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Merge with Life and work of Ludwig van Beethoven

The central section of this article is only slightly less detailed than that of the Life and work of Ludwig van Beethoven page, and as far as I can tell, both are competing with much the same objective in mind. It would, I think, be better to have one excellent, coherent article on Beethoven than two of confused intent.

Any seconders? Would anyone be prepared to do this?

CharlieRCD (talk) 11:36, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Second: I agree it would make sense to merge the two. The other WP articles on musicians/composers combine work and personal life into one article.TVC 15 (talk) 06:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I have added the merge proposal template to the top of each of these pages. Hopefully a consensus will be reached quickly, as this is a popular page, even though this discussion has been here for a few months. Asmeurer (talk ♬ contribs) 05:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be good etiquette to notify the original creator of the article Life and work of Ludwig van Beethoven, Opus33 (talk · contribs), about this proposal. It should probably also be mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Composers. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I added it over at the project and added a note on Opus33's page. Sorry. I figured that all interested would notice the tags at the tops of the pages. Also note that I only added the tags in response to the earlier proposals here. I personally have no opinion of the matter, but I do think that there needs to be a consensus on this, as CharlieRCD makes some valid points. Asmeurer (talk ♬ contribs) 17:43, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm completely in favor of this merger. Opus33 (talk) 20:23, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Agree. (There is also discussion about this article and its problems on the Composer's Project talk page -- this merger is probably a good start.) Magic♪piano 22:12, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Also agree, although this is probably best done in conjunction with the kind of rewrite that Magic links to above. Eusebeus (talk) 22:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

And agreement from me on this. Merging is the way forward! --Kleinzach 00:29, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

A strong agreement from me as well - this merger is definitely a good start. Greg Jones II 03:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

I have started working on this merger, given the strong consensus. I expect I'll be mostly done Thursday or Friday. Magic♪piano 00:50, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Magic. As you probably noticed I gave this task a brief try but then got distracted by other things. Mostly I just tried to pare stuff back. Opus33 (talk) 17:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I've completed the bulk of the merge, so all of the content of Life and Work should be reflected here, except for material that was already duplicated in Death of Beethoven. I'll be tieing up loose ends, and will redirect the other page here in a few days. Magic♪piano 17:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I've redirected Life and Work page to point here. Magic♪piano 16:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)