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October 15

Doing Something Wrong

I am a new editor and I am apparently doing something wrong because I can not get my new listings to appear. I put a listing in for the Author Frank w Bennett about a month ago. When I go into my history I can see my entry in a long list of entries that have not yet been added to Wikipedia. I don't know if this is the sandbox that they talk about! Anyhow, I am clearly doing something wrong because my listings never appear and I have no idea why. Can someone please help me.

Thanks, Newyorkmets86 01:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Steve

Hello, I've replied on your talk page! Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 01:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Clear watchlist

I'm wondering what will happen if I hit 'Clear watchlist'? Is it going to clear all the pages I tagged to watch, or will it just clear the most recent changes from the watchlist screen? Jeff Dahl 02:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jeff, clearing your watchlist will permanently remove all the pages in the list, they cannot be later retrieved. If you click on the 'Clear Watchlist' button it will explain the process (clicking that link will not automatically clear the list, it will ask you for a confirmation). There is no way to clear an individual notification from a watchlist. Cheers, meshach 02:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't want to try experimenting and end up losing all my watched pages! Jeff Dahl 02:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

possesiveness

04:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)~what do you mean by possessiveness?

You are probably looking for wikt:possessiveness. Best, PeaceNT 04:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

On the slim chance that you are asking a garbled question about who owns articles on Wikipedia, see our WP:OWN guideline. --Teratornis 16:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Missing Image:Ant worker morphology corrected.svg

Where has Image:Ant worker morphology corrected.svg gone? — PhilHibbs | talk 08:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• I think it was renamed. I've asked another admin with more experience regarding this image for details. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Image:Ant worker morphology corrected.svg was renamed to Image:Scheme ant worker anatomy-en.svg, but not all of the links were changed yet here on Wikipedia. They all have been fixed now. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 11:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

An article I created may be deleted if i do not quote a reliable source

Hello. Wikipedia has flagged an article I created for deletion unless reliable sources are quoted. I believe I did cite sources - including two internation publications, Film Score Monthly and Soundtrack. A friend of the person I wrote about is also a journalist with an entry on Wiki (with barely any text and the same type of sources as I have cited) has not been flagged for deletion. Please advise.

Thank you.

Saxplayer67 09:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. I could see you are referring to Dirk Wickenden. Of the two external links you cited, the Myspace one is a self published source, which is considered to be unreliable, and the other is a trivial source about the subject. The article currently needs third-party sources, otherwise it will be deleted. You still have time to improve the article, though, since the tag on this page is not a speedy deletion tag. Please see also WP:V for more information. I hope this helps PeaceNT 09:19, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

In the meantime you could copy your article to WikiBios, which accepts biographies of anyone, without the bother of Wikipedia's notability requirements. Also see wikiindex:Category:People and wikiindex:Category:Music for other wikis you could try. --Teratornis 16:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing Company Profile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeen_Asset_Management

I'm trying to update my companies profile to update the figure corresponding to our assets under management. I'm not sure if the page has been protected or not. I can't see it in the protected or semi protected list of pages.

Emmabe 09:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest before proceeding in editing the page. ~ Sebi _[talk] 09:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

For the record, the page is currently not protected. PeaceNT 09:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Also note that you can create and edit another copy of your company profile on Wikicompany without conflict-of-interest restrictions. See wikiindex:Category:Business for additional wikis where you may promote your company. If you are trying to get your company noticed, you might as well put it on all the wikis that want it. --Teratornis 16:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

complete article

how can I complete an article about gichd or even create a new one (the old one is correct but definitely too short)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gichd (talk • contribs) 09:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about Geneva International Centre for Humanitarian Demining (redirected from GICHD),when an article already exists, you just need to click the edit this page tab right at the top of the article to expand it. Please also be aware of WP:COI. I hope this helps. PeaceNT 10:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

strategic implimentation in logistics

Discuss the factors essential for succesful strategic implimentation and the problems experienced in strategy implimentation showing the critical processes involved in accomplishing a strategic impli —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.199.28.108 (talk) 10:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• Please read the instructions at the top of the page. We do not answer homework essay questions. Questions that are not about editing Wikipedia belong on the reference desk. Also, your chances of getting an answer to any question increase exponentially if you say 'please' and spellcheck your question before you submit it. It's also a good idea to ask your question just once. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Move page button

Hi,

The Move page button is not visible to me. How can I see it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Internationalstudent (talk • contribs) 11:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

It becomes visible when your account is 4 days old which is required to move pages. Before that you can request a move here or at Wikipedia:Requested moves. PrimeHunter 11:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

trivia and popular culture

I strongly suggest wikipedia start a new wikiproject for trivia and popular culture references. I know the official policy is to incorporate the trivia sections into the main text of the article, but personally, my favorite wiki/websurfing activity is to read the trivia sections of articles. I find so many fascinating odds and ends and tidbits of information. Plus, the trivia section has so many interesting links to other wiki articles. Occasionally I revisit an article only to find the whole trivia section removed. That always makes me sad. I wonder how many articles I've visited and never got to read the trivia section. I check the history but it rarely says "trivia section removed." It just says "cleanup."

Anyway, just a thought I wanted to pass on to someone or at least release it into the ether of wiki and the internet.Ozmaweezer 11:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

There is Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia Cleanup where contributors may have different preferences for handling trivia. New WikiProjects can be suggested at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals, but a WIkiProject shouldn't have the goal to go against established policies and guidelines. Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia was apparently created by one editor without discussion and deleted at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia. Trivia guidelines are discussed at Wikipedia talk:Trivia sections. See also Wikipedia:Handling trivia which is only an essay. PrimeHunter 12:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Could someone at least pass on my trivia and popular culture question (see above) to someone who makes these types of decisions? Or maybe wikipedia should have a suggestion box or a poll for ideas like this that people can vote on and users could view the results. Thanks.Ozmaweezer 11:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has many "suggestion boxes" for ideas like this. :) As PrimeHunter pointed out to you, you can propose a project at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals or you can discuss the way trivia is currently handled at Wikipedia talk:Trivia sections. You may also choose to discuss it at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). As this is your suggestion, it's probably best that you pass it on yourself at one of those places. I imagine that other editors may want to discuss your ideas with you directly. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Can not send or resive e mail

please help i can not send or resive my emails since my pc has been for repaire —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.92.67.74 (talk) 12:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. I suggest giving more details like operating system, mail program, what happens when you try to send a mail, does your Internet connection work in your browser. PrimeHunter 13:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Securing my Article

Hi, I want to create an article and give security to it ie., giving access permissions to some user names only. Can i do that using WIKI?

Regards, Dhinakaran —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhina.techno (talk • contribs) 13:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. :) I'm afraid that you can't. When you edit Wikipedia, you are releasing the content to be freely modified by anyone under the Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License. Under the notes at the very bottom of the edit page, you will see the warning that "If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed for profit by others, do not submit it". --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Is your question about Wikipedia or another wiki using MediaWiki software? If it's the latter then see mw:Extension:PageSecurity. PrimeHunter 14:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

'TWAS A PLEASANT SURPRISE...

'Twas a pleasant surprise to find the José Bernal article "posted" when I returned to try -once again- to add the label/caption on the black & white photo I hope improves the visual appearance of the page. Hopefully the "posting" is an indication that the article is being considered to be permanently posted soon. If that is the case, I wish to thank all of the contributors who have been of assistance and have made it possible. Then -also- I wish to take this opportunity to inquire about how to successfully label the B & W portrait photograph: José Bernal in 1950. I was able to do so when the photograph was uploaded in its "thumb" scale; but, that proportion within the article did not harmonize w/the visual balance of the other images. So, I increased the proportion to "225 px," but -then- the caption disappeared. At this point, I can not imagine what to do. Will someone instruct me as to how to proceed??? It would be wonderful to be able to accomplish this task. I am sincerely grateful to all of you!!! --Labs1950 13:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Labs1950

The caption is displayed now by using both thumb and size.[1] PrimeHunter 13:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Category-class articles

Hola. I am active in WP:Fire Service and am trying to create a category for Category-class pages, of which there are many in the project. I can not figure out why no articles are showing up on the created page as being classed as Category even though I have classed at least 10 of them. Please see:

• [[Category:Category-Class Fire service articles]] - the created page
• [[Category:Unassessed Fire service articles]] - where the Category talk pages are being listed even after being classed

Please let me know if you have any questions and thanks for your help!--Daysleeper47 14:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Could you please explain more clearly what you are trying to do here? --Orange Mike 14:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you trying to get this edit to add the page to Category:Category-Class Fire service articles? PrimeHunter 14:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, that is what I am trying to do. It works for the other classes (stub, start, etc) within this WP. Any ideas where I am going wrong for Category-class and why the articles will not list within the category space? I have classified at least 10 category talk pages as being "Category-class" but they aren't listing. Thanks!--Daysleeper47 16:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not a template coder but it appears {{WikiProjectFireService}} doesn't have code for class=category or class=cat like some other WikiProject templates do. The template has to be edited to know your wanted parameter and category. You can request help at Wikipedia:Requested templates or try looking at one of the similar templates with the wanted functionality, for example (randomly selected) Template:RollerCoasterProject. PrimeHunter 20:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

The use of Imperial measurements vs SI units

How come almost every article in Wikipedia uses both oldfasioned and obsolete imperial measurement units instead of the internationally recommended SI units?

I'm danish and we connverted to the metric system in 1907. The inch, pound or gallon means absolutely nothing to me, but is only confusing. A search on wikipedia also states that only the US, Liberia and Myanmar does not use the metric /SI system. As they represent approx 350 million people out of 6,5 billon its baffeling that they can set the standard for measuremets units on the world biggest (and best?) encyclopedia.

The point of my rantings? Discontinue the use of imperial measuremets - your only keeping a flaved and obsolete system alive.

Best regards

Michael Foscolo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.161.86.168 (talk) 14:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

This is the English-language Wikipedia. Unfortunately, a lot of American readers are still ignorant of SI; thus, we use both systems here. --Orange Mike 14:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:UNITS. PrimeHunter 14:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

It could be far worse, and in the future it should far better. Someday, Web browsers will be smart enough to present just the version of the World Wide Web that each user prefers to see, converting languages, dialects, units of measurement, etc., as necessary, and removing all content that offends the user. In the meantime, you might find the Danish Wikipedia more to your liking, although it is much smaller at ca. 70,000 articles (or should that be 70.000?) to the English Wikipedia's 6,938,111 articles. If you speak German, try the German Wikipedia which is very respectable in size and growing rapidly. In the meantime, you can convert many common units with Google Search, for example:

• google:12 pounds in kilograms =
• google:273.2 miles in kilometers =
• google:44 gallons in liters =
  • Unfortunately, to make the above links work, you have to click on them to open the Google search form pre-filled with the unit conversion expression to evaluate, and then click the "Search" button to run the search a second time. Something about the way MediaWiki's interwiki link code constructs the initial search URL confuses Google until you click the "Search" button. You won't have this problem if you type a unit conversion expression into Google yourself. And maybe there is some browser add-on which provides automatic mouseover unit conversions (there has to be, right?).

And speaking of flawed and obsolete systems, why does Europe cling to so many different languages? Why not just pick one? European economies must expend vast amounts of overhead to translate information from one language to another. --Teratornis 16:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

• If so many articles use imperial units, it's probably because they were written by Americans or other people who typically use those units. Feel free to add conversions. You could also use a browser add on to have them added automatically (I have one in Firefox). - 131.211.210.12 08:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• I fully agree with Michael Foscolo - Wikipedia should use SI-units, but I was under impression that it usually does. I think most of the science articles do. I believe it would be a good to at least provide SI equivalent to any non-SI quantity you find on the wikipedia. --Jarekt (from US) 21:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Isn't that just wishful thinking? Isn't it better to describe the world in those units that someone understands rather than enforcing a diktat? We haven't had a vote on this so why should an English language Wiki conform to the expressed needs of non-native English speakers or would you prefer that the entire Wiki project was conducted in Mandarin? The US uses imperial measures, as do most of the population of the UK in their everyday lives. Surely it's better that articles are accessible and comprehensible to the majority of their readers. I live in Finland and despite the SI units' predominance here people still buy wood in thicknesses of tummat or 'thumbs', better known to myself as inches, theri horses and ponies are also measured in hands. Shall we impose a standard on people, regardless of usage and custom? Jatrius 13:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be good if Wikipedia could come up with some standard for this type of thing. E.g. standardise on metric with imperial in brackets for the benefit of those folk not yet in the 21st century. Macrae dj (talk) 13:37, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Sample layout rearranging

Can you help me rearrange this sample layout so that the Featured list section appears next to the featured picture section at the bottom.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I have fiddled with it a bit. I only need someone to remove the extra borders in both the picture and list section.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

O.K. I think I got it myself.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Glad we could be of help.. :) ssepp^(talk) 21:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking pictures to article (Mission Raceway Park)

your caption goes here

How do I link a photo I have uploaded to an article? Under the article there is no image and it asked me if i wanted to upload an immage, which I did. I can't figure out how to load this image or link it back to the article (Mission Raceway Park).

Thanks Malcolm Muir (wikipedia ID mjmuir)

Maple Ridge, BC Canada —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjmuir (talk • contribs) 19:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Adding an image to a page is mostly the same as adding a link to another article - enclose the image's file name in double square brackets, like this: [[Image:Example.jpg]]. In articles, it is usually preferred that you add a caption to the picture; to do that, use this form instead: [[Image:Example.jpg|thumb|your caption goes here]] This creates a smaller version of the image within a frame, as you see at right. For more information, see Help:Images. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please note also that all images you upload MUST have information on the source of the image and what license it should be under. The images you have uploaded do not have this information, and will be deleted in two days if it is not provided. If you took the pictures yourself, please make that clear on the image page and add one of these license codes to the page: {{PD-self}} to release it into the public domain, {{GFDL-self}} to release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, or {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} to release it under a Creative Commons license. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

article on D-Day

There is some vandalism in the article about D-Day. A reference at the beginning, refering to the Battle of Normandy, has been removed and replaced with the word "hi". I looked at the history page to see if I could figure out how to fix it (thinking I might do it in one revert) but it looks like that won't work.

I am quite new at this, so I decided to ask someone to fix this.

Thank you. --Phillicia Cattertails 19:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for reporting the problem with the D-Day article. It looks like another user fixed it. For some strange reason, that article seems to be attracting vandals lately. --Teratornis 20:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Brian Peppers

I went to create a page for Brian Peppers and it is protected. How can I get it unprotected so I can make a page. This is a popular meme Pilotbob 19:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I wouldn't try. Here's a link: [2]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndyJones (talk • contribs) 19:31, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that whole discussion is silly. I probably shouldn't bring it up because I might get banned by the wikinazi's, but there should be a real discussion that is not censored and stopped early because the admins don't like it. Pilotbob —Preceding comment was added at 19:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, how do I bring an artical up for deletion review when the artical has been protected??? Pilotbob 19:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please refrain from using words like 'wikinazis'. ssepp^(talk) 21:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Since almost all activities of a deletion review take place at deletion review, not in the article, not being able to edit the article should not be a serious impairment on your ability to start a deletion review. I don't think it would do much good in this case though, Brian Peppers has been discussed ad nauseam. ssepp^(talk) 21:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOU, PRIME HUNTER FOR YOUR LESSON...

Prime Hunter, thank you for your lesson of 13:46, 15 Oct 2007 (edit) (undo). You did the task and -by doing so- you taught me me how it is done. I appreciate it greatly. --Labs1950 19:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)Labs1950

You're welcome. PrimeHunter 20:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Entering my book of Pubs of Loughborough, Leics, UK through your medium

I have written an Email detailing my comments re above but I am getting a message saying your Email address is not recognised. Can you help

regards

Bill Wells —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.174.151.141 (talk) 19:37, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

This is the help desk for the encyclopedia Wikipedia. People usually don't use email to contact Wikipedia and I don't know what you refer to. PrimeHunter 23:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

photoes

how to brows a photoes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.176.41.190 (talk) 19:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

You can search for photos at Wikimedia Commons. ssepp^(talk) 20:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

contents

how do you make a contents box

--X Gui 19:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

If you are referring to a Table of Contents, one will automatically appear on any page with more 3 or more section headers (this is the default and can be changed in your preferences). No editing other commands are necessary to generate the TOC. There are several magic words you can use to manipulate the default TOC options and force then to override user preferences. If that's not what you meant, can you be more specific? Leebo ^T/C 20:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

?????

have you got a box to write what we want to write about —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.42.195 (talk) 20:38, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

You can create a new article by typing the name in the search box, clicking on 'go', and (if it does not exist yet) clicking on 'create this page'. You should familiarize yourself with the policies first, for instance by reading Wikipedia:Your first article. ssepp^(talk) 21:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh, my Wikipedia view is messed up :(

The site looks really funky, like it went back in time by a few years. The tabs are gone too :(

I have this error in Firefox for each page I load :

Error: addOnloadHook is not defined Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&useskin=monobook Line: 104 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.248.55.152 (talk) 21:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Might be a cache problem... ssepp^(talk) 21:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Woohoo, thanks that worked!! 4.248.57.21 21:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Watching KTVE news on line from Kentucky

I would like to know how to watch the current news on line in Kentucky. My mother is from West Monroe, and would like to watch the news from the West Monroe, Louisiana viewing area. Is that possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.51.204.131 (talk) 21:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please scroll to the top of this page and read the box with the text in red letters. Then you might want to follow the link to the reference desk provided there. ssepp^(talk) 21:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

We have a nice article about KTVE, which even mentions the slogan: "Coverage You Can Count On." But I guess not if you are in Kentucky. Many television stations have Web sites which provide some video clips. You could try browsing around KTVE's site and see if you can find any video clips to watch over the Interwebs. --Teratornis 03:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

If nothing else, your mother could read the text versions of KTVE news stories on their site. --Teratornis 03:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Blog links

Could somebody actually tell me why links to blog pages are not permitted, even if that blog contains facts and/or images that are of direct relevance and interest relative to the Wikipedia aricle? There has been quite a lot of negative press in my home country (the UK) about Wikipedia being policed by people who follow their own agendas entirely, and that it is becoming unsustainable as a project.

Why is such an arbitrary rule as "no blogs" made regardless of whether the content is relevant or not? I cannot believe that the factual accuracy of every linked document in checked. Why would a blog be any different? I am so saddened to see Wikipedia become an ego-trip for some people, the private domain of a clique that will not allow anything that does not fit it with their own personal agenda. It was such a grand design and so exciting. It has become so petty, it's a shame. Thanks all the same! WS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.250.24 (talk) 21:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

There does not seem to be a rule against linking to blogs, it is only discouraged. I assume this is because blogs typically provide opinions (as opposed to facts), and can normally not be considered a reliable source. ssepp^(talk) 22:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

You started out well. It seemed like you wanted information in earnest. Then we read the second part of your post and see that was a pretext to launch into a screed, upbraiding us collectively before any answer is given. Please grind axe elsewhere.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:14, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Perfect, you have just confirmed all the reports I have been reading about Wikipedia and its editors. As for my "diatribe" (you are so quaint, a "screed") it is good to see any criticism whatsoever of Wikipedia, however unaggressively phrased, taken to heart by people like you. You are a wonderful, wonderful example of everything Wikipedia should not be but has become. "Please grind axe elsewhere". What planet are you, may I ask? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.250.24 (talk) 13:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the Help Desk. Feel free to ask questions about using Wikipedia. ssepp^(talk) 17:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about copyright

Hi,

My name is Mia and I work with Bad Boy Records. I would like to update the information for the artists on our label, preferably by using the biographies we currently have on our websites. How do I go about doing this to ensure I have accurate information from our company while adhering to copyright laws? Please let me know what steps I need to take so that I may begin editing our artists' information.

Thank you,

Mia <personal infoirmation removed>—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bad Boy Entertainment (talk • contribs) 21:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Mia. We strongly discourage those with a conflict of interest from editing articles about subjects in which they have a vested interest. That being said, information in articles should be added with citation to independent, reliable sources. Regardless of whether your site is reliable, it certainly isn't independent, so any information added should cite to a third party source. As to copyright, you must not use infringing text from your site unless you release the material under a free license, such as the GFDL. This means you would have to release the information by, for example, including on your site the statement "I, (name), am the author of this article, (article name), and I release its content under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 and later." Many people find this counterintuitive--"why can't I just give permission for the material to be posted here if I own the copyright?" The answer is that all information on Wikipedia must be able to be redistributed by others.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

How to save (nicely!) Wikipedia page to disk ?

When I save entire page to disk in Firefox or IE, then (differ to other,non Wiki page) saved page diffs from online original; not has left margin and has other attributs (no css?) How make identical page on disk as page pnline? (sorry for my English) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Borneq (talk • contribs) 22:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

If you only need the text then just copy and paste the article into word and save it on a disc there. ~ Bella Swan 22:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2007_August_28#How_to_save_to_local_disk_with_skin.3F. ssepp^(talk) 22:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

replying to a message

Im not a registered user, however i see a message to me asking for a more indepth explanation of a paragraph that I responded to. I see no 'reply' button, nor do i see the users IP. any help would be appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.89.8 (talk) 22:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

It seems they did not sign. Using the 'history' (top of the screen) I was able to tell that text was written by User:Desakaio. You can reply on User talk:Desakaio. Alternatively, you can edit your talk page and add your reply, but that way Desakaio will not get a 'new message' alert. ssepp^(talk) 22:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleted image, public domain, no issues, but gone

Image:Sepulveda Blvd Los Angeles from the air has been deleted, I cannot find a deletion discussion and there seems to me to have been no reason to delete it. Can someone help me find the deletion discussion? I want to use it in the article Photogrammetry. Thanks for your help. User:Pedant 22:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you looking for Image:Sepulveda Blvd Los Angeles from the air.jpeg? You need to include the .jpeg ssepp^(talk) 22:48, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

It appears you also forgot .jpeg in the comment for Image:In-N-Out from Image Sepulveda Blvd Los Angeles from the air.png. PrimeHunter 22:58, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Help Desk questions missing from archive

I am looking for the answer to a question I asked here between October 1 and October 9. This page has no questions dated earlier than October 9. The Help Desk Archive has no questions dated later than September 30. Where can I find answers to questions asked between these two dates? Marco polo 22:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/October 2007. ssepp^(talk) 22:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I looked in your contributions and found Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 October 4#Finding articles where I can help most. PrimeHunter 23:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

I can see why you couldn't find the archive. It seems the archive links at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives had 'run out of months'. I've added links for some months to come. ssepp^(talk) 23:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I lock an article from being edited?

How do I do this. The Kelvin Sampson article needs to be locked until the situation has been fully disclosed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heismanhoosier (talk • contribs) 23:17, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Only administrators can protect pages from being edited. To request a page's protection, see WP:RPP. In this case, the article does not warrant protection, as only two edits have been made in the last two months. If it were being actively vandalized, then it may require protection. More information on Wikipedia's protection policy is available at WP:PROTECT. Shadow1 (talk) 23:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Naming a biographical article where two people of note share the same name.

I wish to create an article for noted special make-up effects artist James Cummins. There is already an article with the name James Cummins who is an American poet. I assume I should create a disambiguation page. How do I go about doing this?

To illustrate my point, on "The Boneyard" article page, writer and director James Cummins' name is repeatedly linked to James Cummins the American poet. Obviously a mistake. James Cummins the effects artist cannot be linked to because a page cannot be created using his name.

Help! --Poppix 23:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguations pages are generally for 3+ items with the same name. For this instance, a hatnote would suffice, placed at the top of each article, directing readers to the other article if that is what they intended. As for naming, if you know it, simply use the person's middle initial in the title to differentiate. If you don't know the person's middle initial, it may be best to have someone move the current article to James Cummins (poet). Hope that helps! Ariel♥Gold 00:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

October 16

Article Lake Garda

In the Article Lake Garda the first picture (in the box) don't shows the Lake Garda. It shows the Lake Como. Look only at the boathouse in front of the picture. Sorry for my bad english. --62.226.6.216 01:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• A fellow editor covered this. He replaced the image with another one. - 131.211.210.12 08:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

How can I make Wikipedia (or other MediaWiki sites) add page content when certain URLs are added to the page?

Problem: on pages where I'm adding links to an external book service, I'm getting a lot of questions from other users on how to sign up for the service. Unfortunately when they click through the URLs directly to the service, it doesn't give them any indication of where to go if they aren't already subscribed.

I'd like to automatically include a "sidebar", References link or some other recognizable callout, so that on any page where one of these URLs appear, there will also appear instructions like "Having trouble accessing the subscription content at the external links? Please go [here] to sign up."

I've experimented with Templates and they're helpful when I can visit the pages and manually insert the Template tag. However, I'd like to avoid having to track down all such pages as they're added by colleagues, strangers, etc - I'd just like the Wiki server to do this as soon as the page contains one of these URLs.

I.E. I'd like this "automation" to be able to recognize when the page contains a URL with one or more specific FQDNs, and to automatically append this "sidebar" text to the page's content. [I'd even be happy to generate the Template that would contain the inserted text.]

Request: can anyone tell me whether there's an extensibility capability in Wikipedia (or the MediaWiki software) that would allow me to do this -- _without_ having administrative privileges on the server? I'm hoping there's something similar to Templates, that the end user can create themselves, that would allow this kind of "auto-append" to work.

Thanks for any tips or hints you might have.--ParanoidMike 01:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe so, however you can search on the Mediawiki site. In general, however, it's discouraged to add sources to articles that require subscriptions, as it's more difficult for users to verify that information and may not be helpful to people researching that topic.

Note also that if you're asking how to do this on an external Wiki, we can only offer help with the English Wikipedia. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 01:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Mothballing

Is there a way to mothball, or freeze, pages? I currently have a number of pages on my watchlist for which I can not think of any legitmate reason to require a change, such as

• past mediation cases in which I was the mediator;
• archives of my talk pages;
• simple templates in my userspace.

I only keep them on the watchlist to protect them from vandalism. I would be happy if I could shorten my watchlist. Would asking for page protection be appropriate in these cases, or is there a better way? (Ideally I would like to protect and unprotect pages in my userspace myself.) — Sebastian 02:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You've been here for quite a while, so if you know all of this, forgive me and skip to the end, but I'll add it for others to read who may not know the information: Page protection not done just to "freeze" a page because it appears to be "complete". Articles are an ever-changing thing, fluid and flexible, and this is part of what makes Wikipedia great; that millions of people can come together to improve information. What you may think requires no additional work, may be assisted by someone else by helping with grammar or spelling or formatting, or any number of other changes. Protection is done in extreme cases of disruption or vandalism to a page, usually only as a last resort. Locking people out of editing goes against the very basic purpose of Wikipedia: An Encyclopedia everyone can edit. If you'd like to shorten your watchlist, you can simply move the items into a subpage, such as User:SebastianHelm/Watch. This is what I often do, and it is quite helpful in keeping the number of pages on my watchlist down to under 300 or so. However, with regards to the specific items you mention: You could request partial protection of your own subpages (archives, templates) if you wish, but if you were to request full protection, only administrators could edit them, so you could make no changes. Normally archives are not a frequent target for vandalism, nor are templates, so it seems like just adding them to a subpage to keep an eye on them may work though. And I don't know that mediation pages would be protected unless they were undergoing heavy vandalism. Ariel♥Gold 02:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I'm of course not asking for protection of articles; you're right in pointing out the good reasons why that wouldn't make sense. This is really only for pages that legitimately shouldn't change. Keeping them in a list (and using what links here) does indeed make the watchlist smaller, but that would be a Pyrrhic victory: Such a list not only has to be created and updated, but it requrires continuous monitoring. That would make things more complicated and increase work, instead of reducing it! — Sebastian 03:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

In general, archives and such will not be protected. They're not usually heavy targets for vandalism. The main motivation for vandals is that their "work" gets noticed and causes disruption - this isn't very likely for archives. The Protection Policy specifically states that semi-protection (and this can probably be extended to full protection as well) should and will never be used "As a preemptive measure against vandalism before any vandalism has occurred." I think you'd be safe removing the pages from your watchlist and just checking by them occasionally, if you really feel like you need to check them. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 04:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Hersfold! It's nice to meet you again! Thanks to both of you, at least I know now that I'm not overlooking anything. Well, nothing is perfect; and I probably couldn't justify a feature request for it - I can live with it. — Sebastian 06:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Also note that there are occasionally legitimate reasons for other users to edit your talk page archives; see User:Android Mouse Bot 4, for instance. --ais523 08:21, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

As others have said, there are often legitimate reasons for editing such pages. I, for one, have made a personal "project" out of archiving talk pages and improving the archives with newer (and better IMO) navigation templates, so future readers will have an easier time reading old discussions.

I would actually like to see a "secondary Watchlist" for just such pages, something I check rarely but want to keep an eye on. For now, I just use a sandbox page with links, and glance through the history on those articles once in a while. -- Kesh 20:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

trademarks ?

I am looking for the factory trade (?) marks usually found

on the bottom of fine chine or porceline, viz: Dresden.

10/Q

RCP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.42.195 (talk) 02:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Ariel♥Gold 02:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Make an article longer or split it into sub-pages?

I'm working on maintaining an article here Mississippi Sea Wolves, and since I started on it it's gotten to what I feel is about as long as is reasonable.

What is the accepted practice for determining when I should think about splitting an article into a main page and sub-pages or should I just let it grow as long as the information remains useful and appropriate? BiloxiGeek 03:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Article size and Wikipedia:Summary style. --Teratornis 03:14, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Incorrectly tagged WikiProject Biography articles

What does this mean and how do I fix it? I cannot find any explanation on Wiki. --Clhowson 03:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Where did you see the expression? Maybe Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography can be of help. PrimeHunter 03:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

A Flickr sharing question

I have been asking people in users to change flickr photo permissions so that they can be uploaded to wikipedia. However, one photographer asked what would happen if the permission changed back to "copyright" after it was uploaded? For example

• Monday - Photo was copyrighted.
• Tuesday - Photo permission became "Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons". Uploaded to wikipedia
• Wednesday -Photo permission changed back to copyrighted.

In this example, wikipedia is now holding an image that at one time had a good license. Not only that, but what if the user completely delete the image from flickr? Benjwong 05:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

It would be hard to prove, but having the image on Wikipedia would be completely legal. That's why you can't change the copyright status of material submit here, unless you do it to make the use more 'free'. Do people on flickr get a warning what releasing the image under a CC license could lead to before they do it? That should cut down testing changes considerably. - 131.211.210.12 07:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You have to opt in to CC on Flickr, so one would hope that users aren't seeking to change their licenses without any idea of what it means.

Back to the original question, if the image was uploaded to Commons, as it should be, the image would be put through the partially automated Flickrreview process, which would be able to state that image was under a free license at the time it was reviewed. Once the owner of an image gives up rights to put it under CC, those rights can not be revoked. In other words, even if the photographer deletes the image off Flickr and sends an angry letter to Wikipedia demanding that his image be removed, the Wikimedia Foundation is under no legal obligation to do so and can use the image under the terms of the CC license. - BanyanTree 12:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

something that could help weki out

hey i dont know who you have to talk to but think of this maybe adding the idea of a forum type thing at the bottom of every page to have users speak their mind about the subject they just read —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkane86 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• I'm afraid such a feature doesn't help to reach Wikipedia's goals. There's already plenty of forums on the net where you can share your views on anything ranging from bricks to politics and everything in between. Such a feature would just hog server space. - 131.211.210.12 07:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
• In case you don't know, there is a "discussion" tab at the top which leads to a talk page where improvements to the page can be discussed, but it's not for general discussion of the subject. PrimeHunter 12:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Issue with userpage

I have an issue with my userpage. I'm not a very good explainer, and my explination may be confusing, so I've provided a visualization HERE. I'm trying to put the service badge onto the page (I recently put "col-begin", "col-2", etc. into the page to put some items into columns). The problem is when I insert it in, the rest of the section (from "Wikipedia:Wikiproject..." down) moves down. I need the body to move up ("Templates", "friends" part to connect with the "Wikiprojects" header, while keeping the badge still on the right side. Thanks! The Chronic 07:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

improving of article

Hi

can anyone guide me as how to further improve my article? it has been deleted once already.

Boon Software

Thanks Dleewh 08:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

After a quick look, I think the article reads like an advertising brochure and some of the article is almost an exact copy of the company's website. For example: "...collaborative relationships with its clients through aligning their vision with their supply chain execution solutions, empowering their operations execution through best practices." is the kind of thing I could read here. If you are going to write about a company, you should not only ensure the company is notable, but take a look at the Wikipedia policies on the notability of companies and, if you have a close relationship with the company, the conflict of interest policy. Astronaut 09:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. PrimeHunter 11:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. however, why is it that my article is somewhat similar to Nike Communications or even Agility Logistics and theirs don't get deleted? Please further advice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dleewh (talk • contribs) 02:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Appreciate if someone would review the article again as i have made improvements to the article. please do comment. thanks Dleewh 01:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

function of chief rector of University of Hyderabad

Insert non-formatted text here

Please remember to sign your posts with "~~~~". Do you have a question about using Wikipedia? Astronaut 10:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

format a text

Hello, I searched a lot the Wiki guide but i cannot find exactly what i need. I'd like to be able to position my text wherever i want in the screen. Example: <3 spaces>text <5 spaces> text <new line> text <8 spaces> text..... Is it possible? Many Thanks. Ettore Rossi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spike ge (talk • contribs) 10:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Here are 3 methods which are suited for different situations. 1) Write &nbsp; for every space you want and change line with <br> (this will usually not align words in consecutive lines due to non-fixed width fonts). 2) Start a line with a space and then write normally (produces a box around the text). 3) Make a table with text in different cells. Maybe we can give better advice if we know what you want to use it for. PrimeHunter 11:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You can create fixed-width text that allows multiple    spaces and newlines by starting the line with a space.
These two lines   are an example. (They're placed in a grey box.) --ais523 12:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your help. I'm writing down some sql queries and they are better to be written with a precise formattation. I think the easiest way it's using &nbsp; as you suggested. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spike ge (talk • contribs) 13:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Source code is often written with a leading space, or inside <code>...</code>. PrimeHunter 15:19, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Meaning or the history of the word?

 Antartia

Thanks Annie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.221.174.120 (talk) 11:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. You might also want to fix the spelling of the word. I think you mean Antarctica. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

LInking To Wikipedia - is there an icon I can use ?

I see I can link to wikipedia freely with o permission needed but I would like to heve inks to several sites and would like an icon for each, hope this is usefull in explaining.

UK       G    T    W
USA      G    T    W
key G=official goverment site, T=tourist board   W=Wikipedia  

I would like an icon for each link. I will design my own for the "G" ans "T" and will use a W design if I get no reply. Have tried to email Wikipedia but no responce from others that ave designed icons on th site.

Ashley Hellier

If this is the wrong plase to ask then sorry but I ust can't find where to ask —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.66.33 (talk) 13:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia logo is trademark and copyright by the Wikimedia Foundation, so there are potentially problems in using that. You might want to use the Wikipedia favicon to mark the link; see Image:Wikipedia's W.svg for a scaleable GFDL- and CC-by-sa-2.5-licenced version of the image. You could either use that (follow the links on that page to find out more about the licences you can use it under; the CC-by-sa-2.5 licence is the one you'll likely end up using the image under if you go down that path), or you could just make your own image that looked similar. --ais523 13:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I will use the "W" favicon

(I indented three lines in the question so they would format the way you were probably trying to format them. We're not supposed to edit other people's stuff on the Help desk, but in this case the formatting was crying out to be preserved.) I tried a Google search for "link to Wikipedia" in the Wikipedia: (Project:) namespace, but I did not find anything about a suitable icon for linking to Wikipedia from other Web sites. However, I did not look too far into the search results. Given the vast numbers of other sites that link to Wikipedia, one would think someone has thought of a nice way to do that. One would also think that somewhere in Wikipedia's project pages, someone has written about that. --Teratornis 13:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Should I Remove an External Link.

I have noticed that in the Virgin 1 article, the designer of the station logo has placed an external link to his website. Being new to Wikipedia I am not confident in removing this link, it seems to be self-promotion but could also be seen as a point of interest. Is there some way I can consult more experienced Wikipedians about this? What would the correct procedure be? Should I raise the matter on the articles discussion page? Prking68 14:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, the way you remove a link is simply to edit it out of the page. As for whether you should remove it or not, Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Spam are the most relevant project pages; if you're not sure, you could ask Wikipedia:WikiProject Spam for their opinion. --ais523 14:37, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

It certainly seems a fair assumption that it was added [3] by the designer (only edit by 6 minutes old account). I reverted it. PrimeHunter 15:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia automitically on a search engilne

HOW DO I GET WIKIPEDIA LISTED ON MY FAVORITES. SOMETIMES WHEN I AM ON A SEARCH ENGINE MAKING INQUIRIES IT AUTOMITACALLY JUMPS TO WIKIPEDIA.

Seymour Ross <contact info removed for your security> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.233.152.254 (talk) 14:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Can you be a bit more specific? What browser and search engine are you using? I've removed your contact information for your security; see the warning at the top of the page. Leebo ^T/C 15:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

A Wikipedia page is often the first search result, so if you use Google's "I'm feeling lucky" then you will often jump to Wikipedia. This is unrelated to your favorites. If you have Internet Explorer and want a page in your favorites then go to the page and click "Favorites" or possibly a yellow star with a green plus. Then there should be an option to add the page to favorites. PrimeHunter 15:33, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing main title?

Today I created an entry for End Water Poverty. I would like to Edit the main title so that all the words are capped up, is this possible? Isabellam 15:12, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You need to 'move' or 'rename' the page. Because your account is at least 4 days old, you can rename a page by clicking on the 'move' tab at the top of the page, and entering a new name. See Help:Merging and moving pages for more information. --ais523 15:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow, great, thanks so much for your help! Isabellam 15:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

cant edit the rs page

hi i have noticed several major mistakes in your runescape article (just search runescape and its the first one that comes up) and i want to know how to correct them. i know there should be a edit button but i cant find it so what should i do?---- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terr ible 002 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

It has been semi protected so that only established editors can edit it. If you have suggestions go to the talk page and add your suggestions there. If they are reasonable, editors will add them in. It has been protected due to an unusually high level of vandalism edits. Hope this helps. Woodym555 15:52, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The article's been unprotected. Seeing as you are a new user, please see our welcome page. Best, PeaceNT 15:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Hi, I created the entry for end water poverty today and the article has now been flagged with conflict of interest/neutrality/advertisment. Is there any way I can make my case or are there any edits I can make that will remove these boxes? If not, it would probably be better that this entry is removed. What would be the best way to go about doing that? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isabellam (talk • contribs) 15:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see WP:COI, the article is currently in need of reliable third party sources so notability can be verified. Please try improving the article. Best, PeaceNT 15:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Finding

How do you make something respond to certain words. Like if you search for games, it will show relevant. Or naruto. Um like, if you did a search bar like naruto, how would you make the page come up for that because it's naruto related. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirerellim (talk • contribs) 16:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you could clarify your question further? Are you looking for help on the search function of wikipedia? — Lost^(talk) 16:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

If you want something to come up if you put in a certain word, even if it doesn't have much to do with that word. 24.113.246.98 19:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a search engine; we do not have that capacity, and probably never will. --Orange Mike 19:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Darn. But, it has a search bar. Whats that for if you cant search? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.246.98 (talk) 04:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

problems with footnotes

Inver471ness 16:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)I believe that I have managed to get the cited references formatted properly in my( first ever ) article in my sandbox.

However, even though I have read the instructions, I am confused (stymied ) as to how to refer to three explanatory footnotes which I have placed at the end of the article. In the article itself I have used one, two and three asterisks respectively to refer to the footnotes, but I do not understand how to refer to these asterisks at the beginning of each footnote. I don't think I should be including cited references and footnotes in the same list.

 I would appreciate some advice, or even someone cleaning this up for me. 

I am new to Wikipedia, but I have had experience writing scientific articles in journals. This problem has me beaten, however.

Welcome to Wikipedia. The most common method of footnoting involves the use of reference tags (e.g. <ref>your citation</ref>) and the {{Reflist}} template (which organizes the references you placed within tags). You can read about this at Wikipedia:Footnotes. Leebo ^T/C 16:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I tag an article?

I found an article that really needs to be separated into two articles? Where can I find the tag to put on this so I and others can work on it?

Heismanhoosier 16:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You'll probably want the {{split}} template; make sure you read all the instructions for it first though, located at Template:Split. Good luck! GlassCobra 16:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

how to cite wikipedia as a source

How do I cite wikipedia as a source for my college paper (who is the editor of the site)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.6.219 (talk) 16:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is edited by anyone and everyone who wishes to contribute, it's an open wiki. You can find information about citing Wikipedia at Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia, but you should be aware that most schools, universities, teachers, and professors don't allow citing Wikipedia as a source. Firstly, because Wikipedia makes no guarantee of validity (see: Wikipedia:General disclaimer) and because it's an encyclopedia, a tertiary source, the use of which in a paper represents poor research in most of academia's opinions. Your best bet is to use Wikipedia as a starting point and follow the references listed within the articles. Leebo ^T/C 17:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

I was bored and vandalised wikipedia twice and im sorry and i want to take it back, how can i do this? 82.3.0.69 17:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Your vandalism on Hemoglobin has already been reverted. All you need do now is make more constructive edits in the future. Why not write an article on something you know a lot about? If necessary, ask for specific advice from one of us. No doubt you'll enjoy it. Lots of luck, Bessel Dekker 17:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has some constructive editors who started out as vandals. See: WP:MOTIVATION#Ex-vandals and User:JetLover/Vandal Rehabilitation. If you find the guilt overwhelming even after you make some constructive edits, you might try this guy's methods for mortification of the flesh. --Teratornis 20:48, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

That should certainly bring the hemoglobin out. Bessel Dekker 02:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You don't need to be an expert at anything to help. We need lots of help with spelling, formatting, and general wikification. Go to Wikipedia:Community Portal (linked from the left sidebar on every page) to find lists of articles that need help. spend at least as much time helping as you did vandalizing. You will probably find that it's fun. If so, keep helping. -Arch dude 21:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

re: "Boston Community Capital"

I am attempting to build this entry; it was tagged for speedy deletion and taken off the site as I was assembling outside sources and the necessary supporting materials to adequately support it; i.e., as I was writing it and before there was any time to complete the entry.

An article on BCC would be of practical value to anyone researching community finance, CDFIs, community development in New England, or any related topic on Wikipedia.

Based on the presence of "CDFI" and the few other CDFIs I have found on Wikipedia, it seems clear that BCC would be a consistent and useful addition. BCC was an inaugural recipient of the CDFI award, is a nationally significant CDFI in terms of volume ($250MM invested or lent), and its work with New Market Tax Credits (for which Wikipedia should also have an entry, and which I would be happy to create) allocations as well as equity equivalents are of value to anyone researching innovators in this field.

Presuming this fits the criteria of usefulness and edification set by Wikipedia-- which I would be surprised if it did not-- I would also appreciate a little advice in how to avoid having the entry taken down as I am creating it. I understand the requirements for 3rd party sources, etc., but it is hard to create the entry if it gets taken down as you build it up.

thanks,

Slimbuttons 17:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Without offering an opinion on whether this organization is noteworthy enough to merit an article, I might suggest that you try composing the article in a word processing application such as Word, include reliable sources and citations in your document, and then paste the more-or-less finished article into the editing box in Wikipedia. Marco polo 18:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks, marco. Slimbuttons 18:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Another option would be to write the article in your sandbox: User:Slimbuttons/sandbox/Boston Community Capital. Sbowers3 02:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Table Formating Questions

Where do I find table formating info? ie, how to make the columns a set width, make the table lines disappear etc? Rocketmaniac 18:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Help:Table should have the information you need - in order to remove the border, you can add style="border: 0px;" to the table parameters - to make columns a set width, add width="###px" above each cell in that column. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

If Help:Table does not answer all your questions, see the additional links at WP:EIW#Table. --Teratornis 20:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Splitting Lists

I am also looking for information. There is a large list I am trying to split in half. Thank you. --192.193.220.202 19:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Could you provide a link so we know what you're referring to? You can modify the list by clicking the "edit this tab" link at the top of the page, but in order to create a new page, you will need to register an account or request that another editor do this for you. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (long lists) may be of interest. Also see: WP:EIW#Lists. --Teratornis 20:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about source lang="php"

I like how the use of source lang="php" works on Wikipedia, but I've had problems using it in other MediaWiki installations. Do I need to install something or adjust a setting to get it to work? In the example I've been using, it simply reiterates the text of the tag, rather than implementing the tag. Duckingham 18:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

We're only able to offer help with the English Wikipedia - I think you'd have better luck at the Tech Village Pump or the Mediawiki site. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I think you refer to mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight GeSHi. That is an extension, which a system administrator has to install in MediaWiki to enable syntax highlighting. To see the extensions installed on a MediaWiki wiki, browse to its Special:Version page. Installing an extension requires "shell access" to the server that runs MediaWiki for your wiki. This is more than even a bureaucrat can do from inside the wiki itself. --Teratornis 21:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That helped!!! Duckingham 14:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

how do i change the name of an existing page which has been spelt wrongly?

how do i change the name of an existing page which has been spelt wrongly? adarsh hospital has to be ADHARSH HOSPITAL please help..thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adu65 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Once your account is at least four days old, you can click the "move" tab at the top of the page. Someone's already done this for you. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 19:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

• Make sure you pay attention to capitalization when you move a page. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Accuracy of my company's information

I have been asked by my company to periodically check the accuracy of the company's information on Wikipedia. This request was made because previously we had noticed some inaccurate information (it has since been updated). I have used my real name in creating an account and provided Wikipedia my company e-mail address so that everything is completely transparent.

Is it acceptable for me to make factual changes to information about my company (AAA) and also to be the source of the information? Several years ago I developed a history for the company (http://www.aaanewsroom.net/Main/Default.asp?CategoryID=5&SubCategoryID=13&ContentID=83&) with the assistance of our research library. In addition, my department updates certain statistics every year some of which are included on Wikipedia. I (or my department) am probably the best resource for the information and would like to keep Wikipedia's information accurate. Jgraziani 20:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

In general, this would be discouraged, for the reasons discussed in Wikipedia:Business'_FAQ. (Essentially as this is a conflict of interest, and may lead to non-neutral articles). That said though, if your goal is to correct small mistakes in a neutral fashion, I'd discuss it on the articles talk page first. Best, --Bfigura ^(talk) 20:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest explaining your COI, your concern and a proposed course of action on the article talk page. For example, "I work for the company that is the subject of this article. I noticed X, Y and Z are wrong, as you can see from [external link to credible page]. If there are no objections in the next seven days (and if nobody beats me to it), I'll correct the article myself." Then, assuming that editors see nothing wrong and are as laid-back as usual, make your edits after seven days. Please source your edits. Making edits that are more extensive than you've indicated on the article discussion page is sure to incur someone's ire. If you wish to confirm your account's organizational affiliation (the lack of which may in some cases lead to accusations of impersonation - a blockable offense), please send a note to the email address listed at the bottom of Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject) from an official address, being sure to mention your username. This will result in a volunteer doing the thankless job of fielding complaints from the general public placing a note on your user talk page once it is processed. - BanyanTree 00:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

AmiDaniel and Vandal Proof

Hello. When I have searched for Vandal Proof, I was redirected to AmiDaniel's userpage. I believe that most Wikipedians are good, but I am only getting this program just to be safe rather than sorry. I do not mean anything offensive, but AmiDaniel is not a fraud artist setting up a redirect to his or her userpage to harm Wikipedians who have applied for Vandal Proof? Right? Thanks in advance. --Mayfare 20:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The page in question is: WP:VPRF (a shortcut that redirects to: User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof). To estimate the "legitimacy" of a user page on Wikipedia, one indicator is the number of backlinks to it, in this case: Special:Whatlinkshere/User:AmiDaniel/VandalProof. Given that more than 1,000 pages (most of them other user pages) link to WP:VPRF, the odds are extremely high that the page is legitimate. If zero or few other pages link to a particular user page, then you should be suspicious of downloading programs from it. --Teratornis 21:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

All the same, you could pick some users from the list of backlinks, and leave questions on their talk pages about how they like the VandalProof application. It never hurts to get a few more opinions before you proceed. --Teratornis 21:03, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Parameter expansion

Not sure if there's a subpage or alternative forum for technical questions, but here goes. Is there any known workaround to the issue of template parameters not expanding when they're contained within html tags? If you don't know what I'm talking about, you're unlikely to know the answer... Happy‑melon 20:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), which should suit your needs. Woodym555 21:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Protecting user sandboxes?

Not sure if this is allowed, but here's what I was thinking: My sandbox is of more use to me as a sort of 'scratchpad' area, so I'm thinking I'd like to be able to protect it so I can leave stuff there that's for my reference/WIP. Is this allowed? Or am I missing the point? Thanks, either way.   ¥    Jacky Tar  21:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

I'll reply at user talk. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 21:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Help

Hi my name is Elizabeth Lee.I am 10 years old and in 5th grade.I am trying to use the dictionary for my defnition paper for school.Probem is it won't give me the definition.Please help me.

Sincerely, Elizabeth A. Lee 5th grader —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.180.39.137 (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a dictonary, it's an encylopaedia. You might have more luck at Wiktionary. AngelOfSadness talk 21:30, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You probably need to look up words at Wiktionary, the Wikipedia-style dictionary. I can't tell you how to do that. If you're not finding the word you're looking for, you might have misspelled it. Try a different spelling. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 21:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

You could try: dictionary Com. It's free and you can hear the pronunciation of most words Ron Barker 14:37, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

BCAT

Hello,

I've been having trouble editing the reference section from the BCAT entry. found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Community_Access_Television

I want to change BRIC/Information & Culture to BRIC Arts|Media|Brooklyn.

The site seems to be using a Template Reflist and only says:

in the editable page but no text for BRIC.

Thanks for helping Seelos66 22:49, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Such a reference is edited where it's referenced in the text and not where it is displayed. Click the little link at the reference to see where in the text it comes from. PrimeHunter 23:41, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding source citations

After searching the FAQ for an hour or so I still have not found anything I recognize as telling me how to add "Socurce Citations" to edits that I have made to an artical.

This morning I changed the artical on Catherine Anne Hubback, my Great-Great-Grandmother, adding the full date and time of her death and the time frame in which she moved to the new location. The date and place of her death was taken from the "Index to Death Records of Prince William Counth Virginia Prior to 1912", "RELIC Bull Run Reg. Lib, Manassas, Va" found with a google seach. The time frame of her relocation to Virginia is taken from an artical found at victorianweb.org/authors/hubback/3.html" titled Englishwomen and Chinamen: Domestic Chores in the American West and notes in her copy, in my files, of the Book of Common Prayor of the Church of England 1868.

Please send me exact instructions about how to add these citations to my entry or make the entries for me.

Thank You,

Daniel F. Hughes —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.143.107.50 (talk) 23:23, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Citing sources. PrimeHunter 23:36, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The easiest way to insert a citation is to copy and paste the following, then fill in the fields.

<ref>{{cite web 
  | author = 
  | title = 
  | publisher = 
  | url = 
  | date = 
  | accessdate =  }}</ref>

Then at the end of the article, add a section named References or Notes and add one line:
{{reflist}}
Sbowers3 03:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

October 17

rottweiler

I have just adopted a 4yr old rottweiler,name is Max,hes about 120lbs a gentle bear from what I can tell so far. Going to take us both to classes so we can learn together,I dont believe he would ever hurt someone or a thing but I was told not to trust them!can anyone give me some helpful hints?Thanx Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.240.69.130 (talk) 00:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

this page is for questions about Wikipedia itself. You might be better off asking the question on our Reference desk. -- Kesh 00:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Software Development life cycle on Mianframes

Hi,

i am very happy to see your Articles...it's really great. also i would like to know how mainframe life cycle innocents i want to know the software development life cycle.

Thanks&Regards Shiva —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shivagoparapu (talk • contribs) 00:09, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

change the picture

in International School Bangkok page Chanusa 00:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Do you have a better picture that we could use? If so, upload it, make sure it complies with our image use policy, and then place it in the article. GlassCobra 01:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Getting a little tiresome

I don't "really" know where a complaint of this form would go, but the users repeated changing of the icons HAS to stop. The only result of the repeated and indiscriminate changing of icons is mass confusion. Resolution by consensus would likely be flawed as Wikipedia is not known for its transperancy, the underlying network below the front is very hard to find, let alone navigate.

The fact is repeated modification of default icons should NOT be allowed. The addition of reflective effects to an icon does not make that icon any more representive than without the effects, and in some occasions it makes it more difficult to understand what the icon is trying to convey. Similarly, replacing the icon with an icon that is vastly different than the original not only confuses those who identify certain templates with the icons that support them, but is completely unnessicary.

All icons, once their initial form is decided, should be locked from being changed. Similarly, all templates, once their initial form is decided upon, should be locked from being changed. The point I make here is that unless there is a reason, exclusive of astetics, to change a "official" part of wikipedia, it should not be changed.

As I said before, I do not know where this "should" go, and I'm not one to try and work the system to get my way. If this is read, I would prefer it to be placed in the corrosponding location rather than me attempt at putting it where it should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.238.179.195 (talk) 01:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Let me be the first to say... what the hell are you talking about?

ahem In a more polite fashion: what "icons" are you referring to? We need some context to understand what you're looking at and form a reply. -- Kesh 01:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Not entirely sure, but the user may be referring to Wikipedia's rule about having no fair use images in the userspace, and that these images in userboxes constantly get changed to free images? I'm not 100% on this one, but happy editing, ( arky ) 01:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure they're referring to all the interface changes that seem to be happening lately, everything from navigation box changes to template standardization has happened in the last few months, it's reasonable to assume that this sort of thing can be confusing to outsiders. There is something to be said for not making unnecessary interface changes, I mean wikipedia pretty much looked the same from 2003 to 2006, and then all of a sudden we get drop down menus in our user contributions, templates with large colored bars on them, page sizes in our watchlists and page histories, instruction creep run amok with different prompts for every page you edit, and to top it all off now when you hit the history tab you get "Revision history of ...", more instruction creep. I can understand why this would be frustrating for an anon user who can't use custom css to disable these changes.--VectorPotential^Talk 12:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Exact things to do

me 10/11/07:

"How do you do that? i have a great idea its just ive never cretaed a article on Wiki."

you said go to the "tutorial" and read my "first article" but what should i EXACTLY do to make an article. the tutorials dont exactly help. i need exact things to click

--THE CHUBACCA HAS LANDED 02:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)Mcspazatron

Just search for the title you want your article to be, click on the red link, and put your text in. If you don't read the tutorial, though, you may wind up with an article that will be promptly deleted for failing one of our policies, such as notability or verifiability. -- Kesh 02:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter 02:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

defragging

03:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)03:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)03:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)~how do i defrag john

For more information, please read our article on Defragmentation. You can also ask your question at our reference desk. Good luck! GlassCobra 04:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Can't get my user name out of the article I edited.

I was adding a paragraph about David Foster Wallace and my name appears in the article at the end of my edit. It probably has somethung to do with the fact that I originally placed the paragraph wrongly withi the article, so went back to "edit this page" and used CNTRL X and CNTRL C to move it. Now I cannot get rid of my name.Cross Reference 03:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Basically, you don't need to sign your edits to article with ~ symbols. However, I've reverted your addition to the article for now. There were too many of your own, original interpretations of the interview material. Be sure you're only reporting the facts, rather than assuming what was meant. -- Kesh 04:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

How to insert Chinese characters?

The article at:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_London_Missionary_Society_missionaries_in_China

has a table with "Chinese Name" as one column. In this is the name of the person using Chinese characters.

How can these characters be inserted?

Stubbo of Oz 06:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Stubbo Of Oz

Generally, these are inserted by typing them in, usually via a program that allows a person to type in the Roman alphabet (i.e. the alphabet we're using now), and convert that to the relevant characters. This is available in Windows XP and Mac OS X in a group of settings called either "Language", "Internationalization" or "Keyboard", and may require extra installation of components. Confusing Manifestation 14:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

getting a title for my article

How does my article get a title and get posted so that everyone can view it?

Thank You.

J H Hess —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesHess (talk • contribs) 07:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• By posting the material in the main namespace. You put the content on your userpage. I would recommend you go through the Wikipedia:Introduction and Wikipedia:Tutorial, though, as the current version of the article is missing some basic formatting and hasn't got any links. - 131.211.210.15 08:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

In the news links

On the main page there is a section called "In the news". Clicking on any of the links within the headline does not take you to that story, but to the individual pages. This seems really odd. I'd like to read the full story that the headline advertises, but there is no way to do it. 222.155.182.122 08:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• There is no full story. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and so we don't publish newspaper articles. The In The News features are newsworthy facts that have sparked a significant update in one of our articles. If the whole story is mentioned, you want to find it in the bolded article link. - 131.211.210.15 08:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You can find news at our sister project Wikinews if that helps. Pedro :  Chat  08:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The bolded link is there so most of the information that has changed recently is mentioned in the bolded article. Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

what is the baking processes

what is the baking processes because —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.105.73.52 (talk) 10:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Baking process of what? Pancakes? Bread? Pots? Please be a little more specific. If you aren't talking about baking Wikipedia, please post this question to the reference desk instead. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Consequently removing neutral text about satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands

On 13 October 2007 I wrote a new chapter in the already existing article about satanic ritual abuse. It contains the discussion about satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands. Two days later I found out that my chapter (which I have kept as neutral as possible, because I am very well aware that this discussion is very polarized) was almost entirely removed by someone who is not Dutch, who does not speak Dutch and who probably is not familiar at all with the discussion about satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands. Therefore I have put the original text again in the chapter.

However, a day later, this contributor, an Australian student who calls himself Biaothanatoi, removed again my whole text. Since then, every time when I put the text again in the chapter, he removes it and replaces it with a biases text on the situation in the Netherlands. A text with is based entirely on the research of Fred Jonker and Ietje Jonker-Bakker. That research is widely criticized both in the Netherlands and in the United States, because their findings are far from objective.

Furthermore Biaothanatoi accuses me of violating Wikipedia's policy of NPOV and balance. He says that any additions I make to this section should be statements of fact, not an endorsement of one opinion over another. But that is precisely what I am doing. I wrote a neutral text with lots of footnotes containing relevant literature, while Biaothanatoi only refers to a very questionable source: the research of Fred Jonker and Ietje Jonker-Bakker.

Since I follow the discussion about satanic ritual abuse in the Netherlands since 1994, I am very well informed about the ins and outs of this discussion. Therefore I asked Biaothanatoi several times to stop replacing my neutral text by his biased text. Since he refuses this, I would like to ask you how he can be stopped.

Yours sincerely,

Criminologist1963 11:02, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

(Removing duplication of conversation from talk page. Please see the originals at Talk:Satanic_ritual_abuse#POV_pushing_in_the_Netherlands_section, Talk:Satanic_ritual_abuse#Neutral_stance_toward_satanic_ritual_abuse_in_the_Netherlands)

What you probably need to do at this point is take a look at the dispute resolution guidelines. After the first two steps—conversation with the other editor and brief disengagement to reflect—the next move is to seek wider community input. Since there are only two editors in this discussion, you might choose to start with Wikipedia:Third opinion. If you do, please be sure to follow the directions for listing a dispute on that board, particularly as applies to providing a brief, neutral summary of the dispute and signing with five, rather than 4, tildes. We see a lot of people confused about those steps there. :) It can interfere with editors responding to your request. An alternative to WP:3O might be to ask for feedback at the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Religion. Sometimes it is helpful to request assistance at a project page instead of from miscellaneous other editors when some specialized knowledge of the subject might be useful in resolving the dispute. Good luck. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Saving pages

How do I download articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.73.29 (talk) 11:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• In Internet Explorer: Alt+F then select Save or Save As. If you want all the articles --> Wikipedia:Database download. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Of course if you do download an article, it won't look the same because all the css will be missing--VectorPotential^Talk 12:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Hi. Of course there will be anotehr problem: saved articles never get updated. So, you will be missing out on any breaking updates to the article. Therefore, I reccomend you bookmark the article to your favorites (Ctrl+D on IE). Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Moving pages over redirects

I can move a page to a name that already exists that is a redirect page (say film title (film) to film title (2007 film)) and it gives me a edit summary of "moved over redirect". However, this doesn't always happen - IE it tells me that a page name already exists (it's still just a redirect page) and I need to contact an admin to get a move done. Why is this? Lugnuts 11:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

You can only move over a redirect to reverse the redirect (that is, move over a redirect that's pointing to the page you're moving over), and then only when the page only has 1 entry in its history. This is to prevent non-admin users deleting pages by moving other pages over them. --ais523 11:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Brilliant - thanks for the speedy reply! Lugnuts 11:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

I thought editing an article was supposed to be unbiased? I have found information that is clearly biased as a disgruntled employee must have posted a paragraph (clearly at the end of the description) that is unflattering and sounds very biased. I have worked for this company for 7 years and I know for a fact that its untrue! Clearly the wikipedia site has lowered is credibility in my standards for allowing this type of information on its site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.65.235 (talk) 13:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Which page are you referring to? GlassCobra 13:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Users are what make the "Wikipedia credibility" what it is, so if you read something that doesn't meet the policies and guidelines, you can fix it yourself. It's not like articles get peer reviewed with every change. Someone has to find and fix it. You found it, so... Leebo ^T/C 14:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

And of course, since you work for the company, you yourself must be conscious of our rules about conflicts of interest. --Orange Mike 17:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Our tag line is "welcome to Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit." We make no pretense about our credentials. When you read anything on this site, it could have been added or modified ten seconds ago by a ten-year-old. This means you as a reader must take responsibility to check the references. As it happens, just about any publication has editorial bias and inaccuracies. Ours are just different from others, and we are more honest about it. As it happens, we have so many editors that most inaccuracies and biases are found and fixed quite quickly. This is not possible for more traditional publications. Your experience should teach you to be wary of any informatin source, not just Wikipedia. -Arch dude 21:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Making a Page

how to make a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr-novak (talk • contribs) 13:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. GlassCobra 13:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Ghana National Party

Please why has my article on Ghana National Party begin deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.23.124.81 (talk) 14:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The deletion log says it was deleted as "Party advert". All contributions to Wikipedia have to use neutral language, and include verifiable information from reliable sources. It is also suggested that if you are personally connected with the subject of an article, and hence have a conflict of interest, that you not create or edit the article directly, but propose suggestions for less potentially biased editors to implement. Confusing Manifestation 14:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)I think you are referring to the Ghana National Party article, and the account you used was User:Kka65? The article was deleted because it was blatant advertising (see the speedy deletion criteria) for the party. It was written in such a way that it clearly showed a bias toward the party, violating Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. It was not written as an encyclopedia article, but as an essay with the intent of persuading the reader. Leebo ^T/C 14:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

If you want to try again, you might want to first read a few articles on similar subjects, such as political parties in other countries, to get an idea of what is generally done. Then, write your article in a sub-page of your user page (e.g., User:Kka65/Ghana National Party, and ask for comments on your article to make sure it is WP:NPOV. If one or two experienced editors think it's OK, then move it into the normal spot. make sure you cite sources so we know the party is actually notable. Good Luck! -Arch dude 20:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

incomplete article

There is an article 'Surat' which is displayed incompletely. When I click it's 'Edit Page' link, the article has many other sections, references and other things. But the article itself shows only first 6 sections. Please help as I think, because of a minor change I did on October 12, this might have happened.

Thanks

The problem was in the reference tag. I'm not sure what you meant to put there, so I have temporarily replaced it with a "fact" tag, indicated that the point is unreferenced? If you were attempting to provide a reference at that point by adding a footnote, here is how. :) In a nutshell, the <ref> tag told Wikipedia that the material following it should go into a footnote. Since there was no closing tag, </ref>, after the footnoted material, it didn't know where to end the footnote. If you meant some of the material in the article to go into a footnote, just edit it again and put <ref> and </ref> before and after the relevant material. Hope that helps. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:16, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

What the user had done was to insert a reference into the References section, manually numbered it "3", then he inserted a "(3)" with a <ref> in the Demographics section. I added a note on his talk page explaining that references are to be inserted inline, in the Demographics section in his case, then the system automatically displays the content of the reference down in the references section, automatically numbers the references, and inserts a numbered link from the cited Demographics statement down to the References section.

I've seen this same mistake by other users and other mistaken ways to add references. More and more I think that WP:Cite doesn't have enough "how to" information about the mechanics of inserting references. Sbowers3 21:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Citing a historical marker

How do you properly cite information from a historical marker, monument or plaque? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.137.222.48 (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Leebo ^T/C 15:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• I don't think this is a reference desk question. It's a legitimate question about how to use a marker as a source for article information. I don't think there is a standard method to do this. I'd mention the name of the marker, its location (either approximate or coordinates) and the date you visited it - even markers can change. If you know when it was written and who did it those are useful bits of info too. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I suggest that an article about a historical marker needs an infobox, similar to what we have for articles about other things relating to locations: {{Infobox country}}, {{Infobox city}}, {{Infobox protected area}}, {{Infobox bridge}}, etc. See Category:Geography infobox templates for more examples. My very casual glance at that category didn't find an existing infobox that would be suitable for a historical marker, but I might have missed one. If no suitable infobox already exists, you can get help with designing a new one at Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes. --Teratornis 17:57, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Nobody's suggesting an article about a marker; the querent wants to know how to cite a marker as a source document. (The question is whether these markers are really reliable sources for us to cite.) --Orange Mike 20:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it's a legitimate technical question. May I recommend that you take a picture of the marker and upload the picture to the commons? Please add the date and location (street address and/or GPS co-ordinates) to the description, together with your copyright release for the picture. We treat a picture as a valid reference, not as WP:OR (I'm not sure why, but it seems right to me.) You can then reference the picture from the article, and if the picture itself is appealing and relevant, you can add the picture itself to the article. -Arch dude 20:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Re-directs

When I search for wizetrade, I am immediately brought to a page about 'James Dicks' Is there anyway to change this re-direct so that it does not end up on this page?

Thank you

John Akers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizetrade (talk • contribs) 15:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a redirect. You can edit the page here if you want to make it an article instead of a redirect. You should be cautious about editing this article though, since your username is User:Wizetrade; you need to be careful not to violate our neutral point of view policy because you may have a conflict of interest if you are affiliated with Wizetrade. Leebo ^T/C 15:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

download dictionary

is it possible to download the english dictionary?? please reply to <email removed for your security> Thank you15:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)208.252.120.162

Hi, this page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, as is clearly mentioned. Please try a Reference Desk to answer your question and don't post your email address. ::Manors:: 16:24, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manors (talk • contribs)

Hi. We do have a sister site called Wiktionary, so maybe you could download that, or at least save a few pages. Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Editing an Article Title - Need Help

I need to edit the title of a new article. It's called "Henry hurwitz" and should be renamed "Henry Hurwitz Jr."

How do I do this?

-Michael —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbi381 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Is there a Henry Hurwitz Sr. who he will be confused with if it's just Henry Hurwitz? Is he always referred to as Henry Hurwitz Jr.? You can move the page after your account is 4 days old, or you can request the move at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Leebo ^T/C 15:40, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, actually, there is a Henry Hurwitz Sr.(his father) who was the founder of the Menorah Society, a pioneering Jewish intellectual movement started at Harvard in 1906, which laid the foundation to modern Jewish youth movements, such as Hillel. Also, the original title had Henry Hurwitz Jr.'s last name with a lower case "h". That is part of the reason I wanted to update it. So, I should wait a few days and request a move? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbi381 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I've done it for you, please tell me if it needs altering again. Kind Regards, ::Manors:: 16:30, 17 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manors (talk • contribs)

Corporate Entry - Vandalism

I am tired of having to remove the ridiculous and persistent vandalism that is occuring to the entry related to the entry about our company. These are not logged in users it appears and there is no reason to "warn" their IP. The company name is Biscuitville.

Can this entry be locked down so that edits must come from logged in parties? How can I tell who this is? What other means are there to deal with this? I am not a proficient user and your "help" section doesn't seem to make this too easy. Please help me deal with this and eliminate the issue.

As nice as the concept of a free forum is, we take our trademarked and copywrited material very seriously and look forward to your assistance in quickly dealing with this annoyance.

Thank you.

Hi, this page should help you. You require "semi-protection". Kind Regards, ::Manors:: 16:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

A couple of points strike me. Firstly, I don't think there's much chance of getting protection for a page that's only been edited ten times since June: even if half of those were vandals and the other half were people repairing the damage done by the vandals, it's hardly a high level of vandalism. Secondly, what "trademarked and copyrighted" material are you talking about? This is an open project: there shouldn't be anything on here that is your (or anyone's) copyright (except in limited cases where there is "fair use"). Please let us know what you mean, since it may be necessary to take the page down. AndyJones 16:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Temptations article has been hacked

The Wikipedia article on "The Temptations" has been hacked. Typeface has been corrupted beyond reading.

Here is the address http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Temptations

thanks Rexxx Black

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexxxblack (talk • contribs) 16:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC) 

Fixed. Some idiot had added a size 14 font tag, screwing it all up, so I removed it. Remember, you can fix articles yourself as you can edit any page yourself. Kind Regards, ::Manors:: talk to me 17:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. You know, any single edit can usually be reverted — see Help:Reverting. Simply correctly click on edit or undo in the diff, or add a tool such as popups to your monobook. If you want to revert several vandoulous edits in a row, with the current edit being vandalism, simply click on "(edit)" over the last good version. Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Publisher

who is the publisher for this site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.241.161.54 (talk) 16:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Hi. When you cite Wikipedia, the publisher is noted as "Wikipedia publishers". If you're desperate, you can find who added any specific piece of info from the "history" tab, and its source. All information on Wikipedia, according to our policies and guidelines, needs to be referenced by anotehr website, book, printed work, etc. If you want to find out who published a specific piece of info in the first place, you can find the specific reference and you might be able to find out the publisher there. No one person publishes Wikipedia. In fact, we have, on the English Wikipedia alone, about 5 million registered accounts, of which around 30% of them have edits, and an additional 3 million or so anonomous editors, around 60% of which make constructive edits. Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

MLA source

I am writing a paper for my college class. I have referenced several itmes found in wikipedia. Do you know how I can cite these works using the MLA format. Can you give me a general format citing Wikipedia as a source.

George Lymbouris

Please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 18:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that most college professors and universities don't allow citing Wikipedia as a source. Firstly, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and you shouldn't be using these kinds of tertiary sources for college work. Second, Wikipedia does not guarantee validity of any information found on the site. You should look for references in the articles and cite them after you've verified their reliability. Leebo ^T/C 18:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

creating

can i create a page for somebody on wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hisalness (talk • contribs) 18:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you can create a page for somebody, but you should review Wikipedia's policies and guidelines first; your edit to Jennifer Lopez indicates you are not familiar with these rules. If you review them and feel comfortable with them, see Help:Starting a page. Leebo ^T/C 18:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

create

how do i create a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hisalness (talk • contribs) 19:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi! you might want to look at Help:Starting a page. :-) Stwalkerster talk 19:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Moved here from another talk page

I don't know where to really look for help, so I thought someone can kindly point me in the right direction or at least 'set me straight'. I am having a disagreement with fellow members of WP:PW. I nominated a wrestling article for deletion. All the members disagree with me but have no material to backup their up their argument, instead the are citing what they fell is a general opinion as their reasoning for keeping the article (not sources, as there are none). I feel I have a concrete arguement, but was not able to find anywhere in Wikipedia's guidelines where an opinion or perception disqualifies an article. Maybe I'm wrong? Can someone help?

PS I'm not phishing for support, I would like to something that will help my case as I really feel this article does not meet Wikipedia standards.

Thank you for any help or insite :)

--Endless Dan 19:08, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

If they say it's "general opinion" but have no sources to back them up, then it's Original Research, which is to be excluded from Wikipedia. --Orange Mike 19:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• I've seen a number of wrestling articles unjustly deleted, but this isn't one of them. Unless they can cite sources or point someone else to sources to back it all up, it's deleteable per policy. And if "This show is considered by many as one of the pivotal broadcasts that led to the downfall of WCW." can't be backed up, it's not even a valid article subject. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• • Thank you all for the help. How is deletion decided though? Is it decided by majority? I enjoy editing wrestling articles and agree that a lot of wrestling articles have been unjustly deleted, but this seems a bit ridculous. Also is there a specific rule that says 'articles can be kept by meer perception of importance'? --Endless Dan 20:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Articles are deleted by consensus; that is, people must agree on its fate. See:WP:CONSENSUS. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 20:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• • • Those standards are here in the Notability guidelines. To quote from the lede, "The topic of an article should be notable, or "worthy of notice". This concept is distinct from "fame", "importance", or "popularity"." --Orange Mike 20:27, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• The deletion will be decided when an administrator evaluates it (after 5 days) and determines whether the arguments support deletion per policy, or retention per policy. Reasoning that is based in policy is generally considered stronger than non-policy opinions. Leebo ^T/C 20:28, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all for the clarification! I've sorta unintentionally alienated myself on WP:PW because of this proposed deletion, but I really don't see any encyclopedic value to this article. --Endless Dan 20:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Note that consensus at such a debate does not override core content policies. If fifty people state that an article should be kept because they like it, and one person presents uncontroverted, compelling evidence that the article is unverifiable, the article should be deleted.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

John Brisben Walker

To whom it may concern, I have 12 issues of "THE COSNOPLITAN" magazine;9 copies dated 1899 and thee copies dated 1900. Issue price ten cents per copy. Do these issues have any collective value. Thanks Gene —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.99.215 (talk) 19:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

This sounds like a knowledge question rather than a "using Wikipedia" question, so I would recommend you go to the appropriate reference desk, where such questions are typically handled. Leebo ^T/C 19:42, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Admins

I am doing an english paper on Wikipedians. I am confused as to what the Wikipedia Admins are responsible for, and if there is anyway of contacting one of them to ask some questions.129.89.107.135 19:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)English Student

You can read about administrative tasks at Wikipedia:Administrators. As for contacting one and asking questions... you just did! :) I wouldn't mind answering other questions. You could go to my talk page or email me. Leebo ^T/C 19:44, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Through this method however, you may not get an admin, there is a proper contact system for admins on that page though. ::Manors:: talk to me 19:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• See Special:Listadmins. You can contact each of them on their user talk page, although some will be more active than others. I'm an admin too and if I can spare a few minutes, I'd be happy to answer your questions too. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. By the way, if it helps, I've answered your question about why we contribute on Wikipedia talk:Wikipedians. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

An English paper? Well, well, well. And I though teachers didn't like us. :-) ΚαροτΜαν 13:22, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

how to survery contributors

how can I distribute a survery (5 questions concerning editing articles in Wikipedia) among contributors? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.239.216.14 (talk • contribs)

I'm not sure about policies and the like, but people might not want a survey sent to them so I doubt there is an official way to ask the questions. ::Manors:: talk to me 19:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Post them to an external website and post messages with links to places like the help desk and the village pump to let people know. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

• Hi. Well, unless the policies are more restrictive than that, you may be able to get an answer on one of our reference desks. Hope this helps. ~AH1^(TCU) 19:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Statistics about size of articles?

Are there any statistics about the size of articles? E.g. the median size, the 90th percentile size, etc.? Sbowers3 20:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

There is this page but I dont think that exactly answers your question. Sorry. ::Manors:: talk to me 22:05, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I too do not know the answer to your question but here's a few other links you might find of interest: Special:Longpages; Special:Shortpages; and Page history statistics tool.--Fuhghettaboutit 22:11, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Font Weirdness

I installed a bunch of fonts into Windows Vista last night and it appears to have mucked with how Wikipedia is displayed in IE7. Thus far the problem has appeared only on Wikipedia. I also know that the browser text size is set to Medium.

FWIW, Firefox does not appear to be afflicted. Only IE7.

Here's how things used to look:
Image:Xpanmanx_good_wiki_fonts.jpg

And here's how it looks now:
Image:Xpanmanx_bad_wiki_fonts.jpg

The difference is most visible in the line of hyperlinks that begins with "Welcome Tutorial Cheatsheet." The smaller text is barely readable, especially when I'm browsing articles.

Does anyone know how I can quickly set things right again without upending my world? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xpanmanx (talk • contribs) 22:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to Tools -> Internet Options and click on Fonts at the bottom. Make sure that the fonts haven't changed your settings. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 22:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. The fonts are set to Times New Roman and Courier, which I suspect are the defaults. Interestingly, when I used the accessibility options to turn of font styles and sizes in the webpage, things looked better...but alas, only on Wikipedia. Google News looked pretty silly. Any other ideas? xpanmanx 22:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps try un-installing and re-installing the font or restarting your computer? NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Definitely restarted several times since this happened. Don't know which font is causing the problem. Very frustrating! xpanmanx 23:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

If nothing else works you could try System Restore or some equivalent if your computer has a recent restore point.--Fuhghettaboutit 23:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

/sigh, no recent restore point. What typeface does Wikipedia expect to use by default? I bet that it's either missing or corrupted and if I can drop a good copy in its place things will get better real quick. Thanks...12.25.236.118 15:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

(change to image links) --h2g2bob (talk) 16:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Signatures

I've seen a lot of people using (Talk | contribs) after their signature. How do I make my signature do this? Jeff Dahl 23:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

All the info you need is at WP:SIG. Good luck! GlassCobra 23:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

October 18

Editing

I have changed something about Paul Revere for reasons that i have, i would have changed it back to what it was before in about 3 days so by saturday and someone changed it back to what it was. What can i do to stop that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessie2289 (talk • contribs) 00:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It appears that you removed a large portion of the article (the edit in question is here). That is considered vandalism and was reverted. Even if you intend to remove it, it is still vandalism. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 00:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Siting pages

How does one site bibliographical information for a Wikipedia page?

                                      by 65.54.97.194 00:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. It's not clear whether you are asking about providing citations for information in a Wikipedia article, or citing a Wikipedia article somewhere else. If the former, please see Wikipedia:Citing sources, Wikipedia:Citing sources/example style and Wikipedia:Citation templates and it would be a good idea to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources first, so you know what sources are acceptable. If the latter, you can access citation information by clicking on the "Cite this article" link which appears at the bottom of the toolbox menu on the left hand side of any article.--Fuhghettaboutit 01:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The French and Indian War

How did the colonists react to the French threats —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wenlirui (talk • contribs) 01:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to the Wikipedia Reference Desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. We apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems. Please attempt the problem yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. Thank you. GlassCobra 02:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

trying to add my link to already published article that already contains my name.?

Here is the link to the link I am trying to edit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_psychic_challenge I was one of the mentioned psychics on the show and I am trying to add my link like 3 other psychics did, but it will not add my website link. I have tried several different times. But need your help please. Any advice would be welcomed thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.169.217.121 (talk) 02:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, more likely than not, none of those psychics' links belong there. I'll go and take them out. GlassCobra 02:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Citing and use of "accessdate"

when citing a website, by using {{cite web}}, am I correct to assume that "date" is the date the page was created, and that "accessdate" is the date I looked at the webpage. So for example if I looked at a webpage today written July 22 2004, I put that date under "date" and today's date under "accessdate"?

I ask because I'm doing an article right now and every time I make a reference, a particular user comes along and changes the reference so that the "accesssdate" is the date the webpage was written, and deletes the "date" tag and the date I put in under "accessdate". If I've been doing references wrong, then so be it, but for as long as I've been doing them, and from what I see from every other citation on Wikipedia, I'm doing it right. -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are using the accessdate and date parameters correctly. See Template:Cite web#Required parameters for more information. --Silver Edge 03:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou. Can I ask what I can do about this other user who keeps changing the references? (The page is List of 7th Heaven episodes, and the references I'm talking about are those in the section headed "Seasons". -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Would it be considered vandalism by the user (I don't want to say her name here) -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism requires bad faith, and I don't think that was the intent. It's probably a misunderstanding. Leebo ^T/C 03:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the changes to reflect proper date (the article didn't even exist in 2004, so accessdate could not possibly have been back then lol), and I've left a nice note for the editor in question explaining the issue, with a link to the template's documentation. Ariel♥Gold 03:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks everyone. And thanks, Arielgold, saves me a job! :) -- Matthew Edwards | talk | Contribs 03:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I find what's happened to a page that used to be there, but now seems to have disappeared?

The specific page I was looking for was the one on "Idea Management" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.32.177.5 (talk) 03:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Idea Management was deleted because it had "No independent reliable sources". --Silver Edge 03:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

To expand on this: One of Wikipedia's three principal content policies is verifiability. If a page does not have reliable, third-party sources such as news articles, magazine articles, books, etc., written about it, then its notability can not be verified. Also review what Wikipedia is not for more information, as well as the help page. Hope that explains the issue! Ariel♥Gold 03:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Bios vs. memorials

I am confused about the writing and eventual use of wikipedia as a potential forum for discussing those that has passed. Specifically, what is the difference between a bio and a memorial? While I believe to know the answer, I wrote what I thought was a bio on Charles Gordon Dunbar, a prominent Canadian statistican and bon vivant, only to have it deleted as memorial only. Ironic as Charles Davidson Dunbar, after whom Charles Gordon was named, is given bio status. Second, if my original article (on Charles Gordon) fits the bio def'n, how do I get it reconsidered for wikipedia entry? Thanks for all the great work!!!--Celticboydave 04:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

According to the AfD discussion, the "memorial" part was only mentioned once. The main issue was the lack of verifiable material from reliable sources establishing the subject's notability. I've found one mirror site that still has your article on it, and I would have to agree - it reads like a "memorial" and not a "biography", because it doesn't make any claim about Charles being a notable figure, and reads more like the "he was a good man" speeches you give at a funeral than the neutral style that Wikipedia requires. Charles Davidson Dunbar, on the other hand, does require some cleanup, but has many claims to notability such as, for example, being the best in his field (military piper), and receiving a prestigious medal (the DCM). Charles Jnr's only claims to fame, according to his article, were working for a major Canadian advertising executive, and being fairly popular in a number of pubs. Confusing Manifestation 04:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

registered user

How can i became a registered user with wikimapia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.100.147.134 (talk) 06:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Click the red Wikimapia link in the top left hand corner at http://wikimapia.org and select login/register. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

EPABX

Why do we use sometimes AC power supply and sometimes DC power supply whwn we quote EPABX for a customer? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.160.64.235 (talk) 07:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. --ais523 08:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

copy right(copy a text from my PhD thesis to Wiki)

Dear Sir/Madam,

I noticed that the Sandbox modeling (physical or analogue modeling) is missing in Wiki. Can I copy a text from my PhD thesis and create and add this page to WIKI?

All the best

Faramarz —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farnil (talk • contribs) 10:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• I hope you don't mind, but I changed your userpage. You can link to articles within Wikipedia with a lot less code-writing. As for your question: No, I don't think it's a good idea. Not because of copyright issues. It's relatively easy to prove you have the copyright, but in all likelyhood, your thesis won't have the writing style required for an encyclopedic entry. It's better to use the sources of your thesis as references and use the text of your thesis to build an article from scratch. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
• I speak as an individual, not claiming that I represent anyone or Wikipedia. To submit some text on Wikipedia, you have to release your text under the GFDL. If you are ok with this then you can submit it. If its style is not encyclopedic, other editors may delete it or modify it. NerdyNSK 22:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

pronunciation

I continually come across symbols in Wikipedia that are intended to advise me of the pronunciation of a word. Unfortunately I have absolutely no idea of what sounds these symbols signify. I am sure that among linguists & scholars this 'alphabet' is perfectly comprehensible, but suspect that many readers are as baffled as I am. Would you please advise me where (presumably in Wikipedia itself) I can learn to read these symbols & may I suggest such a reference be provided on pages where it is used. Peter harlen 12:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to the International Phonetic Alphabet. You could try reading the article, and see if there are any links there that will help you with learning the sound of each character. Leebo ^T/C 12:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

"requesting on forgot password" - originally from RfF

I am recently created an account on 11-10-2007, but in this i am forgot my password. In this please help me and my e-mail address <email removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.246.233.130 (talk • contribs)

Hi. First of all, I don't think this is the right place. Try the Wikipedia Help desk. Second, please do not give us your email address. This makes it public on Wikipedia and very public throughout the Internet, making you a potential target for spammers. We can reply through whatever page you editted on, or through your talk page. Third, please sign your comments using 4 tildes. A tilde looks like this: ~ . You are welcome to edit without an account, although using an account has its benefits. Next time, if you choose to create a new account, please make a password that is hard to guess but easy for you to remember, or check the "remember me" box. I am going to post this comment at the Help Desk, so you will probably find any answers there. ~AH1^(TCU) 12:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

If you gave an email address when you created the account, you can retrieve a new password by going to Special:Userlogin, typing in your username, and clicking on 'Email new password'. --ais523 12:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Could an admin lend a hand in helping me stop a scam?

Bit of a long-winded title, but hey ho.

What this post here's about is a scam underway in which a share trading company based in Geneva phones British homes, offers to sell them x number of shares, takes their money, and then dissapears, usually with a fairly large chunk of their life savings.

The latest scam involves a company, AA Energy Systems, who don't as yet have a Wikipedia page. Now, what I would like to do would be to write a page for them, all in typical Wikipedia fashion, add a paragraph at the bottom explaining that their name is being used for a scam, and then have an Admin protect it from further editing, so the people orchestrating the scam can't edit out my warning paragraph, or edit the page to their advantage.

I appreciate that this sort of thing isn't quite what Wikipedia is about, but at the end of the day, t'would be an extra paragraph that could save someone £40,000, and wouldn't that be worthwhile? - unreadablecharacters 13:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. It sounds like a noble cause, and an article about the company and its documented scams, if notable and verifiable by reliable sources, would certainly not be inappropriate, but protection of the article in that way isn't consistent with the Wikipedia:Protection policy, which preserves the core concept that Wikipedia may be freely edited by anyone. The best you could probably do is monitor the page for unconstructive edits, but, of course, even then you'd need to be careful not to guard against good faith contributions. Overzealous page monitoring is also against policy. Finally, we do have to be sure that the article is neutral in tone. We can say "SoandSo has been cited X number of times for fraud", but we can't say "SoandSo is a rotten huckster". :) Good luck. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, protection is probably not needed. Anyone who reverts a documented paragraph about the scam will be leaving tracable evidence for the authorities. -208.226.76.43 20:31, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

User page name calling

A random user left me an offensive message. How would I report this? --Endless Dan 13:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the message. The comment was borderline: offensive, clearly a violation of our expectations of civility, but probably not ban-worthy at this point. Take a look, though, at WP:CIV and the suggestions there when civility is abandoned. --Orange Mike 13:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again Orangemike. I mentioned this yesterday, but I'm definitly not popular in WP:PW. For future reference, when someone violate WP:CIV how should I handle it? I'm not trying to get folks banned, but I don't want to be bothered either. --Endless Dan 13:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Civility sets out some general responses. We do have specific templates for this. I left a personalized message at the user's page on this occasion, but ordinarily use the {{subst:uw-npa1}} hierarchy set out at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Moonriddengirl. I will remember that page in the future. --Endless Dan 13:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've had to use them more often than I care to remember. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

How can I embed a youtube video in a wiki page?

How can I embed a youtube video in a wiki page? I realize I can put a link to a youtube video in the page, but I'd rather have the video embedded within the page, to be viewed without having to leave the page. Jfmxl 13:36, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki doesn't support that, and it is bad idea anyway. Post link, or if it is free video, you can upload it in OGG Theora format. Suva Чего? 13:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

But please don't link to YouTube images which violate somebody's copyright. Corvus cornix 18:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Image Deletion

On image:4th CAG at USMC War Memorial August 2004.jpg -- how do I delete version dated 06:29, 26 September 2007? I want to only keep version 06:39, 26 September 2007. FieldMarine 14:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You don't really need to delete it, as I see you uploaded a newer version, which is logged on that page. - Rjd0060 14:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...however, when you enlarge the image from the article, you get the older version that should be deleted. FieldMarine 15:08, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It could be cached on your computer (your web browser sometimes keeps copies of images to avoid downloading them more than once). See bypassing your cache. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Kernel problem

what means kernel 32 error? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tukulija (talk • contribs) 14:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that is a question about Wikipedia. You should try the Reference Desk instead. - Rjd0060 14:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

problems

how can you e-mail this site to your e-mail address? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neyowifey25 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It is unclear what you mean. You cannot send an article as e-mail; Wikipedia does not provide that feature, and is unlikely to in the future. You can, of course, copy the URL of any given article and e-mail that wherever you wish. --Orange Mike 15:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#News for some things you can sign up to receive in e-mail from Wikipedia. If you want to read Wikipedia offline, see TomeRaider. --Teratornis 16:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The easier way is simply to copy and paste. NerdyNSK 22:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

What browser are you using? IE has an option to do this. Corvus cornix 18:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

how to revert to previous version

List of inventors is being vandalized right now.

I don't know how to revert the edits back to a clean version without having to 'undo' each one - there are a bunch of them.

Also, this person probably should be warned/blocked, but I'm nervouse to do it wrong.

thanks, NatalieOne 16:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Click on an edit you trust (in this case, by Acroterion). The older version appears. Click on Edit this page. Save. — I have now done this for you, and I think that the anonymous vandals have already been warned. Thanks very much. Bessel Dekker 16:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Sidebar links

I have "underline links" activated in my settings. Until today, that caused all links except those on the left-hand sidebar to be underlined. Suddenly, it's causing them to be underlined too. I preferred how it was before, with the sidebar links not underlined, but with everything else underlined. Is there any way I can restore this appearance, through settings, monobook, or something else? -Elmer Clark 16:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The following is untested, but will hopefully work:

.portlet li a {text-decoration:none;}

Add the code to your monobook.css, bypass your cache, and post back here to let us know if it worked! --ais523 12:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding Cast name

Hello,

I wanted to verify how to add my name to the cast list of "Indecent Proposal" You can verify me on IMDB

Name: Pamela Holt

Thank you, Pamela —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pamela holt (talk • contribs) 16:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

replied at user talk. 71.174.226.117 17:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You can click the "edit this page" button and add yourself, together with a link to your IMDB page or other reference proving that you were really in the cast list. You can do so either anonymously or under your real name (your current user account). If you choose to do that edit under your real name, then some Wikipedians may feel uneasy because we regularly have problems with people coming here and writing biased stories about themselves or bragging about how great they are. However, if your edit is factual, then I see no problem with putting information about yourself on Wikipedia, but that's just me and other Wikipedians may dislike it. Another way is to use the article's talk page to suggest including your name in the article. NerdyNSK 22:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've listed Pamela Holt for AfD. Not notable enough for an article. Corvus cornix 18:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

COI Question

I am a public relations professional working for the federal govt. I need to correct an error in fact on our organization's wiki page. (The director has changed, and press regularly reference wikipedia, then seek interviews with the wrong individual, or worse, write about the wrong individual without checking.) There is no talk page for my organization. No public document exists to reference the new name.

I want to be above board in correcting factual errors, and if I make changes, I'll do it from my work account and identify myself. I'm not interested in sneaky ways to make backdoor changes. But I'm concerned about tacitly making edits, because recently, govt employees have been butchered in the press and public forums for editing their own organization's pages (because that can obviously be tracked now). What is my best course of action? I've read FAQ and COI policy.

(Specifically, the "acting director" for the "Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity" is "Tim Murphy," not "Steve Nixon," who promoted out of the position. Tim is in "acting" status, so we aren't dropping a press release. If someone could give me a fish on this, that's fabulous, but teach me to fish too. This isn't the only factual error on pages whose organizations I represent, just the biggest headache.)

65.222.202.26 17:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)Trey Brown

When changing factual information, especially in the presence of a real or perceived conflict of interest, you should have a reliable source to cite so that other users can verify what you're saying is true. If only people within the organization are aware of this, it can't be changed because it can't be verified with a source. You'll need a source that indicates the change, as would anyone even without a possible COI. This is definitely the right way to approach it. Kudos on taking the appropriate caution. You can create the talk page if you want to start a dialogue on the issue. Leebo ^T/C 17:04, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

While Google is not always reliable, it seems to me that these [4] sites are fairly conclusive, if colleagues are convinced? I suggest we make the change, linking to one or more of these sites. Bessel Dekker 17:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Trey, I would also advise you to create your own Wikipedia editor identity, probably as TreyBrown, and practice the same frank disclosure on your User page that you have here and in your edits. You seem clear on our conflict of interest rules; would that all employees were as thorough. --Orange Mike 18:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Speaking as an individual with no affiliation with Wikimedia, the best way is to update your organisation's webpages including the new director's name, then come here on Wikipedia and use your organisation's official webpage as a reference. Some Wikipedians may still feel uneasy about this because we regularly have problems with people using Wikipedia to promote themselves, but if your edit is factual and useful for the reader then I see no problem with it, although other users may have different opinion. NerdyNSK 23:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

clearing search history

How do I clear the history of topics searched? For example, enter "a" in the the Go / Search box and it displays all the past seach entries I've made beginning with the letter a, some of which I don't want another user of the shared PC to see. I've tried IE Tools / Internet Options but history still shows in Wikipedia search box. Wikithn88 17:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC).

• In Tools, isn't there an option right at the top of the scroll down menu? Sorry, mine is in Dutch, but it should read something like "Remove history". Bessel Dekker 17:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• • Tools / Internet Options gives a dialogue box with lots of options. This clears out the browser's Adress bar history and Yahoo! Toolbar history, but not the history in the Search box on the Wikipedia Home Page itself. Wikithn88 17:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC).
    • But Internet Options is right at the bottom of the scroll down menu. Look at the first entry at the top instead. Bessel Dekker 18:00, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

70.18.210.95 19:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)Why was this article deleted? They are legit.

Why was this page deleted: The Smith Bros. aka the BEATSMITHz. All of their work is legitmate and verifiable. The Smith Bros. aka the BEATSMITHz page, should not have been deleted. They are a legitmate production team. It's not a fan site, it's an information site. If this is the case then all of the artists they've worked with, as internally linked and noted on the page, should be deleted also. [5]

[6]

[7]

You can read why the article was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Smith Bros. aka the BEATSMITHz. It can be recreated, but should conform to guidelines on notability, noting the requirement for verifiability through reliable sources, and tone. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and note, please, that it should not be recreated under that title, unless the duo's official name is "The Smith Bros. aka the BEATSMITHz". It doesn't seem to conform to the guidelines on naming. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

A quick question

Can I trust Wikipedia with its articles? --Question Bloke 19:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Researching with Wikipedia is the best answer to that question. Criticism of Wikipedia is also helpful.--chaser - t 19:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You might also be interested in Why Wikipedia is so great and Why Wikipedia is not so great. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You can trust no one, not even academic journals. Errors and bias may be everywhere, even in scientific peer-reviewed papers. On Wikipedia, articles that have been appeared on the main page or haven been given featured status are usually more reliable, while articles that don't attract much attention seem not to be so good, especially if the first author was biased. NerdyNSK 23:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion

I recently created a page for Southern Hills Baptist Church, a prominent Southern Baptist Church in south Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. I figured it would be a great addition to Wikipedia because of the number of people attend. It would be great to get to learn about the history of the church, the former pastors, and current numbers. It was "soeedy deleted" because it contained nothing that explained why it was significant. I just created it!! Give me a little bit to finish my thoughts. Geez... can I get it back? I'd like to continue to update it and eventually explain why this chruch is influential in its area and how it is positively affecting the world. Is there any reason I can't remake the page, and if I do.. will it just be re-deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwojo13 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I have placed the contents of the deleted article at your user page. I will leave a note on your talk page within a few minutes to give you some pointers on how to develop this into an article consistent with Wikipedia's guidelines. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

links underlinded when I log in.

When I visit wikipedia without logging in, all the links are blue but not underlined. When I log into my account, all the links are suddenly underlined. How can I make this not so? I do not want them to be underlined.

Tangytoad 20:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC) Tangytoad

Go to Special:Preferences, click the Misc tab, and select a different option for "Underline links." --Teratornis 21:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Before you log in, your Web browser software on your PC controls the appearance of links. When you log in, the appearance of links is controlled by MediaWiki, the software running on Wikipedia's servers. NerdyNSK 23:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

How can one import math in Word or HTML or LaTeX

I've been looking for quite a while and can't find a way to upload a physics topic I have written an article on for Wikipedia. The original article is in Word, but I have also exported it to HTML. When I tried your quick and dirty converter (cutting HTML and pasting) into Wiki-whatever, all the equations got lost. I can also export the Word file into LaTeX, if necessary.

There are 21 main equations, plus lots of equation-like symbols throughout the text. Re-writing all this in your text box with the suggested math symbology would be a very time consuming effort I'm not into.

Is there any way to simply upload what I've already done?

I want to augment a stub that is only 3 paragraphs or so to 3-4 pages of completeness on the topic.

Finally, I'm not sure about this Help Desk thing, and hope I can find it. I was told to go to my talk page and input the need help text (which I did), to get someone who would chat with me right there. Well, when Idid that I then got a message that said input your question below, but there was no text box in which to input the question! I clicked on another link and ended up here. Not so user friendly for a newcomer.

Thanks for any help. Bob108 21:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bob. Wikipedia has disabled the usage of some HTML markup on its pages in order to keep it clean. If the HTML that you tried to paste did not work, the only way to put the equations in Wikipedia is probably through the suggested math markup. Sorry about that. --דניאל - Dantheman531 21:55, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia allows LaTeX formatting. See Wikipedia:LaTeX. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:03, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Do be aware, though, that Wikipedia is not a place for original research of any kind. --Orange Mike 23:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Keeping non-English text.

I have been attempting to add material to the "Polyushko Pole" page.When I preview the page after my additions I see that some of the original text (see below) in Cyrillic has been changed to all question marks. I don't want the page to lose this valuable material, so I did not proceed with my changes. How can I make tha changes without destroying previous material? Thx Louis Fried

Полюшко-поле, полюшко, широко поле,
Eдут по полю герои,
Эх, да красной армии герои.

Девушки плачут,
Девушкам сегодня грустно,
Милый надолго уехал,
Эх, да милый в армию уехал.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Llfried (talk • contribs) 21:22, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• You may be using a Web browser software package that doesn't support UTF-8, or you may have loaded the wrong font packages on your PC. There is also a slight possibility that the text in the Wikipedia page, or more accurately its MySQL database entry, is wrongly formatted, although this is very rare, and it is 99.99% sure that the problem lies on the client PC. Try using another PC to edit that article. NerdyNSK 23:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• You can edit a single section by clicking the edit link to the right. You can edit the lead by first clicking the edit link for the first section and then replace section=1 with section=0 in the browser address bar. Click "Show changes" to get an idea whether there are problems. If you see red characters in places you haven't edited then don't save. You can suggest changes on the discussion page for the article, but some pages get no replies there. PrimeHunter 23:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Help?

Hi, umm... I just received a message from a Wikipedia user. How do I delete it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.92.149.78 (talk) 21:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

What you received was a warning, regarding your unconstructive edit to Mouse. Notices and warnings are given to help you understand policies and guidelines on Wikipedia, and to guide you to help pages, as well as the sandbox where you can experiment. While you are free to remove these messages, it is preferable that you archive them. Also, know that they will remain in the history, and if you continue to edit disruptively, there is a chance that you could be blocked temporarily from editing. Please review what Wikipedia is not, and the help pages to learn how to help the project. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold 21:52, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

You can delete it by clicking the "edit this page" tab at the top. However, it is a serious warning that you received. Deleting messages from your talk page is allowed, however archiving is preferred. - Rjd0060 21:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Even if you delete it, it will remain in the page's history for everyone to see. NerdyNSK 23:11, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

It's possible that they may be referring to the new messages notification bar, from what I understand, even though Bug 9213 is resolved, there still may be some minor caching issues with anons, causing the bar to get "stuck" on certain pages. At least that's the impression I've gotten from Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism/Bug_ID_9213#Fixed.3F, which is now resolved. Though all first hand tests that I've preformed have suggested that 9213 is completely resolved. In which case, try bypassing your cache (press ctrl F5, should work on all browsers)--VectorPotential^Talk 23:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Article about John Hersey, author of Hiroshima

The last sentence of the article is redundant. The same information is already in the second paragraph. The reference used in the last sentence might be used as source for the second paragraph. However, the source code for the article contains many elements that I do not understand, so I didn’t edit the article. --Phillicia Cattertails 21:33, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed this. Thanks for noticing it! You can learn more about how to format citations at WP:CITE, and WP:FOOT, as well as how to place references into templates (that allow for a more standardized look, as well as adding additional information) at WP:CIT. Cheers! Ariel♥Gold 21:56, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

• Are you sure this is not a case of Wikipedia:Summary style? - Mgm|^(talk) 22:01, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Does deleting the "unencyclopedic" template from a page count as Vandalism?

The reason I'm asking is that I'm trying to tag Imaginationland#Character References in Imaginationland as unencyclopedic, since that's what it quite obviously is. However, everytime I try to add it, it gets removed by an anonymous editor. If it qualifies as vandalism, I can keep adding it. However, if it does not, then I cannot because that violated 3RR. Any help, both on the question as well as fixing the article would be greatly appreciated. Dlong 21:48, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

According to the edit history, you (User:Dlong) haven't made any contributions to that page. To answer your question though, if the template is justified (properly used) and somebody keeps removing it (especially an IP user) that would be considered vandalism. - Rjd0060 21:51, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. That helps. I actually have edited the page quite a bit, but there are a ridiculous number of IP users editing the page, so it's been pushed quite a bit back. Dlong 21:57, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, there you are. A couple pages back. I see that a lot of IP users edit that page. Hmmm. I am going to be leaving a comment on your talk page in a minute, so you may want to check that. - Rjd0060 21:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you can try discussing in the article's talk page. For me, an edit is vandalism if it destroys the educational value of an article or removes parts of it that should be there for legal reasons. Does the unencyclopedic tag adds educational value to the article? I say yes because improving the reader's understanding of the level of reliability of some material is part of the education process. So, yes, if someone keeps removing that tag lots of times, and there are obvious reasons why the tag was put there in the first place, then its removal is vandalism, unless the person(s) performing the tag's removal sincerely believe that you added them for no good reason, in which case the proper way to handle the issue is to discuss on talk. However, given that the other editor is an anon IP, the chances are that you have statistically more probability of being on the right side. NerdyNSK 23:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

WXXS Article Renovation Request

76.118.247.91 22:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I am the person who wrote the article for WLTN-AM, WLTN-FM, and WXXS. I notice someone re-wrote my WLTN-AM and WLTN-FM articles to make them both look more encyclopedic. Whoever did that did not do so for my WXXS article. I left some comments toward the bottom of the WXXS Discussion Page. For any of you Wikipedian critics out there who enjoy renovating articles to make them look more encyclopedic, I am letting you know that just because I wrote that article doesn't mean it's all mine. I have its current version saved on a Microsoft Word document. If you feel like it, please read the WLTN-AM and WLTN-FM articles, than the discussion page and see if there's a way you can re-write it to make it sound non-objective. The station has no website and no contact information, nor does it have online record of its format but as Mr mark taylor noted, it takes personal listening. I stayed at a motel room for 5 weeks last fall recording it and the format I considered for it after consistent, thorough listening was Diverse Hot AC / Top 40 Variety. This is because they instead of playing only the Mainstream Top 40 they also play the billboard hits from all the different seasons of all the years past of the mid-1990s through the early 2000s. The Mainstream Top 40 still gets its airplay on WXXS Kiss 102.3 but I noticed (as a physical listener of the station) that the hours of 3PM through 9PM on weekdays (late-afternoon-through-early-evening listing period) are the hours when the current Mainstream Top 40 songs get their airplay on WXXS Kiss 102.3, usually all at once (like a New Music segment). Since there was no way to cite that detail, I left that (and many other little details) out of the article. I strive to not make my articles look too much like advertisements but need help (as you will see if you read the article).

If there are no sources to verify the info in the article, the info should not be there. "I listened to it myself" is not a source and could be considered original research, which is not allowed here. Mr.Z-man 22:53, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you can reference some government's licence allowing these stations to operate, just to prove that they at least exist in reality. NerdyNSK 23:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

October 19

Two notes about Wikitext

1) Is there any difference between <br> and <br/> (or <br />?
2) In a wikitable, does the end of a cell automatically cancel such a tag as <small>? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 00:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

1. Yes, <br /> is preferable, because it's the most valid.

   Why? No other HTML or XML tags I know have spaces in them and when I first saw people changing br to br/, it was also the first time I saw the closing slash at the end of the tag. Never seen another tag like it. They all have the same effect. Why would the tag taking the most space be the correct one? - Mgm|^(talk) 07:37, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

   The slash at the end is XML for a self-closing tag; that is, one which doesn't have a matching close tag and just does something at the point it's written. (<ref /> (repeat previous reference) is distinct from <ref> (add new reference), so in some cases the distinction is important; missing out the slash when repeating a previous reference causes part of the page to be blanked, which is becoming something of an FAQ here at the Help Desk.) If you write <br> (old fashioned HTML), MediaWiki corrects it to <br /> (the correct XHTML way to do it) in output, so it doesn't actually matter which way you write it. --ais523 09:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

2. Yes, tags like small should generally be closed from one cell to the next. It's probably best to just specify CSS for particular cells, rows, or the whole table, if this is the desire, though. You can use code like so:

{| class="wikitable"
|-
|<big>Big text.</big>
|Normal text
|- style="font-size:smaller;"
|small text
| style="text-decoration:underline;" |more small text, but underlined
|}

to make

Big text.	Normal text
small text	more small text, but underlined

Hope that helps, Nihiltres^(t.l) 01:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Date of registration

Is there a page at which I can see on what date I registered as a user here? Hallpriest9 (Talk | Archive) 01:27, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Check the log page of your contributions. But to save you the effort:

14:45, April 7, 2007 Hallpriest9 (Talk | contribs) New user account

-SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 01:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

How can I edit a list page?

I tried to edit this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Self-help_books

but when the editor opens it doesn't show the list of books I wish to add to. I'm obviously missing something but I found no guidance in the FAQs. Thanks in advance for any help. EdX20 02:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to the page of the book you wish to add and add the following code to the bottom of the page: [[Category:Self-help_books]] Make sure you have the code alphabetized too(Category:A is before Category:B). SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 02:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Categories are automatically generated by the database from a list of all articles containing the category name. Due to this, it's impossible to add something to a category unless a corresponding article exists. If the book you want to add doesn't have an article, that would have to come first. Leebo ^T/C 03:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

For more details, see: Help:Category. For unbelievably more details, see: WP:EIW#Cat. As I mentioned elsewhere, categories tend to be one of the more confusing features here to new users, so you may want to read Help:Category a few times over a few days to let it sink in. --Teratornis 04:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I should add that while the page you called a "list" is really a category, we also have "list" pages that work the way you expect: as manually-editable lists of links to other pages. See: Wikipedia:Lists for an introduction to those kinds of list pages, and WP:EIW#Lists for all the mind-numbing details. --Teratornis 04:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Cross Reference Guide

Is there a cross reference guide? I'm new at this stuff. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.239.239.82 (talk) 04:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It's a little hard to interpret your question, because we don't really use the term "cross reference" in the context of editing on Wikipedia. Instead we talk mainly about links and categories. (Wikipedia does not have page-oriented cross-reference commands of the kind you may have seen in document-production tools aimed at creating printed books, such as DocBook and FrameMaker.) If you refer to adding links between articles, as you edit articles, see Help:Link and Wikipedia:Build the web. Categories tend to confuse new editors; I had to read Help:Category several times to understand it. For lots of information about every aspect of editing on Wikipedia, see the Editor's index. --Teratornis 04:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Musicals by Nationality Categories

We're running into an issue over at WikiProject Musical Theatre in terms of how to categorize the articles on musicals. I'm not sure of where else to ask for help. If anyone knows where to ask questions for opinions about categories, I'll go there to ask. If anyone here can help, please look at our talk page. There are three separate sections delineating the issues. It would be easier to read everything there than for me to explain all of them here. If you can either direct me where to go for help or help us out over there, it would be a great help. Thanks! —  MusicMaker5376 04:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. :) My own general theory is that the people who watch a policy page are likely to be pretty familiar with the policy and its practice, so that's the kind of question I would probably pose at Wikipedia talk:Categorization. I'd come over and give you a hand myself, but I'm not that up on categories. Good luck!--Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Will do! —  MusicMaker5376 13:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

hi, I work for a company, we make a new tele-robotic tank systems

can we post the product class and the systems it uses?

This is a pure white paper information without reference to people or companies making this product, or do I need to referense them and it?

or should people and companies, refernse to works by people and universities be mention to refernce orginal research for such class of new warfare?

I have read some of the information about posting it is not completely clear? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harrisonjford (talk • contribs) 05:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly that you're proposing to write an article about a product, the article would be governed by the notability guidelines on companies. The rule of thumb here is noting whether the product has received significant or widespread coverage in secondary sources that are reliable and independent of the company (excluding company PR releases and information solely available on the company website—these sources may be used for additional information after notability has been established by secondary sources). Newspaper or journal articles and scholarly texts are some good things to look for here. Other sources may be appropriate, too. You can read more about the types of sources to use or avoid at the "Verifiability" policy.

You don't specifically need to list the manufacturers of the product, although that sounds like it could be valuable information, but you do need to make sure that the information you have is fully referenced.

If you are able to assemble necessary sources to assert notability, you may certainly create such an article, although as you are closely associated with a company that produces the product, you should read over our conflict of interest guideline. If you choose to write the article yourself, you'll want to be particularly careful to approach it neutrally and without undue promotion.

Before establishing the article, please search Wikipedia to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Help:Starting a new page should give you all the guidance you need, but you might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article. Please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Good luck, and happy editing. If this doesn't answer your question, please let us know. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Sign in

Why is it not possible for all those smart people linked to this site to figure out a SIMPLE way for the "Sign in"? I am just sick and tired to remember all those dozens of log-in names and passwords. I cannot use my standards because they are already used (perhaps by myself, but I have forgotten my password). For me, the log-in / password nightmare is the greatest nuisance of the Internet - even worse than SPAM or Viruses.

By the way, I am not going to install some arcane password administration software that takes me 5 hours to set it up! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.44.169.29 (talk) 11:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Sticky notes can be helpful. Or, if you're on the go, a pocket "cheat sheet". :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I click "Remember me" when I log in on my home computer and then I never log in or out again. PrimeHunter 13:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

my page

hi,

someone has written a page about me (Sean Caldwell) on wikipedia, which i would rather not have on the net. I've tried deleting the text a few times but cannot permenently get rid of it. If you could help me do so i would be very grateful, as it is an invasion of privacy.

Many thanks, sean caldwell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.105.118 (talk) 11:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Generally speaking, articles aren't deleted unless they fall into the cases shown by the deletion policy; if you think that there is a problem with the article that would require its deletion under the normal processes (for instance, if you think you are not notable enough for an article), you could follow the normal deletion procedures (proposed deletion and/or articles for deletion). I suggest that it may be better to contact the Wikipedia volunteers who answer emails about similar things; see Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject), which recommends sending an email to info-en-q@wikimedia.org. Note that in the past, articles have not always been deleted just because the person who they're about objects (just like newspapers sometimes run stories about people who don't particularly want to be in the news). I hope that helps to clarify matters. --ais523 11:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about adding relevant external links to date related pages

I have a general information/satire web site and started adding external links on pages such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_26. I put a link to the relevant page ie (* theVoiceofReason.com's On This Day) in the external links section but after inputting a few of these was told I was entering spam.

I created an account (GaryTheReason) and the same thing happened again.

I am not inputting spam, I genuinely believe readers would be interested in the pages I was inputting. Is it possible to get cleared to add these pages please?

Many thanks, Gary Smith —Preceding unsigned comment added by GaryTheReason (talk • contribs) 11:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia. :) The guidelines on advertising talk a little bit specifically about accounts that seem to exist only to add links to websites. Particularly when the website is yours, this falls into the category of "conflict of interest". I can well see why you think these links may be appropriate, although they might also be unnecessary since April 26 (for example) already has three other "On This Day" links. If you think the links have something substantial to contribute to the articles, given your connection to the site, the external link policy suggests that you bring it up on the articles' talk pages and let other editors decide to add the links if they agree. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Homepage

How to make Wikipedia my homepage? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.87.197.210 (talk) 11:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

• It depends on your browser. On Internet Explorer this is under the option "Internet Options" in the "Tools" menu. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) That will depend on your browser; look for an 'Options', 'Internet Options' or 'Preferences' setting (often on the 'Tools' menu), and enter http://en.wikipedia.org as your homepage there if you want Wikipedia's Main Page as your homepage, or http://www.wikipedia.org if you want the search portal as your homepage. --ais523 11:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

At least according to questions asked at this help desk in the past, many users prefer to have it set so they receive a random Wikipedia article as their homepage. If you'd like that, follow the instruction above but use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random as the link.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

turn a page into a disambiguation list

Hi

I tried to ammend a page today and messed it up. There was already a page for [Graham Pearce- australian rugby player] and and I tried to add a page for myself [Graham pearce- UK comics writer artist] but it didn't work. I then tried to turn it into a disambiguation page but that failed.

can you help?

194.150.177.9 11:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC) Graham pearce

I have cleaned it up for you. The dab page can be found at Graham Pearce and the old page can be found at Graham Pearce (rugby league). Woodym555 12:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

How do I center text?

Title is self explanatory. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randomblue (talk • contribs) 12:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It depends on where and why.

If you just want to center a paragraph,
the easiest method is to use the {{center}} template.

If you want to center cells in a table,	use style="text-align:center"
on the table,	row or cell.

These are the main methods of centering things. Note that centering text in an article, outside tables, is usually not a good idea for style reasons. Hope that helps! --ais523 12:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for responding. In fact, I am trying to centre mathematical text. This is what I get : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Randomblue, please could you help me with style and presentation. Randomblue 12:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

In that case, I suggest {{center|the maths that you're trying to center}} is probably the best way to do it. --ais523 12:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Translate article

Dear firneds,

Id like to translate this article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merak_Mail_Server.

To brasilian portuguese. We are official representatives for IceWarp Merak in Brazil.

How can I do that?

Thanks, Flavio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.53.110.239 (talk) 12:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Transl for general information about translating articles on Wikipedia. However, you did not specify what you want the output format of the translated article to be. Are you looking to put the translated copy on your corporate Web site, or print it on flyers to distribute to your customers? Or do you want to add the translated article to the Portuguese Wikipedia? The last option might be more useful, if Merak Mail Server is not already there in Portuguese. Then you could simply give your customers a link to the Portuguese article. --Teratornis 15:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

If you only need a rough translation to Portuguese, you can use {{Google translation}}, like this:

• {{Google translation|pt|en|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merak_Mail_Server|Merak Mail Server in broken Portuguese}}

which gives:

• Merak Mail Server in broken Portuguese

--Teratornis 15:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

And I'm certain the Portuguese Wikipedia has rules on conflict of interest similar to ours here. Please follow those rules. --Orange Mike 16:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

background color

What is the code name (like f7f8ff) for the light light turquoise that is the default background for user and wikipedia space pages (like this one)? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Calliopejen1 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it! (It's F8FCFF.) Calliopejen1 13:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I usually go here for hexadecimal color codes. Leebo ^T/C 14:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Wiki has an article including the hex codes. It is List of colors. - Rjd0060 14:42, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

And Web colors also. Absolute brilliance. :) PeaceNT 17:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

POPULAR SAYING

IS THE SAYING IN LIKE FLINT, OR IN LIKE FLYNN. WHERE DOES THIS SAYING COME FROM AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.98.95 (talk) 14:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

See Errol Flynn#Lifestyle. It's a popular belief that the phrase "in like Flynn" is based on his romantic exploits. There is a movie called In Like Flint, which might be a play on the popular phrase. In the future, take questions like this, that relate to facts, to the reference desk. Leebo ^T/C 14:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

searching for multiple categories

Is there a way to search for articles that are in multiple categories? I'd like to find any "featured" articles under any sub-category of the main category "Delaware". Elpiseos 14:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

There is actually one category that covers both things at once Category:FA-Class Delaware articles. Leebo ^T/C 14:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Go to WP:EIW#Cat and scroll down to the "Intersection of two categories:" heading. Some links to tools are there. I don't know if they will help. --Teratornis 14:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing a template

There is a list of easy listening stations under easy listening but when I tried to edit there was only a template. WEZV North Myrtle Beach, SC, should no longer be listed, although this might be debated. In my opinion, "easy listening" requires a certain number of instrumentals, and I didn't hear but one when I tried the station. Even adult standards tends to have more instrumentals than what I heard. WYEZ Murrells Inlet, SC, is definitely out of the format. Vchimpanzee 15:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

We have to use existing definitions rather than create our own. Your analysis of the station is original research and can't be used as justification to remove the station from the template. If the station identifies itself as easy listening, and independent sources do the same, then it's easy listening. Leebo ^T/C 15:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Also, if your question is simply about getting to the template, it's located at Template:Easy Listening Radio stations. That's the page you would need to edit to change it. Leebo ^T/C 15:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

As for how the station defines itself, I found a newspaper article but when I went to the newspaper's archives, I couldn't find that article. There is one possibility for finding the article I haven't tried, but the link might not work. I should have used the article as a source when the Wikipedia articles on WEZV and WYEZ were edited. But I didn't edit the Wikipedia article on WYEZ at the time I saw the newspaper article. Vchimpanzee 15:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

appropriateness of article subject

I am an unpaid intern at a small not for profit art gallery. It was suggested that I write a Wikipedia article about the gallery. I have spent a good deal of time reading through all the info on appropriateness of subject but am still on the fence.

Pros: -This gallery has an interesting history, springing up during the 1970's womens movement as a showcase for women artists and feminist art, and a reaction against the barrier for women artists to be shown in traditional galleries at the time. -It is referred to and discussed in several feminist art history books, and has at least a few limited edition academic books published regarding it, as in, written by Art Historian professors.

Cons: Conflict of interest by me writing it. Not noteworthy enough, since it is not well known.

Please let me know what you think! I don't want to write the article and then have it get deleted. Thanks, Mollificent Mollificent 15:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your diligence in researching Wikipedia's policies before jumping in, it's very refreshing. The number one thing you would need to write an article about the gallery is multiple independent reliable sources that you could cite to both establish notability and allow readers to verify the information. If you can provide sources, then the article will likely not be deleted. If you are worried about the COI, you could submit it for other Wikipedians to write by including the sources. Leebo ^T/C 15:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It sounds noteworthy enough, if it is covered in scholarly works and is the subject of academic books. If that can be verified with citations, notability should not be a concern, as notability is distinct from fame. As Leebo says, you could ask other Wikipedians to write the article, but if you choose to do so yourself just pay careful attention to the conflict of interest guidelines to ensure that you maintain a neutral tone and that your article is not overly promotional. As you assemble ideas, if you want to discuss them further you may want to take them to the drawing board. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Whether or not you choose to try writing an article on Wikipedia (and take a chance that it might get deleted), you can also look for other wikis that may accept your article. For example, see: wikiindex:Category:Art. Wikis that specialize in a particular subject area may accept a wider variety of articles in that subject than Wikipedia does. However, every wiki has its own requirements, and not every wiki spells out its policies and guidelines as clearly as Wikipedia does. Save a copy of your work on your own computer in any case. --Teratornis 16:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

• You have to be commended for reading the rules before starting the writing. Too many people don't do it. Has anyone not directly related to the gallery ever written about it? Has someone famous ever had an exhibition there? Those would be the most important questions to answer to determine if the place is noteworthy. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

One Rincon Hill

On the page for One Rincon Hill (in San Francisco) please change the architect name in left side bar to Solomon Cordwell Buenz. (not Solomon Cordwell Buenz & Associates).

Thank you, Stacy Connelly Marketing Manager Solomon Cordwell Buenz—Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.98.144.91 (talk) 16:13, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to change it. You can edit almost any article on Wikipedia by just following the Edit link at the top of the page. We encourage you to be bold in updating pages, because wikis like ours develop faster when everybody edits. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. You can always preview your edits before you publish them or test them out in the sandbox. If you need additional help, check out our getting started page or ask the friendly folks at the Teahouse. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I've copied your suggestion into Talk:One Rincon Hill. Next time, should you have any questions regarding an article on Wikipedia, you may address your comments at the discussion page of that article. :) PeaceNT 17:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting Account or Changing Username

I recently created a new account, and I made a mistake creating my username. I want to make an amendment to my username. How can I delete my account, with the intention of setting up a new one? Or, how can I amend or change my username? Thanks, Convex-one 16:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC).

You can't. Just sign up for a new account with the username you want. Friday (talk) 16:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:Or you might file a request at Wikipedia:Changing usernames. :) PeaceNT 16:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

That's a really, really silly thing to do with a new account. Why make work for someone else? Friday (talk) 16:49, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I freely admit I didn't look at their contributions, scratched that. Your suggestion is right on the nose. :) PeaceNT 16:54, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

"Lava lamp" listing

Media:Example.ogg

Good morning I read the Wikipedia listing under 'Lava lamp' this morning. I have found several errors/omissions I would request are corrected. Lava(r) is a brand of motion lamp. It is not simply a type of lamp. All non-Lava brand lamps that are similar in features are considered simply motion lamps. The blue and gold lamp pictured in the article is a non-Lava brand lamp.

There is also mention of our production in China and many product recalls. "Lava Lamps are currently made in main land China and several shipments have had to be held back for quality control reasons." The production in China is true, however several shipments being held back for quality reasons is slanderous and untrue.

We request that all the above listed erroneous information is corrected and/or removed from the listing immediately.

Any questions, please contact me directly. Thank you,

Joe Kostelc, CFA Controller Lava World International, Inc. A division of Haggerty Enterprises, Inc.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.176.47.158 (talk) 16:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 

I actually had the same conversation a while back; see here. Basically, the point is that 'lava lamp' is so much more common usage than 'motion lamp' that 'lava lamp' has become the name of the thing, not only of Lava brand lamps but of the various other lamps that are based off of the same concept. It has essentially been diluted, much like the trademark 'dumpster'. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 17:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I have added a {{fact}} tag to that unsourced statement, but everything else seems to be fine. - Rjd0060 17:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

The proper term for this is a genericized trademark. The article could make an effort to clarify that point, but you can't really fault people for not recognizing the generic nature of the trademark. Leebo ^T/C 17:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Higher Education

Dear Wikipedia, I have created an account and am ready and interestd in creating a Wikipedia page for our institution. How do get started?Madisonmedia 17:55, 19 October 2007 (UTC).

I would first recommend reading Help:Starting a new page. - Rjd0060 17:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to Wikipedia. You could start by browsing some of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. The most important ones are neutral point of view and attribution. With regard to NPOV, you need to be particularly wary of it when you are writing about your own institution. Such a situation represents a conflict of interest between your wish to display your institution in a particular way and Wikipedia's goal of being a neutral encyclopedia. You need to be very careful not to add bias to a subject you are close to. Technical information related to starting a new page can be found at Help:Starting a new page. Leebo ^T/C 18:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

how do you create a new page(where is the link?)

Ok, so I went onto the FAQ's and seen that my question, how to create a new page is very common. So I clicked on it and it diverted me to an artical about your first page, and although it gave loads of good advice about writing your new page and not just copying dirrectly from other sites etc. No where in this artical did it actually tell you how to do it in the context that I am refering, so I feel I should clarify.

I dont want tips on how to right a good artical, or the rules about your sources of information. I want to know where the link is to begin writing your new article. There should be a link in your user page, so that is is easy to navigate. I've spent a very frustrating 1/4 of an hour trying to find a link to begin writing an article, and had no joy.

I am sure its somewhere really obvious, but could someone let me know.

Thanks

--Gerardmcmanus 19:57, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

• You may start a new article by typing the title into the search box (top left of this, and any, page). Follow the instructions that will then appear. Bessel Dekker 20:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Starting a new page. Alternatively, you can use the search function. Leebo ^T/C 20:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Type the name of the article in the search bar to verify that it does not exist. If it doesn't exist, you will get a window saying

"No page with that title exists.

You can create this page or request it. "

Click create this page. However, I am concerned about your comment about not wanting the tips or rules. I assure you, if you create an inappropriate article, it will be speedily deleted. - Rjd0060 20:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't think he means that he has no intention of following policy, he's saying he's read most of the tips for creating new articles and just wanted info on the technical aspect. Leebo ^T/C 20:09, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, since we don't know, that serves as a "semi-warning". - Rjd0060 20:12, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

well just so you do know, I will follow the rules, and am grateful for the help, thanks guys! --Gerardmcmanus 20:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Two books with the same title

Yesterday I noticed that there are two novels with the same title, 1985 . One by Burgess and the other by Dalos as one can see. I wanted to start a seperate article for the book by dalos but I'm not sure how to create a new article when the title of the book is the same. I've read through the tutorials, searched the help desk, etc. Any help would be mucho appreciated. Woland37 20:14, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I believe that instead of just (novel), the two should be disambiguated into (Author novel), for each. Leebo ^T/C 20:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

That is correct. The current one should be moved to adhere to that format. - Rjd0060 20:18, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I've created the new page. Woland37, create your page at 1985 (György Dalos novel). I've also fixed the dab page. - Rjd0060 20:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Awesomes. Thanks. Woland37 20:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirection

What are the heiruistic rules that wikipedia uses for determining the entry that is displayed when a term that has multiple entries (i.e. a term that results in a link for "ABC (disambiguation)")? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.178.215.230 (talk) 20:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Disambiguation.↔NMajdan•talk 20:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

when a man likes a women

if a man wants to win a women over what does he need to do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.2.178 (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

This is not the place for personal life. Smartyllama 21:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) This page is for help with Wikipedia. If you're serious, consult a friend or something. Leebo ^T/C 21:58, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

He could be Tom Brady. If that's not an option, he could wait for Moore's law to cycle enough times to push Gynoids over Uncanny valley (they are so not there yet). However, the real question is what to do When a Man Loves a Woman (song). --Teratornis 22:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Flagging an article?

Hello, how does a user go about flagging an article for moderation? FACT50 22:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, moderation as in a dispute? You may want to try WP:MedCab or WP:RFC. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 22:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Or moderation, like to moderate who can edit a page; page protection? - Rjd0060 22:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It's not a dispute I have with anyone, just the fictional back story section of a bands article that I (and a few other users) feel is unneeded. However past attempts from various users trying to delete said section have just been undone by the people that update the article. FACT50 22:33, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

What is the page? -Rjd0060 22:36, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

scince

whodoes this professionhelp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.108.103 (talk) 22:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have a specific question about science, try the Science reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia only. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

One major application of science is healthcare; so it helps everybody. --h2g2bob (talk) 00:09, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Another major application of science is the computer which the questioner used to ask the question, and which we use to reply to the question. Presumably the questioner finds computing helpful enough to justify spending some money to obtain this help. In fact, the questioner probably spends most of his or her time in a largely artificial environment, surrounded by hundreds if not thousands of artifacts, all of which either resulted from centuries of painstaking application of the principles of critical thinking and the scientific method, or were shipped and distributed more efficiently thereby. Even simple hand-worked artifacts come from people who probably would not be alive today if modern technology were not sustaining an unnaturally high population of humans. One could argue that what we really value is technology rather than science, and while it is true you can have technology without science, none of the pre-scientific technologies were as good as the technology we have today. See, for example, stone tool. Science improves technology by augmenting pure empiricism with the guidance of sound theory. Science helps inventors invent without having to rely solely on trial and error, although trial and error continues to play a major part in invention. For example, science assures inventors that it is pointless to keep trying to build perpetual motion machines. Inventors who heed science will generally invent more and better things than inventors who ignore science. --Teratornis 12:15, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I might add that science has substantial entertainment value in addition to its practical value. For example, the science of astronomy has relatively few applications, in the sense that hardly anything farther away than geostationary orbit provides us with much of a basis for engineering here on Earth (although Near-Earth asteroids are certainly worth keeping an eye on, solar flares and other solar activity can affect us, and stars have been useful for Celestial navigation). Despite the lack of much in the way of practical application, astronomy has provided great entertainment for intellectually curious people since ancient times, and many children who took an interest in it went on to do useful work in science and engineering. --Teratornis 18:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

projet

my name is nazrul islam iam in 7 grade i cannot find this answer plase can you halp me thank you 1 wnat the personin this professiondos on a daily basis veterinary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.108.103 (talk) 23:04, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

See Veterinarian. Rockpocket 23:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Nazrul, it's nice to have you here. Rockpocket is right, veterinarian may be helpful. Also, if you have a specific question about something, you can ask at the Reference Desk. Hope this helps! Love, Neranei (talk) 23:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

projet

my name is islam i need halp tido my projet who does this profession help in veterinary thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.108.103 (talk) 23:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC) but i cant not find any answer halpme

Well, we've just about helped you all we can as Wikipedia does not do your homework for you. If you have a question about veterinarians, then ask at the Science reference desk or check out the Veterinarian article. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:15, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

veterinary

my name is babu i need help todo my projet halp me

how mucha person in this profession makeveterinary 
   thankyou  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.108.103 (talk) 23:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 

Sorry, but Wikipedia is not your assistant. - Rjd0060 23:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

This link from the U.S. Bureau of Labour Statistics should help you. Next time, please be more specific with your question so we know what you are looking for! Thanks, and make sure to ask questions like this at the reference desk. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

math

my name is tarun i need halp to do my math can you halp me 
 

  7+k
    -
    4=9  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.236.108.103 (talk) 23:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC) 

Instead of pretending to be a different person for each question, why don't you just make a single topic for help? Also, Wikipedia does not provide homework help. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 23:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

You should ask questions like this at the Reference Desk, and we are really not here to do your homework, but as I'm here, the first thing to do is combine the 7-4. This results in 3+k=9. As I presume you're finding K, you need to subtract 3 from 9, giving K to be 6. Love, Neranei (talk) 23:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually I think it is k over 4, which would mean that you would have to subtract 7, then multiply both sides by 4 to eliminate the fraction, giving the correct answer. Or it could just be bad formatting of 7-4. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 23:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

C'mon. This guy isn't serious. He has asked several questions saying he is somebody else (using a different name) but the IP shows it is the same user. - Rjd0060 23:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

October 20

Unable to edit entire article only sections.

For example I can not revert this vandalism. The edit request is simply ignored without error message: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Intel_Corporation&curid=14617&diff=165746222&oldid=165122858 Alatari 01:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind. Rebooting my machine seems to have fixed the problem. Very odd. Alatari 01:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

A category shows on the page, but not in "edit this page", so I can't find it to delete it

Hello, A category appears twice on a page and I'd like to remove the one which is a mistake -- a capitalized one does not link. But when I go to "edit this page", the incorrect category doesn't show up. Where is it? Page in question: Allen Kurzweil. I just want to erase it. Thank you, Alex Dunwoodie 01:45, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I removed it. It is under "edit this page" but for some reason it was at the very top of the page. There are some cats on the top and some on the bottom. I don't know why. - Rjd0060 01:48, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

It appears someone added the categories twice, to the top of the page, and to the bottom. Categories always go at the very bottom, so thanks to Rjd for fixing it. Ariel♥Gold 01:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)  Done, an editor decided to add the categories at the top and the bottom - and Rjd hadn't removed all of them when I got to it. That would be your problem. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 01:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I went back to do it, but got the edit conflict. Thanks. - Rjd0060 01:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

wikimapia

hi

how often do you update the map in wikimapia?

regards

Immanuel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.241.128.145 (talk) 02:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. A wiki is a site that uses wiki software as its operating platform. There are thousands of them. Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia that is run by the Wikimedia foundation, and undoubtedly the best known wiki in the world. There are sister projects such as Wiktionary (a free dictionary) and others (full list). For the answer to your question, thus, your best bet may be to ask at wikimapia, which is completely unaffiliated with Wikipedia. Alternatively, you could ask your question at the Wikipedia:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous, as they strive there to answer questions about anything (this page is for questions about using Wikipedia)--Fuhghettaboutit 08:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

why was a page about an artist and the albums released deleted before it was even completed

why was a page about an artist and the albums released deleted before it was even completed? There was no advertising, just facts about a highly acclaimed artist with tons of press - i.e verifiable information. biographical article that does not assert significance. This article was written in the same manner as a fellow artist using the same topic headings and style and similar relevance - why then was this deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosy jo (talk • contribs) 03:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

See WP:MUSIC Jbeach ^sup 03:51, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Peppercorn (artist) has been restored by the deleting admin.--Fuhghettaboutit 08:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Language bots

Hi, I see various bots coming along all the time linking to articles in other languages. How do these bots know which article corresponds to another article in that language? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 04:34, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You could ask the operator of one of the bots, they would know best. It's also possible that someone populates a list and then the bot just does all the actual work. Leebo ^T/C 04:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Bob Newman

OK, so this question has a quick part, and a long explanation.

I'm trying to add an article for "Bob Newman" who was a singer/comedian in the 1950s. There is already an article with the name Bob Newman, but for the wrong person. There is no reference to this Bob Newman being known as Robert Newman, where there is already a disambiguation page. There isn't a lot of other information available, so I can't add a middle name or anything like that. Can you help? What should I do?

Basically, I was updating the article Hee Haw, and discussing the song "Phfft! You Were Gone." This was originally written by Susan Heather in 1952, but Bob Newman did a parody on an album in 1959, and later it was sung on albums by Archie Campbell in 1966, and Buck Owens in 1972. So I wanted to add an article on Bob Newman, who was a member of the Georgia Crackers group. I did add an article for Georgia Crackers, but I would like to link both these articles to a page with the correct Bob Newman, but I can't, since the page already exists for someone else.

Anyway, thanks for any assistance you might be able to render...

Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by JackTinWNY (talk • contribs) 06:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Create the article under a name like Bob Newman (comedian), use the parentheses to distinguish him from the existing people by the same name and use either a notice at the top of the article to point to the alternative, or use a disambiguation page. SeeWikipedia:Disambiguation. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Link

How do we link a page to Wikipedia from Google or Yahoo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.29.197.142 (talk) 10:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• You don't. Search engines index pages using Webcrawlers. All you have to do is wait. -Mgm|^(talk) 11:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
  • The answer assumed you want a Wikipedia page to appear in search results at Google or Yahoo. If you meant something else then please clarify what. PrimeHunter 16:39, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Article for deletion

I nominated an article for deletion because it contained a bunch of garbage. However, the editors of that article seem to like it even though it is crap and makes no sense. However, they are upset and I feel bad for them. Can I withdraw an AFD request? Pilotbob 12:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You can, just close it (you remove a template; directions are on the AfD page for your article [as in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/article itself if you click edit) normally. Note that you can't withdraw it if there's already a consensus forming. The max is 1 or 2 votes. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 12:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• I might be wrong, but it looks like someone else made the request. You can't withdraw someone else's nomination, only your response. Unfortunately, doing so would go against established policy. There's nothing wrong with compassion, but don't let it cloud your judgement. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
• I've userfied the page to the userspace of its original creator for further tweaking. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
• Which nomination are you referring to? Mgm apparently thought [8] it was Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Burritt but you edited that after posting here. If you mean Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fancruft, does not have any real world context then the page name is wrong. If you don't withdraw then the page should be moved. PrimeHunter 16:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

No I'm talking about the [[[Clan (Warriors]] article. Its just a bunch of nonsense from the book series and I didn't think anyone would really care if it was deleted. I was trying to get some of the crap off wikipedia. But they seem to like it for whatever stupid reason so I figured if I could cancel the request maybe I would. Pilotbob 18:53, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clan (Warriors) has several deletes so you cannot stop the debate now. But you can post that you change to neutral or keep. Otherwise the closer will assume you support delete. PrimeHunter 22:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Thats OK, I don't feel bad for them anymore because they are mean and called me an asshole. Pilotbob 01:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Correction of heading on new Editing Page

I am a "silver surfer" new to Wikipedia. How can I correct an error in the heading of a new Editing page I am trying to create? Specifically, repetition of the word "Editing" in the heading. Can you help?

Many thanks in anticipation!

Hawkhill46 13:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

What page are you trying to create? If it's got "Editing" in its title, there's your problem (it will say "Editing Editing..."). NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 13:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I have a question...

...regarding the unblock template. Once you get rejected from the first unblock template it says "This unblock request continues to be visible. Do not replace this message with another unblock request or add another unblock request", but the problem is that you are no longer in the "Requests for unblock" category. So what happens if you either genuinely disagree with the reason given by the rejecting admin (as they're human it's expected they'll make mistakes) or if something changes which affects your block (new evidence arising or whatever)? You can hardly go and post on ANI about it, and if you post another unblock request they'll protect your userpage, so what happens if you feel the need to ask for your block to be considered another time and no admin is watching your page? 124.176.96.67 13:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Contact the unblocking mailing list. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Correction of heading on new Editing Page

Thank you NASCARFan24 for your help. I should have realised that myself. So the next question is; how do I delete "Editing" from the Heading?

Can you help?

Thanks!

Hawkhill46 14:12, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You can't. It's part of the MediaWiki software. Unless you are talking about the title of the page, in which case you can click "move" at the top of the page (if your account is at least 4 days old) and move the page to a new title. If you can't move it, (i.e. you're too new or the page is move-protected) you may want to look into posting at requested moves. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 14:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• You could try it with a userscript (WP:US), but I have no idea why you'd want to. There is nothing to correct as it's not 'wrong' to begin with. - Mgm|^(talk) 14:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

"Editing" isn't actually a part of the title, it just displays that way to let you know that you're editing the page, for instance "Editing Wikipedia:Help desk" when the actual title of the page is just "Wikipedia:Help desk". If it really bothers you I'm sure there's some clever javascript hack that could remove it for you. --VectorPotential^Talk 16:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) Maybe the problem is that you didn't click "Save page". That saves the page so others can see it. Before you have saved, the window always says "Editing" to show that you are in the process of editing the page. It's the same when you edit this help desk. PrimeHunter 16:25, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Reasons for Deletions....

Uhhh.... is there a way where I can see why an article was deleted? Chanceeastham 14:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanceeastham (talk • contribs) 14:28, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Type the name of the article in the box that says "Title", here. - Rjd0060 14:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted. PrimeHunter 16:17, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

finding Atlantic Plain maps?

finding Atlantic Plain maps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.155.192.187 (talk) 14:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You may want to try the reference desk; the Help Desk is for questions about working Wikipedia. Neranei (talk) 15:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

See: Abyssal plain#Atlantic Ocean; it just has a bunch of red links, but you could try Google Search on the one(s) you want, using the {{Google images}} template. For example: Iceland abyssal plain map finds some oceanographic maps. --Teratornis 01:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

creating citations?

I want to put in citations to reference a recent re-loaded article- but can't quite figure out how to use the format. Little help?15:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickPHawk (talk • contribs)

Put your website inside <ref> tags, like this <ref>http://www.example.com</ref>. It will automatically create that little number and put it in the References section. If there is no references section, put the following code at the bottom:

== References ==

{{reflist}}

If you need to cite a book, news, or want to properly cite a website, there are templates for that. Just add it between the <ref> tags! Also remember to sign with four tildes instead of five NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 16:04, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

searching a document for a term

I was looking for a reference to "cosmic year" on the first page of the mysticism article, but I couldn't figure out how to search the document for the term "cosmic year". When I went to the side of the article and typed in the term cosmic year, it caused the whole system to go into a major search mode and just kicked me out of the document I was looking at and sent me back to the list I had used to find that mysticism article in the first place. Once I get to your article, how do I search that document for the term "cosmic year" that I want to locate? Mooredelira 16:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC) Sincerely, Richard Moore

There are several ways to go about this - as I'm only familiar with Windows, I'm hoping you're using that. Hold Ctrl and press F - this should bring up something that searches the page in almost all browsers. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 16:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

To make this clear: Wikipedia does not provide a "search within page" function, because this function is better performed by you web browser. The Wikipedia server sent th ewhole page to your computer, and the web browser is displaying it to you. therefore, you can tell the web browser on your computer to search the page locally. IF you are using Windows IE (Internet Explorer) or most other web browsers, you tell the browser to perform this local search by using the <ctrl-f> key as NASCAR FAN said, or through the menus (probably edit-->search in page.) -Arch dude 00:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

User_talk:77.97.86.12#Regarding_edits_to_Lothian_Buses

Is there anyone here that can answer the anons question with a specific policy/guideline?--VectorPotential^Talk 16:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Replied. Generally, we don't link to off-site images due to copyright concerns. WP:EL would be the most relevant policy. Freely available images are prefered. That said, while images are considered less reliable than text sources, they could be used in certain situations. -- Kesh 17:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I considered citing WP:EL, but since I couldn't find a section that specifically referred to using images as references, I declined to do so, and came here instead.--VectorPotential^Talk 17:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Right. There's no specific policy, just a general consensus I've seen in discussions. Hrm. This might make a good WP:ESSAY when I get some free time... -- Kesh 17:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Log in for several language Wikipedia

Do I have to create a separate account for each Language Wikipedia I wish to participate to?

--Henri 17:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Right now, yes, you must register a seperate account for each language edition. The MediaWiki developers are working on a system to allow users to use a single account for multiple editions, however. Nihiltres^(t.l) 18:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Thats cool. Nihiltres, do you have any doc's about that? - Rjd0060 18:11, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 18:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

See: WP:EIW#Use, scroll down to the subheading: "Single signon (single login):" and peruse the multiple links. --Teratornis 18:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Entering references

I have entered two references in my article "Lewis Page Mercier". Whilc the numbers of the references appear in the text, clicking on them does not reveal the reference. I could not find any instructions in all the help pages on how to insert references. I used the <ref> tag. Maybe this is only for internet references, is there another tag for text references? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwolcott (talk • contribs) 18:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You forgot to add the {{Reflist}} to the bottom of the page. I've taken care of it for you, and its working fine. - Rjd0060 18:40, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Whew, it took me a few tries to clean up the disappearing-text problem that resulted from the <ref> tag in the question. When you need to type something like that, be sure to wrap it <nowiki> tags like this: <nowiki><ref></nowiki>. For more information about references, see: WP:FOOT, WP:CITE, WP:CITET, and {{Reflist}}. --Teratornis 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I actually fixed it here. I prefer to use nowiki but I know tl works on some templates. Just a personal preference. -Rjd0060 18:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

How to enter references

I could not find any info on entering references. I entered a couple of references using the ref tag byt the numbers appeared but the reference did not. Mavbe the ref tag is only for internet references. Is there another tag for text references? Thanks your editor said there were no references in the articls but provided scant help on how to do it. the page is Lewis Page Mercier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwolcott (talk • contribs) 19:02, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

This question has been answered immediately above. - Rjd0060 19:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Redirect query

I am starting to build on a reference to a band in an existing Wiki entry. A link had been created, calling the band the Damn Dirty Apes project, when in fact the band is called Damn Dirty Apes. I clicked on the link for damn dirty apes project and created the basic information page which I will be building on, however the band simply doesn't have the word project in it. I searched for Damn Dirty Apes, expecting to be led either to other pertinant information or a blank page to edit but instead I received a redirect to a major page, Planet of the Apes. I don't want to mess with that page, but would be incorrect if I left the band referred to as a Project when it is not. How do I create a Damn Dirty Apes page in this situation please?

regards Deborah —Preceding unsigned comment added by DebRitchie (talk • contribs) 19:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

The article has already been moved to Damn Dirty Apes (band). However, it has been tagged with notability concerns and may need revision to meet the guidelines at WP:MUSIC. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 21:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing an image

How do I change the image within template WPBiography peerage-work-group which shows the wrong coronet? - Kittybrewster ☎ 19:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

If you are talking about Template:WPBiography, only administrators can edit it because it is protected. You can request an edit Here. But I don't know if that is what you are talking about or not. - Rjd0060 19:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

A-class review

Where does one ask for A-class reviews for all Category:GA-Class Chicago articles?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 19:33, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Those reviews would be conducted by your WikiProject - there's no official review system for A-, B-, Start-, or Stub- classes. You might want to consider sending them to peer review, but they're not going to assign it a particular class level. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

You should look at the discussion page of the articles. The projects mentioned there will do the reviews. In case of doubt the WikiProject Chicago should be the right address. --Thw1309 21:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

I have seen the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team A-class ratings on several talk pages. Can I ask them to look at our articles?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

How to make new page

Hello i am new to this.I am trying to make a new page to fill out my autopighray for Runescape wrestling.How do i do that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerxlr (talk • contribs) 19:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• There is a link on the top of this page that describes how to make new pages. But I have no idea what an autopighray is. If you're talking about some sort of profile about yourself, you shouldn't. That is not within the scope of Wikipedia as it's not encyclopedic. - Mgm|^(talk) 20:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
• You have made a user page at User:Tigerxlr. Considering the spelling there, I guess "autopighray" is supposed to be autobiography. We have policies against that. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Notability. Don't create an article about yourself. There is more freedom for user pages but yours is at risk of being deleted. PrimeHunter 22:18, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

password

My password does not work. checked send email password. It says it did, but nothing came through. jrhmdtraum — Preceding comment signed as by jrhmdtraum (talk · contribs) actually added by 24.159.34.136 (talk · contribs)

Unfortunately there isn't really anything you can do here as there's no way to definitively tell if you really are who you say you are. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 19:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• Most people with this issue suffer from overactive spam filters. What is your email provider? - Mgm|^(talk) 19:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Need Help--Lost

I have spent the last hour reading instructions--still lost...must be me. I wanted to comment on an article I've read here. Can't seem to be able to. Could you please help me walk through this??? Thank You for any help you can provide. I'm not even sure how to submit this so that I can get an answer...hope this works!! MLBMarielbecker 19:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have a problem with the article, then leave a note on its talkpage (click "discussion" at the top of the article). There's no way to directly comment on the article itself. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 19:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

If you wish to comment and discuss an article, you should do so on its talkpage. Look at the row of tabs at the top of the article page. The one to the left should say article (or if you look at this one, it is project page). The tab next to it says talkpage. Click on that, then click on the + icon next to the edit this page tab to start a new discussion topic. Type your comment, and then see who replies! Hope that helps! With regards, Lradrama 19:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

What is the article? A very few articles have protected talk pages which only administrators can edit. If the article doesn't have a talk page now then just create it. PrimeHunter 22:03, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Image conversion

How does one convert an image.png to image.svg ? - Kittybrewster ☎ 22:22, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

• One is a raster image, while the second is a vector image. I don't think immediate conversion is possible. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hide boxes

First of sorry if this is in the wrong section but anyway

What do i need to do to make my userboxes hidden when you open the page and then just have to hit show to see them? ForeverDEAD 22:46, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

There's the {{hidden}} template; but there's probably easier ways --h2g2bob (talk) 22:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Userboxes#Grouping userboxes. PrimeHunter 23:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

October 21

Blain Johnson

I created a page that was deleted. I would like to bring this problem to a higher authority other than the 12 year old that deleted it. How do I do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.215.244.216 (talk) 00:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

What was the page called? - Rjd0060 00:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, Duh. It was called Blain Johnson. See the Deletion Log. It was deleted because it did not meet Wikipedias notability guidelines. It must have been about a non-notable person. You are welcome to start a Deletion Review but I would suggest not doing this unless it actually was about a notable person, and met the guidelines WP:BIO. - Rjd0060 00:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? While you are slugging it out to try to get your article on Wikipedia, you may wish to consider putting the article on a wiki that has fewer requirements for biographical articles than Wikipedia, for example: WikiBios. Also look on WikiIndex for wikis that are about whatever subject Blain Johnson is/was involved with. --Teratornis 00:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

This is enough. This page concerned a 17 year old named Blain Johnson. Looking at the user's name who created the article, it is obvious that there is a very clear COI. Enough of this nonsense; this person is not notable. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 01:11, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I guess you made this edit. If you are Blain Johnson or close to him then see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Autobiography. And note that when Wikipedia editors discuss whether someone is "notable", they are considering whether they satisfy Wikipedia:Notability or Wikipedia:Notability (people). Try not to take it personally if editors determine you don't satisfy those and therefore call you non-notable. PrimeHunter 02:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Many of us are non-notable too. Only a small percentage of Wikipedians have articles. In the meantime, I suggest WikiBios, because it accepts autobiographies of anyone. --Teratornis 02:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• And let's make one thing absolutely clear. Someone's standing within Wikipedia is not decided by their age, but their contributions to the project. Twelve might be young, but if they were chosen to be an administrator (which is the case if they can delete something), it generally shows them to be mature, level-headed and thoughtful. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:37, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

template parameters

If I'm transcluding a template and one of the parameters has a ton of non-wiki pipes and braces, how can I keep that from interfering with the wiki syntax of the template translusion? Using alternate characters isn't an option- this is a simple form of what I'm working with: {{templatename|{{anothertemplate}}}} and anothertemplate is pasting in some end braces. What can I do? I distintly remember this issue addressed somewhere but I don't remember. --ffroth 00:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand the issue. I dropped some curly braces and pipes into User:Wknight94/Stuff In Progress and then changed User:Wknight94/Stuff In Progress 2 to be {{resolved|{{:User:Wknight94/Stuff In Progress}}}}. User:Wknight94/Stuff In Progress 2 now looks like a {{resolved}} tag with curly braces and pipes. Is that not what you expected? What is your example? —Wknight94 (talk) 03:29, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Cyrillic display.

Hello,

I'm having trouble viewing Cyrillic characters in Wikipedia. I'm using Mac OS 10.4.10, Firefox 2.0.0.8, and everything is essentially on default for display (eg. character encoding is set to UTF-8, and changing the code does not show the missing characters). If i go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic, only about half the characters show up, including 'the table showing the differences between the upright and italic/cursive Cyrillic letters', and the 'Common letters' table, while others, like 'The Early Cyrillic alphabet (and the numerical meanings of the letters)', 'Cyrillic characters in Unicode' and 'Letters of the Cyrillic alphabet' are just questions marks. Most uses of Cyrillic on various pages are like this. This is a problem i don't have with alphabets like Hebrew, Greek and Arabic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.55.239 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at this link. It appears you could choose View → Character Encoding → More Encodings and then either Unicode (UTF-16) or something under East European. Respond here if that does not help. —Wknight94 (talk) 03:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, no it doesn't help. None of the encodings make the Cyrillic text display properly - most of them in fact destroy the display of what i can see (and UTF-16 turn the whole page into Chinese characters). It's annoying, because Safari shows the pages correctly, but i don't know how to translate their settings to Firefox, and i really don't understand the encoding process itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.55.239 (talk) 03:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Need to change title of article

I recently created an article but then realized that I had worded the title incorrectly.

How do I change the title to the correct words?

Thank you,

Walter Day —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.18.3.232 (talk) 01:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Name of article? -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 01:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Take a look at WP:MOVE for instructions. If you do not have an account or your account is less then five days old you would need an admin to move the page for you. To request an admin to do the move go here: WP:RM. meshach 01:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting offensive content.

Resolved

I would like to delete some offensive comments someone placed on a page. I can't figure out how to do it. Is it allowed to delete commets that others have placed? It's on the page about the town of Ballycastle, Co. Mayo, Ireland.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aedooling (talk • contribs) 03:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I take it you mean the article for Ballycastle, County Mayo. I reverted the last edit which was vandalism. Click on those links to learn more about how you can fix these things in the future. Dismas|^(talk) 03:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

thanks

Thank you, Dismas. That particular bit of vandalism was really disgusting and I wanted it off fast. Sorry for my clumsy attempt. It's my first time trying to edit Wikipedia. I'll spend more time researching how to do it next time.

aedooling —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aedooling (talk • contribs) 03:35, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Weird issue with page

Resolved

On this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sails_in_the_Sunset the length in the box on the right is in a weird box. I can't figure out why as it looks identical to other pages. Any ideas? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Metro (talk • contribs) 03:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Fixed: [9] PrimeHunter 03:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

nevermind, problem fixed

Nevermind, someone has already fixed problem.

Xiaolin showdown characters

Who deleted the articles on most of the Xiaolin Showdown characters?! Whoever did, please put them back!Kitty53 04:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion was decided in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wuya. They have sections in List of Xiaolin Showdown characters. PrimeHunter 04:52, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Articles from main namespace as template

Is it possible to include an article from the main namespace as template in another article? – Ilse@ 07:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• Yes, it can be done the same way templates stored userpage can be transcluded and the same way archived pages are shown on this page, but it's generally a bad idea. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. – Ilse@ 08:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with navigation box

Could someone please tell me how to add the little v.d.e links to this navigation box? Thanks! SharkD 10:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I think we rarely do this because of space problems. Right-side infoboxes aren't usually wide enough to accommodate the edit links. I tried adding {{Tnavbar|Video RPG|mini=1|nodiv=1}} either before or after the title and it just doesn't look right. The best I could find was adding {{Tnavbar|Video RPG|mini=1}} after the title (i.e. without nodiv=1). —Wknight94 (talk) 12:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Should links to redirect pages be avoided?

When someone clicks a link to a redirect page, does it take more time to load and also wastes bandwidth? I mean, should editors be encouraged not to do give such links in the first place?

With piping, there is really no reason to ever link to redirect pages (unless it was not a redirect page when it was linked to), but still it seems many editors settle for linking to redirect pages as if it makes no difference whether they link there or directly to the source. So should there be a guideline asking to avoid writing link to redirect pages whenever possible (or trying fixing every such link if you happen to edit its article anyway)? -Raybnay 10:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Linking via the redirect makes sense if there's ever a chance that the redirect will turn into a full-fledged article; I seem to remember that developers said that the extra server load this causes is negligible. Bypassing a redirect to link directly tends to make the most sense when the redirect is from a typo or from a 'common-misconception'-type name; otherwise, it's not really worth it, and can even be harmful in some situations. Hope that helps! --ais523 10:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Can anybody translate this?

Someone has written a message to me in a completely foreign language on my talkpage here and I simply can't read it. Is there any way this can be translated into English, which is what should only be found on an English Encyclopedia? Many thanks, Lradrama 11:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Here's the translation from Google:

Title - Please help

Message - May peace and God's mercy and blessings I ask you to help the functioning of educational funds to my account as any employee has the funds and sugar

Eh... what do you think that means? For future, this should probably go to the reference desk. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 11:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• Based on that translation, I'd remove it as spam. There is a chart somewhere that helps pinpoint specific languages so you can use WP:BABEL to find a person to translate it. People are allowed to ask questions in other languages than English, there is no rule against that, but they shouldn't assume they'll get an answer. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

references added

i can't find any info or anywhere i can properly ask about this, when an article has been tagged as needing sources and then someone revamps the article and it has great sources etc - who can remove the original tags? Its just that the article Declan Bennett has undergone a recent revamp and i got it upgraded to start class but its still tagged even though everything is pretty well sourced. This is something thats always confused me actually. Thanks :D Princesskirsty 11:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Anyone can remove the tags. If you have removed the tags but someone else has re-added them, you can follow the dispute resolution process which begins with discussing the tags with the person who re-added them (on the article talk page or the person's user talk page). —Wknight94 (talk) 12:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

aaah great, so i can just remove them then. the article reads really well for what it is so i thought it was unfair to have it still tagged. Thanks :D Princesskirsty 12:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The article now has some references, which is great. They were all naked links, so I have turned them all into inline citations with proper attribution information and reference formatting. The article is, however, only spottily referenced now and the {{refimprove}} tag does not merit removal. I have added fact tags for unreferenced paragraphs as well. So yes, anyone can remove tags, but in this case, I do not agree that the article has great or complete references. Every fact in an article must be attributed to a reliable source.--Fuhghettaboutit 18:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

American Indians

81.145.242.73 11:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Dear Sir, My friend and i are planning a visit to America for two weeks, now i am disabled through a brain heamorage in 1979 which left me with no feeling down my right side, i can walk do my own cooking etc etc we intend to hire a large van sleeper to go around as far as we can as the country is far to big to visit a lot in two weeks, can you tell me the best route to take once we have landed, we are not interested in Las Vegas and we need the best routes to visit the US with the limited time limit we have, all help will be greatly appreciated, I realy wasnt to meet the American indians

Many Thanks

David Parker

Try asking at the Miscellaneous reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 12:01, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

If Las Vegas is not an option, you could try the Mohegan Sun. There you can meet some of "the" Native Americans and lose a lot of money in two weeks. Also see WikiTravel. --Teratornis 06:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

WikiMedia Donations

I was reading the page soliciting donations to the WikiMedia foundation and I think it's a great idea to do so, but in reading the section about direct deposit, I'm noticing that it only posts routing and account numbers for IBAN. This is all well and good for users in the participating European nations, but I'm in the United States, where I can't take advantage of this. Would it be possible to provide ABA/Routing Numbers and account numbers for those of us in the United States to be able to donate more easily? -Dorfner 15:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)Dorfner

There's small text below the National Belgain Account Number that reads: For countries that do not support the IBAN system or for transactions inside Belgium. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 15:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

That's all well and good because that shows the Belgian national account number, but doesn't show a transit number. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dorfner (talk • contribs) 15:56, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

song search

Hi my name is Liz and I am looking for a song- on a 45 ( yes there were 45 lol) jo stafford sang "shrimp boat" but on the flip or "B" side was the song I was looking for- think it was called "A Brave Man"- don't know the singer other than it was a female- can anyone help? thank you liz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.183.234 (talk) 18:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Please use the Entertainment reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia only. Thanks. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 18:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I need some advice!

I have been reading Wikipedia for a couple of years and I want to start contributing to the site but I'm somewhat scared since I do not want to post something that it false. I want to contribute but I do not want to get into trouble or cause more work for the other editors. Also, what type of information should be posted? For example, is it ok to post dates of up coming events or should you only post things that have happened in the past?

Thanks, I hope I can become a good contributor to wikipedia! =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.28.200.12 (talk) 19:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello! It's really great to have you here with us. It would be nice if you would create an account; that way all of your edits are easily attributed. I'd suggest reading Wikipedia:Introduction, and Wikipedia:Your first article. Your information should be verifiable, please read this page for more information. If you need more help, just place {{helpme}} on your talk page post here, or ask me (I'm usually around and am able to help), and someone will be along to help you. Welcome to Wikipedia! Regards, Neranei (talk) 19:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) I'll take your questions one at a time. It's okay if you accidentally cause more work for other editors - you'll probably get a note on your talkpage explaining what you did wrong. It's also a good idea to click "Show preview" before saving your edit to make sure formatting comes out correctly. You may post anything that you feel should be posted, just make sure it is sourced, and does not violate policies like Keep a neutral point of view, Cite reliable sources, and Don't post speculation. It's fine to post information about upcoming events - see 2018 FIFA World Cup for examples - but don't post speculation. If you have any other questions, just post here again! NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 19:32, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
• Wikipedia has grown a lot since I first arrived, but what I did when I started can still apply today. Instead of reading everything in one go, I read the help pages in small manageable chunks and I started when I found I needed something. If you read the pages that have been suggested by the others, you'll know the bare basics. Also, keep an eye on what you create. People are bound to come in and add to it, meaning you can learn from it. Since you're an experienced reader, take an article about a similar subject (preferably a featured article) and compare it so you know what a good article of type should look like. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:57, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Source Card

I am doing a science project and I do not have an encyclopedia so I came to this web-site, is there any way I can find out information on this web-site to put on a source card like a written encyclopedia? please repond thanks, susie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.114.174 (talk) 19:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Here is something that might help: Special:Cite. You type the name of the article you want cited in the box on that page, and it gives you the information. If that isn't what you are talking about, sorry, but maybe you could be a little more specific. - Rjd0060 19:53, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Why is my edit not the way it previewed?

I just made my first edit of the Wiki. Being the Web manager for The Big Wu, I checked out the site and found some errors to fix. After making my (this time) small changes I previewed the edit and everything displayed fine. Next I clicked 'Save' and it took me back to The Big Wu wiki page. Now a information box that was in the upper right corner of the page is no longer there. Is this now a temporary page until someone reviews my edit or did I break the entry somehow?

Thanks! -Nate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omnipitous (talk • contribs) 19:58, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Your Edit has been done, it is in effect. It is there. - Rjd0060 20:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• No, the box is there. Whatever you did didn't affect it in any way. Keep on editing! Oh yes, and edits don't have to be approved - they take place instantly. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 20:07, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• You didn't do anything wrong but just got caught in a weird coincidence on your first edit. You saved your edit [10] the same minute the infobox was moved.[11] The used template name on the page you edited is a redirect which was updated to the new location 4 minutes later.[12] This may have caused the box to temporarily not display. PrimeHunter 23:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

How can I find articles created by a specific editor?

I read two related articles which were interesting, and I noticed they created and written by the same editor. How can I search for other articles created by this user (apart from searching their contributions)? I know there is a special way to search for these, or possibly only articles created in the last month. 172.214.131.229 20:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Try Special:Newpages. Pop in their username and hit submit. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 20:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

how do you create a page?

how do you create a page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irule94 (talk • contribs) 20:08, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:How_to_start_a_page. It should answer all of your questions. - Rjd0060 20:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

RE: source card

Hey, i need to know the author and copyright date. how do i find that on a wickipedia page?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.75.114.174 (talk) 20:40, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

As I said above: Here is something that might help: Special:Cite. You type the name of the article you want cited in the box on that page, and it gives you the information. If that isn't what you are talking about, sorry, but maybe you could be a little more specific. - Rjd0060 20:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. PrimeHunter 23:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

how to make links between similar pages in different languages?

--Dimagene 20:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Interwiki. Regards, Neranei (talk) 20:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism

how do i report a user that is vadalising wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luuke1 (talk • contribs) 22:12, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

You can report obvious and persistent vandals at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Before posting there, a final warning in an escalating series should have been posted to the user's talk page (for example {{Uw-vandal4}}, {{Uw-spam4}} or {{Uw-speedy4}}), and the user must have vandalized within the last few hours, including after the final warning was given him or her. Various warning templates can be found at Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace. Your block request is unlikely to be acted upon unless you follow these steps. Cases that are not simple vandalism can be reported at WP:AN/I. Of course, in conjunction with warning against and reporting vandalism, you have the ability, mandate and are encouraged to revert all instances of vandalism you find yourself. GlassCobra 22:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• edit conflict) It depends. You can first try warning them with the templates at WP:WARN. If they've already been given at least one warning, and one of them is a recent final warning, then report them to Administrator intervention against vandalism (AIV). Alternatively, if you suspect the account is being used only for vandalism, then you can report to AIV without a final warning - however, it is common sense to wait until they have made at least five edits and have at least two warnings before reporting a vandalism only account. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 22:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Citation

I am not sure how to cite my source, I tried using the citation help but I can't figure it out. The citation is on the page for The Academy Is... I need help. Fobmcrtaipatd 23:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

At the bottom of the page, in the left-hand pane, under "Toolbox," you should see a link called "Cite this article." Be aware, though, that most teachers won't accept Wikipedia as a direct source; instead, you should use the sources that the article uses. Good luck! GlassCobra 23:09, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I think that Fobmcrtaipatd was asking about how to add a citation for his edit to Almost Here (The Academy Is album), not how to cite a WP article for a school asignment. He added a ref/ref, but what is missing is a {{reflist}}. A complication is that the article's one other citation uses the alternate ref/note style. To make Fobmcrtaipatd's ref work I am going to change the other citation to the ref/ref style and add the reflist. Sbowers3 00:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I've added a "notes" section, hopefully that will clear up the problem for now. NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 00:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Right, my bad. I didn't read closely enough. GlassCobra 01:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Fonts

Where can I find the fonts I can use in Wikipedia? (for my signature) --Naruto Tron 23:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

• You may use any font you have on your computer - just declare it with the <font face="Example"> tag in your prefs. Don't forget to include the </font>! NASCAR Fan24^{(radio me!)} 23:16, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
  • all right, thanks --Naruto Tron 23:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep in mind that some people might not have the fonts you have on your computer so your signature might be slightly different than what shows up on your computer. --Hdt83 ^Chat 00:18, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

October 22

Lord Sesshomaru!

Where is Lord Sesshomaru, as in the wikipedia user? I remember sending him a message and he hasn't responded in days!Kitty53 00:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Except for a few, all users here are volunteers. They are not obligated to be online or edit at any time. By the way, how did you send the message? I did not see it on his talk page. --Mark (Mschel) 01:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

There are messages at User talk:Sesshomaru#Redirects/categories and some of them are replied at User talk:Kitty53#Categories in redirects. If you want another reply then I suggest being more clear about what it should be about. Sesshomaru asked you what you wanted in his last reply at 2.23. You made two more posts but didn't say you wanted anything, except you asked for a response. Response to what? Don't expect people to reply simply to say they saw your message. If you then reply to say the same then an infinite circle can start. You can assume they have seen it when it was on their talk page and they have edited since. PrimeHunter 01:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I told him I was happy since he gave me an idea on a new category, Category:Cyborg 009 characters.Kitty53 04:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I still have no idea what you want from him (maybe a comment on a new category which you didn't tell him you created?), and I guess he doesn't either. He asked twice without getting an answer I can think of a meaningful reply to (saying thanks for giving you an idea is not a productive answer to "What would you like to know?" and "Please tell me what you want assistance with.") I would probably have stopped posting to you, like he did. Maybe it all seems clear to you but from my perspective, it looks like you posted 4 messages with no indication of what you wanted. He asked you the first two times and then apparently gave up. If you want him to say something then say what it is. We are not mind readers. PrimeHunter 05:07, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Please remember that not everyone has as much time as you. -- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Info on a page

How do ask for more information on one specific article? (Ferdinand Magellan-childhood) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.172.36 (talk) 00:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Like, you want more information about a certain topic? Why not just look up more information on Google or some other search engine? Wikipedia isn't the one-stop research shop. GlassCobra 01:17, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

about 'notability'

I recently started 2 pages and slightly edited another page but some wiki members have raised concerns about notability.

The pages are Ola-abaza, and Ola Kamel. especially in the second case the person concerned was very widely involved in political action and is quite well-known locally. She has also appeared in numerous print media and on local TV.

In the first case, the page resembles numerous others about local artists from New Zealand and I consider it valid to include this info in a wiki. All the info is accurate. What should i do to deal with the notability concerns? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoguardian (talk • contribs) 01:08, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The first page doesn't seem to comply with the notability guidelines. No actual albums yet, article full of redlinks, and only source is a Myspace page. The second page seems more notable, but it needs to be cleaned up a bit. It's not really a matter of accuracy, nor is it a matter of "dealing with concerns", it's a matter of whether or not the subject is notable enough to have an article. GlassCobra 01:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I added one more link. If the article stays it will be a good thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoguardian (talk • contribs) 01:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The second article had a complete copy & paste of comments Ola Kamel made about herself. First, that is a copyright violation. Second, it's extremely weak as a source, as it's self-written. I removed that section, and the link to the original source. The second reference was a dead link. That leaves no citations on the article whatsoever. -- Kesh 01:48, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You state that "All the info is accurate" but you do not provide any way for other editors to verify the info. Notability, verifiability, and reliable sources all go hand in hand. If you can find web pages that provide factual information about your subject, then those web pages can be verifiable sources for the info and will ipso facto demonstrate notability. If the subject is notable there will be web pages that you can cite as the source of the data. And the fact that your subject appears in citeable newspaper articles indicates that the subect is notable. Conversely, if you cannot find any web pages that mention your subject, then the subject must not be notable. So go find web pages about your subject, add footnotes for your info, and the existence of those footnotes will take care of notability. Sbowers3 01:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

The quote by Ola Kamel is publicly available like all such blurbs, and I have corrected the matter by adding a direct link. It is just like quoting any other politician who published the blurbs or speech publicly. I also added other links citing her work and will add more as i find it. I may also scan newspaper articles and upload them as evidence in the near future.

As for the Ola-abaza article, I added only two links and because the subject matter is a local Christchurch artist and i doubt many more citations would be found, but i would hope this doesn't doom a perfectly valid article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoguardian (talk • contribs) 02:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

bacteria genome

is there a list of all the known bacteria genomes including the sequrnce of nucleotides and how many base pairs are average —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.132.93 (talk) 01:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

This page is for questions about Wikipedia itself. You'd be better off asking on the Reference desk. -- Kesh 01:49, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

(e/c)Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. You might look for information at the Bacteria, Genome, and Genome project articles. Thank you. GlassCobra 01:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Ummm, is anyone in charge?

I'm using Safari and Firefox and both are screwed-up! - hydnjo talk 02:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Everything is big. Really big! - hydnjo talk 02:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Hold down your Ctrl key and scroll your mouse button. You probably hit it by accident, which changes your font sizes. Scrolling up makes it bigger, scrolling down makes it smaller. -- Kesh 02:25, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Firefox is fine with me. Rockpocket 02:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

OK - sorry, restart fixed everything. In a mood to blame everything on WP I guess :-( - hydnjo talk 02:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

commons people

Where do they get all that nonsense? Is this actually law? I've had a feeling for awhile that they just pull that stuff out of their butts but this is just the last straw.. what a ridiculous rule! I have no idea where you would actually ask this on the commons, so I'll ask here.. is that actually based in law? --ffroth 02:30, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you talking about the fair use part or the copyright laws on different countries? --Hdt83 ^Chat 02:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

First off, I'm getting rid of the Godwinned section title. Second, what they're doing is pretty common. The trouble is that Copyright laws are different from nation to nation, and an international media (such as a website) can find itself under a lawsuit from other governments. This is what's known in the profession as "covering your ass." By making sure that the upload adheres to copyright for each nation involved, it keeps the Commons out of legal hot water. -- Kesh 02:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the legal rules but the page has a talk page which includes a link to commons:Commons talk:Licensing/Which copyright law applies?. Somebody there wrote: international copyright is a complete mess, and the situation is even worse if the internet is involved. PrimeHunter 02:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Why agribusiness is slow growing?

suggest why agribusiness is a slow growing sector and nutrition and well being is fast growing field? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.76.135.249 (talk) 03:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

They will not do homework for you, but: Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter 03:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

What if I have information to write a page, but no clue as to how to format it?

Hello,

This is probably a dumb question...

I have been asked by the to update an English page based on a page written in Japanese.

However, I am a bit of a technophobe and have no clue how to layout a page for wiki. Is there someone who can write the information in for me if I email a word document somewhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.125.171.101 (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• Try WP:AFC and follow the instructions. - Mgm|^(talk) 04:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting an article I created

I would like to to delete an article I created. How can I do this?Daniel Mancini 03:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Just add {{db-author}} to the article. --Silver Edge 03:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Created page with incorrect name

How do I correct a page title? I created the page with the title 'William chandler iii' while it should be 'William B. Chandler, III'.

Thank you, Joe JT Pickering 03:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You can move the page. PrimeHunter 03:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• I don't think you need the comma. Those are for things like Jr. and Sr. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

ias

sir i want to become collector i want to know more about that so plz arange how to study how enter plz verify me

I would take your question to the reference desk. This page is for questions relating to using Wikipedia. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 05:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Changing article name

Hi, I just did an article called "Longue Pointe" but I spelled it wrong. The article is spelled with a small "p" "Longue pointe." Can you tell me how to change the title (from small p to a capital P), without having to make a whole new article (a duplicate)?

Thanks You

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fenerty (talk • contribs) 05:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You can use the move tab at the top of the page. See Help:Moving a page for details. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 05:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

• I've found no evidence of an article called Longue Pointe ever existing. Longue pointe already exisists at the moment. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy delete

Should pages exactly like this one go through speedy delete? They contain nothing but the track listing of their albums.-- LaNicoya  •Talk•  05:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Not necessarily. CSD A3 isn't really the best tag to apply, considering that the article is currently a valid stub, thus making the tag invalid. Asking for cleanup is preferable, unless the article doesn't pass notability, WP:MUSIC in this case, and if it doesn't, then merging should be explored as an option before outright deletion. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 06:05, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Public domain text

I know we are not supposed to "plagiarize" other people's work, but what about stuff in the public domain? Is it permissible to reproduce public domain documents word for word? I'm sure other people are doing it, but up to now I've been laboriously transcribing the info in such documents into my own words, but when there's a great deal of info to cover, it takes forever. I could do it 1000 times quicker with just a copy-and-paste, so I'd like to clarify the situation, thanks. Gatoclass 09:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding PD material or material whose copyright has expired is perfectly all right, so yes, you can copy them word for word. You'll still want to specify the source in a reference though. Here is a list of templates to give credit from a few general sources, if your source is one of the listed you might want to add the appropriate template. henrik•talk 11:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd pretty much figured it out from reading the policies, but thanks for confirming it for me. It is going to save me soooooo much work! :)

Turns out there's even a wiki template I can use to specify this particular source, so obviously it's fine to quote from it. The original text isn't always so flash, but I can always go back and tweak the articles to improve them a bit later. Thanks once again Hendrik. Gatoclass 12:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Permissible, but discouraged, because it's not really nice to simply grab and paste. Copyediting is always good. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Adding an Info Box

I have looked through and through and can't find out how to add an info box to a page. Can you help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bully18 (talk • contribs) 10:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

You can choose an appropriate infobox from Category:Infobox templates, though often it is easiest to find an article on a similar topic to the one you are trying to edit that has an infobox, copying the code while in edit mode, and changing the parameters to fit the article. So, for example, if you wanted to add an infobox to a musician's article, you would use this format:

{{Infobox Musical artist <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Musicians -->
| Name                = 
| Img                 = 
| Img_capt            = 
| Img_size            = 
| Landscape           = 
| Background          = 
| Birth_name          = 
| Alias               = 
| Born                = 
| Died                = 
| Origin              = 
| Instrument          = 
| Voice_type          = 
| Genre               = 
| Occupation          = 
| Years_active        = 
| Label               = 
| Associated_acts     = 
| URL                 = 
| Current_members     = 
| Past_members        = 
| Notable_instruments = 
}}

Then you would fill in the parameters, i.e., add the information requested on the right side of each equal sign. You do not need to fill in each parameter; if you leave some blank they will simply not show up when saved.--Fuhghettaboutit 12:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Quoting myself

Hello there,

I have just created an entry for Group Cohesiveness (aka Cohesion)-my first contribution to Wikipedia. I am an academic and I have recently wrote an entry for a print-form encyclopedia on same topic. While I did not reproduce this entry fully in my Wikipedia entry, I do quote myself liberally. Now, I do not believe there is any problem vis-a-vis the publisher, as long as I use it for non-profit publications (such as my own articles). My question is (yes, i did look through the FAQ) is whether I am violating any Wikipedia policy here.

Thanks,

Jacob —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eisenbergj (talk • contribs) 11:13, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Template width and rearrange

I would like the two templates here to only be as wide as it takes to make the title fit on one line so that the two templates can be put side by side.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 12:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Forget it I will just go with one template.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 12:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Hindi

How do I translate the text into the Hindi Lanuage?

There is no instant translation service, though you might be able to find one online. There may be a corresponding article in the Hindi Wikipedia but that is unlikely to be a direct translation. You can see corresponding articles on the left panel. x42bn6 Talk Mess 13:01, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Problem with user

Could somebody please take a look at Rex Gildo? User:Euroadonis1 keeps trying to put in POV and I do not know how to deal with it. --Lamme Goedzak 13:31, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

How to get help getting an article published on a topic that does not exist now?

Hi, did try to find any information about Kawneer that is on of the absolutely larges building and construction companies in the USA. Did not find anything. Went to their website to at least get something in, but it was rejected 2 times. I DID try to adhere to your policies and NPW and no spam, but still it got rejected. I know I saw a line where I could submit a topic and some of you Wiki Professionals, could edit it. How does that work? You can please reply to info@mba.ms or (here I am not sure, but my login is: wiki10peter at Wikipedia). I might be wrong, but there is information about Sony, Canon and other industry leaders, so why not the same in the building and construction industry? Also, I did try to learn how to "write Wiki-ish" but apparently did not succeed. What is the best way to get up to par fast? When is it ok to have a link to a web site, because I saw A LOT of Wikipedia articles with links to external sites that wer not called spam? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.205.118.176 (talk) 13:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

How to make new subtitles and subsections in an article?

I started expanding an article; the Squalodon. What I am confused about is how to make new sections for the article. Right now everything is in one area and there are no designations on the different areas of information that I covered. I want to break it up into different sections and create an outline that fits the article. I also need to know how to site my sources on wikipedia. A lot of my information came from the internet from scientists who have looked into this species. I just am not sure on how to use wikipedia. It's not making much sense to me on how to use it. If you could please point me in the right direction? Thank you

Lydia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abitbol1011 (talk • contribs) 14:00, 22 October 2007 (UTC)