Talk:Midna/Archive 1

Voice Actress

Does anybody know who the voice actress of Midna is?

i can't believe i'm responding to this, but you're kidding, right? HiS oWn 05:55, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

actually, now that I think about it, could be valid. I'll look into it. HiS oWn 05:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

It's Akiko Kawamoto, according to the game's entry in the Japanese Wikipedia (under the characters section). I've added this to the article on Midna. Tony Myers 05:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Midna is zelda?

Can anyone confirm this? Its stated in zelda's article she is midna. [1]

I'm halfway through the game, and all signs point to NO on that one. While a connection between Midna and Zelda is made (after the third dungeon) that could be somewhat construed as such a thing, they are still very much two separate entities. Actually, I read the info in the spoiler area of this article a couple dungeons ago, and so far everything seems to be correct, so the whole thing is likely valid. --Kaleb.G 03:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I beat the game on Saturday: the answer is a straight no. SixteenBitJorge 03:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I think they were trying to say that Midna is the shadowy doppelganger of Zelda, like the parallels between characters in Oot and Majora's Mask. Midna serves the same purpose in her world that Zelda serves in hers: They both rule over it. Certainly not the same person, but similar roles: Yes. Commander Regulus 21:20, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

Personally, I don't see any resemblance between Midna's helm and Majora's Mask...anyone else think this should be taken out?

-Nor do I, but I do note the surprising resemblance Midna has to Veran, I would definitely leave that in.

 Yeah Midna Bears a resemblance to Veran Someone should put a picture of Veran up right next to a picture of Midna for a comparison. I would do it but I don't know how to put pictures up.Hero Of Hyrule 16:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)Hero_Of_Hyrule

I've removed the stuff about Majora's Mask because there's no citation and simply comparing the two can tell you it's wrong. The comparison to Veran seems valid. Anyone think it's worth adding a note that there seems to be a resemblance between Onox and Zant as well? It's noted on Zant's page and it's an interesting coincidence but I can't see any real reason for it. Corbo 14:55, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the removal. The same user also addded that info to the Majora article as well. --69.156.206.239 05:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Midna true form and spoilers

Appropriate picture?

Not that the picture of Midna in her true form isn't very pretty and all, but I'm unaware of how to put up pictures, and I think one of her as she is in 99.9% of the game would be appropriate (as the imp, that is). Anyone able to put one up? Kylara21 01:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there a way to mark Midna's true form as a spoiler - sometimes people may want to finish the game first to reveal Midna's form. hylian_loach 06:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It was below the spoiler tags, to be fair.

Sorry, but it is rather hard to not notice it, and I see comment tags have been added pointing this out =D hylian_loach 23:00, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Will people STOP putting the picture back up? ~Just a Lazy Guest 22:20, 19 December 2006 (EST)

Lack of Midna's true form pic

Why is that?

The entire story section is a spoiler fest. So why are you REMOVING IT, I don't get it. The story info is a spoiler already. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.44.86.202 (talk) 04:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

People don't need to read the section if they don't want to. But it's kind of hard to not see a picture. ~ Just a Lazy Guest —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.82.238 (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

And for that reason, I've replaced the image with a link. That ok? Gaiacarra 16:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

No, it is not. These discussions are a few weeks old, mine is not.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

-you guys need to return it to how it was yesterday, when the pic was in a link format...this way it doesn't spoil it for everyone else...yeah its under the Spoilers but its a picture...kind of hard not to notice it

See my discussion below.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Image

There is absolutely no reason that this image of Midna should not be included in the article. There are spoiler tags there for a reason, and there is no decent way of dealing with this situation. Other than statements by "Just a Lazy Guest", there appears to be nothing else mentioned against the retention of the image. If it is not linked, it is deleted. It is being used in an encyclopedic context to describe the character within the game, and there is no free alternative. Seeing as this article is only extremely small on my screen, the spoiler tags exist for a reason for users with smaller screen resolutions.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 10:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Collating and summary

I've just combined all the talk regarding the Midna's true form and spoilers under its own subsection so its easier to follow. I'll put myself down for agreement with Ryūlóng. The image should be included in the article as it is important information regarding the character. The spoiler tag is already there so readers have been forewarned of spoilers. And furthermore, according to Wikipedia:Spoiler warning#Unacceptable alternatives, it has already been considered that if readers really do not want to be spoiled, then they would have disabled images from being loaded on their browser, QED. --Paultran 14:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay not so QED -_-. The Wikipedia guidelines doesn't say anything about images and spoilers. Still nevertheless, imo the image should stay up. We could improve this page with more information and push the image further down so its 'better' for readers who don't want to be spoiled. Removing informative images just because it would spoil the story for some readers would be worse for Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. --Paultran 14:33, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

There was a similar dispute like this with Zant's article. I would put up a picture of his unmasked form... then some loop would come along and take it down. I'm downright confused.SilentWind 12:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

The simple thing is that you put it back on and contact the person on his/her talk page about what they did and how you disagree.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:26, 5 January 2007 (UTC)