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Welcome!

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Emails to Professor Black

Two recent emails to Professor Robert Black are recorded here and here.PJHaseldine (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Amendments/edits to the CCB page

Patrick,

Thanks for completing the suggested edits to the Civil Cooperation Bureau page so well. We were trying to framework (somehow) the right words, which you then introduced - well.

A question might be - if Magnus Malan, in Para 15 said his orders to the SADF were to "destroy the terrorists, destroy their bases etc" then followed up by "./.....and I never authorised any member of the SADF to kill political opponents...etc ...."...is this not contradictory - or in your interpretation, would a political opponent who chose to associate with activies and actions that could be termed "terrorist/terrorism" then fall into the category mentioned first.

I am busy with a comparative analysis of justifications, activities, actions and morals between several past Government initiated covert groups. Primarily the CCB, SOS and the SOE. I have also been provided with almost unlimited access to the historical archives and information on the SOE.

Thanks again for a good edit on the above page.

BSRCR 20:56, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Responded on CCB talk page.PJHaseldine (talk) 12:38, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PJH - A Helpful Opinion From You Please:
I am aware of your sympathy and siding with the ANC. I have met (and flown) Nelson Mandela myself in the UK, a wonderful old fellow with a rogue like twinkle in his eye.
Just recently a friend of mine was denied entry to the UK for involvement with a SADF force (CCB) that operated against the ANC. He was quoted as having been involved in "eliminating members of the ANC and also destroying their property". I want to ask you if you have seen the banned video on You tube called ANC VIP's of Violence (3 parts) and also this video - you will have to download it - it has been banned - although it's official footage - http://66.232.114.104:7777/ANC&UDF_Justice.zip it takes about 60 seconds - then save - and watch.....
Now my question to you is.....rightly or wrongly - Your Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher had a Policy of The day - the ANC were Terrorists - this is on her website - http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=106948 and many other places.
Now - please wait a second before you react - you sometimes reach for the "Tomlinson Treatment" button before you consider everything!
My question, and please consider this overnight before answering, is:-
What does the pilot of a UK Airforce jet do when he drops a laser guided missile on to a house or building where the occupants are "alleged" to be terrorists and unsuspecting ???? eliminate the enemy and destroy property.....is this not the aim of every soldier with allegiance ???
War is a terrible thing Patrick, it makes animals of all involved - temporarily. In Africa they say "When two elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers...."
Please think on this before answering - I am currently watching but only when I can (I am in Iraq fighting for democracy).
I follow all your posts with interest - but can I please advise you on one thing...having read a few earlier statements.....winning a fight on the internet is like winning a spitting competition - it is just simply below your level of intellect - you are much better - and more British! - at least that's how I perceive you to be - we have never met. You have much to offer - and have actually guided me in the past.
I really look forward to your measured reply. BSRCR 03:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bsrcrgrieve (talkcontribs)
Question answered by another source thanks. Bsrcrgrieve (talk) 06:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'See also' link on Patrick Haseldine article

Hi there. Thanks for pointing this out to me - actually, I really should have looked at the article's history and talk page before removing the link, as it's clear from those that the article used to contain much more information about the Lockerbie investigation before it was removed. However, even after a mention of the Lockerbie investigation has been re-added, I'm still not convinced the link to Hans Köchler's Lockerbie trial observer mission is entirely relevant here - at least, its relevance isn't immediately obvious from reading the article. But as a compromise, I have added a link to Hans Köchler to the article, and any reader who clicks on that can easily find the article about Köchler's UN observer mission. I hope that helps. Terraxos (talk) 13:44, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right: the 'See also' link to Hans Köchler's Lockerbie trial observer mission used to be relevant when the article contained a lot more Lockerbie information. But the wikilink you have just added is fine. Thank you.PJHaseldine (talk) 15:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Tisdall

Thanks. Sorry about the typo in the DEFAULTSORT. - Jmabel | Talk 06:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No probs! - PJHaseldine (talk) 08:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice

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Addbot (talk) 07:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Several links now point to the dab page - I trust you're going to tidy them up to point to the right articles (looks like 5:1 in favour of the journalist). PamD (talk) 16:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know: I've fixed the loose links.---PJHaseldine (talk) 19:02, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Dear Mr. Haseldine, Thank you for your reformatting of Oliver and Hugh's pages. I assume you were alerted to my tinkering with the pages (just had to add reference to the incomparable Julia who is responsible for so much of their success). cheers, A small Canadian.---99.246.156.155 (talk) 14:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Il n'y a pas de quoi.---PJHaseldine (talk) 16:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for your note. The appreciation is appreciated! South Africa under apartheid still needs a lot of cleanup. Regards, Zaian (talk) 20:31, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit ban

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To be clear, should you violate this restriction and edit in areas you are topic-banned from, you will be blocked. Ncmvocalist (talk) 03:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gerard Corley Smith

Updated DYK query On April 5, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gerard Corley Smith, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 12:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's nice!---PJHaseldine (talk) 21:01, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Margaret Thatcher

Hi PJ, please see Talk:Margaret Thatcher#European Court, split, etc. Thanks, Happyme22 (talk) 02:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your self-reverted edits at Pan Am Flight 103

I hope this is working for you. One of the goals of this is to establish cooperation, so be sure that your discussion of these edits in Talk is not contentious, and please make your edits be ones you think are likely to enjoy consensus. I didn't look closely at the talk, but nothing leaped out at me as problematic. If you make a lot of edits, though, and especially if they overlap, simple reversion of the earlier ones is no longer easy. So I'd be careful about the pace. It won't always work, sometimes someone else will edit without respecting your edit first, but ... it's the best we can do. Good luck. --Abd (talk) 02:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]