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As I had been reading this section from the user:Eonon userpage, what about user:Moorcroft shouldn't that lot be blocked as this is the reason why I plus some other users had to nominate pages related to the Moorcroft company considering that is all they had edited. Willirennen (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Ron Paul - newsletter controversy
I kindly ask that you reconsider denying the requested protected edit of the Newsletter controversy section of the Ron Paul entry. The current version of the section opens with and repeatedly refers to "Paul's newsletters", yet Ron Paul claims he did not edit the newsletters and that he has "never uttered such words" as those quoted from the newsletters.[1]. I find our current language to be misleading and possibly violating WP:BLP, and potentially libelous (although presidential candidates are in open season so we're unlikely to be sued). I thus requested that the repeated instances of the possessive "Paul's newsletters" are changed to the neutral "the newsletters".
Please note how journalists at UPI and CNN report on the newsletters controversy, avoiding the possessive and using phrases like "newsletters under his name". I think we should stick to at least the same level of objectivity and neutral point of view. Of course, it is possible to cherry-pick media coverage that actively uses the possessive, particularly opinion articles and sensationalist press, headlines, blogs and letters to the editor. Case in point, The New Republic, listed by another editor in the discussion as an example of "three reputable publications" that "have used the terminology", is a limited circulation liberal opinion magazine. No surprise their article "Angry White Man - The bigoted past of Ron Paul" repeatedly refers to "Paul's newsletters". But that doesn't give us a free pass to frame our section that way without explicit citations and careful choice of language.
Most of the opposition arguments in the debate boils down to that the editor's point of view is that these were Ron Paul's newsletters, ergo we should write they are his newsletters. In contrast, my position is that we should carefully avoid imposing our own POV.
Note that I am not arguing for language that deny that these are Paul's newsletters, and we should of course not be shy about including material that may contradict Paul. I am arguing for use of neutral language that let the readers draw their own conclusions based on the facts presented in the section. I thus request that you make the requested protected edit to the article.
-- Terjen (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Yukon stubs
One reason I used cut and paste was to avoid having to make multiple edits, since the categories the template fed into had to be changed as well. By the way, doing the move on top the new template caused a small problem that required a null edit in one of the articles using the template in order to have the template place them in the correct category(s). Caerwine Caer’s whines 22:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
I see I forgot one :) ˉˉanetode╦╩ 23:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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RE: media deletion
Regarding the comment left on my talk page yup that's me, yup I said that, and yup, I'll say that again if anyone asks to use my anthems on Wikipedia! Pretty much my standing policy, they can use them if they want but IMHO it'd be better if they found an MP3. I would like for it to be reinstated if possible.
Any way I can get this taken care of so that this hassle isn't done again next time someone wants to use an anthem from my site without making it a hassle for them or me? I would like to know! --Canuckguy (talk) 05:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I am quite sure that the song is public domain (as all anthems are, think of the kind of hassles there would be if anthems weren't!), but individual arrangements of the anthem are subject to, and often are, copyrighted. I use the MIDI files simply because (except in three or four cases, where they are clearly marked, and this one isn't one of them) they are free to be used. I'm hoping to make this more clear on my site, but I'm not sure how. My thought is to go with a tag from creativecommons.org that places them in the public domain, but then I'm wondering if I have to put it on every page? Also, I'd like the text to be used too (as I share Wikipedia's ideas that information should be free), but I don't think factual information is covered under a creativecommons tag. Regardless, I'd like to make the process easier for the next time this happens. Thoughts? --Canuckguy (talk) 01:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
my monobook.js
I've readded your script to my monobook, and reloaded with shift-control-R - but I still see no difference on AN/I. Can you take a look here and see if I missed a piece? Avruchtalk 19:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
I thought I'd try it and see what it did ;-) Avruchtalk 19:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Ah, that fixed it. I see what you mean about resolved needing to be the first paragraph - if its inside archive tags, it shows up bolded still. Avruchtalk 19:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Its pretty slick - it should be standard interface for that page. Avruchtalk 21:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Re: This. The I.P. involved in the dispute came to me and attached WP:STALKING to the incident. I had no reason to doubt the I.P.'s choice of words as he is a very experienced anon. I understand that maybe my language could've been perceived as 'gun ho' (If that's the expression I'm looking for) - but I certainly didn't mean to come off sounding like that. Neither did I, in my opinion, deserve that response from the user. I hope this clears things up on my side. Apologies for any confusion, friend. Thank you for taking the time to comment on it. Take care, ScarianCall me Pat 16:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
"Poorly coded bots"
Well, the double redirect bots have been tripping over it all day. I can't think of why it wouldn't be unintentional, the redirect stretches the screen vastly on Widescreen. Will (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Circular redirects just get skipped. This hung up my bot for eight hours. Will (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- I am about to rewrite the redirect.py pywikipedia bot such that infinite loops are cought. Sorry for my mishap, I soon found out and continued my tests at http://test.wikipedia.org . Andreas (T) 20:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing comments from talk pages
Be careful with BillCJ, he tends to be a little sensitive. If he flares up with you as he did [here] with another editor, the best coarse may be to ignore him, his attention span is limited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.244.255.234 (talk) 03:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
General Welfare Clause / Taxing and Spending Clause
I saw your comment at Wikipedia:ANI#History merge needed indicating your interest in this issue and think that you might want to comment at Talk:Taxing and Spending Clause#Requested move. MilesAgain (talk) 14:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello
hi Mr.Random....there is a user here his name Nome060 ..he copied this page user, who has this name Thehelpfulone ...just i want you to know that, to take or adopt measures or steps...and thanks for you...--O.waqfi (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
WP:ANI
Thanks for getting back to me. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk 21:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hey, I notice that you recently made an edit to the template. However, I recently used the template, and it did not come out correctly, as shown at the talk page. I added an editprotected request to it, but maybe since you were the one who made the changes you would know how to change it or what revision to go back to. Thank you for the help! Icestorm815 (talk) 20:31, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
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Hey i have to thank you for deleting that image. mickyfitz13 Talk 20:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
MediaWiki:Gadget-removeAccessKeys.js
I think your recent changes to MediaWiki:Gadget-removeAccessKeys.js is causing errors. I first noticed it when MediaWiki:Sysop.js wasn't working for me anymore. Looking at the FireBug console, FireBug reports:
columnOne.getElementById is not a function
removeKeys(columnOne.getElementById('p-cactions').getElementsByTagName('a'));
Since I'm not familiar with the script, I thought I would let you fix it. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:31, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: No problem. =) It took me awhile to figure out what the problem was. I first noticed the problem when all of the CSD reasons disappeared. I thought Sysop.js changed or something, but then noticed that Gadget-removeAccessKeys.js was throwing errors. Ah, JavaScript programming, what fun... not! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Changes to uw-vandal4
Hey, you recently attempted to change the substs on the level four vandalism template, but in doing so accidentally broke the template. This was pointed out on the help desk and I went ahead and reverted it. Whatever change you were attempting to make looks to have been a good one, but I do not know enough about writing templates to correct it. Either way, you should probably test it in the future before going live with it. At any rate, warm regards, SorryGuy Talk 05:17, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
My Rfa
My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, But I wanted to thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 19:30, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Can you have a look at this script? On line 14, within var localtitles initialization, the "ja:" line ends with a comma but is the last one in the list. Isn't that a no-no? When I remove the comma locally, it seems to eliminate an error message I've been getting. Thanks. Franamax (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. It's all working tickety-boo for me now. I got into solving this as a result of this thread but I see that the timing of your edits to this file don't match to the timing of the problems the other people reported, I assume the are using different tools or skins than I.
- Is there any chance that you would have copy/pasted that code block into other scripts within the last little while that would be causing their similar errors? Not trying to pin any blame here, just a thought... Cheers! Franamax (talk) 00:37, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thx for the response, it was just a long shot. You're a far more disciplined programmer than I am, I copy/paste code all the time, it saves so much time - except for the time fixing the same mistake over and over :) Franamax (talk) 01:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
That 90's show
Well it was sort of a content dispute, the edits were in good faith, but there are very few editors that would agree with them. And note, the user blanked my userpage.--The Dominator (talk) 04:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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Gadget popups
Saw your change on the popups code. Please be aware that usage of document.write should be avoided at all times. It causes problems with Safari and Opera if you have multiple levels of javascript inclusion. The Common.js function importScript is written as it is for that exact reason. I propose we just implement the solution that was considered on MediaWiki talk:Common.js --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
OK then. There's about 2000 or so of those baseball seasonal articles, and some of them which aren't yet Start-Class or higher still need to be expanded. Unfortunately, I have been delaying the expansion of these articles (which I really shouldn't have done), but since you have brought it to my attention, I will take care of it. If it's all right, I'd like to restore the article, expand it, and expand all of the others around it (or as many as I can). jj137 (talk) 20:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, just my laziness showing. :) I'll get to work. jj137 (talk) 21:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi
Thanks for your help. It seems to me that until now the blocking admins have all been friends with User:Schuminweb. I have posted on the Village pump. Thanks again. Markanthony102 (talk) 13:22, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Delete reason dropdown script
I checked your delete reason dropdown script and it seems to be working okay. My only concern is where you use some of the captured text from the regular expression back into the summary (afd, mfd, prod, unknown db) as the text is "tainted". While the text is provided by the MediaWiki software and should be untainted, it's still a bit dangerous, though I couldn't figure out any situation where it might be bad (see my deleted Sandbox for my experiments). -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:33, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: Yes, that's what I figured out after awhile. Eh, just being cautious from years of defensive coding. Never trust anything. =) My specific concerns were script injection and overflow of the input field. However, like you said, you're using nothing that the MediaWiki software didn't already put in and you're doing replacement of the value, not adding HTML, so the content should be safe. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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Cheers, Basketballone10 23:59, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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The discussion is closed, so I'll explain here. It gives away the geographical location of the user via WHOIS (take, for example, User:66.218.71.198 and [2]). In some cases, the WHOIS information resolves to a person. In some cases, that IP address may be used to correlate activity for other things for sites whose privacy policies may be less strict than the Wikimedia Foundation's. And for some ISPs, an IP address may be assigned to a very small geographical area, and with other habits for that user, can be used to trace someone in real life. There's other things as well, but that's the gist of IPs being revealed. x42bn6 Talk Mess 18:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
ANI Scripts
Hi Random, what would I type if I wanted to use the "importScript" for your AN/I TOC marker and section collapse monobook additions? Also, for some reason Twinkle isn't working for me in the Modern skin. I noticed you said it worked for you, any idea why it wouldn't for me? Firefox 2.0.0.11. Thanks! Avruchtalk 16:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
MFD for COI/N
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Apology from him due
- See Wikipedia:RFCU#Markanthony101, I think someone owes me an apology (the puppetmaster, not you). — Rlevse • Talk • 10:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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deletion reason script
You wanted to know which tags you missed. I found one: {{db-empty}} -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: A3 is what I've seen it mostly used for. However, I've also seen some people using it instead of G7.
- On a side note, one bug that I've run into that burned me on an attack page is that if somebody blanks a page, but doesn't tag it with a CSD tag, if you select a deletion reason, you end up the deletion reason and content before blanking was: 'whatever' in the deletion log. See User:Gogo Dodo/Sandbox2 for what happens. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I found another one that the script doesn't handle: db-nn. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: Yeah, and I kind of miss that from the previous script. From the previous script, the "CSD A7 (Bio)" option would be be perfect for db-nn. I also happen to miss CSD A7 (Band) since it was a specific link to the music notability (though I wish it said "musical artist or band" instead of just "band").
- Another thing I just discovered is that if you delete an article with a talk page, MediaWiki inserts "[[WP:CSD#G8|CSD G8]] - talk page of a deleted page" into the reason. Perhaps the script should recognize that and select the proper reason? I ran into this with Sullenearth. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Request for production of a magic word by a developer
Random832: A consensus appears to have been reached in support of a {{delimitnum}} parser function/magic word (detailed description here). From Jimp’s earlier posts on my talk page it appears that pulling off what is needed via a template would be suboptimal due to its complexity and the fact that numeric values may occasionally exceed 12 digits. You wrote on my talk page (here/difference) that a magic word is the best technique to handle this. How can this request be presented to a developer? Can you help? Greg L (my talk) 05:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Regarding your post on my talk page regarding the location of </span>, no objection at all; thanks for making a suggestion. And thank you very much for writing up the proposal. Greg L (my talk) 16:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- P.S. Jimp, Atakdoug, and I did a bunch of work on gap widths. It was a contentious issue that took hard work and lots of file sharing to resolve because some computer platforms only allow span gap resolutions of 0.1-em increments, others can handle 0.05-em gap resolutions, different platforms handle span gaps slightly differently, and the eye is very sensitive to gap width issues so that gaps that appear too wide are objectionable and those that are too narrow seem to pretty much disappear. I couldn’t quite keep up at bugzilla:13025 when you wrote “
it is better practice to use a class and control the specific styles with stylesheets so that users may override this style in their own user css.” But it seems that what you wrote means the editor—not the “reader”—would be setting styles. If that impression is correct—and I hope I’m wrong—then one will have editors using Macs making decisions that look just perfect on thier machines but which looks bad for Windows people using Explorer (and visa versa). A tweak of just 0.05 em makes a big difference in how satisfied everyone is. I ended up treating the gap after the digit 1 differently from those that follow the other nine digits in order to obtain a solution that satisfied all parties.I am putting in the extra effort of writing this post to you only because I want the developer’s work to be well-received and widely adopted. I think that may not happen if some people find the results to be “ugly.” My only request is that you ensure that the developer is made aware of the technique we used to get span-widths that resulted in a satisfactory compromise for us all. Background information can be found here, at Talk:Greg L#Platform-independent span-gap comparison, and the full details on the gap width nuances here, at Talk:MOSNUM#Gap width details. Greg L (my talk) 19:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Regarding your latest post (difference), I now understand. I thought that might be the case and felt that advanced issues like setting monobook.css—while possible for anyone to do—will be beyond the immediate grasp of many users. Ensuring that the default settings are the best possible compromise right out of the gate is certainly the way to go. I much appreciate your latest post at bugzilla. With everyone’s thoughtful input at each step of the way, I think this is being done perfectly. Regards.
Please let me know when there is something to try. Greg L (my talk) 20:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Should I post a message, perhaps at 1.4.6.2, alerting interested parties that the proposal has been advanced to a developer to be made into a parser function? The only reason I’m reticent to do so is it would likely be tagged as “resolved” and then archived. The primary disadvantage of doing this is the links in bugzilla:13025 would have to be updated so the developer can refer to the proposal’s details. That seems easy enough to do as I’m now registered on bugzilla. Greg L (my talk) 05:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)