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:{{u|Impediguy}}, There are already three citations on that sentence. If you are unhappy with them for some reason, you may explain on the article talk page. Embedding lengthy criticism into a citation needed tag is not how things are done on Wikipedia. It is 'personal commentary' because it is your own opinion, in your own voice. That belongs on the talk page. Any criticism that you want to add that is based on [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], should be added to the article, but expect that any unsourced criticisms will be removed. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie#top|talk]]) 21:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC) |
:{{u|Impediguy}}, There are already three citations on that sentence. If you are unhappy with them for some reason, you may explain on the article talk page. Embedding lengthy criticism into a citation needed tag is not how things are done on Wikipedia. It is 'personal commentary' because it is your own opinion, in your own voice. That belongs on the talk page. Any criticism that you want to add that is based on [[WP:RS|reliable sources]], should be added to the article, but expect that any unsourced criticisms will be removed. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie#top|talk]]) 21:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{u:MrOllie}}, I will do as you suggest and take my criticism to the talk page. However, this article needs at least one citation from a respected engineering source, which software is not. Otherwise, the entire article is self-proclamation and conjecture (i.e. your opinion, not mine. In your own voice, not an engineer's.). The citations you point out are all software references devoid of any engineering methods or "approaches" that could be used when writing software, and therefore are not sufficient to support the concept of "software engineering". In fact, no "engineering approach" at all is described in the entire article that might be applicable to software. Thus, I will request another citation. If you then delete my request again, regardless if it seems like opinion to you, which is nevertheless a perfectly legitimate reason to ask for a citation, I will report your behavior to Wikipedia. You could avoid the criticism by providing a citation, which in my "opinion", is not possible. |
:{{u:MrOllie}}, I will do as you suggest and take my criticism to the talk page. However, this article needs at least one citation from a respected engineering source, which software is not. Otherwise, the entire article is self-proclamation and conjecture (i.e. your opinion, not mine. In your own voice, not an engineer's.). The citations you point out are all software references devoid of any engineering methods or "approaches" that could be used when writing software, and therefore are not sufficient to support the concept of "software engineering". In fact, no "engineering approach" at all is described in the entire article that might be applicable to software. Thus, I will request another citation. If you then delete my request again, regardless if it seems like opinion to you, which is nevertheless a perfectly legitimate reason to ask for a citation, I will report your behavior to Wikipedia. You could avoid the criticism by providing a citation, which in my "opinion", is not possible. |
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[[User:Impediguy|Impediguy]] ([[User talk:Impediguy|talk]]) 03:50, 26 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Disagree with Changes
As per your comment, my changes are not neutral. I never understand your point because I added additional information for the readers to understand more about the page. I think the Wiki Pages should be updated with new information instead of keeping old information, that's why I added this information. If my content is promotional then I can agree with your comment, but my published content is totally user-friendly and worthy of them. I request to review again my content and it would be great if can publish it with as per knowledge. Nilesh (talk) 05:58, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a place for you to simply add your personal opinion, you must write neutrally and you should base all additions on sources. Additionally, Wikipedia is not a howto site - you should not address the reader directly. - MrOllie (talk) 13:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Confused editor
Nonsense? That sounds pretty opinionated to me. And very rude. My addition of the distinguish template was made in good faith, as I think the two diseases are very similar sounding and someone searching for one disease may get confused w Crazytonyi (talk) 21:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- You have me confused with someone else. - MrOllie (talk) 21:27, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Not Adding Spam!
Hey there!, I'm adding website links with the motive to add knowledge to the Wikipedia pages (wherever citation or broken links are present). The Link on Social Media Optimization ( Reference 8) is also a blog. Please let me know how can we consider a blog from Oracle (that's outdated and broken)as worthy to stay live instead of a fresh and researched blog on some other website. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravinder3790 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Please stop changing BN66
I have been asked by one of the lead campaigners to make edits to the BN66 page so it accurately reflects the position. You attempted to undo thses changes and revert to the old text. I have re instated my changes.Please leave tham as is. Thank you. Signed Taxingtothepoint — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxingtothepoint (talk • contribs) 13:31, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- No. You have been reverted, you must now build consensus for your changes, see WP:BRD, but a wholesale whitewash of the article is not appropriate, especially from an editor who has just admitted to having a conflict of interest. - MrOllie (talk) 13:33, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
There's no conflict of interest. The person concerned is not IT literate. neither is there any whitewashing of the article. It clarifies the tax planning and lack of clarity on the part of HMG. taxingtothepoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taxingtothepoint (talk • contribs) 13:43, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
My request for citation was neither personal nor commentary
I notice that there are a lot of complaints about erasing edits other contributors, as mine is too.
My request for citation was a professional request, and that is why I mentioned engineering licensing to justify the term "engineer".
Nor was my request personal. It is professional because I know what these "engineering approaches" are and do not see them cited anywhere in the document. Contrarily, I specifically asked for citations on how a programmer can apply engineering skills to predict or prevent failures of things such as airplanes (i.e. "there is no amount of software that can make airplanes safe.")
I intend to add to the section on criticism, and it will be stronger than my reason for asking for a citation.
FYI, I once worked for a person claiming to be a "systems engineer", but turned out to have only programming skills. Yet, I was licensed as a Mechanical Engineer, and she had no clue what my skills were and my value to the company. (yes, this is a personal example of professional corruption and industrial negligence).
Otherwise, why can't programmers just call themselves Computer Scientists? Think about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Impediguy (talk • contribs) 20:37, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Impediguy, There are already three citations on that sentence. If you are unhappy with them for some reason, you may explain on the article talk page. Embedding lengthy criticism into a citation needed tag is not how things are done on Wikipedia. It is 'personal commentary' because it is your own opinion, in your own voice. That belongs on the talk page. Any criticism that you want to add that is based on reliable sources, should be added to the article, but expect that any unsourced criticisms will be removed. MrOllie (talk) 21:05, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Template:U:MrOllie, I will do as you suggest and take my criticism to the talk page. However, this article needs at least one citation from a respected engineering source, which software is not. Otherwise, the entire article is self-proclamation and conjecture (i.e. your opinion, not mine. In your own voice, not an engineer's.). The citations you point out are all software references devoid of any engineering methods or "approaches" that could be used when writing software, and therefore are not sufficient to support the concept of "software engineering". In fact, no "engineering approach" at all is described in the entire article that might be applicable to software. Thus, I will request another citation. If you then delete my request again, regardless if it seems like opinion to you, which is nevertheless a perfectly legitimate reason to ask for a citation, I will report your behavior to Wikipedia. You could avoid the criticism by providing a citation, which in my "opinion", is not possible.