User talk:Newyorkbrad/Archive/2007/Dec

Hello!

Hello Newyorkbrad! Today I completed my second month on Wikipedia. I am enjoying my time here. I hope you are doing well. Regards, Masterpiece2000 12:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment

Dear Newyorkbrad/Archive/2007, Thank you for supporting in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 16:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Question

Since I have practically been living at Arbcom (gallows humor), would it be possible for me to volunteer as a clerk's assistant? I am becoming very familiar with procedures and this activity might help keep me out of trouble (more gallows humor). - Jehochman ^Talk 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi. The arbitrators just appointed a new Clerk (Cbrown1023) yesterday, so we now have five active Clerks (David.Mestel, Penwhale, Picaroon, Cbrown1023 and me) plus two fairly active clerk-assistants (AGK and Rlevse). I will put you on the list of people who are interested, and you should start to keep an eye on the pages (which as you indicate you've pretty much been doing already), but given that it's December 2, I suspect that any decisions on further clerk personnel are going to wait until the new arbitrators are installed after the elections. Regards, Newyorkbrad 04:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey thanks!

I knew there was a WP:AN and a WP:BN, but I wasn't sure about arbitrators. Thanks for letting me know! Icestorm815 22:54, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, there are actually several relevant pages depending on specifically what you need. I think Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration should have all the relevant links. Newyorkbrad 22:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to make a prediction - at the end of the election, you're going to set a record for the most number of supports for any position, ever. Raul654 00:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Any position, yes. Any vote, no. See my comment below about the Main page redesign vote. I've also never seen a full analysis of WMF Board elections and Steward elections (which obviously spread their net wider than just en-wiki) to try and determine the total number of people taking part. For that matter, a full analysis of en-wiki ArbCom elections would be interesting to see how many people vote in total (if you look at all the candidates). Should be a fairly simple analysis - someone should try that one day. Carcharoth 03:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

ArbCom Election

Notice the time :D. And then read my updated vote...which was a few edits later. --(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ 00:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Now that my vote is out in the open, I just want to say good luck in this election. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 00:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

You're on fire! Maybe you'll exceed Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2006/Vote/Can't sleep, clown will eat me.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 00:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I should take my comment back. I'm not sure even bad luck would stop this one. :-) Heimstern Läufer (talk) 00:33, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Up, up, up and away! Good luck....not that you'll need too much more. - Rjd0060 01:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

128 votes in support in 3 hours! Is that some sort of record? CSCWEM got 403 votes with 303 supports. The elections run for two weeks. Someone's already put you on WP:100. Hmm. I wonder if the en-wiki record (as far as I know) of the Main Page redesign poll vote (687 support and 213 oppose) is within reach? I suppose not, but you never know. I still get shivers down my spine every time I look at that Main Page redesign poll. 943 different users stirred themselves to express an opinion (forgot the 43 neutrals). Sorry. I'm reminiscing now! :-) Carcharoth 03:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Just chiming in. Took me 4 edit conflicts before I could get my 'support' in. Jd2718 03:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all very much. Newyorkbrad 16:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Jeez. What a great decision to stand. — Rudget _{contributions} 17:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Asgardian/Tenebrae

Regardless of the outcome, I'd like to thank you for clerking and also thank the other editors for arbitrating this case. We're all volunteers, and contributors like you and they take on an extra burden and responsibility with these duties. I know I speak for the community when I say thank you for voluntarily taking on these critical additional tasks. Best regards,--Tenebrae 03:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Your appreciation is ... appreciated. Regards, Newyorkbrad 16:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Stone me it's a Landslide! Rightly so, congratulations mate --Joopercoopers 15:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Hear hear. I supported other candidates (and opposed many), but Brad was the ONLY one that I had absolutely no reservations about at all. - Crockspot (talk) 00:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
• forget WP:400, let's shoot for WP:500. Thatcher131 00:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
• At about 407 now. :) Impressive. Acalamari 18:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Moral support

I've made up my mind on which candidates to support for arbitration committee, but coming to your vote page I find it's already become a ridiculous pile-on. For that reason alone I'm not voting to support you. This is a note of my moral support for your candidacy. Best wishes, I know you can easily handle the job. --Tony Sidaway 18:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Tony. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 20:08, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I was thinking if we run up the vote too much, it will be harder for next year's popular candidate to break NYB's record, even with the inevitable growth of the project and voting base that will occur over the upcoming year. NoSeptember 21:34, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Your election will be well-deserved. I'm very impressed with how you handle yourself, even during tense issues. --David Shankbone 21:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I know, the tension about whether or not he will get elected is nerve wracking. :-) And if next year's best candidate is half as qualified as Brad ... well, we should be so lucky. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I like Gentgeen's oppose best. Oppose per Catch-22. There should be a template for that. --AnonEMouse ^(squeak) 21:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Suffrage discussion

Could you take a look at the discussion currently about the edit count restrictions here and add your comments, if any? I'd be interested in your opinion on the matter. Its under the "lost suffrage" section. Avruch^Talk 22:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

As a candidate myself, I'm reluctant to comment on the rules for the election while it is still taking place. I can say from my own experience on the committee that ran this year's election for the Foundation Board of Trustees, it is hard to know just where to set a minimum edit count to deter socking and ensure that voters have some reasonable commitment to the project, without disenfranchising genuine contributors. I may have some further thoughts on this after the election is over. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

John Peter Zenger

I know you are probably busy, and about to get busier, but there was some discussion about John Peter Zenger here, and I promised that I would dig up a source. Since I am now "retired" from the main namespace, I thought I would pass the reference along to you, and perhaps you can pass it along to someone who can make good use of it, and find another copy of the book. I did not see this book cited or listed in the article, and any article about Zenger would be incomplete without at least listing it as a reference for further reading. Two templatized versions below, one for the special edition leather bound reprint that I have, and one for the edition that it was reproduced from. (The edition I have may probably only be found in the libraries of NRA members, but it might be easier to locate than the 1963 or earlier editions. I have seen other titles from the special edition series on eBay and amazon.) According to the publisher's notes, there were a number of 18th and 19th century editions, some of which are in the NY public library's rare books and manuscripts collection, but the 1963 edition is considered the most complete and authoritative. Cheers, and good luck with the arbcom, you have my full confidence that you will be one of the greatest arbiters of all wiki time. - Crockspot (talk) 23:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

• Alexander, James (2001). A Brief Narrative of the Case and Trial of John Peter Zenger, Printer of The New York Weekly Journal. Palladium Press. pp. 238 pgs. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) (No isbn number, the title page states "Privately printed for members of the Library of American Freedoms.")

• Alexander, James (1963). A Brief Narrative of the Case and Trial of John Peter Zenger, Printer of The New York Weekly Journal. Cambridge, Mass: Harvard University Press. pp. 238 pgs. Library of Congress card catalog number 63-19133. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) (This edition was also distributed in the UK by Oxford University Press.)

You should feel free to unretire and add these references yourself. I have some other articles that I already feel guilty about not working on, so shouldn't add to the list right now, but User:GRBerry recently poked me about this article on this page, so you might try him. Regards, Newyorkbrad 00:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

No problem, I'll point GRB to a diff of the above. Crockspot (talk) 00:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)