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Accolades

Hi, WandaVision won an award at the "Clio Awards" and two awards at the "Sec Awards", could someone please add them? --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the Sec Awards do not have their own Wikipedia article, they aren't considered notable for inclusion. do you have a source for the Clio Award WandaVision won? I didn't find anything. —El Millo (talk) 06:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Too bad that the "Sec Awrds" are not taken into account, this is the source of the "Clio Award" (https://clios.com/music/winner/93473) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 06:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello me again, today the Irish Film & Television Awards were held and Jim O'Hagan and Ed Bruce were nominated by WandaVision in the VFX category, they did not win, so someone could add your nomination please.--Jeremy0818 (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 02:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Wandavision has 5 Dorian Awards nominations. The nominations are credited on IMDB and the Dorian Awards itself has a wikipedia page. I hope someone add them. (https://deadline.com/2021/06/pose-wandavision-galeca-lgbtq-critics-dorian-tv-award-nominations-1234777545/) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CocoBrei835 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 20:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, I have seen that they added several nominations with the result of "pending" so I wanted to say that WandaVision has 4 nominations in the Gold Derby Awards and in the Golden Trailer Awards, just in case someone wants to add them.
-(https://www.goldderby.com/feature/2021-gold-derby-tv-awards-nominations-list-1204332987/)
-(https://goldentrailer.com/gta21-nominees/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot, it also has a nomination in the MTV Millennial Awards under the category Killer TV Series --Jeremy0818 (talk) 22:55, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done and  Done. —El Millo (talk) 23:25, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, WandaVision won at the MTV Millennial Awards, could someone change it from pending to winner please? --Jeremy0818 (talk) 16:51, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If someone might need the reference, here. (https://trome.pe/celebrities/mtv-en-vivo-miaw-2021-fecha-horario-cuando-es-como-votar-por-artistas-nominado-lista-de-categorias-mtv-millenial-awards-ver-online-transmision-resultados-en-directo-danna-paola-rauw-alejandro-mexico-noticia/) --CocoBrei835 (talk) 05:26, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done —El Millo (talk) 05:42, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, today the TCA Awards nominations came out and WandaVision got four (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/2021-tca-awards-nominations-list-ted-lasso-wandavision-1235020447/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 19:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added —El Millo (talk) 20:01, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Could you add that WandaVision was nominated in the Best Adaptation from Comic Book / Graphic Novel category at the Harvey Awards, Loki's series was also nominated in the same category if you like to add it, Thank you very much. (https://www.comicsbeat.com/2021-harvey-awards-nominees-revealed-and-voting-is-now-open/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 01:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 02:32, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Actress Teyonah Parris has a nomination at the Black Reel TV Awards, and WandaVision has two nominations at the International Online Cinema Awards (The International Online Cinema Awards do not have a wiki page but I have seen that sometimes they are added as in Fifty Shades Darker (film), mother!, List of awards and nominations received by Anya Taylor-Joy and many more). The Falcon and The Winter Soldier series also has nominations at the Black Reel TV Awards and the International Online Cinema Awards, Thank you so much.
-(https://m.imdb.com/event/ev0004817/2021/1)
-(https://www.imdb.com/event/ev0003084/2021/1?ref_=ttawd_ev_6) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 23:18, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

plus Added Black Reel Awards. The International Online Cinema Awards don't have an article and I haven't found they've been reported by main outlets, so it is not notable for inclusion. —El Millo (talk) 00:07, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since it keeps changing, can we please settle on one order for the accolades table? I feel it should be by date of ceremony, then in the sourced category order, then alphabetically by nominee (though by episode if there is one is also fine). - adamstom97 (talk) 23:51, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you are referring to the order of the Emmys, I initially put it in the order in which it was in the official file that's used as a reference. Someone else came and reordered it, apparently on perceived "relevance" for them. —El Millo (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am referring to the order changing in general, but I haven't been checking all the diffs and just saw the back-and-forth in edit summaries. Just wanted to make sure the order we are using makes sense. - adamstom97 (talk) 00:00, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't make any further edits to change the Emmy order as it is now. Regarding the order in general, we should stick to ceremony date, until most or almost all awards have been given, then we'll change to alphabetical order by Award name as we commonly do. —El Millo (talk) 00:05, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WandaVision won The ReFrame Stamp -(https://deadline.com/2021/07/reframe-tv-stamp-recipients-wandavision-bridgerton-lovecraft-country-pose-1234796290/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 06:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added this in prose at the top of the section since it isn't really an award to be won like those in the table. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:11, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the winners of the Golden Trailer Awards have already been announced, someone could change it please. -(https://goldentrailer.com/gta21-winners/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 05:18, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 06:10, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision and Loki are nominated in the BreakTudo Awards, someone add them please? -(https://www.breaktudoawards.com/aqui-estao-os-indicados-do-breaktudo-awards-2021/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 02:41, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The award's article is currently nominated for deletion, so it's best to wait until that's finished. —El Millo (talk) 03:18, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination for deletion has been closed as delete, so we won't be adding it. —El Millo (talk) 07:39, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, the Gold Derby Awards have already announced their date for August 18, and also Christophe Beck and Natalie Holt are nominated in the World Soundtrack Awards for WandaVision and Loki, in case anyone likes to add them, Thank you very much. -(https://www.goldderby.com/article/2021/gold-derby-tv-awards-winners-voting-deadline/) -(https://www.worldsoundtrackawards.com/news/discover-the-first-nominees-for-the-21st-world-soundtrack-awards) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 17:57, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. —El Millo (talk) 18:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision received a nomination at the TV Choice Awards in the Best Family Drama category. -(https://www.bauermedia.co.uk/newsroom/press-releases/tv-choice-awards-2021-shortlist-nominations-announced) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —El Millo (talk) 19:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, WandaVision and The Falcon and the Winter soldier recived nominations at the Online Film & Television Association Awards, could these awards be added? The Daredevil series does have them credited. -(http://www.oftaawards.com/television-awards/25th-annual-tv-awards-2020-21/) --Jeremy0818 (talk) 03:20, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

These awards seem not to pass the threshold for notability, as they do not have a Wikipedia article of their own. —El Millo (talk) 17:24, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Awards split

Hey everyone, I've noticed that this article is quite lengthy (~73 kB prose size), putting it into the range where a split might be warranted. I think the awards list in particular can be moved out; it currently takes up three and a half "screens" of height on my monitor, and I suspect there will be some end-of-year awards that expand the list further. (It's also worth noting that the prose size doesn't take tables into account, so the list makes the article even longer than it first appears.) Therefore, I am proposing a split of that section to List of awards and nominations received by WandaVision. Thoughts? RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:09, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't considered this when we started talking about trying to reduce the article size because it isn't yet at the size that I feel like other awards tables are when they get split off, and because it won't help with the readable prose size (it will actually increase it a little when we replace the table with a short prose summary). But, it would help with the general page size that is not reflected in the readable page size, and I agree that there will likely be more awards to add over the coming months, so I'm not against it. Interested to hear what others think. - adamstom97 (talk) 04:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
RunningTiger123, wouldn't be opposed to it. I think the only major industry award left would be SAG + guilds it didn't qualify for during its initial run back in the beginning of the year, which'll happen January-ish. The page is definitely fairly long and the table would only help with actual length rather than prose size, but I'm not opposed. QueerFilmNerdtalk 06:22, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The guild awards are exactly what I was thinking about – there are a few guilds that seem quite likely to nominate the show (VFX, art direction, costumes, etc.). I also wouldn't be surprised if a few more popular awards come up, particularly the People's Choice Awards. RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:03, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have the same feelings as Adamstom.97 that it will help with page length, but not actual prose size. Facu-el Millo as one of the editors working more on that table, what are your thoughts? - Favre1fan93 (talk) 13:18, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to say the table is not large enough for a split yet, but checking both List of accolades received by Avengers: Endgame and List of accolades received by The Avengers (2012 film), they seem to be about as long as this table, so it would be fine to split it as it currently is. One correction is that it should be at List of accolades received by WandaVision, to be consistent with the aforementioned lists and List of accolades received by Black Panther (film). —El Millo (talk) 17:09, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue it should be "awards and nominations" instead of "accolades"; the former seems to be the norm for TV shows, while the latter is used for films. RunningTiger123 (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But within the MCU set of articles, there should be consistency amongst the titles if possible, and in this case, it can be. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that we should be consistent with the other MCU articles, and this isn't the first time where we have walked the line a little bit in terms of following film vs. TV standards because of the way Marvel Studios made this like a long film. @Some Dude From North Carolina: having just reviewed the article for GA, do you have any thoughts on us splitting out the awards table to its own list? - adamstom97 (talk) 10:23, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would support a move since the article is a bit long. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 11:29, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be consensus for this split, so I have gone ahead and made the new list at List of accolades received by WandaVision based on the formatting for the other MCU accolades lists. - adamstom97 (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any awards that can be removed from the prose here and included in added "among others" text? I feel some are definitely more minor that aren't worth mentioning here while we now have the split article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:11, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We hadn't discussed that yet so I just put all of them in for now. I couldn't remember what criteria we used to determine that at other articles. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For the prose, I think Emmys should be the main focus, since those are the biggest awards in American television. (That part will probably be easier to write once the Emmys happen.) Past that, it's probably a matter of consensus, but I would generally emphasize guilds/professional orgs (i.e., the DGA and IFTA awards) and critics' awards (Dorian, HCA, TCA) over others. Major popular awards (i.e., the MTV awards) probably also deserve a mention. RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Are we happy with this? WandaVision was nominated for eight Primetime Emmy Awards and fifteen Primetime Creative Arts Emmy Awards, as well as one Directors Guild of America Award, seven Hollywood Critics Association TV Awards (winning two), one Irish Film & Television Award, six MTV Movie & TV Awards (winning four), and four TCA Awards, among others. - adamstom97 (talk) 21:29, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's good for now. If it wins any Emmys, we can probably specify those later. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:02, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - adamstom97 (talk) 22:12, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit War Prevention: Evan Peters role as Ralph Bohner vs "Pietro Maximoff"

@Lashana Lynch: There was a discussion about writing Evan Peters' role in the cast list (see here). For one thing, Ralph Bohner is an existing actual character in the Marvel Cinematic Universe world, hence the format of Peters' role in the cast list. The character's description already laid out him posing as "Pietro Maximoff" so no need to change Peters' main role into that and just keep Ralph Bohner as it is.

To avoid an edit war, kindly refrain from making changes without discussing it here. Thank you for your understanding. Centcom08 (talk) 22:58, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Centcom08: How do I discuss it here? The name Ralph Bohner was only used once, and he primarily portrayed him as "Pietro" under Agatha's control, really portraying Agatha speaking through him if anything. It makes more sense to say "Pietro Maximoff" up-top then mention his real name immediately below, the next sentence. Lashana Lynch (talk) 23:02, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To answer your question, kindly wait for other editors to respond to have a WP:CONSENSUS. Despite his name being only mentioned once, the writing of events in the fiction world (i.e. MCU world) remains that the actual character's existence is a resident of West View named Ralph Bohner. If the character returns in future installments then he will return as Ralph Bohner and not "Pietro Maximoff". Here are the sources that confirms Evan Peters' role is actually Ralph Bohner only posing as "Pietro Maximoff", which is already beautifully laid-out in the character description: 1, 2. Centcom08 (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's too confusing to have his credits swapped around from every other Westview resident in the list. - adamstom97 (talk) 09:23, 7 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dick Van Dyke show details

In the Writing §, under "Sitcom influences", it is claimed "... the first episode pays homage to The Dick Van Dyke Show, which ran from the late 1950s to the early 1960s, and was meant to have a general 1950s time period."

The source on this point is unreliable as to airdates, as the original pilot dates from 1960, while the show itself began airing in 1961.

The source, while incorrect about show run dates, does NOT claim that either The Dick Van Dyke Show or WandaVision is meant to represent the 1950s. To claim this is Original Research. Chaswmsday (talk) 00:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The first episode is set in the 50s, and the first two episodes were inspired by the Dick Van Dyke Show, so the content isn't entirely inaccurate, but it's already included elsewhere. —El Millo (talk) 03:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have updated the wording and source to hopefully address these concerns. - adamstom97 (talk) 03:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

RFC about what to refer to Wanda Maximoff as

Should Wanda Maximoff be referred to as Wanda or Mazimoff? JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wanda For real people, policy is very clear to refer to them by their last name opposed to their first name in the majority of situations. However, that policy has never supposed to apply to fictional characters. Sure, we can use it when there isn't a clear common name, but that isn't the case here. The character is referred to as just Wanda all the time and is extremely referred to as just Maximoff. The name of the show is literally WandaVision. The WP:COMNONNAME is extremely clearly Wanda over Maximoff. There is simply no reason to keep referring to her as Maximoff instead. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 14:50, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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