existing article is a Stub with one (broken) ref, so easy to understand why people acting in good faith believe they are adding content in the right place. David notMD (talk) 09:39, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Submission error
have got an error like this This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. hope refrencing has done correctly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Raghu_Shastry AjKa180 (talk) 09:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- The draft you created has 15 refs. You could ask the declining reviewer why those were not considered reliable. David notMD (talk) 09:46, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Question by Krobbyzw
Hello! I was wondering if Wikipedia keeps any record of historically controversial topics such as the actions of John Lionel Blakiston. I recently created https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Krobbyzw/John_Lionel_Blakiston with support from Encyclopedia Rhodesia. I understand that the Mugabe administration has been vilifying the "Pioneer Column" and I have not encountered the Mnangagwa Administration's views on the subject yet.
Many thanks for your time :-) Krobbyzw (talk) 11:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC) Krobbyzw (talk) 11:42, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Entry
How do you make a entry FHS Racing (talk) 12:52, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! Can you please clarify what you mean by an "entry"? Do you mean an article? Eyebeller (talk) 13:27, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- FHS Racing I recommend learning to edit first. Check out Wikipedia:Wikipedia Adventure TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 16:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Keep getting messages about edits I didn't make
Hi there
I keep getting messages when I go on Wikipedia that my IP address has made edits to the page. I can guarantee no one in my family has been making these edits.
Is there any way that I can get it to stop? 197.229.142.65 (talk) 13:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- create an account. Unfortunally, because of the nature of Ip adresses, this is the only option. Remember so choose an appropiate username, see the username policy. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:58, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi IP 197.229.142.65. You can see all of the edits being made by the IP address here. There have only been three made so far (unless some others have been deleted): the one you made when posting here at the Teahouse and two others made to the article Raw material. There's no way to tell who made those two edits, and the best that anyone looking at the account's edit history can say is that they were made using the same IP address. Since IP accounts don't require a password to use, one benefit of creating an account would be that, in principle, only you would be able to use it; in other words, edits made by others using the same IP address would not be attributed to your account. -- Marchjuly (talk) 14:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. This is fairly hypothetical—might or might not work depending on your particular setup—but for me, if I unplug my modem, wait at least thirty seconds, and then reconnect, my IP address is usually reassigned.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:16, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
List of music memes
I remember there was a page, I think it might've been a category page, that listed a bunch of "music memes" such as PPAP, Baby Shark, and Shooting Stars to name a few. I can not find this page. If anyone knows where it is, or whether it is still up or not, please notify me as soon as you can. Thanks. TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 15:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC) TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 15:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
(Reply to message above) Nevermind, I found it. TrevortniDesserpedx (talk) 15:40, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- For those who need to know, I'm guessing they found Category:Music memes. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
User Status
Hello. I made a user status page and put the text "school" there. However, my status won't show on my user page. Does anyone know how to fix this? Jackalope 10 16:34, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- On your userpage you put
{{UserStatus|User:Jackalope 10/school}}
. It should be{{UserStatus|User:Jackalope10/status}}
. Cheers!Use {{re|PorkchopGMX}} to ping
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Latest stable software release templates
Why the most software versions in category are not updated to the last versions? It is not best solution to centralize all versions on Wikidata? --37.116.102.74 (talk) 17:04, 15 November 2020 (UTC)