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* Prose does not meet FA standards at times, and the History section is particularly clumsy; |
* Prose does not meet FA standards at times, and the History section is particularly clumsy; |
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* The relationship between Weymouth and Melcombe Regis has to be better explained, from what I gather they were separate towns that were unified at one point, but the prose is clumsy; |
* The relationship between Weymouth and Melcombe Regis has to be better explained, from what I gather they were separate towns that were unified at one point, but the prose is clumsy; |
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*:You gather correctly; hopefully I have now made clearer.--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
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* The History section feels disjointed, in one sentence we're talking about coastal erosion, in the next about the English Civil War; |
* The History section feels disjointed, in one sentence we're talking about coastal erosion, in the next about the English Civil War; |
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* "Weymouth's esplanade is composed of Georgian terraces, which have been converted into apartments, shops, hotels and guest houses." - Why is this in the History section? |
* "Weymouth's esplanade is composed of Georgian terraces, which have been converted into apartments, shops, hotels and guest houses." - Why is this in the History section? |
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*:No idea. Moved.--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
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* There is a circular reference to Wikipedia in the Governance section; |
* There is a circular reference to Wikipedia in the Governance section; |
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*:Fixed.--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
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* This article follows a not very intuitive structure (History --> Governance --> Geography), shouldn't it be Geography --> History --> (...) --> Politics? |
* This article follows a not very intuitive structure (History --> Governance --> Geography), shouldn't it be Geography --> History --> (...) --> Politics? |
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*:I somewhat agree but this article follows the order set out in [[Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements]]' MOS.--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
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* I was under the impression that several English seaside resorts suffered from deprivation, is this not the case in Weymouth? The above comment seems to hint at it, and I find claims, for instance, that [https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/17945200.weymouth-portland-among-10-deprived-areas-uk/ "Weymouth & Portland among 10% most deprived areas in UK"]. Compare how the issue is given its due weight in recently promoted Featured Article on an English seaside town [[Skegness#Workforce_and_deprivation]]. |
* I was under the impression that several English seaside resorts suffered from deprivation, is this not the case in Weymouth? The above comment seems to hint at it, and I find claims, for instance, that [https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/17945200.weymouth-portland-among-10-deprived-areas-uk/ "Weymouth & Portland among 10% most deprived areas in UK"]. Compare how the issue is given its due weight in recently promoted Featured Article on an English seaside town [[Skegness#Workforce_and_deprivation]]. |
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: Following FAR, I've spotted some close paraphrasing of [https://web.archive.org/web/20060624195456/http://www.thewordtravels.com/thomas-hardy-and-dorset.html thewordtravels] that should be resolved. The source does not seem high quality, but it definetely pre-dates the inclusion of that Thomas Hardy paragraph in the Wikipedia article. [[User:RetiredDuke|RetiredDuke]] ([[User talk:RetiredDuke|talk]]) 17:45, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
: Following FAR, I've spotted some close paraphrasing of [https://web.archive.org/web/20060624195456/http://www.thewordtravels.com/thomas-hardy-and-dorset.html thewordtravels] that should be resolved. The source does not seem high quality, but it definetely pre-dates the inclusion of that Thomas Hardy paragraph in the Wikipedia article. [[User:RetiredDuke|RetiredDuke]] ([[User talk:RetiredDuke|talk]]) 17:45, 28 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::Fixed.--[[User:Ykraps|Ykraps]] ([[User talk:Ykraps|talk]]) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC) |
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This is a good well written article. But a Google search throws up lots of references to social problems, inequality, and significant deprivation in the town, especially in the Melcombe Regis area which isn't mentioned by the article at all. Also the history section stops in 1945. MapReader (talk) 21:36, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
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This Featured Article was promoted in 2006 and has never been reviewed since. The article's nomination at FAC was very, very superficial and the nominator, User:Rossenglish, has not edited since 2008.
A few of the issues spotted:
- There is significant unsourced content in this article, particularly in the History section;
- Prose does not meet FA standards at times, and the History section is particularly clumsy;
- The relationship between Weymouth and Melcombe Regis has to be better explained, from what I gather they were separate towns that were unified at one point, but the prose is clumsy;
- You gather correctly; hopefully I have now made clearer.--Ykraps (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- The History section feels disjointed, in one sentence we're talking about coastal erosion, in the next about the English Civil War;
- "Weymouth's esplanade is composed of Georgian terraces, which have been converted into apartments, shops, hotels and guest houses." - Why is this in the History section?
- No idea. Moved.--Ykraps (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- There is a circular reference to Wikipedia in the Governance section;
- Fixed.--Ykraps (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- This article follows a not very intuitive structure (History --> Governance --> Geography), shouldn't it be Geography --> History --> (...) --> Politics?
- I somewhat agree but this article follows the order set out in Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements' MOS.--Ykraps (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that several English seaside resorts suffered from deprivation, is this not the case in Weymouth? The above comment seems to hint at it, and I find claims, for instance, that "Weymouth & Portland among 10% most deprived areas in UK". Compare how the issue is given its due weight in recently promoted Featured Article on an English seaside town Skegness#Workforce_and_deprivation.
The article does not meet the Wikipedia:Featured article criteria and needs substantial work to rise to current standards. RetiredDuke (talk) 23:28, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Following FAR, I've spotted some close paraphrasing of thewordtravels that should be resolved. The source does not seem high quality, but it definetely pre-dates the inclusion of that Thomas Hardy paragraph in the Wikipedia article. RetiredDuke (talk) 17:45, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- Fixed.--Ykraps (talk) 12:05, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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