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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Panamitsu (talk | contribs) at 23:45, 27 October 2023 (Restricted Editing: Reply). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2023

Merrymirthful (talk) 04:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Change "single sex spaces" to single sex spaces. It's not something that should be put in quotations.

 Not done. It's in quotes because the party believes trans women are not women, but Wikipedia separates itself from that belief.-gadfium 04:34, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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This page contains inaccuracies. The Women's Rights Party NZ is not "transphobic". This is a slur used to silence women who call for accurate data collection on sex and a review of sex self identification in policy and legislation. Why has the editing function on this page been restricted? 6Bluedoves (talk) 19:55, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@6Bluedoves I have just removed it. I have not seen any source describe it this way so it appears to be WP:OR. If anyone could provide a source that would be great; older versions of this article did not have transphobia as a listed ideology. —Panamitsu (talk) 21:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that. The party supports full and open expression of gender and identity but defends the need for single sex spaces in prisons, refuges, rape crisis centres and sports to ensure fairness, dignity and safety for women and girls who make up 85% of victims of sexual assault - 98% of which are committed by male perpetrators. 6Bluedoves (talk) 21:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The page is still describing the party as transphobic. The page is generally written in a polemical tone with several defamatory statements. It omits major contextual information around the events that lead to the formation of the party after New Zealand effectively erased the identity of women by passing self-ID legislation giving any man the right to enter women and girls' private spaces. This is not controversial but a matter of record. I request permission to edit the page to remove the defamation and supply appropriate factual context. ChrisPook (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You appear to have an extreme interpretation of the law. For you to edit the article would not be appropriate.-gadfium 21:37, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's telling that you are hurling around accusations of extremism. I'm not hiding behind an anonymous identity here. I'm an actual scientist biologist with an interest in equity. The Womens' Rights Party was set up to advance the interests of an oppressed class and they are legally allowed to pursue those rights under the Human Rights Act 1993. Claiming that they are 'phobic for doing so is the extreme, misogynist position. 2404:4408:8786:600:B82:C3E2:8EF4:3319 (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Whoops. Didn't realise I wasn't logged in. Here's my reply to Gadfium: I think it's telling that you are hurling around accusations of extremism. I'm not hiding behind an anonymous identity here. I'm an actual scientist, a biologist, with an interest in equity. The Womens' Rights Party was set up to advance the interests of an oppressed class and they are legally allowed to pursue those rights under the Human Rights Act 1993. Claiming that they are 'phobic for doing so is the extreme, misogynist position. ChrisPook (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisPook How about if you want to make changes, you make edit requests in the talk page. As you have certain views, it may constitute a conflict of interest which may introduce bias (ignoring any potential bias on the article, I have not read it properly). —Panamitsu (talk) 22:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am trying to work out how to do that. It's not intuitive. ChrisPook (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just write in this talk page "change x to y", making sure to provide sources. —Panamitsu (talk) 23:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]