Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in Israel

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Shalom,

Why can't you stupid fools stop spreading and catching Chinavirus. You have ruined my business and ruined my life and continue to ruin everyone's lives. Why can't you take off your shoes when you go home and immediately wash your hands and face. Why don't you dummies wear a simple mask when around people? What's wrong with you idiots? Don't you know about personal hygiene?

The page you are maintaining is highly informative "2020 coronavirus pandemic in Israel" (pl note that note Coronavirus and Pandemic are spelled with capital letters)

What would be very informative would be to breakdown the new case statistics into 2 categories: (1) for new cases which are people arrive from overseas. (It can be assumed that most of the cases currently reported are tourists or people coming back from overseas that are sick) (2) The number of new cases in Israel or in Palestine that were resident and did not come back from overseas

The number of new cases in Israel or in Palestine that were resident and did not come back from overseas is a very important number as it allows you to know whether the epidemic is spreading or under control.

If you are interested, JLM-BioCity is a forum of bioprofessionals in the Jerusalem area with plenty of ph.d.s in any area you want.

Best regards,

Joe van Zwaren

March 14 2020 Good.o.joe (talk) 18:47, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I've created a table with cases divided by date and district. Please continue to added more known cases or direct me to good sources that publish daily numbers. Emailsson (talk) 15:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject COVID-19

I've created WikiProject COVID-19 as a temporary or permanent WikiProject and invite editors to use this space for discussing ways to improve coverage of the ongoing 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. Please bring your ideas to the project/talk page. Stay safe, --Another Believer _(Talk) 17:25, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Article layout

Is this really the best presentation, writing paragraph after paragraph in a timeline? At some point it will be pretty hard to read. Yoninah (talk) 22:52, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Let's make a list of subsections within the Timeline that we would like to have. How about: First cases, Government response, ???. Also, what new sections are missing? Segoldberg (talk) 11:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, @Segoldberg:, sorry I couldn't get back so soon. I'm just looking at similar articles like 2020 coronavirus pandemic in the United States and seeing much better organization than a timeline. It would make sense to have broader categories like First cases, Government response, Economic impact, with subsections under the appropriate categories for the cell phone monitoring, travel restrictions, school closures, social distancing, etc. I think the United States article has a good outline in place. Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I started. Also peeking at the Hebrew page to see what is missing. Segoldberg (talk) 19:05, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Is there any way to reduce the size of that chart in the middle of the page? Yoninah (talk) 19:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

There are only 3 allowed widths, we are at the widest. If narrower, the columns "split" - they carry over to the next date, with no label. I will see what's happening on other countries' pages. Segoldberg (talk) 21:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

For future reference: Increase the factor=3 to a higher value on the Template page [1]. Done. Segoldberg (talk) 21:34, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm opening an "Exit Strategy" section, since it is official.Segoldberg (talk) 20:08, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Statistics updates

See Template_talk:2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_data/Israel_medical_cases — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conan (talk • contribs) 05:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

To all those updating the statistics, please do it in all 3 places: the infobox, the daily cases chart, and the Statistics section. Thanks. Segoldberg (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi - @Segoldberg: question: Ministry of Health (MOH) telegram has a graph updated 25/3 showing daily positive test results. I corrected daily cases chart according to that graph from MOH but summing those numbers results in different daily totals than what we have in the infobox or worldometers.info. Should I revert daily new cases so the cumulative sum matches daily totals in the infobox and if so what is our source for daily new cases? Rachelye (talk) 17:11, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I also noticed the discrepancy. The infobox has been following the official Israeli Telegram site, which unfortunately does not have the data in convenient format. I will look around for an official summary. I would distrust Worldmeters - per earlier discussion on the world pandemic page, they were adding some modelling in. I can't find the thread now, their talk page is very dynamic. Segoldberg (talk) 17:25, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Also, I removed the Case Doubling Time because it is clearly off. The rate is not constant, so should be calculated over a few days only, not all-time data. The past 2 days should be showing something closer to 5, since 1.14^5.29 is approx. 2. Segoldberg (talk) 17:29, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I would like to put this back, it's a very interesting graph that shows whether we are 'flattening the curve'. I could calculate it differently e.g. each day, calculating over the past doubling_time_days to get the updated doubling time. I'm aiming for something like this: China's doubling time https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KJBQ7GiyvFTBnSEEC/growth-rate-of-covid-19-outbreaks. Actually what is more interesting is doubling time per city - national average is doubling in 3 days while Bnei Brak is doubling every day. Unfortunately MOH not releasing info per city Rachelye (talk) 18:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

I think that would be ok, just state the parameters used (doubling_time_days=?) in the Notes section (or somewhere else) in the graph. Do you have a source for the Bnei Brak claim? Data for different cities would certainly be relevant to the statistics section. Segoldberg (talk) 19:17, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Just saw this [2]. Segoldberg (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Source is Ha'aretz in Hebrew, has data on a bunch of cities comparing 3 day increase Monday to Thursday last week - but article is premium [3]. Can that be used as a source? Rachelye (talk) 19:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Looks like its fine, see "non-English sources".[4] Those interested can Google-translate the page. Segoldberg (talk) 21:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Paywall is also ok, though of course open sources are preferred. See "give the link even if access is restricted" [5] Segoldberg (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed discrepancies between the infobox and the statistics and graphs sections. The infobox seems to have the official numbers while the other two possibly have non-final daily numbers published in the morning. In any case, numbers in all three locations should match. Also, in the infobox, 29/3/2020 should show an 11% increase not 17.185.175.33.246 (talk) 19:15, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. Can you point us to the correct source? Where did the infobox numbers come from? Segoldberg (talk) 19:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

The correct source would be the Israeli Ministry of Health social media, for example telegram here: https://t.me/s/MOHreport . Unfortunately I couldn't find a nice graph or table in the official pages, just individual reports, but these can be found in the Israeli news. For example see the graph in this article https://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-5703817,00.html (data updated directly from the ministry of health). 185.175.33.246 (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Can you point out a source for the 2020-03-28 number 3824 ? I am seeing 3619. If there is no source for these new numbers, we will revert. Segoldberg (talk) 19:58, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, you're right, the graph I linked to seems to have different numbers than previous graphs i've seen. Sorry, will look for a better source. 185.175.33.246 (talk) 20:01, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

After looking into it I came to the conclusiton that the infobox has numbers that would fit nicely with a midnight count but I can't find a source for it. They're close to the 9am update numbers of the next day, slightly less. As I don't know who updates this I can't tell where they're taking the numbers from, but it does seem to be correct. 185.175.33.246 (talk) 20:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I think it is more than that - the very first cases' dates (for example, case 2) have been adjusted, perhaps to the date at which the test was taken (as opposed to the results obtained). But we need a source! Segoldberg (talk) 20:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

In the last week, MOH publishes a report *every night at 21:00*. Can we agree, going forward to use the numbers from this report? That report shows total cases from which we can subtract and get the new cases plus lots of other interesting info such as critical cases, ventilated, released from hospital.. that I am itching to graph. I would also like to graph deaths by categories: age, sex, pre-existing (y/n), old age home (y/n). All those numbers are true as of 21:00, it's a useful cutoff for us and furthermore the data for the graphs would be even more reliably and accurately sourced if we state that all the raw data is from MOH telegram report at 21:00. I see that the UK coronavirus page has a note saying when they update their data, looks very pro.Rachelye (talk) 08:27, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

MOH Telegram released a plot, corrected for the date the sample was collected (as opposed to date received). We need to correct our numbers. 77.124.65.9 (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2020 (UTC) Done, see figure. Segoldberg (talk) 14:20, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

People are still using worldometer, meanwhile worldometer has changed all their numbers, a 3.3% percent increase for April 6 makes little sense when worldometer lowered April 5 to 8,430 cases. The numbers here seriously need one consistent (unchanging) source. ZapafUg (talk) 04:55, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Here is the series starting 21/2/2020 and ending 30/3/2020, so you don't have to enter by hand. Cheers. Segoldberg (talk) 14:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC) 2 2 2 2 2 3 5 7 10 12 12 16 16 20 22 37 39 59 77 99 130 164 200 253 318 421 524 677 838 943 1207 1552 2000 2463 3011 3404 3824 4316 4782 minor error (16->15) corrected: 2 2 2 2 2 3 5 7 10 12 12 15 16 20 22 37 39 59 77 99 130 164 200 253 318 421 524 677 838 943 1207 1552 2000 2463 3011 3404 3824 4316 4782 Segoldberg (talk) 18:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Suggested Improvements, Additions

1. Population per area (or city) - on the table where cases per states are reported, please add columns with: population per area or major cities (tbd a meaningful way to split); confirmed cases per million people in each state.
2. Number of tests - per area and total.
3. Manage English and Hebrew versions in sync - shows more tables/data and Hebrew does not. Is it at all practical to maintain both? If maintaining both, should English be the origin for anything new and Hebrew be the translation? (English available to more ppl across the globe, when Hebrew is easier for many ppl in Israel. To consider.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arntgur (talk • contribs) 16:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
4. MoH also released a CSV with a list of geneder, age, and location of the patients that passed. Make a chart? Most recent public link as per

References

Thanks

Very informative, helpful article. Just a thanks to the editors/contributor, much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.126.83.239 (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

A comment on the "Court freeze" section

The Hebrew version of this page describes the "Court freeze" in more detail:

"בשל חוסר ההסכמה ומתוקף הצורך בנקיטת צעדים מהירים לטיפול במגפה, פעילות ממשלת המעבר כנגד התפשטות הנגיף החלה ללא פיקוח של הכנסת וללא כינוס ועדות. בתוך כך, כלפי חלק מההחלטות כגון הקפאת פעילות בתי המשפט, הייתה ביקורת מצד האופוזיציה כי המניע לכך הוא פוליטי, בשל פרסומן בשעת לילה מאוחרת, לאחר סגירת גליונות העיתונים ואי הצגתן בהודעה היומית לציבור של ראש הממשלה. ההוראה עליה חתם שר המשפטים אמיר אוחנה הייתה בת תוקף של 24 שעות וניתנה יומיים לפני פתיחת המשפט בעניינו של נתניהו.[285] ההוראה התקבלה באישור היועץ המשפטי לממשלה. החלטה קבועה בשיתוף הנהלת בתי המשפט צפויה להתקבל גם כן. ב-21 במרץ הוציאה נשיאת בית המשפט העליון אסתר חיות הודעה כי בתי המשפט פועלים במתכונת חירום והצעדים התקבלו גם על דעתה."

With the added detail the Hebrew page seems to tell a different story than the short English version:

Court freeze On 15 March, Justice Minister Amir Ohana expanded his powers and announced that non-urgent court activity would be frozen. As a result, the corruption trial of Prime Minister Netanyahu was postponed from 17 March to 24 May. The Movement for Quality Government in Israel urged the Attorney General to stay the new regulations.[32]

I guess the problem is lack of English sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.40.87 (talk) 11:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia. Feel free to edit with Hebrew sources.79.180.250.54 (talk) 19:52, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Script for statistics updating

• I've created python script on colab to calculate the statistics from the outbrake template data:

https://colab.research.google.com/drive/10Fm5n6_xaYUPhbLSth2i53poxcYrts5V You need to "File > Save a copy in Drive" if you want to make changes Netanelrevah (talk) 13:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC) Sorry the last one wasn't working now it should work Netanelrevah (talk) 13:47, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! Any quick way to change the numbers to the corrected ones published by MOH today? See file in talk section. Segoldberg (talk) 14:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Sure, I just have added a cell with an example. do you want to use the data on the picture? I can write a code the also created the graph data from the page start from data lists of deaths, recovered and cases

Here is the series: 2 2 2 2 2 3 5 7 10 12 12 16 16 20 22 37 39 59 77 99 130 164 200 253 318 421 524 677 838 943 1207 1552 2000 2463 3011 3404 3824 4316 4782 Segoldberg (talk) 18:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

minor error - 15 instead of 16. corrected series: 2 2 2 2 2 3 5 7 10 12 12 15 16 20 22 37 39 59 77 99 130 164 200 253 318 421 524 677 838 943 1207 1552 2000 2463 3011 3404 3824 4316 4782 Segoldberg (talk) 18:54, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok I updated the script by this list and updated the article by the script data. do we have validated series for the recovered data? Netanelrevah (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I have not seen changes in recovered data, I will look. (No expected changes in death reporting because the time of death should be well-documented, unlike new/recovered cases for which the time sample(s) is/are taken may differ from the time results are available.) Segoldberg (talk) 20:56, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

• I didn't see this python script, and anyway, this google sheets page seems simpler to execute: Plug in the total cases, deaths, and recoveries and it generates the table data.

Publicly Editable: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NvCzx5uSBTRU9yZ0VuxdVnIirYUp6VmB1CnKcr7kkrY/edit?usp=sharing KLdd15 (talk) 19:37, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

• The data on the page is different than what is published on the Telegram site. Does anyone know where the "real" numbers can be downloaded from?79.180.250.54 (talk) 19:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm unsure who's updating the numbers now, but notice that there's a difference between the number of positive results sampled during specific date and the number of positive results analized during a specific date. Our previous discussion concluded that the former should be used, whereas news websites and the daily MOF update report on the latter. Not sure what happens now, but at the time of the discussion the MOF published statistics by sampling date in retrospect in their Telegram site as Excel spreadsheets. 185.175.35.246 (talk) 06:10, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Gallery

Could someone reduce the size of the gallery images in the Social Distancing section to a normal size? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

I tried to improve the images in the gallery. Is now a bit better, but I admit failure making this into a respectable gallery.

By the way, the first two images are more or less about the same thing, and the last two are almost identical. I think the fourth image should simply be removed. Debresser (talk) 22:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Removed. Yoninah (talk) 13:55, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Wrong numbers or numbers without a source

I'm editing this article numbers according MOH telegram since start of the pandemic. I see now we have numbers without a source that the user Amitsz consists about them.

for example 13/4 cases. last MOH state was at 21:00 and the data was 11586 where the data of 11809 cases came from? what is the source? also for 12/4, last MOH state was at 21:00 and the data was 11154. why we should use 11223? what is the source of this number?

I'm not gonna enter battle here but stop make my edits i guess until understanding the correct source of the data.

Netanelrevah (talk) 11:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Got the source, thanks. Netanelrevah (talk) 11:53, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

East Jerusalem

Are the "EJ" cases reported at corona.ps included in the Israel figures? Selfstudier (talk) 11:12, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

compressing timeline in graphs?

would it be possible to compress the timeline in graphs? in a computer screen, the first appearance is that Covid-19 is mostly gone, the graph "ends" in late March. You need to manually slide it to current, and be scared :( .
Moreover, another option would the that the default view be of the most recent data. I have no idea how to achieve either. I guess any solution to that would be valuable for every chart, thus the template, but editing those is waaaay above my paygrade YamaPlos talk 14:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I found a workaround using the direction=rtl option, but do not know how to display the Y axis on both sides of the charts. Not sure if this is better.Segoldberg (talk) 16:28, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Uptick

I came to this article to confirm data I had seen that seemed that Israel had so far had one of the worst upticks [chart]. So I added that section, put it within the "Exit strategy" block, but I'm not too happy. Maybe this needs to be one level up? Would another editor that is more attuned with this article please re-arrange that? and "uptick", we say in conversation, don't know, there must e a more technical word? Thank you YamaPlos talk 14:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

pinging @Netanelrevah: as that editor seems to be our numbers person YamaPlos talk 14:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

@Debresser: If you have better information, or can correct, can you please correct and not just delete something that is important, and meaningful from an encyclopaedic point of view? The "uptick" in Israel is proportionally one of the worst in the world, though the way things are going in Texas right now, we might get that "honor" ourselves, sad. If you look at the tables provided in the reference that I included, you can find those numbers. Now, let's assume that I did the average wrong, that can be corrected! Just deleting the whole section because you don't like one number, that supposedly you know what "it is" the correct one, well, I don't get it. YamaPlos talk 19:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I deleted it also because the source didn't contain that information. Debresser (talk) 23:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I am starting a new section. Currently calling it "second period of restrictions" for lack of a better name. Feel free to edit.Segoldberg (talk) 15:43, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Segoldberg: Thank you, looks good. I am trying to figure out the right phrasing to indicate that by May, Covid-19 seemed to be under control in Israel, but then it jumped to worse than it had ever been before in March/April. YamaPlos talk 20:58, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

In Israel this is not called an "uptick" rather a "second wave", which in view of its seriousness seems like the more appropriate term. Debresser (talk) 21:08, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

leading in active cases per population

COVID-19 Active Cases per 100 000 population

I added Israel to the graph of most affected countries since it is leading with the most active cases per population within the world now. --Traut (talk) 10:13, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Data error?

The number of dead people at date 27.10.20 is -0.04. How can that number be negative? Has anyone resurrected or just a data error? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ויקיטכני (talk • contribs) 18:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Active cases is same as confirmed cases

The script got messed up. Active cases should be confirmed cases minus recovered. ויקיטכני (talk) 18:17, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Vaccines

Hi, I'm opening a new section discussing how Israel is obtaining and distributing COVID-19 vaccines. Segoldberg (talk) 08:34, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Vaccine per day graph - shouldn't the y axis say 'Daily vaccines' not 'Daily tests'?

Shouldn't it say 'Daily vaccines' on the y axis not 'Daily tests'?