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Change: “The First Intifada, or First Palestinian Intifada (also known simply as the intifada or intifadah),[note 1] was a sustained series of Palestinian protests, and in some cases violent riots,[6] against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza that had begun twenty years prior, in 1967.[7] The intifada lasted from December 1987 until the Madrid Conference in 1991, though some date its conclusion to 1993, with the signing of the Oslo Accords.[8]” To: “The First Intifada, or First Palestinian Intifada (also known simply as the intifada or intifadah),[note 1] was a sustained series of Palestinian protests, and in some cases terrorist attacks and violent riots,[6] against the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza that had begun twenty years prior, in 1967.[7] The intifada lasted from December 1987 until the Madrid Conference in 1991, though some date its conclusion to 1993, with the signing of the Oslo Accords.[8]” YidChef323 (talk) 04:33, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To editor YidChef323:

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Thank you for your input! P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 10:18, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 May 2021

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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 06:55, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First Intifada → First Palestinian Intifada – Rename per WP:CONCISE there have been multiple events named Intifada in the Arab World over the past century. Specifically, the first events named Intifada were the 1952 Egyptian revolution and parallel Iraqi Intifada (1952). Later those were followed by Bahraini March Intifada in 1960s, the Sahrawi Zemla Intifada in 1970s, LEbanese February 6 Intifada in early 1980s (all being essentially "First Intifada"s) and only later in 1987 was the first Palestinian Intifada. Some sources which utilize the term "First Intifada" deal specifically with the Israeli-Palestinian event in retrospective and hence drop "Palestinian" from the term, while during the event itself it was rather branded "the Palestinian Intifada", the the "87 Intifada" - same as sources dealing with World War I referred to it as "the World War". It is certainly not the "First Intifada", but rather only in the Palestinian context. GreyShark (dibra) 09:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 02:47, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - note that the Second Palestinian Intifada article is now at Al-Aqsa Intifada renamed to this title in 2019, now proposed for another title discussion.GreyShark (dibra) 09:29, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't now. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support It is true there have been others, so First is not very precise. It's an aka anyway.Selfstudier (talk) 09:59, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - The full term "First Palestinian Intifada" is not very common. I don't believe the extra disambiguation is necessary: the first couple of pages of a Google Scholar search for "first intifada" all refer to the Palestinian intifada and not any other. Rublov (talk) 12:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I concur with Rublov. This seems like a case for disambiguation, but only as a hatnote on this article. — Goszei (talk) 17:45, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. Rreagan007 (talk) 03:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Second Palestinian Intifada redirects to Second Intifada. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose by far the primary topic for this, I'm unaware of a single other thing called the first intifada except for the first time by a user on this talk page. That somebody thinks some other event is essentially a "First Intifada", what matters is that sources nearly uniformly refer to the First Intifada as the First Intifada. nableezy - 15:12, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change "The impact on the Israeli services sector, including the important Israeli tourist industry, was notably negative." to "While filled with suffering and terror, the First Intifada became beneficial to the Palestinians. It solidified a clear and focused national consciousness for Palestine and the peoples need for statehood. The First Intifada brought a negative light to Israel on the world stage as many witnessed the horrors the Israeli Forces were capable of in trying to maintain their political legitimacy. The conflict also cost Israel hundreds of millions of dollars in lost tourism and imports."

^[1] Stitch2016 (talk) 04:15, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: This language seems to violate WP:NPOV. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:25, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Pierpaoli, Paul G., Jr. "Intifada, First." The Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: A Political, Social, and Military History, edited by Spencer C. Tucker and Priscilla Roberts, vol. 2, ABC-CLIO, 2008, pp. 472-474. Gale eBooks. Accessed 2022.

Casus belli

In the introduction it is written "an Israeli Defense Forces' (IDF) truck collided with a civilian car, killing four Palestinian workers", but I don't see any reference that says that the truck was indeed one of the IDF. If it was an IDF's truck indeed, a reference saying so is, in my opinion, much needed. Otherwise, it would be good to edit this part out. Thank you Nausicaasbel (talk) 14:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to Israeli truck driver per sources. Selfstudier (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Typo

Should "civi disobedience" be "civil disobedience" in the introduction? Quittle (talk) 14:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Pierpaoli, Paul G., Jr. "Intifada, First." The Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict: A Political, Social, and Military History, edited by Spencer C. Tucker and Priscilla Roberts, vol. 2, ABC-CLIO, 2008, pp. 472-474. Gale eBooks. Accessed 2022.

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