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Draft:Rt Rana

Hello Dear Liz , I expanded it a bit and made it more respectable. What do you think about it ? I think it's quite close to wikipedia level. and he is from srilanka and he is doing srilanka and India government official notable program and can you help with expand this article .Rajuiu (talk) 12:57, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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A kitten for you!

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File:Winterbild.jpg

Hello, can you check the deleted edits from the user who uploaded the file? I would like to know where the pictured location is. (I want to move the file to Commons, but I need the context for that). --TheImaCow (talk) 08:38, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TheImaCow,
I don't think their deleted edits would be helpful. One was a duplicate image of the one you are concerned with and the second was the image of a boat that was deleted because it had no licensing information. The only additional content on that second image was a URL that now is a dead link. Sorry it didn't have any more useful information. Liz Read! Talk! 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well then. I moved the image to Commons and put it in the category "Basel", because the user has edited something in the Basel article, and because you can see a Swiss flag on the image, that's better than nothing. Thanks for the help anyway! --TheImaCow (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Windmills completed in 1975

I've contested the speedy deletion of this category, which was emptied by another editor. Discussion is currently taking place at talk:Weald and Downland Living Museum#Cats and navbox. Mjroots (talk) 20:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Mjroots,
Categories sometime get "emptied out of process". This is why empty categories sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion after being tagged CSD C1, so that any improper emptying can be looked into and perhaps reversed. As soon as the category is no longer empty, the tag will be removed. Liz Read! Talk! 20:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, right, so we've got time then. I notified all relevant WPs of the discussion. I'm sure we can reach an acceptable conclusion here. Mjroots (talk) 20:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

75.108.148.104

Can user:75.108.148.104 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 01:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Liz Read! Talk! 01:07, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Coyote ‎

Can Coyote ‎ please be protected ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 01:10, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. I've blocked a couple IP addresses but this user from Oxford is jumping around IP addresses. Liz Read! Talk! 01:33, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

173.70.243.56

Can user:173.70.243.56 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 01:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 01:44, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CATEGORY:X9

Hello, you just hung {{d|c1}} on the page I created. What you don't know, however, is that a user broke the page I created before. As a result, the classification happened to conform to CSD C1. Please don't make this mistake again, thank you!--Alcremie (talk) 04:30, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Alcremie,
Except for a few exceptions, empty categories are deleted on Wikipedia if they are still empty after 7 days. If the category is no longer empty, the tag will be removed. Liz Read! Talk! 04:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Male, a nerd

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starship.paint (exalt) 15:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RevDel request

Hi Liz, will you please revdel this. S0091 (talk) 20:54, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thank you for your quick action, S0091. I also appreciate you going through stale drafts so thoroughly and transferring drafts in good shape to the main space of the project. Liz Read! Talk! 20:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Liz! I am pleasantly surprised there is as much salvageable there given all the cruft we see. Thanks for you do around here as well. S0091 (talk) 21:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all your relentless dedication to G-13 related deletions. You are definitely a tireless alien. Haha Celestina007 (talk) 23:25, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Celestina007. Having editors tag them first sure saves me a lot of time so thank you, and a few other editors, for all your work.
I think I'll move on sometime soon to a different activity. As far as editing tasks go, it's a bit tedious...I see a lot of blank pages and it's great to know that AFC is approving so many good drafts. Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It’s always an honor to work with you Liz. Celestina007 (talk) 23:43, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

2pou (talk) 22:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Joe Roche article

You deleted the Joe Roche article last month. Next time you prod to delete a page, you should have the common courtesy to leave a comment on the user page of the person who created it. That's pretty common Wikipedia etiquette. The page was on wikipedia for 15 years and questioning the sources by simply stating you don't think a major regional newspaper is a satisfactory source is not academic or the way that a deletion discussion is usually done. David Straub (talk) 10:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, David Straub,
Notifying the page creator of a page that is tagged for deletion is the responsibility of the editor who tagged the page who, in this case, was Eddie891. The page tagger is the editor who provides the justification for deletion. I'm sorry you weren't notified.
Since it was deleted as a PROD, any administrator can restore the page if that is what you want. Liz Read! Talk! 20:19, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
in this case, twinkle notified the wrong person, though it is not required to notify the creator I would have if I realized the error. Why that happened, I could not tell you. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Granni has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Granni. Thanks! Robert McClenon (talk) 03:58, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Saifai

Liz - I'm unclear as to why you deleted Talk:Saifai "G8: Talk page of a nonexistent or deleted page" as we still have a page Saifai - not sure what, if anything, was on it when you deleted it? - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 18:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for catching this, Arjayay. An editor changed the redirect target of Statue of Krishna and it showed up on the Broken Redirect list as broken. I deleted it and and when I went to delete the talk page, Talk:Statue of Krishna, it was a correct redirect to Talk:Saifai and I didn't notice that I was now on a different page. So, I made two mistakes and I'm glad you brought it to my attention. Everything is restored now and Statue of Krishna now points to the correct redirect, Saifai. Changing redirect targets is an infrequent form of vandalism but it does happen. Thanks again for telling me so I could make the correct changes. Liz Read! Talk! 18:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RevDel request

Hello admin, sorry to bother you but can you please remove the edit summaries of this and this edit? Thank you. --Ashleyyoursmile! 18:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for catching these...let me know if the editor persists. Liz Read! Talk! 18:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, I'm keeping an eye on their edits. Ashleyyoursmile! 18:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

5-month AFC notifications

I can't for the life of my find the thread from a few weeks ago where we discussed this, but it looks like User:Bot0612 is back to notifying users when their draft is 5 months old. Thought you might like to know! Primefac (talk) 13:18, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah! Thanks for letting me know, Primefac. The discussion over the past months actually happened in a couple different places but the one where I know you weighed in was here on AFC, back in October. Glad it finally came together...I should have gone straight to Bot Requests! Liz Read! Talk! 16:06, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted draft

You recently deleted Draft:National Consumer Law Center. Could you please email me the text of the deleted draft and its edit history? I created the draft as part of a legal internship with the National Consumer Law Center, and its been years since the person I've been working with last contacted me. I fully understand there is no point in keeping the draft on Wikipedia, but I'd like a copy for my personal records. (My personal email is already linked to this account). Spirit of Eagle (NCLC) (talk) 18:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Spirit of Eagle (NCLC),
This draft was deleted as a CSD G13 which is a stale draft that hasn't been edited in six months. These deletions can be restored upon request. So, I have restored Draft:National Consumer Law Center and you can copy the information or continue to work on it. Liz Read! Talk! 22:09, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot. I've saved everything that I wanted to save. Spirit of Eagle (NCLC) (talk) 20:14, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:37.48.49.94

Hi Liz Apologies but I see you were active blocking someone recently, could you please take a look at the above (use google translate on their reply to my level 1 warning). Thanks JW 1961 Talk 21:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Joseywales1961,
Thanks for the head's up, especially regarding the translation. I've given the editor a short block from editing. Liz Read! Talk! 22:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and good night from Ireland (calling it a day!) JW 1961 Talk 22:08, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User talk deletion

Hi Liz, when I created the user talk archive you just speedily deleted here it was in response to a request to delete following a renaming. I could see the motivation for deletion, but I didn't want to delete the record of discussion because "User talk pages and user talk archives created by page move are generally not deleted; they are usually needed for reference by other users" (WP:DELTALK). Creating the archive with the old name replaced by the new one was a workaround that addressed both these issues, but you undid that without discussing it with me. I don't see a good reason to remove the talk archive, so could you explain? Fences&Windows 20:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fences and windows,
I just saw that Oman160 requested that his page be deleted. Every day, I remove CSD tags from user talk pages that have been tagged for deletion with the explanation that we don't delete user talk pages but I guess I messed this one up. I'll restore it. My apologies. Liz Read! Talk! 20:51, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Liz, I thought I might be missing something about the process but I see it was a slip. Oman160, please leave be that record of prior discussions. Fences&Windows 20:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

67.71.191.100

Can user:67.71.191.100 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism. CLCStudent (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 03:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

My apologies, looks like I had reverted the wrong version. Thank you for reverting the edit, blocking the user, and protecting the article. --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:18, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Ashleyyoursmile, I thought it was incidental vandalism but it looks like it's persistent sockpuppet accounts. Liz Read! Talk! 16:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, they are a sock of Szczepan76 who has been globally locked [1]. Thank you very much for protecting the article. Ashleyyoursmile! 16:43, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Caste categories

Hi Liz, I've just removed the speedy deletion tag you placed on Category:Other Backward Classes of Karnataka. That category, like several analogous ones, is often emptied by those who have a caste-system-related POV to push; but the fact that they are empty at any given time is a poor indicator of their necessity. There are several caste-based categories used by the Indian Union government or the various state governments, and unless and until that changes, such categorization is going to be valid and useful. If an empty category is a maintenance issue, a post to WT:INB will usually help fix it. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 18:02, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Vanamonde,
Thanks for letting me know about this situation. Cases like this are one big reasons why empty categories sit for a week to make sure they haven't been emptied "out of process". Unfortunately, there is no edit history about what articles were in categories that were removed so unless one is familiar with the subject, it can be hard to backtrack to reverse category changes. If this happens again with a caste category, I will go to WT:INB and post a notice there. Liz Read! Talk! 18:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I appreciate that it's hard to track, and very few people bother with tracking categories anyway. I'm only likely to see such a problem at all if I see a deletion notice somewhere. With respect to empty caste categories, it's often useful to check who the creator was; if it's an experienced editor, odds are it has been emptied inappropriately. Best, Vanamonde (Talk) 19:05, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Atlanticetus

Did you look at the history before you deleted this article? I can't see that there was any need to delete it after I spent some time checking and improving it. The content is supported by good, albeit primary, sources. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Peter coxhead,
The issue with Atlanticetus was not your contribution to the article but the fact that the page was created by a sockpuppet of a blocked editor and the policy is to delete these pages. I have restored it for you but another admin might see fit to delete it again. Liz Read! Talk! 20:30, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for restoring it. I'd just point out that if it is deleted, then so should Template:Taxonomy/Atlanticetus be, since I only created it to fix the taxobox error in the article. (I monitor the taxobox error-checking categories most days.) I also created redirects to the article, which should also be deleted. It's all very well having a blanket policy of deleting articles created by banned users, but if they have been integrated into Wikipedia (and Wikidata), then this integration should be cleaned up. It's like moving an article; movers are requested to clean up afterwards. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:47, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jack P.

I see you deleted Draft:Jack Palmer (Mathematician) as a blatant hoax. You might want to read User talk:Davidwr/Archives/Archive 47#New page, opened back on the 15th, about the same topic. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:53, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, davidwr,
It wasn't just Draft:Jack Palmer (Mathematician) page, it was other Jack Palmer pages, moving disambiguation pages around, a lot of disruption. And according to this draft, this 22 year old mathematician had all of these marvelous accomplishments ("genius cryptographer") without any citations backing up anything. If it's not a hoax, then it was awfully promotional with no supporting references. There was also some strange editing going on with both User:MarcusLowryLol and Alexhair93 working on these articles and drafts. All put together, it was not a typical "I want to write a draft article" situation although I think you offered the user some good advice. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Even with WP:AGF dialed up to eleven, this sounds like a combo of "too soon, if ever" and "fan-boys/WP:COI", which translates as "WP:NOTWEBHOST/WP:NOTPROMO, other web hosting services exist that may meet your needs, good luck to you". davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:13, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thankyou for your understanding and support. It’s an honor to work with you Liz. Kirsaan.jatt (talk) 06:30, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

beetle redirects

Hi. Thanks for letting me know the chain of things here, most of this makes sense in light of the bot flagging. All but one of the IP edits were aligned with the present world catalogue just released in 2020, the problem is that the article on Megacephala is based on an outdated 2011 resource (outdated even in 2011, as the genus-rank changes took place in 2007), so only a few of the redirects pointed to articles that were under the correct genus name, Tetracha, which I'd begun to iron out recently. You'll note that six species actually had TWO articles in WP until recently, because one author established the Megacephala article and a different author later established the Tetracha article without realizing that the six Tetracha species they created articles for already had articles under the old genus name. I've just cleared up the confusion by creating/moving articles to the "target" titles, so the redirects now all point where they need to. The one exception is one that didn't need to be a redirect, as the article in the old genus had the wrong species name, and needed to be renamed anyway. Thanks, Dyanega (talk) 23:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request for undeletion of Draft:Janine Beichman

Hi, I'd like to request the undeletion of Draft:Janine Beichman. I've been a bit occupied, between the week-long block by an admin helping out a bunch of POV pushers and the open-heart surgery that went sideways on the table. When I get out of the hospital, I'll probably have time to work on it, as she seems to be a scholar worth an article.

--Calton | Talk 00:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Happy to restore a draft. Liz Read! Talk! 00:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recently WP:PROD U-15 Football Teams

Hi Liz, is there any way to restore both Haiti national under-15 football team and Puerto Rico national under-15 football team? I was late to remove these proposals. The argument was based on the discussion here which is still ongoing and did not mention these teams in the discussion by name, though it seems like a mass deletion campaign for the U-15 Football Teams in general. I had voiced my concern to keep, in this discussion where the decision is currently at odds; a split.

Now, I could very well recreate these pages because I do argue that they do indeed satisfy WP:GNG, but I do not think it is fair to the other contributors and the history of these pages would be lost as well. These expirations are not far removed and I was a bit preoccupied today and wasn't able to formally address these concerns and remove these days.

I urge you if possible, to restore these 2 articles and I will be sure to source these independent sources myself.

Thank you kindly Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Savvyjack23,
Proposed deletions (PRODs) are considered uncontroversial deletions so if they are contested, the tag is removed and they are restored. Other forms of deletion, like AFD deletion discussions, are more difficult but PRODs are easy to respond to. However, the editor who nominated them for proposed deletion might take them to AFD where you will have to provide some justification or improve them to meet article expectations. As of now, however, they are restored. Liz Read! Talk! 01:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Understood and thank you!! Savvyjack23 (talk) 05:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz, sorry to bother again. Is it possible to recover the talk pages for these two articles as well? I can't remember if there was any content on them. Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:29, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
D'uh! Do not feel like you are bothering me, Savvyjack23, for some reason, I sometimes forget to restore the talk page as well. Sorry you had to come back! Liz Read! Talk! 02:32, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, no worries that's like me all the time and thanks again! -By the way, you have some really neat userboxes; you are reinspiring my fascination! I love the Old-fashioned Wikipedian values one in particular Thumbs up icon Have an awesome weekend! Savvyjack23 (talk) 02:44, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mistaken identity

This is not my article, User:Hdjukic/sandbox, maybe you should take the time to check first before posting comments on my talk page. Not appreciated. Dan arndt (talk) 10:30, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dan arndt, Twinkle sends a talk page notice to the first editor of a page which you were in this case. I don't know why you don't remember. We are not going to change Twinkle to stop sending out page creator notices because these notices are appropriate. But I promise to never send you a talk page notice, for any reason, since that seems to be what you are requesting. I'm bewildered why you are offended by a talk page notice but since you are so bothered, I will omit ever posting one ever again to your talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 02:51, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I think he got caught up in "Twinkle treats a page mover as a page creator." Personally, I think Twinkle should be sensitive to pages that started life as redirects and also alert the editor of the first post-redirect-edit, but I don't see this as an urgent feature request. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 03:15, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation, davidwr. Liz Read! Talk! 03:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

63.234.150.121

Can user:63.234.150.121 please be blocked ASAP for vandalism; see their filter too. They just came off a 31-hour block. CLCStudent (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done

PizzaHutWadsworth

Can user:PizzaHutWadsworth please be blocked ASAP for vandalism? CLCStudent (talk) 18:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 18:27, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please review the draft

Hi, please review the draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Shabri_Prasad_Singh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabri1112 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re the American Idiot

Question though, I kind of waited for deletion to recreate, although I respect your choice to restore. Admittedly, most of the edits are sockpuppet edits, so I wasn't really sure to just simply remove the g13 tag. Starzoner (talk) 00:12, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Starzoner, I think your interest in being the first edit or page creator is misguided and will get you into trouble here. It doesn't matter who creates the article, please just focus on improving the existing articles. Don't wait to improve articles until after they have been deleted or keep score or who gets credit.
As for this particular article, it was not deleted because of sockpuppet activity but simply was a G13 and stale drafts are restored upon request or if contested. Recreating the article the same day it was deleted is a form of contesting the deletion of this draft on this subject.
In a positive sense, there is now a lot of existing content in the edit history that you can make use of that was not accessible until it was restored. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Alright thank you. I'll just focus more on content instead of seeing my name as the first edit. I think I'm getting ahead of myself now. I apologize. Starzoner (talk) 00:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question on what to do

First, thanks in the prior thread for telling me to not worry about being first as creator. I have a question now regarding another user who is bent on getting "first". Basically, regarding Draft:Untitled Pet Sematary prequel, the other user created it first by a few minutes, but I created my own draft (not knowing his earlier draft). He insisted on merging and copying over content (including a copy paste of my work to his draft) that his is better. I admittedly want to keep my own draft to work on, as I don't wnat to just simply throw away the revisions. Instead, he is threatening to report me to WP:AN, again. What should be done in this situation? Starzoner (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As always, you only count the things that are convenient for you. For example, I have no problem sending to delete a draft because another user already created it before me. This can be see in Draft:Untitled Beavis & Butt-Head film that I request delete without any problem and then add that information in your draft. You're the one with drafts like this one you created, even though there is already Draft: Untitled Bong Joon-ho film that is much better written and referenced. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 13:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about categories and redirects

Hi Liz, I was hoping you might have time to answer a question I had about categories and redirects.

The redirect I was looking at is Bāti Dēlōmbira Mahfuz. Is this a case where WP:INCOMPATIBLE applies and the article cats are appropriate? or should they be replaced with maintenance cats for redirects? possibly both?

I noticed you had nominated a couple of cats Heesxiisoleh had created re: Somalia, for deletion which is what led me to you for this question. On a side note, I was wondering if you had any previous concerns about notability, sourcing, and the biographies this user is creating.

Hope this finds you well, best wishes from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  09:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Timothy,
Sorry for my tardy response, I seem to have missed your talk page message when it was posted.
I don't create many redirects, although I correct many broken redirects, so I'm no expert on categorizing them. Most redirects are not categorized at all and those that I have dealt with that are categorized typically have 1-3 categories at most. Bāti Dēlōmbira Mahfuz has a large number, six, but it was created by Aciram who has over 80,000 edits so I would just let this one go as being an exception to the common practice.
I have at times removed categories from redirect pages when the category was empty except for a redirect...I don't think having one redirect in an otherwise empty category justifies the category existing, I think there should be at least one article for each category although I know that there are editors who would disagree with my stance. But removing categories from redirects hasn't happened very often because, as I said, most redirects are not categorized at all. I would like to say that editors are following Wikipedia guidelines for categorizing redirects but I think it mostly comes down to the preferences of the redirect creator rather than some hard-and-fast rule. Some categorize the redirects they create but most don't bother with them.
As for Heesxiisoleh, the categories I tagged were CSD C1, empty categories, an activity I do almost daily. Many newer editors create categories before they are needed so empty categories pop up daily, we have a daily report on them at Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories. I haven't looked at their other edits but now I'll take a look and see if anything is obviously amiss. But creating empty categories is not a concern in itself unless the editor doesn't read their CSD notices and continues to create them.
I hope all is well in LA. Send us in the NW U.S. some of your sunshine! By March, I'm pretty tired of the rain. Liz Read! Talk! 00:22, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Bernadette Mabel Manjaji-Matsumoto

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Bernadette Mabel Manjaji-Matsumoto requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:24, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I just created this category because it was on the Wanted categories list. Whatever will be, will be. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Osvaldo Takeshi Oyakawa

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Osvaldo Takeshi Oyakawa requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:31, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two for two! Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Taxa named by Edson H.L. Pereira

A tag has been placed on Category:Taxa named by Edson H.L. Pereira requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What, UnitedStatesian, are all of these Wanted categories bad? Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, all bad. In the cases where the discoverer does not have a Wikipedia article, there should not be a "Taxa named by . . ." category. See the comment on the talkpage of the mass editor, at User talk:Phil Fish#Category pages. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:38, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, UnitedStatesian. There are literally dozens of these "Taxa named by" categories on the Wanted categories list, it's the biggest group of red link categories. I guess some have been tagging pages with too many red links. Liz Read! Talk! 23:45, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully slightly fewer on the list than when I started working through them; will be reflected on the next re-run. UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:48, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I never paid much attention to these pages until this week. They, along with Unused categories, seem to be run every three days. Liz Read! Talk! 23:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

I only have one comment: The reason there is no species in the Edson H. L. Pereira page is because someone removed them from the species page.Phil Fish (talk) 21:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks

please see my comment on my talk page. Starzoner (talk) 20:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New message from 1234qwer1234qwer4

Hello, Liz. You have new messages at User talk:Fastily/Archive 7.
Message added 10:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 10:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please react whether you are like fixing your error? I can put the deleted redirects on a separate page for you; Twinkle has a mass-restoring feature iirc. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 12:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
1234qwer1234qwer4 asked for help off-wiki, so I restored these redirects. This is resolved now. — The Earwig (talk) 01:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰, that I didn't notice that you added on to this old message. I just look at the bottom of the page when I get a talk page notice and I missed your request. My oversight. Thank you, The Earwig for coming to his aid. Liz Read! Talk! 19:52, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: David August (March 5)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:
Please clarify what the name of the subject is. It appears that he should be referred to as Nattkemper. User:Liz - Should this draft be tagged as COI, or not?
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Robert McClenon (talk) 02:21, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, Liz! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 02:21, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Blocking vandals! AntoineHound (talk) 01:58, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your vigilance, AntoineHound. Liz Read! Talk! 02:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Empty category notifications

Hi Liz, could you please add me to your list of those who you won't notify regarding speedy deletion of empty categories. Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to add you to the list, Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars. Liz Read! Talk! 01:52, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I need your intervention

Hello Liz, sorry for coming here but I would like to ask you to delete the first four editions that appear here because it seems unfair to me that he claim authorship of something that he didn't really do (I did not create the draft but it is still unfair to the user who created it ). I went here directly because you already know well the behavior of the user in question. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 01:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sympathetic to your plight, Bruno Rene Vargas, I think this gaming of the system to have "the first edit" is frankly the most ridiculous behavior I have come across in my 7 years on Wikipedia. But I can't justify deleting someone's edit's to make a point.
However, you see more of these sketchy page moves, where a valid draft is blanked and a newer version moved to take its place, please let me know. More of this childish gamesmanship could result in a block. Liz Read! Talk! 01:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have been looking at this list and as you will see there are many drafts created from empty articles. In a quick search I have found again two cases similar to the one I reported previously:
I want to take advantage and also show that there are cases like this or this where there is clearly no interest in creating drafts to continue working on them later. Like these examples, there are hundreds of drafts in these conditions.
And as if all this were not enough here you can see that he has a long list of empty articles that he later uses to make movements like this.
I have already reported all this on three occasions but there was no sanction except for certain deletions. That is also why I no longer want to go back to report it because they will say that I am harassing him. I hope the links that I provide here will serve you and you find the fairest way to solve all this. Greetings. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 04:00, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vulpes vulpes amicus

Hello Liz, no such subspecies exists. I have just removed mention of it from the Red fox article, which appears to be where the problem originated according to the creating editor (and possibly where you saw it). Either it has come from some un-WP:RELIABLE website in the past, or someone is having a joke at Wikipedia's expense. Even the Silver fox (animal) article itself is not a subspecies, and certainly not the domesticated form. Thus, I have tagged it as a hoax. William Harris (talk) 07:33, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the explanation, William Harris. When I saw the term in the Red fox article, I thought that the page had been mistakenly tagged. I appreciate your vigilance. Liz Read! Talk! 01:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Liz, I have had a chat with the originator, who created the redirect in good faith because of the classification appearing on the Red fox article. No doubt some other editor found it on an un-WP:RELIABLE website and thought that they were helping by placing it there long ago. A discussion at User talk:Lithopsian#Vulpes vulpes amicus has me now sorted out on a the appropriate procedural matters. Regards, William Harris (talk) 04:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some delicious stroopwafels for you!

I <3 you Temperance Cook (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yum! Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Me again...

Excuse me Liz for coming here again but following your advice I come to inform you of this, where clearly the user after seeing that I create this draft again does the same thing that he had been doing previously. I was recently denied permission to page-mover, which is not bad, but it seems unfair that a user like Starzoner does have it, misuses the permission and the worst thing is that nobody says anything to him. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 18:33, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bruno Rene Vargas,
It looks like his action was prompted by this message on his talk page rather than your edit. He got a bot notice saying that his draft was going to be deleted so he expanded it. But I'll post a note on his talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 19:09, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:MC30 Yanos (disambiguation)

I don't think that MC30 Yanos (disambiguation) was an edit error as such. I have no idea what the originator was or is trying to do. It definitely didn't belong in article space, and neither did its sibling, so I moved them both to draft space as being quicker than CSD tagging them. I wasn't sure what to tag either of them as. I don't really care what argument was found to delete them. G6 was fine, because G6 is basically stuff that needs deleting for no other obvious reason. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:14, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Traci Callahan

Hi Liz, I thought any edit by a human would prevent a draft from G13 but perhaps I misunderstood. I added a source to this one (I think) but I see you just deleted it. Sometimes if I am on the fence tagging it as "promising", I may make a dummy edit with an edit summary or add a source if I find one, etc. Am I wrong? Thanks! S0091 (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, S0091, you are not wrong! For days last month, I double-checked dozens and dozens drafts tagged as CSD G13s and found that our regular crew of stale draft taggers were not making any mistakes. So, I stopped checking them all.
This draft shouldn't have been tagged for deletion. Some of our stale draft taggers like yourself work with Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions and some work off the SDZeroBot list. The advantage of the SDZeroBot list is that it is more comprehensive than the AFC G13 category, the disadvantage is that the current day's list is from a week ago and so you have to check each and every draft to make sure that there have been no edits in the past week. I assume the page tagger didn't check the edit history for this page and took it from the list. This doesn't happen often but it can happen so I'm glad you brought it to my attention. I'm happy to restore it. Liz Read! Talk! 21:22, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I understand Liz believe me. As you know, I had tagged some a bit early and now am trying to be super mindful of the time stamps but I am sure I will make that mistake again at some point. I tend to get lost a bit going back and forth trying to determine if something is promising. I also may work ahead in the list as the research can take some time and I have had drafts be deleted while I am doing research. Poof! Anyway, I do know you are careful which is why I questioned myself about the "rules". Thanks again. S0091 (talk) 21:32, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, S0091, I appreciate you taking the time to evaluate them and tag the promising ones. Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I will never be a content writer because I loathe writing lol, but noted other editor's concerns about G13 so thought I could do "something". I am not sure if anyone here actually does anything with the drafts in the promising draft category though, so it could all be futile. Time will tell, I suppose. S0091 (talk) 21:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Boris Berenfeld has been restored, weirdly

Instead of going for a refund request the text of the draft has been copied and pasted from https://en.everybodywiki.com/Boris_Berenfeld where an inspection of its history there appears to show that it has been scraped from us, and badly, complete with a pseudo-history as if on WP.

Since this is a pond where you have significantly greater experience than I do, do you favour:

  1. Ignoring it and treating it as a new draft?
  2. Refunding the G13 version and overwriting the "new" version?
  3. Refunding the G13 version and performing a history merge?
  4. some other action

CommanderWaterford spotted the new location, and doubtless the editor who pasted it here, a new editor, Hzyaz will be interested in the outcome since they copied and pasted it here, albeit not in an acceptable form. This was a G13 actioned by you, hence my message. Fiddle Faddle 08:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Timtrent
I'm not sure of the "right" answer here but what I decided to do was restore the previous 51 edits of this page which I think is the same result as a history merge since the previous edits were all from early 2020. I couldn't replace the new version with the old under the page title since the system treats the old edits as deleted edits for the same page. So the entire edit history of both versions is there but you only see the current version. It's possible now to revert to an earlier version of the page, I'm not sure whether that is what you or Hzyaz would prefer to do. Liz Read! Talk! 20:10, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have no preference for action, so I will leave the status quo as it is. Thank you for scratching your head over this one Fiddle Faddle 20:14, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider restoring the page "Netbackup". Thank you.

Hi. I was involved in some edits on the "Netbackup" page some time ago and see that you've deleted the whole page. You've given "G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page" as the reason but I'm sure the page was there and the cached one on Google shows a complete page with lots of links. I think someone incorrectly tagged it as being "promotional material" but that is not correct at all. I didn't see them do that, otherwise I would have contested it. Please could you consider restoring the page "Netbackup"? Thanks. Gareth.randall (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Gareth
Newbackup was simply a broken redirect to NetBackup, an article that was deleted by admin Iridescent for CSD G11 "unambiguous advertising or promotion" reasons. It was tagged by editor Mottezen. I don't restore pages that have been deleted by another admin in a judgment call so you'd have to ask Iridescent about this. Perhaps it is possible that there is an earlier version of the article that isn't as promotional but for a 15 year old article with 272 edits, it would be hard to go into the deleted edit history and find it. Or perhaps Iridescent would restore it to your user space, you'd have to ask. Liz Read! Talk! 20:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the history of NetBackup, although there are 272 revisions very few are significant changes. Reviewing the changes, it's been pure spam (essentially just an expanded list of product features) since its original expansion back in 2005; prior to that it was an unsourced substub that read in full Veritas Netbackup (currently versions 6.x) is an enterprise level backup and recovery suite. It provides backup functionality to Windows, Linux, and Unix environments. NetBackup has the capability of communicating with various robotic libraries and tapes drives. It's probably a legitimate topic, but I can't see anything really salvageable in any version of this article—if you genuinely think you can make it neutral I'm willing to restore it but to be honest you're probably better off rewriting from scratch, as the standards of Wikipedia 15 years ago are very different from the standards of Wikipedia now. ‑ Iridescent 22:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel Request

Hi Liz, WP:REVDELREQUEST for [2] , IP added unsourced BLPCRIME stuff. Thank yoouuu.... CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thanks for catching that. Liz Read! Talk! 20:55, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion restore

Is it okay to restore the page Draft:Christopher Saul, which you deleted back at Christmas. I feel it can be worked on further.2A00:23C6:D884:6401:7D9A:6C56:5A21:4CA9 (talk) 11:30, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 21:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion

Hi Liz, I'm not sure I follow your reasoning for declining the CSD on the (now deleted) Deri Lorus draft. The page has repeatedly been recreated by sockpuppets [3], surely it qualifies for G5? -KH-1 (talk) 00:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, KH-1,
My reasoning is this: User:Prodflat created this page yesterday morning and yesterday night you tagged it as the work of a sockpuppet. But Prodflat was not blocked as a sockpuppet until about half an hour ago today. I declined the speedy 5-6 hours ago because Prodflat was not confirmed as a sockpuppet at the time I looked at the article.
A different admin might have accepted your suspicion that the editor was a sockpuppet but I need confirmation from a checkuser or SPI clerk before I delete an article based on a claim of CSD G5. If you look at my admin log you'll see that I deleted 24 pages today based on CSD G5 claims, so I'm not adverse to that speedy deletion criteria. It turns out that your suspicions were correct but in my admin capacity, I won't delete a page based on CSD G5 without confirmation and I hope you won't tag pages stating that a blocked editor has created a page until the page creator is confirmed to be a sockpuppet. I hope this helps explain my decision to untag that article. Liz Read! Talk! 00:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Granni has been accepted

Granni, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the help desk. Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider leaving us some feedback.

Thanks again, and happy editing!

Robert McClenon (talk) 03:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedian WikiOgres

Hi Liz, I really appreciate your contribution here, but I do not agree with the deletion of Wikipedian WikiOgres relying on an unclear and disputed 13 years old discussion. We currently have 56 WikiBears, 93 WikiCats, 4 WikiDragons, 425 WikiFairies, thousands of WikiGnomes, 86 WikiGryphons, 30 WikiHobbits, 52 WikiJanitors, 24 Hyphen Luddites, 10 WikiTigers and 4 WikiSquirrels. There are more than 300 WikiOgres here, why can't them be treated equally? Thanks, Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 14:57, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Est. 2021,
I was upholding the previous deletion decision at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/User/Archive/January 2008#Category:Fantastic Wikipedia editors. Even if I were to restore this category for you, it wouldn't prevent the category from being tagged again and deleted by a different administrator (which I think would happen fairly quickly). My advice is to bring your request to WT:CFD and see what the editors and admins who frequent category deletion discussions would advise. This situation must have happened before.
The problem is that if this was an article deleted through an WP:AFD, it would be possible to draft a new version and pass it through WP:AFC to overcome a previous deletion decision but there is no existing process like this for categories. Liz Read! Talk! 23:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:TheSpoonMan2000

Hi Liz, hope everything is well - What about removing talkpage access for this user ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 23:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to get to know you

Hello @Liz! I'm new here and I wanted to get to know you. Is there anyone else you feel I should get to know? :) Aditi (she/her/hers) (talk) 14:49, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Aditi,
Welcome to Wikipedia! My advice is to make use of the Teahouse with any questions you have. My own introduction to Wikipedia was rocky and I know that I only continued to edit because folks at the Teahouse were very patient with all of my questions.
Also, review this information about Alternate accounts. You should stick to editing with one account unless you have a good reason for making use of a second account.
If you are having trouble finding a place to start, check out the hundreds of WikiProjects...they are projects that focus on a shared topic of interest. :Happy editing! Liz Read! Talk! 21:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Midnight Club

Hi Liz, I would like you to help me by deleting The Midnight Club so that I can move my draft there since, as indicated there, the filming of the series has already begun. I ask you here because two days ago the mark for deletion but no one has attended my request. Greetings. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 21:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bruno Rene Vargas,
I moved the page. I saw this request earlier and I don't remember why I hesitated to do it before. Let me know if you need the previous edits restored. The ones I'd restore involve the page when it was a redirect but I wouldn't restore the ones that concern the page when it was about a band. Liz Read! Talk! 21:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No need, it's fine as it is. Thank you very much for responding to my request. Bruno Rene Vargas (talk) 22:06, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah

Liz, I see you archiving from Yoninah's talk. When I die, please don't do that to my talk, leave it as it is (and no candle top, please.) The edit summary says the archived things go to Archive 1, but I don't find them there, nor in the last one. Where do they go? I believe that Yoninah's talk speaks the best volumes about what she did and stood for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gerda, it is very unusual for me to touch another editor's user talk page like this but for all deceased Wikipedians' talk pages I've seen, the talk pages are either blank or just have statements left in memory of them and their work. I wanted to do this gradually though in case anyone objected. I won't touch your talk pages in any circumstances unless to leave messages or respond to ones. Liz Read! Talk! 17:29, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for explaining. Last thing first: do feel free to add to my talk then, just don't take away, please. - To me, the person who died speaks more in contributions than in our little summaries. I do clean-up many talk pages of users who retired, removing bot-messages and arbcom clutter. That stuff doesn't add much to understand a user, and on my talk I archive it quickly. When the great SBHB died, everything was archived, but I returned two threads I found indispensable, look and enjoy. (For more enjoyment: look at those archives.) Last question: where did the recently archived things go? I didn't find them in Archive 1. Perhaps I was blind, - also a higher number would make more sense for chronology. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:00, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) The threads were moved to User talk:Yoninah/Archive 28 (some by me, some by another editor) * Pppery * it has begun... 21:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you moved manually? Thank you. Sorry, I found it confusing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for cleaning up after my attempts to clear the talk page, Pppery. Liz Read! Talk! 01:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Prod

Hi Liz. Thanks for this note on their talkpage. For info, this has been raised with them multiple times before, which resulted in this ANI post where they agreed to use edit summaries when it comes to prods. Thanks again. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:38, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hitchin-Stevenage Fibre Optic trial

In the third paragraph it says that Kao got a Nobel prize for the work that this was the proof of concept of. Elinruby (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this category should be on Kao's own Wikipedia page and not on the page for the work that they won the prize for. Plus, it was a red link category, it wasn't even a valid category. Liz Read! Talk! 17:31, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category changes

Hi Liz. You may find User:Nardog/CatChangesViewer useful in your category work. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm always open to new tools, thanks, JJMC89. Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Singapore model CSD

Hi Liz, regarding your edit summary on Singapore model, the creator 104.244.210.124 (talk · contribs) is a VPN IP of the same user that appeared with a named account the next day (ShelteredCook (talk · contribs)). Does this affect the CSD assessment? Thanks, CMD (talk) 07:06, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Education

Hi, you sent me a message in my discussion to ask you a question. I want to learn how to tag articles and what articles are eligible for deletion. I would love to learn these.--Sepah iranian (talk) 04:18, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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indef?

this is obviously a troll sock, so please reconsider your block. VAXIDICAE💉 20:33, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They are in fact a sock. VAXIDICAE💉 20:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(ec):Yes, I was looking at an isolated edit, not all of their contributions. Liz Read! Talk! 20:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

DEPROD of State Line Mob

Hi Liz, just wanted to let you know that the Article you PRODed had been DEPRODED via [4] (I think DEPRODer should inform and if they don't I do it if I notice it...) Cheers, CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This was not unexpected, CommanderWaterford. I hope that it will lead to article improvement. For an article that identifies individual people by name as criminals, without any sources, it's violating BLP. Thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Liz, will check into detail tomorrow, for today I had enough :) CommanderWaterford (talk) 23:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Restoring an article I let sit around too long

Dear Liz

Hi I have not been on Wikipedia much in the last year and I seem to need some help. Your name was on one of the communiques to me, perhaps the last communique, and so I am asking you for help. If someone else would be better to ask, please let me know. Thanks.

Basically the article in question was called Draft: Jerrold Mundis. I am ready to finish it now and came back to find that I let it sit around too long. So it got deleted, just a few days ago it would appear. Understood. But I am not clear on how to get it back or what to do after that.

A button said "Restore the article" or something like that and I thought I did it right but I am not sure where things are at now so I was wondering if you could help me.

Basically I understand what needs to be done, I have the proper information now to finish the article and I would like to do so ASAP. I also need help in getting it from a Draft to an accepted article and part of Wikipedia after I make changes and deletions. Can you help? Thanks so much.

Isabel Ochone (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Isabel OchoneIsabel Ochone (talk) 00:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Isabel Ochone,
Drafts that have been deleted due to inactivity can be restored upon request either at WP:REFUND or by asking an administrator. I'm happy to restore Draft:Jerrold Mundis for you to work on.
When you feel it is ready, just put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page to submit it for review. If you have questions about the Articles for Creation review, just ask at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and someone from the AFC review team can help you. If you have general questions about editing on Wikipedia, the Teahouse is a great place to get answers. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you SO much!! Sorry to be such a novice!! I will have a go. When you say put {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page to submit it for review do you mean the very top of the page and just leave it and someone else will do the rest and get back to me? I will try that. Thanks for your clarity.

Isabel Ochone (talk) 00:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)Isabel OchoneIsabel Ochone (talk) 00:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Isabel Ochone, yes, after you place that code at the top and save the page, you'll see that a box appears stating that it is in the process of being reviewed. It's a little unpredictable, sometimes drafts get reviewed right away and other times it can take a couple of weeks. We are all volunteers and the reviewers work on their own schedules. Liz Read! Talk! 01:45, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, thank you SO much. You really helped me out and I am very grateful. I put the draft up as you suggested. If there is anything you can do to expedite it, That would be great. If not, I understand. Best to you! Isabel Ochone (talk) 19:02, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CS1

re https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Category:Taxa_named_by_Jean-Henri_Humbert&type=revision&diff=1013717952&oldid=1013613360&diffmode=source

please note as I have it on my watch - it is not a CS1 - so have reverted, in good faith. Thanks. JarrahTree 02:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JarrahTree,
It is not uncommon for categories to be temporarily empty for a variety of reasons. That's why they sit for 7 days in Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion before being deleted. Any time you see a category tagged CSD C1 that is no longer empty, just remove the tag. I check a couple of times a day but obviously don't catch everything. But thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 02:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any time - you have a very thankless task... JarrahTree 02:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Hello Liz Glad to find you. You have recently edited my article Government Degree College No.02 Mardan. I am Thankful that you have improved my article. Wanna ask for more help. If I want to protect my article can I do? If can so guide me please Sultan Abdul sultan (talk) 12:23, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Talk etiquette error

Hello Liz I left notes on a Talk page for a non-existent Wikipedia page, Talk:USS_Arcata_(1903). I apologize, I didn't realize that violates Wikipedia rules. I arrived at the non-existent page through a disambiguation link for USS_Arcata. Is it possible for you to post the content of that page in my Talk, or email it to me? I took notes directly in that page and don't have the article dates etc. Roket (talk) 13:55, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked IP abusing talk page

Hello, sorry to bother you. IP 82.40.130.75 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), who is currently blocked, is repeatedly abusing their talk page [5], [6]. Can you perhaps take a look? --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. :) --Ashleyyoursmile! 16:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret G. Hays

Hi. I'm actually trying to turn the Margaret G. Hays article into its own article instead of having it redirect to her sister's page. I had to stop my edits due to internet issues, but when I went back to work on it, it had be redirected. What do I need to do to get it to not be reverted again? Thanks. Sometimes the end is only the beginning... (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Carlo U. Quinterio moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Carlo U. Quinterio, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 TT me 13:22, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Syndromes

My only involvement with that page was moving it to a properly-capitalized name. Not involved, sorry DS (talk) 01:20, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

AFD close

Hi. Could you close this one please? Thanks. I enjoyed the COVID talk page guidelines. I put on a mask and gloves as soon as I saw them. --- Possibly (talk) 01:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! I forgot I had posted that. Borrowed from someone else's user talk page. I'll close that AFD. Liz Read! Talk! 01:31, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Urgent indef block

It appears they didn’t get the message the first time now they are back with more vandalism and attack pages. Celestina007 (talk) 23:23, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Celestina007,
Right now, I'm looking over their page creations and will block if I think it's necessary. Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It requires courage to make the right judgement call and kudos to you for doing the needful. The attack page they created was what drew my attention to them before I discovered you had previously blocked them for vandalism. Celestina007 (talk) 23:39, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I came across the page tagged for vandalism and when I looked into it, I found that I had already blocked them once for the same type of thing. Only this time, it was worse because they published bad articles instead of bad drafts. Liz Read! Talk! 23:51, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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How can i add templates

How can i add templates

You can find lots of help at the Teahouse. Liz Read! Talk! 19:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedia Unassessed-Class vital articles in Biology

Hi Liz

Please undelete Category:Wikipedia Unassessed-Class vital articles in Biology ... and to avoid further deletion, please tag it as a {{Possibly empty category}}.

Thanks. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:17, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Request Patrice Robitaille at Articles for deletion

Hi Liz, yesterday I put the proposed for deletion at the article Patrice Robitaille and 24 hours later it was removed. I never got my rationale rejected because it was already removed. Look at the Patrice Robitaille article it has no citation sources in the article. First could you review the article Patrice Robitaille if it doesn't have citation sources in the article, could you request the article Patrice Robitaille at the Articles for deletion to be nominated for deletion, it was already de-prod an it still has no citation sources. I hope you will accept my request. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:6474:18A5:C80:2AD4 (talk) 02:15, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, 2001:569:74D2:A800:6474:18A5:C80:2AD4,
I can see that you PROD'd Patrice Robitaille, is there a reason you won't nominate it for an AFD yourself? I think you are a better advocate for your point of view than I would be. I don't make a lot of nominations at AFD myself. Liz Read! Talk! 02:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, it actually isn't possible for anonymous IPs to nominate pages for AFD themselves, because they don't have the ability to create new pages — so they can add the template to an article, but then can't actually create the AFD page to list it anywhere for an actual discussion, so all they can really do is either PROD or solicit named editors to do their desired dirty work for them. That said, Patrice Robitaille has both a stronger notability claim and better sources for it than the article was using, so I've made some improvements to the article — it could still use more, certainly, but even his French article isn't in a very good state at the moment either, and at the very least I've done enough that the IP's concerns should now be moot. Bearcat (talk) 03:27, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my unfamiliarity with AFD becomes visible. I've only made a few nominations that I thought were a slam dunk. Thank you for your help, Bearcat. Liz Read! Talk! 03:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TY

Hey Liz, how ya doin'? Just wanted to say thank you for the G8(?). Guess I missed one. ... well, not "guess" really, more like "obviously". :-). Hope you and yours are doing well. Cheers. — Ched (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

— Ched! I'm okay, better now that it's springtime. I'm back to editing more, like my beginning years. I seem to have more free time the past few months, I wonder why. ;-) Glad to still see some familiar names here. Liz Read! Talk! 16:47, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Perma-Zyme Request for Recovery

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Thank you for working with the Perma-Zyme page in Wikipedia. We have been working to make edits to the page to make it better and wanted to submit the new version but see that it has been deleted. Is there any way that you can recover it so we can submit the new version? Thank you in advance for your help!

First, who is "we"? Accounts must represent individual editors, not groups or companies. Also, if you are a paid editor or if you are editing Wikipedia as part of your job, you must disclose your conflict-of-interest (please see Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure). This is not optional, this is mandatory. Additionally, can you provide a link to the deleted article?
Finally, please sign your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~) so that your comment is signed with your username and the time & date it was posted. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

RevDel Request

Thank you for deleting the attack page that used a homophobic slur against someone. Can you please revision delete the following revisions as it is grossly offensive (dehumanisation): first revision to second revision. Note, for the first revision please delete the edit summary as well. Thanks. Train of Knowledge (Talk) 04:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I forgot to mention to delete the person's username from the edits as well (for both edits obviously) as it is borderline attacking someone. Train of Knowledge (Talk) 05:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is taken care of, Train of Knowledge. Let me know if there is something I missed. Liz Read! Talk! 05:05, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Funny

April Fools User Page
LOL, nice touch with your user page! Toad62 14:56, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In a weird way though it looks cool! I'm going to try it out myself! Toad62 15:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I borrowed it from another editor so I can't take credit for it. Liz Read! Talk! 20:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well still, that's hilarious! Toad62 23:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No evidence provided

Regarding.... Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/COVID-19 there is no evidence provided for a consensus regarding the "ban" claim. [7], [8]. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:00, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There may not be a consensus but here is a precedence for deleting COVID-19 joke pages. Are you actually asking for it to be restored for four more hours before it will be deleted again? Liz Read! Talk! 20:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter the topic.... what bothers me is a lack of consensus and communication. If it's not allowed then it should be clearly stated rather than go through this every year. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:09, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Anyways I am going to add it to WP:FOOLR then with links to the CSDs. No use repeating the same thing and expecting different results... - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not written down. It's a matter of taste, just like we wouldn't have joke pages about Nazis, war, prison, the Japanese tsunami, hate crimes, AIDS or racial violence. Liz Read! Talk! 21:24, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2021).

Administrator changes

removed Alexandria • Happyme22 • RexxS

Guideline and policy news

  • Following a request for comment, F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a has been deprecated; it covered immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
  • Following a request for comment, page movers were granted the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target.

Technical news

  • When you move a page that many editors have on their watchlist the history can be split and it might also not be possible to move it again for a while. This is because of a job queue problem. (T278350)
  • Code to support some very old web browsers is being removed. This could cause issues in those browsers. (T277803)

Arbitration

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Bixton

Hi Liz, I was wondering if I could see what the Bixton page looked like before speedy deletion? When I have looked, it seems to be a valid surname page/dab, an index of articles MOS:DABMENTIONing people with this surname. All the best, Boleyn (talk) 09:03, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, Boleyn. Liz Read! Talk! 15:14, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :) Boleyn (talk) 21:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Templates for merging

Hi! Am I missing something, but why did you tag Category:Templates for merging for speedy deletion? Has the specific TfM use case been deprecated or something? Also pinging UnitedStatesian who tagged it similarly earlier. —  HELLKNOWZ   ▎TALK 21:20, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hellknowz,
With a few exceptions, empty categories are tagged for deletion, although they sit for 7 days before deletion in case they were emptied out-of-process or a mistake has happened. It is not uncommon for a category to be temporarily empty and then the tag is removed. If you believe that this category should be retained, even if it is empty, you can tag it {{emptycat}} and that will mean that it doesn't show up on our daily lists of empty categories. Liz Read! Talk! 21:43, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

er, hahah

seems fine, not sure where all the indonesian tallest buildings went - maybe the skyscraper enthusiasm moved it all sidways - please feel free to remove whatever, and thanks.. JarrahTree 13:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, JarrahTree, I will have to go back into my contributions & logs to see what page you are talking about. But glad I have your blessing! Liz Read! Talk! 17:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UNDELETING Nuhu Muzaata Batte

Hello Comrade Liz, i am kindly requesting that you undelete Nuhu Muzaata Batte, it had been recommended and tagged for deleting citing copyright infringement which i had immediately corrected and cleaned. I therefore Kindly request that you undelete.Thank you very much. Ibitukirire (talk) 21:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ibitukirire,
Since there were questions about the content, I have restored this page, moved it into Draft space and submitted it to Articles for Creation for review. You can still work on the page and can find it at Draft:Nuhu Muzaata Batte. Please do not move it to the main space of the project without being reviewed or it is likely to be deleted again. Liz Read! Talk! 22:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much @ Liz, but I will not make any edits on that draft, I know other people will do so and modify it further. This is because I have realised my edits are being mistaken by some editors non disclosed paid edits when I reality I do not have any penny received nor in any way connected to the subjects. I have already been warned by NJD-DE that I will be blocked from further editing given the nature of my edits, hence the my decision to first hold on, observe and learn before any serious edits. Thank you very much Ibitukirire (talk) 22:18, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibitukirire, not doing anything with this draft might not be the best idea though either. When loading the draft into earwig's copyvio detector I still see a lot of sentences that are very close to the original sites. To my taste too many and too close. – NJD-DE (talk) 22:43, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If that is the case, Then I will work on it later I need to take some rest, As it is 1:55AM here, thank you. Ibitukirire (talk)`

Revdel Request

Hi Liz, Revdel Request per WP:BLPCRIME for [9], individual named w/o conviction. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:06, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Liz Read! Talk! 18:10, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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GSMArena

Hi! You have deleted the GSMArena article, which was marked for speedy deletion. There were multiple, independent reliable secondary sources added to the article. Two users asked not to delete it on the talk page. Can you undo the removal? Thanks. 08:17, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Editor,
I'm willing to restore it if I can move it to your user space or Draft space and you submit it to WP:AFC for review when you believe it is ready. If you move it back into main space, I can guarantee that it will be deleted again and it is likely that the title will be protected so that there will never be an article with that title. Secondly, always sign your talk page comments with four tildes (~~~~) so I can see who I'm talking to. Liz Read! Talk! 02:25, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Hi, I can submit it to AFC, but I'm not understanding why it was deleted in the first place. WP:A7 is "a lower standard than notability." according to the guideline. Although the article was just a stub, I think it passes WP:GNG because it had multiple sources that were reliable, secondary, independent. Sorry for forgetting my signature. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:56, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draftify Online Khabar

Hi Liz, I was thinking to work on Online Khabar after seeing it had a chance of deletion. I found few reliable sources so I thought I will improve it. But today, when I came back, I noticed that the article is already deleted. That's fine. But I request you to draftify it so that I can work on it. I know I can start afresh but that will be a disrespect to the previous authors work. Could you draftify it? Thanks, nirmal (talk) 10:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, nirmal,
I have restored the article and moved it to Draft:Online Khabar. Please know that the editor who tagged your page for deletion wanted the title to be "salted" which means that the title would be protected so that there will never be an article with this name. What this means is that if you move it directly back into the main space of the project, it will be deleted and there will never be an article called Online Khabar. What you can do is make this article as noncommercial as possible and submit it for review at Articles for Creation. This is seriously your only option at this point if you want there to be an article on this subject on Wikipedia.
If you need help and advice, I recommend visiting the Teahouse or WT:AFC. Liz Read! Talk! 02:33, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Thanks. BTW, its not "my" page. It was started by some other guy. Regards! nirmal (talk) 05:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

KSI Albums.

Just to give you a little history here. The article KSI (entertainer) was renamed mid-March to KSI. Timiwiki... then created new cats and started moving all the articles. I jumped in and listed for speedy under C2D (where somebody has objected, but in the wrong place!). I also notified Timwiki... 3 times about various things. I don't care how this is sorted, but perhaps you might have an idea. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:11, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PS. Speedy declined. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Richhoncho,
It looks like KSI (entertainer) is now a redirect. I know nothing much about YouTube but even I have heard of KSI although I didn't know he had albums. But we don't typically have categories on individuals. And Liz Read! Talk! 02:36, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Candyce Kelshall draft page

Hello Liz, please help me to recover my deleted material so I can improv it and resubmit it. It is not spam or promotional, it is part of the Women in red project with King's College London, to visibilize women scholars. If it sound too promotional might be because it is my first time. I will rework it so to comply with the rules. Please help me to recover my material. Thanks

Hello, Editor,
First, give me a link to the deleted page so I can see why it was deleted. Secondly, sign all of your talk page comments with four tildes (~~~~) so I can see what your name is. Liz Read! Talk! 02:22, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz, this is all I can see now https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=-_Candyce_Kelshall&action=edit&redlink=1 please help me to recover my deleted material so I can improv it and resubmit it. It is not spam or promotional, it is part of the Women in red project with King's College London, to visibilize women scholars. If it sound too promotional might be because it is my first time. I will rework it so to comply with the rules. Please help me to recover my material. Thanks JMH2021 (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2021 (UTC)JMH2021JMH2021 (talk) 22:26, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, JMH2021,
I've restored it to User:JMH2021/Sandbox. I wouldn't have chosen to delete it but it's a judgment call. It's waiting to be reviewed by an WP:AFC reviewer but you can still work on it. I'm not an expert on content creation but I think you really have to cut it down. Be selective in what you include, you shouldn't mention everything she has done and every publication. It's so lengthy that I can see why it was seen as promotional as it reads like a resume or CV (what we refer to as a LinkedIn biography which is not a compliment). If you have questions, you can visit WT:AFC or the Teahouse. Liz Read! Talk! 22:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz, Thank you very nmuch for recovering adn the feedback, appreciated. JMH2021 (talk) 07:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC)JMH2021[reply]

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Undeletion

Hi, if you look at the logs for This Is a Robbery: The World's Greatest Art Heist [10] you deleted it just after I restored the original article to its location fulfilling a WP:RM/TR request. This article was sourced and moved to draft without an explanation when it would probably need AfD to determine notability. (t · c) buidhe 03:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I don't understand why the page was tagged for deletion then and the talk page wasn't moved to Draft space with the article. I'LL restore the deleted edits and you can move the talk page back. This wasn't made very clear. Liz Read! Talk! 03:18, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clearing that up! (t · c) buidhe 03:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Henry Clifford De Meillon (1800-1859)

Hello Liz You notified me that my edits were deleted as they were inactive over 6 months. Reason is I was waiting for replies to this one and to another. I am sorry but I find communications tedious and cannot easily reply as by email. I was unable to reverse the edit. If you have time to review what I had written in reply to others it would be appreciated. Basically, there are two issues.

1. I am the most knowledgeable person about HC De Meillon's life as I have recently had a book published on him and his ancestors: De Meillon’s Legacy – Art, Science and War by L.J. Cabri & R.W. James. Footprint Press, Hermanus, South Africa [www.footprintpress.co.za] 2020. 227 pp. Price R650.00 (hard cover). ISBN 978-1-990980-86-2

Why can't I edit the many mistakes? 2. Someone had created an entry for me that is also riddled with errors. Why can't I correct them.

Thanks Louis J. Cabri lcabri@sympatico.ca

Hello, Louis,
First it would be great if you gave me a direct link to the page of the deleted article or your username. Second, if it was deleted as a CSD G13, that is a stale draft, you don't need to explain to me what you plan to do with it, it was only deleted because there had been no editing activity on it for six months. We want to see that editors are working to improve drafts and after six months, we assume they have been abandoned. It frequently happens that new editors start articles and then never return to work on them. Liz Read! Talk! 23:30, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

you've got mail

Hi Liz, I woudl apprecaite your advice. Is this page a good example of a non-promotional Bio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern ?? thanks :) JMH2021 (talk) 20:52, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weather Categories

Besides the Category set I am currently working on, are there are other red-linked ones? NoahTalk 03:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Noah,
I generally look at Special:WantedCategories to see red link categories that need to be dealt with. A new list is generated every three days. The next one will be appearing tomorrow, April 10th. Liz Read! Talk! 19:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Thanks for deleting the many drafts I've been tagging for G3 and G11. Noah 💬 19:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, -noah-, you are certainly on a roll! Thank you so much for posting a talk page notice for the page creators. You might be surprised to know that some of our long-term editors started out as youthful vandals...there is always a possibility they will get the message and turn into contributors. Liz Read! Talk! 19:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mar dun ga

It feels like they are harassing UPE's. Fittingly as they're user name translates roughly as "you are dead". I think I will block based on the user name. I AGF'd a warning, they've not responded. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Deepfriedokra,
I think a block would be appropriate. Personally, I'm reluctant to block unless there is ongoing disruption but I think there are a lot of red flags with this editor and peculiar behavior for a new editor. Liz Read! Talk! 02:07, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Skimmermotion

Hi. The article Skimmermotion refers to a 2013 invention that has been sold since that year. It's not advertising. Its a real invention. The invention changed the way the pools were cleaned. On Wikipedia there is an article dedicated to pool cleaning. This article is written historically and technically and does not seek to be advertising. The team of inventors is venezuelans who are now Americans. See Automated pool cleaner in wikipedia I respectfully ask you to reconsider the measure of deleting the article.

First, there needs to be substantial coverage of this invention by mainstream newspapers, magazines, books, media websites, etc. Second, please sign all talk page comments with four tildes (~~~~) so I can see who is leaving this message. Liz Read! Talk! 03:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz!

Hello how are you Liz ? can you review this article [[11]] if it is ok can you move it to Article space thanks a lot --Istanbul1453Istanbul (talk) 08:24, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Istanbul1453Istanbul,
I don't review drafts, you should submit it to Articles for Creation to editors who review new articles. They will offer helpful advice and let you know if it is ready for main space. Liz Read! Talk! 04:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

restoring page

Hi Liz, You offered to restore my page PrOphecy Sun to my sandbox. As no one bothered to read my contestation of the speedy deletion and the fact that 4 more references were included. I may as well put it thought the review process. BF (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll restore it. I thought it was hastily deleted when it was in the process of being reviewed. Liz Read! Talk! 04:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
BF, it is now at User:Thebaconfairy/Sandbox. Please let me know if another editor attempts to move or deletes your draft before it can be reviewed by WP:AFC reviewers and I'll provide my explanation. Liz Read! Talk! 04:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal

Hi Liz, I am disagreeing the Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal for speedy deletion for CSD C1. I have already restored the category I have created the category since 2011. I am against a similar category Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal and Laval because it has no province name for the article Laval, Quebec. I have now put Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal and Laval for CSD C1. For my request could delete Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal and Laval for speedy deletion under CSD C! and I want to keep the category Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal. Rememeber delete Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal and Laval and Category:Federal electoral districts of Montreal will be kept. OK? Thanks. Steam5 (talk) 03:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Steam5,
Why on Earth are you BOLDING words here?
Except for a few, limited exceptions, empty categories are tagged for deletion. If, after 7 days, they are still empty, they are deleted. If they are not empty, the tag is removed. If an empty category is deleted and it is later needed, it can be restored, no problem. Those are the rules. Liz Read! Talk! 03:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Lexi Rabe" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Lexi Rabe. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 9#Lexi Rabe until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. IronManCap (talk) 17:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Problem user

Hi Liz. I think we have a problem user, namely Ndeofm. You have deleted some of their contributions already. They have also created a userpage for the nonexistent account "NdeofmBot", making it seem like a bot. On their own userpage, they also imply that it's a bot account. They also include misleading userboxes to make it appear like they are an administrator and have an edit count much higher than it really is. I can tell that the userpage is actually a mashed up copy of my userpage.

I believe they are a native speaker of Indonesian, as they have been active on Indonesian Wikipedia and seem to indicate being from Indonesia on their userpage. So there is probably a language barrier, if not also some WP:CIR issues. Can you recommend an appropriate response so that they aren't posing as an admin or bot owner? Thanks. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:21, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Drm310,
I just looked into this and it looks like their Bot pages were quickly deleted, thanks for tagging them. Although they created their account in 2012, they have only been active for about a week or so, so I'll leave them a note and remove any inappropriate userboxes. At this point, I see red flags but nothing blockworthy so I'll just keep tabs on them. Liz Read! Talk! 01:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid to say that they have once again added an admin userbox to their userpage. They've also received a bunch of new warnings about creating garbage pages. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I added another warning. I'm giving him/her one more chance. Liz Read! Talk! 19:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about CSD tagging for CSK#4

Hi! Thanks for the edit and explanation here about the {{db-banned}} tag on speedy keep AfDs. In general, where should the CSD tag be placed on the page when an AfD satisfies WP:CSK#4: (

the nominated page is speedily kept while the nomination can be removed from the log, tagged with {{db-banned}} and speedily deleted as a banned contribution.
— Wikipedia:Speedy keep

Should it be placed under the section header to prevent it from being transcluded to the main AfD page? The instructions in the guideline may need a slight re-wording so the steps for handling these cases is a little clearer. — MarkH21talk 00:51, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, MarkH21,
Yes, unfortunately, CSD tags causes the AFD main page and AFD sorting pages to show up in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as having been created by blocked or banned users which might confuse patrolling admins. If it was me, I'd just alert an admin you are friendly with about the situation rather than tagging the pages which are transcluded. As for me, I think retaining deletion discussions can be useful even if they are initiated by sockpuppets which is why I didn't delete them. But I'm sure it would be difficult to find an admin who agrees with your position. Liz Read! Talk! 00:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I would actually also lean towards your position. Should the wording about {{db-banned}}-tagging at WP:CSK be revised then? Maybe I should just bring this up at Wikipedia talk:Speedy keep? — MarkH21talk 01:04, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it ever hurts to bring up issues like this on policy talk pages. Some of them aren't on many Watchlists and won't receive many responses but others, like WT:CSD, have a lot of very experienced editors and admins who keep tabs on discussions there and can offer their opinions. Liz Read! Talk! 01:18, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the information, but I'm actually not sure about which ones you're referring to? Are these the categories in the Standings Templates? Or on the Men's Volleyball Conference Tournament pages? If so, you should know I actually plan on creating season team pages for each of the teams that wins their respective conference as well as those that make the NCAA Tournament. They would actually fall in the same categories as some of the red links. I was planning on waiting until the tourneys are done to do those pages because I've previously been told that I shouldn't create a category UNLESS at least two Wiki pages links to it. So are two different policies in play, or is someone misinforming people like myself? I'm more than willing to do what is asked without any problem, but I need to know which one to follow.Bigddan11 (talk) 22:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bigddan11,
I actually had to go search through my contributions because I've been removing a lot of red link categories today that showed up on Special:WantedCategories.
The page that prompted my message to you was Template:Mountain Pacific Sports Federation Volleyball Tournament navbox. I removed the red link categories because they were part of a template and were showing up on article pages as well. The problem with templates and userboxes is that if they have a red link category, it shows up on every page where they are placed. Any way, if you'd like to create the categories, just revert my edit. If you'd like someone else to create the categories for you, you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects and categories.
I hope this helps explain my too-short message to you. If there is a next time, I'll try to include more helpful information. Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guidelines for manual archiving at ANI

Hey, I was just kinda curious about this - what are the guidelines you use for when to manually archive threads at ANI? (asking you since you're the most recent person to do it and seem to have a good idea of what's going on) Thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 18:09, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Elli,
Sorry I missed your message when you first posted it. I use to do a lot of archiving at ANI when I was a new editor but I don't go there very often since I became an admin. For ANI, I usually wait at least three dates after the cases have been closed. If the page isn't very crowded, I leave them longer. I think there is an official minimum of 24 hours after a case is closed before it is archived but I think that is too short of a period for editors who participated in the discussion to see the conclusion. For AN, I leave the threads much longer, more like 5 days, because it is not as busy as a noticeboard. Just a reminder that should you decide to close a case yourself, please add {{nac}} to your statement, either at the beginning or by your signature. I hope this helps. Liz Read! Talk! 19:49, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Elli (talk | contribs) 19:51, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lists of the Paleozoic life of the United States by state

Hello. I intend to create the category above. Noticing the title has been previously deleted by you on grounds of C1 (empty), and per instructions in the header on the creation page, I am contacting you. This is part of an effort to cleanup and reorganize categorization related to prehistoric life in North America. The category in question will be a subcategory of Category:Lists of prehistoric life in the United States and Category:Paleozoic life of North America and will be populated by articles in the form "List of the Paleozoic life of 'U.S. state X'". It will serve similar function as Category:Lists of the Mesozoic life of the United States by state. May I go forward on this? Are there any problems you are aware? --DB1729 (talk) 13:26, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, DB1729,
This category was deleted simply because it was empty. However, since there is no permanent list of category contents, it's difficult to know what pages it held before and why it was emptied.
I can restore it as soon as an article is assigned to the category. I'd rather restore it than have it recreated so it retains its edit history. Liz Read! Talk! 15:27, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have just added an article to it. You may now restore it if that's how you prefer and I will take it from there. Thanks. --DB1729 (talk) 15:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GT name in Talk:John Morrison and the Miz

Hey, the name of the Good Topic changed (to better accord with MoS), so the name used in the article history template on this page does need to change, also; the solution to the redlink category is to create the corrected category, which I've now done. Thanks for noticing the category issue; I didn't even realize that GT/FTs created category membership like that! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:23, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bryan,
If there are other pages in the misspelled category, you should request a speedy category rename at Categories for Discussion to keep the edit history of the original, misspelled category and so that other pages are reassigned.
I was just going through Special:WantedCategories and a lot of these red link categories are due to an editor changing a template and not realizing that it created a new category so you are right about that. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, thanks for the cleanup work! I do a lot of the same kind of work in categories relating to Good Articles. That's a good point about trying to preserve category history; I'll try that the next time. Thanks! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 20:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hossein Mohammadi Vahidi

I wanted to know why you deleted this article? New resources and a new award have been added to this article, which proves the reputation. What is the reason for this?--Jackpet11 (talk) 08:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can edit the article. It was not all copying. Please be reasonable. I ask you to retrieve the article and give me another chance because it will disappoint me--Jackpet11 (talk) 08:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Admin Athaenara laid out all of the reason for deletion here on their talk page. I stand by their conclusions. Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me another chance to edit and improve the article. I understand that you should not break the copyright law. Please help and turn this page--Jackpet11 (talk) 04:33, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

please answer me. I made an extensive edit of this article. It is available on my sandbox page. Please check if it is good? I am waiting for your answer--Jackpet11 (talk) 04:35, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Admin's Barnstar
Nice CSD work. Sorry, I didn't notice that it couldn't have been speedied.. CutlassCiera 16:21, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your removal of the CSD Tag

Hi Liz, you removed the CSD A10 Tag at Openings (The Queen's Gambit) - it seems to me that you perhaps did not read the article entirely. 95% of this article are about the already exiting Article so CSD A10 applies. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:49, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like we have both edited this page again and I think you resolved the issue. Liz Read! Talk! 19:38, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guillermo Alonso Martínez Espinoza

Hi - You recently blocked User:Guillermo Alonso Martínez Espinoza. I suspect that this is the same editor: User:Guillermo Alonso Martínez Espinoza at Torreon LLC. They are following a similar editing pattern. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dormskirk,
Actually, I never blocked Guillermo Alonso Martínez Espinoza but I do agree that they are the same editor so I've blocked Guillermo Alonso Martínez Espinoza at Torreon LLC as a sockpuppet. Liz Read! Talk! 19:37, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake...I now see you declined the unblock. Many thanks for getting involved again. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 21:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Dormskirk. This was a pretty clear cut case. Liz Read! Talk! 00:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thx So Much Liz

Liz i just want to say thank you so much for letting me in on the teahouse group is a honor for me to be in a special place if u wanna chat i here!!!

Sincerly, Phantom Digital

Hello, Phantom Digital,
Glad to help. If I hadn't discovered the Teahouse when I started editing regularly in 2013, I wouldn't have continued to edit. I was very frustrated with being corrected by other editors and the enforcement of policies I didn't understand and I was basically complaining a lot. The Teahouse regulars at that time were very patient explaining how things were done here on Wikipedia while I tried to speed up the learning curve so I wasn't making so many mistakes. Liz Read! Talk! 02:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about deleted sandbox

Hi Liz, I noticed that my sandbox was deleted on April 8th, 2021. I'm a new user and was practicing in my draft space. I was wondering if you could please revert my sandbox. Thanks in advance for any help! Ketchum.e (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ketchum.e,
I did delete your sandbox but all that was there was a broken redirect to User talk:The Daily Wire which is where you moved your sandbox. There is nothing to restore on that page. You'll have to talk to CambridgeBayWeather who deleted User talk:The Daily Wire as it was a page mistakenly put into user space and there is no editor with that name so it was deleted as the page of a nonexistent user. Liz Read! Talk! 00:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Replying here for convenience. Ketchum.e it was partly deleted because there isn't a user by that name but also because it was tagged as a "Article for Creation" and it was a duplicate of an existing article. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi allCambridgeBayWeather - It was not a new article but rather proposed changes to the existing article. I'm new to all of this so I'm sorry if it was tagged incorrectly. Can you please revert the deletion and I will make the appropriate changes?

Question

Did you scold me for using an inappropriate term? If so, I apologize for not using better terminology, and I'm open to suggestions. Lay some on me, I'm all eyes. Atsme 💬 📧 20:13, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Atsme,
It actually wasn't a comment about any individual editor but about the climate that exists right now in the American political area. I think after the past few years, people are divided up into camps. I don't know the articles and talk pages well enough to know who supports what I just see evidence of this polarity on noticeboards and arbitration enforcement complaints. I don't visit the Trump/Biden/Congress/Washington, DC articles as it has seemed there are plenty of editors keeping watch over them. Liz Read! Talk! 00:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, it has become a highly toxic area. Take a look at the attacks on me for simply requesting review of a close. Also look at the discussion on the closer's TP because that's where I went first, and then you'll have a bigger picture of what took place. I don't understand it. It's like you described but worse. All one has to do is oppose or question or simply express their view - and boom - they become a target of aspersions and/or ridicule. It's appalling behavior and to think it happened at AN, of all places, and nothing was said. It's really sad. 😢 Atsme 💬 📧 01:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recreated Robert Turner (Bahá'í)

Hi Liz,

I recreated the Robert Turner article that was recently deleted because of copyright issues. I rewrote everything so that no content was copied / pasted from https://bahaipedia.org/Robert_Turner.

You can find the new article here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Turner_(Bahá%27%C3%AD)

Please let me know if there are any additional issues with the article that I can address.

Thanks! Nonameplayer (talk) 00:21, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nonameplayer,
According to our Copyright tool here, there aren't any copyright problems any more. Looks like an interesting article. Congratulations! Liz Read! Talk! 00:53, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 April 21 Millimetre of rain

User SCP-053 has challenged your delete per CSD R3 of their redirect — Charles Stewart (talk) 05:17, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Charles Stewart,
Okie doke, thanks for letting me know. Liz Read! Talk! 05:26, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for alerting me

Hello, dear Liz, thank you for alerting me about the empty Category:Filipino contemporary pianists page. It was a work in progress that fell through the cracks for just a few days. I have now added entries into this Category. Cheers! Buszmail (talk) 08:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Buszmail,
That's how you should think of these talk page notices, as reminders. Glad you could progress with the category. Liz Read! Talk! 19:38, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel request

Hello. Would you carry out a revdel (RD#2 Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material) at the BLP articles, Arjun Tendulkar, Bobby Deol, and Tiger Shroff. Foul language in Hindi added by an IP 59.92.75.60. Thanks in advance. -- Ab207 (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ab207,
I think I took care of everything. Let me know if there is anything I missed. Liz Read! Talk! 19:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the swift action! -- Ab207 (talk) 04:40, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

Hello, Liz. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. CmdrDan (talk) 20:14, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Becky Bear Mahoney

Hi, Liz. I saw that you declined my CSD nomination of Draft:Becky Bear Mahoney. Should I just wait out the six months before it gets deleted as stale? Or would you say that my nomination was overly BITEy?

Best wishes, Sdrqaz (talk) 02:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sdrqaz,
It's a judgment call. Some admins would have just deleted the page. But I think when it only contains a few words, I'd prefer to just blank it. Deleting a page for a new editor when the page isn't really objectionable or damaging just seems like overkill. There's a good chance that the editor will not return to edit it. I usually see this situation when editors tag user pages that have a small amount of personal information and deleting those pages just seems a bit in-your-face as long as it's not promotional. But that's my opinion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see, Liz. I just felt that no good could have come out of it with "the absolute man". Thanks for sharing with me the nuances of these things. Yours, Sdrqaz (talk) 13:27, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of PR for Poets

Hi Liz, the page PR for Poets was speedy deleted, and I would like to get the source code back so that I can work to improve it in a sandbox. (Someone else was supposed to follow-up on my article creation and do work on this, but it didn't happen before the speedy delete occurred.) Thanks!

Glenn777 (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User:2010104aprameyan/sandbox

Hi Lizzy, I want to know why you declined my CSD nomination of User:2010104aprameyan/sandbox signed, Iflaq (talk) 12:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Muhammad Kaif Raza Khan Qadri

Hello Sir,

Sir please create an article about Muhammed Kaif Raza Khan Qadri. There is many sources available about him.

Thank You. Kaifraza786 (talk) 16:30, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help me on this article how to avoid Speedy Deletion. Kaifraza786 (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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