Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Çelebicihan
Çelebicihan
Çelebicihan (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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20 March 2021
– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.
Suspected sockpuppets
- 4elopuck (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tools: Editor interaction utility • Interaction Timeline • User compare report Auto-generated every hour.
Recreation of Svitlana Bevza at Bevza Svitlana. We haven't seen this sockpuppeteer in a while, and this account suggests the tactics, techniques and procedures have changed. MER-C 15:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.
- Dear @Blablubbs, what do you mean by putting me here in that list? I read the section Defending yourself against claims and feel good as I didn't violate any of the wikipedia rules. But I'm pretty much confused of your statement "The following accounts are on the same connection". Can you please explain what is "the same connection"? To make things clear I state that I don't know any of the mentioned accounts. However, I do see that some of them have edited English wikipedia articles about politicians related to Ukraine. Is that the case or something else? I ask you and anyone else to remove any suspicions from me. And if possible to explain what do I violate. If it can help, I live in Ukraine and edit from here. @TonyBallioni - thank you for suggesting a deep look. It all looks strange.
P.S. in order to facilitate the process of discussion I ping here the accounts and ask them to explain what they could do wrong. @Breaking Sir, @Braduman, @Tarabono00, @Inkitrinky, @Inger Berg18, @Pestrolim, @Pysatel, @Olga Malozhvanets, @Nameitgood --Щіпальця (talk) 09:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for explaining @Blablubbs. So, that is a question for me too, why @TonyBallioni put me on a list. If same connection means same IP - why TonyBallioni didn't state that clearly? Talking about IP, I'm sure enough it is a mistake as I use it from my mobile phone (and it provides a dynamic IP). My brothers and sisters don't edit or create wikipedia profiles. Maybe my IP range is in a blacklist or something? Can I ask someone else to investigate the results of the CU too? --Щіпальця (talk) 13:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Blablubbs, your last sentence made me frustrated. You pointed below: I do note that all of the accounts listed certainly do have an interesting familiarity with Wikipedia for new users, and an interesting fascination with promoting things across multiple wikis for users who have no relationship to one another. I didn't get your point at all. It seems like you want to accuse my behaviour or myself of violationg some wikipedia rules :( Let's wait the checkuser who could explain what he/she meant by "the same connection". --Щіпальця (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- thank you for explaining @Blablubbs. So, that is a question for me too, why @TonyBallioni put me on a list. If same connection means same IP - why TonyBallioni didn't state that clearly? Talking about IP, I'm sure enough it is a mistake as I use it from my mobile phone (and it provides a dynamic IP). My brothers and sisters don't edit or create wikipedia profiles. Maybe my IP range is in a blacklist or something? Can I ask someone else to investigate the results of the CU too? --Щіпальця (talk) 13:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Primefac, @Drmies can you please look through this situation as I feel falsely accused to use the same IP? --Щіпальця (talk) 13:38, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Щіпальця, "All of the following accounts are on the same connection "--that connection is the IP, or maybe a narrow IP range. I'm not sure what you want me to look at. This is the technical evidence, and so I doubt you're being falsely accused of anything; whether you are or are not related in terms of editing (that is, socking) is another matter. I see only one overlapping edit (this one) so I don't see much behavioral evidence that would prove you're a sock. Drmies (talk) 16:12, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi! I have seen the notification mentioned here. Can anybody explain what happened? I am a new user and don't know all the wiki rules. --Pysatel (talk) 14:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments
- Global lock(s) requested. Blablubbs|talk 15:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- All of the following accounts are on the same connection and share the same type of device as 4elopuck (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki):
- Breaking Sir (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Braduman (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Tarabono00 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Inkitrinky (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- The following accounts are on the same connection but have some variation of user agents from the above group and one another:
- Щіпальця (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Inger Berg18 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Pestrolim (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Pysatel (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Olga Malozhvanets (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Nameitgood (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Please examine cross-wiki behaviour before blocking. I'm not confident enough to block any of these accounts with doing a deep dive through other projects, and I don't have the time for that right now, so reporting and letting clerks and patrolling admins look at it. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:38, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Щіпальця, I've moved your comment to the correct section. I did not put you on any list; I requested global locks for a sock that was already blocked. The CU results come from TonyBallioni. What he likely means there is that you're all on the same IP address; could you explain why that might be? Blablubbs|talk 12:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Щіпальця, I have moved your comment again. Please put new ones in the "comments by other users" section. I do note that all of the accounts listed certainly do have an interesting familiarity with Wikipedia for new users, and an interesting fascination with promoting things across multiple wikis for users who have no relationship to one another. Blablubbs|talk 13:41, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see any behavioral evidence for Щіпальця socking. Inger Berg18 is a bit odd: all those useless spaces, that's often someone who tries to get autoconfirmed, but it wasn't enough edits and they stopped, so I don't know what to make of it. Mind you, I have not looked at the CU evidence and see no reason to. I don't know what the IP/IP range is; it might well be a location that explains similar interests. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Drmies, they are inserting the same promotional material about the same person into wikis in 3 languages uk, ru, en while demonstrating pretty good proficiency with Wikimarkup for someone who registered two weeks ago – given that this a UPE sockmaster and the other accounts demonstrate similar patterns, and also for politions (e.g. nameitgood on ru, pl, en or Pestrolim attempting to create a page about the same person on eo, cy and be , I'm a tad bit suspicious here. Blablubbs|talk 16:34, 23 March 2021 (UTC)