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Early history

The early history section of this article was copied without acknowledgement from the identical pages at [1] and [2]. These pages are in very poor English - the writer has no grasp of tenses - and is rather jingoistic and not particularly accurate. Working from memory I have altered the early history sections but this is a temporary fix - someone really needs to do the job properly. Also something on the War of Attrition would be good.

and I shall see to its development.

Maybe the article need REW because: 1. "Egypt found itself attacking Israel with the British withdrawal from Palestine and the founding of Israel in 1947."

Maybe the British forces were withdrawing from Israel in 1947, but the withdrawal finished only in May 1948- and only then Israel was founded.

2. "The Egyptian Air Force contributed to this conflict with C-47 Dakotas and Spitfires, claiming two Israeli aircraft destroyed, although unfortunately many more Egyptian aircraft were lost"

POV

3. "After Nasser decided to nationalize the Suez Canal, Egypt got involved in a war with Israel, France, and the United Kingdom."

First of all, Israel declered war on Egypt because Egypt closed straits of Tiran- and it should but said here. Secondly, "got involved" is bad explanation for the situation - the meaning of closing straits of Tiran and naionalizing the Suez canal was a war - the leadership in Egypt, and Nasser knew it.

4. "These strikes were launched at 2 p.m. October 6 and were made without any air opposition from the Israeli air force"

It's not true. Please read 2-28 Air Battle.

Wikify and NPOV tags

I have added Wikify and POV tags, because:

- the syntax and grammar of this article should be improved.

- there is a pro-Egyptian bias,

- I don't have the knowledge to tackle the work myself.

(although I respectfully disagree with the critique of the term "got involved", as the vast majority of non-Zionist opinion is that Israel started the war by attacking Egypt - c.f. 1973, when Egypt started the war by attacking Israel, and I consider the article cited - "2-28 Air Battle" has a pro-Israeli bias and is liable to fall foul of the deletion police for being non-notable). Winstonwolfe 07:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article has vastly improved, well done. Tags removed. Winstonwolfe 05:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Though i'm not sure where the comment about buying F-22s beamed in from - I'd quite like an F22 too, but I don't have the cash, or security clearance Winstonwolfe 05:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of EAF aircraft

While a list of current EAF aircraft is appropriate in the article, I notice it has expanded to include some "retired" types. Perhaps the authors would care to create a new List of Aircraft of the Egyptian Air Force, including all types operated historically; such lists exist for many other air forces.Winstonwolfe 02:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 Though i'm not sure where the comment about buying F-22s beamed in from - I'd quite like an F22 too, but I don't have the cash, or security clearance [[User:Winstonwolfe|Winstonwolfe]] 05:11, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
+==List of EAF aircraft==
+While a list of current EAF aircraft is appropriate in the article, I notice it has expanded to include some "retired" types.  Perhaps the authors would care to create a new [[List of Aircraft of the Egyptian Air Force]], including all types operated historically; such lists exist for many other air forces.[[User:Winstonwolfe|Winstonwolfe]] 02:28, 9 January 2007 (UTC)