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December 14

Xoloitzcuintli infomation

below is some incorrect information on the rescue group. National Xolo REscue does not exist it is still and always has been Xolo Rescue League I am president of XRL and if you wish to confirm this you can contact the Xolo Club of America at their website- the current president who is now functioning is Kathy Lawson- the previous is now retired. http://www.xoloitzcuintliclubofamerica.org/Home_Page.html

Since then, the XCA has compiled a stud book modeled on requirements for eventual AKC acceptance, held an annual independent specialty show, published a quarterly newsletter, The Xolo News, and maintained an active national rescue network, National Xolo Rescue (known before 2009 as The Xolo Rescue League[4]). As of January 1, 2007, FSS registered Xolos are eligible to compete in AKC performance events. The breed will —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.158.167.84 (talk) 01:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Your post appears to be about the article Mexican Hairless Dog. I have notified an editor of that article at User talk:SidP#National Xolo Rescue. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

including a name of a village

how to include a small village name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.243.136 (talk) 06:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

If you are talking about linking to another page, type in [[<Page Name Here>]] minus the "< & >"'s. — ク Eloc 貢 06:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

If you are asking about creating an article about a village, standard advice follows:

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is available to walk you through creating an article, but you will need to create an account to use it. if you don't wish to do so, you can submit a proposal for an article at Articles for Creation. – ukexpat (talk) 16:35, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Sharing a reference

Hi, I want to share(use) one reference in different parts of an article. How am I supposed to do it? Help me, please! *** in fact *** (contact) 07:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

By naming the reference. At the first use: <ref name=name>reference</ref>. The second time you can just use <ref name=name/> Jarkeld (talk) 07:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If I understand you correctly, you want to use the same reference again for a many different statements in the same article. You would do this by naming the ref. Your first use of the reference will look like this <ref name=foo>Insert reference here</ref>. And then whenever you want to use that same reference again, you would simply use <ref name=foo /> without all the other reference info. Clear? Dismas|^(talk) 07:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! But,could you please do just one example for me in this article? I will do the rest myself. Thank you in advance! *** in fact *** (contact) 07:33, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

 Done Jarkeld (talk) 07:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Great help! Thank you! *** in fact *** (contact) 07:41, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

See WP:REFNAME. --Teratornis (talk) 08:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Dual accounts

Hi, is it possible to have two accounts to keep your edits to two very different topics separate, provided you have a link to say that the two accounts are owned by the same person? Help would be great!Peaceworld111 (talk) 12:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Peaceworld111. Please read Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Legitimate uses and Wikipedia:Sock puppetry#Alternative account notification. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:35, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Change Name of Article without Confirmed status

The name of the article Halifax, nova scotia ( http://pt.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Halifax,_nova_scotia&redirect=no ) should be changed to capitalize Nova Scotia [Halifax, Nova Scotia]. I'm unable to do this myself, as I don't have confirmed status (or an account, etc.) but if someone could (as it's now the facebook location page) this grammar nerd would appreciate it!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.177.61.206 (talk) 14:07, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

This help desk is for the English-language Wikipedia. For questions about the Portuguese Wikipedia please ask there. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The page itself is actually on simply Halifax, the page with the uncapitalized province is a redirect page.Naraht (talk) 14:30, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

There is an article called Halifax, Nova Scotia on the English Wikipedia, with Nova Scotia capitalized.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

pt:Halifax, Nova Scotia is a redirect to pt:Halifax. I guess the question is whether pt:Halifax, nova scotia should also be a redirect to pt:Halifax, but that's a question for Portugese Wikipedia. – ukexpat (talk) 16:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Rix Centre help with Wikipedia project groups

Hi, came across the Rix Centre article, it needs a clean-up, NPOV-ing, more references, and wiki-links in and out of the article. I was wondering if anybody could direct me towards wiki-projects relating to charities, research groups, disability (or just tell me what page to go to and I can find them myself) I've been on here for a while editing articles and such, but I'm dire at navigating through the community parts of wikipedia Cheers Darigan (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:WikiProject Disability and Wikipedia:WikiProject Organizations. I don't see any WikiProjects more specific to the article, but you can look for yourself in the directory from Wikipedia:WikiProject. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Much appreciated Mysdaao - following up the links now, cheers Darigan (talk) 16:15, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Janet Graham

I need to get the Janet Graham redirect page removed. I wrote a stub on Janet Graham (composer) and then, looking at the links, found that there were other Janet Grahams in the system so moved the page. However, the redirect page was automatically formed so the move was ineffective at cutting the links. How do I get rid of it? Thanks. Pkeets (talk) 15:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

What other Janet Grahams are there? I don't see any. IMO, it looks like the article for the composer is the only one and should be at, simply, Janet Graham. Dismas|^(talk) 15:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I saw none either; the "what links here" tool suggests there are no links to it from other articles about different Janets, so I have undone the page move. I was doing it as Dismas left the above message, I suspect. Bencherlite^Talk 15:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, there is Janet Grahame Johnstone but that could just be solved with a "for the..." hatnote. Dismas|^(talk) 15:51, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit Associated Acts under a band wiki

A member of a band I like has a member that released a single recently and I was going to add the band to the Associated Acts.

How do I edit associated acts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Risethefall (talk • contribs) 18:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Near the top of the article you should see the usage of the template Infobox musical artist, which will begin with:

{{Infobox musical artist

and be followed by a number of different fields. Look for the field named "Associated_acts", and edit what's the to right of the equals sign. If you don't see "Associated_acts" add it as a new field. --Mysdaao ^talk 19:28, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Help editing page

Extended content

I have information I would like to add but I don't know how to cite and ad to resources. I have the links to where I got information but I don't know how to put in the right way. This is for the Carvelli article links http://www.riaa.com/index.php http://www.youtube.com/user/gjetto http://www.youtube.com/user/ItalianHipHipHipHop http://www.indieezine.com/content/view/1727/69/ "Masspool Dance Charts". Masspool DJ Association. Template:Http://www.masspool.com/charts.aspx. Retrieved 2010-09-01. "Aria Official Myspace page". Template:Http://www.myspace.com/ariajohnson Retrieved 2009-04-18. "DDK Dance Charts". Carvelli feat Aria Johnson. Template:Http://www.dancekings.com/DanceKings/ddk-charts.aspx. Retrieved 2010-08-04. http://elbo.ws/ http://carvelli.com/charity.html http://www.facebook.com/billy.carvelli info I wanted to add to the article. Music career New York Angels Single (2001) New York Angels was a Charity song for September 11. Was recoginized by the September 11 fund, New York Community Trust and United Way. Numero Uno Single (2003) This was Carvelli's first track that he incorporated the Italian Music style with commercial American Hip Hop. This song did well in all the clubs and in the italian communities world wide. Hooah EP (2006) In 2006, Carvelli teamed up with Frankie Delicio to produce the EP Hooah. Hooah scored radio play and MTV exposure in the US and Canada. The title song “Hooah” is a techno-funk exploration which operates between the contradictions of transplanted cultures -- "eighteenth century Sicily arrives in twenty-first century New York and asserts itself with 120 decibel drum beats and machine gun fire percussion." (note source) The RIAA awarded the song Hooah #6 Internationally The Movement EP (2009) In 2009, Carvelli recorded The Movement EP. The title track “The Movement” serves as an anthem for his cause of fusing Italian culture with hip hop. The EP tracks: 1."The Movement" 2:47 2."CEO" 3:38 3."Better Place" 3:39 4."High Rollers" 3:37 5."G-jetto" 3:32 6."The Movement" Remixed 2:37 7."The Movement" Extended Mix 3:31 Whoa Single(2009) Whoa featuring TQ and Rasheeda Something's Up Tonight Single (2010) "Carvelli is an Artist/Producer now working with Aria Johnson and has made a Smash Hit for Radio. Carvelli's previous hit with TQ and Rasheeda has earned him international radio play and charted just under Beyonce and Sean Kingston on the DJ Times play chart and has received Worldwide attention. "(note music up on Carvelli's Official Site) Videos: (2006) “Hooah” Directed by Craig Oeundag [1] (2009) “The Movement” Directed by Len Peterson [2] (2009)"Whoa" Directed by Reiner Bello [3] Charts DJ Times Top Pick - "Something's Up Tonight" DJ Times Top Pick - "Whoa" Mass Pool #5 for "Something's Up Tonight" Mass Pool #3 for "Whoa" Earshots #18 CMJ #22 US Commercial Charts and Radio Play Added rotation - Sirius Satellite WCRX - Chicago, Il WFDK - New York, NY Sirius Satelite NY,NY WLKT - Lexington, KY Energy Twirl - Pittsburgh, PA Carvelli has been played around the US Commercially. He's had major play and a couple of chart positions Canada Charts St. Johns #6 CIUT #1 CIXS #25 CJSR #8 Reviews and Press Cash Box Magazine(5 stars), Seaway News, Stars News, Camrose News, Tandem, Argus, Fax on Wax, Yorkton, Sun Media and Hip Hop Kings, Cio Bin, HBL Magazine, HHB radio, Red Joint, Q the Question and Nu Style Magazine. Blogs - Elbo and Conspiracy Interviews Hip Hop Kings, Urban Mogul Magazine, British Hip-hop and Illuminati2g [edit] Video (Much Music National) Feature (MTV National) Ad [edit] International Radio Play and Charts Club DJ Germany ,Flavour Radio UK, Fear Factor Radio/ Southern Smoke, Club DJ France, Mixtape DJ Germany, Westside Radio UK, Nigeria, Galaxie 105.6 - Northeast England. Here's a few that he got major play internationaly and the few above stations he was frequently played on. [edit] Movies Shall We Dance 2003 - (DJ) [edit] College US M3 Radio (NY,NY) - Charted #6 WBGK (Glenway,Il) - Charted #22 WCVM (Morrisville,NY) Charted #15 [edit] Charity Carvelli is a philanthropist, humanitarian he supports WSPA, Earth 911, World Vision and Care2. [edit] Businessman and Entrepreneur Carvelli is a businessman and entrepreneur working in the car industry. Carvelli Records, his independent record label formed in 2000, is designed to represent Italian hiphop, r ‘n b, pop, and traditional music artists. He has a special interest in Animal Charities,World Vision,and the Environment. He has been a big player in the Italian Movement. He's currently very active in the movement through his companies. Carvelli World Wide Inc. BMC Global Entertainment Carvelli Records Finance Company Car Brokerage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmcglobal (talk • contribs) 21:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have added this to the Carvelli talk page. Kittybrewster ☎ 21:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

'Youtube' is not a reliable source. We need to stick to verifiable facts - and anything lacking such a reference (to e.g. a newspaper, book) could be removed, by anyone.

We also need to be neutral. For example, saying He has been a big player in the Italian Movement. He's currently very active - is opinion, and not fact.

I could edit it, and say he is not very active. How can we check which is correct? Please read Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners to see how we ensure the facts check out.  Chzz  ►  00:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

December 15

Image use

Can I crop or rotate this File:Mm_am_See.jpg image within it's licensing and create a new derivative? If so how do I license up the new imageRegards, SunCreator ^(talk) 02:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

As explained on the licensing tag, yes you can, but you need to license your derivative work under the same license. Cheers - [CharlieEchoTango] 03:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes you can; but how do you? I don't have the OTRS permission, so how can I fill that in under the same license? Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 20:15, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

At commons:Commons:Upload click on the It is a derivative work of a file from Commons link and it will take you to a tool that will do all that for you. – ukexpat (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You don't need OTRS permission, since the original uploader released the work under a proper license, and the OTRS permission is only the confirmation that the license is legitimate. Cheers - [CharlieEchoTango] 20:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Neat tool. Done now. Thanks. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Cell phone view mode

I was reading the Wikipedia pages on my cell phone in the mode suitable for the size of the cell screen. Then I clicked the 'view page in normal mode' link and now cannot switch back to the cell prone view mode. How can I switch back to it. I am using the i-phone. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.140.43.98 (talk) 03:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Click on this link to take you back to the mobile view: Wikipedia (mobile) ~~ GB fan ~~ 04:00, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Citing journals

What is the Wikipedia guideline on citing abstracts of scientific articles, if the full article is not available to the editor ? Thank you. 24.92.70.160 (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

The relevant section of Wikipedia's policy on original research states, "Do not make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims about material found in a primary source." See the same section as well as Wikipedia:SCIRS#Respect_secondary_sources for other commentary about when it is appropriate to use primary sources. What I'm saying is that by and large, there's rarely a need to access the full text of a primary scientific article when contributing to Wikipedia, and thus no harm in citing an article when you can only access the abstract. See also WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT – if you've only seen the abstract, you should only be citing it for a fact made explicit in the abstract itself. Note also that there's nothing wrong with citing non-free sources per WP:PAYWALL. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 04:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

PAYWALL is useful. I also recommend WP:OFFLINE as a reminder to go check out the complete source and grab a page number. The verifiability standards say nothing about the ease of verification. If you are basing something off of an abstract it might be better to check out the complete source if possible. If one of you are going off the abstract then keep in mind that differing interpretations of the abstract means that it is not complete enough or their are other issues.Cptnono (talk) 08:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Verification is about wide availibility, not universal availibility. You probably could not get away with citing an unpublished monograph, like someone's master's thesis or something like that, but if it was a genuine published book or journal which is availible in major libraries, you're fine even if it has no online presence. --Jayron32 13:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

how to donate other than USD, if i want to donate to Wikipedia?

Hi,

Because 408 Million users are alone from same country and same continent. How can i donate to Wikipedia other than USD because currency differs, so i feel like it would be better if the donations is also accepted through other currencies and also other denomiations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.181.12.144 (talk) 05:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in donating! There's information at this page about all kinds of ways to give. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 05:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Banner special pages

What functions exactly do the special pages Special:BannerLoader, Special:BannerController and Special:BannerListLoader serve anyway? All they look like is raw pieces of code. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I haven't looked into it but maybe you can figure out something from mw:Special:Code/MediaWiki/72932. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

"Phase II" software

Early in the days of Wikipedia there was a certain software transition between UseModWiki and MediaWiki that used to be called "Phase II" software. What was it like, and is there a "Phase III" software involved? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 06:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

This is the help desk for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. You might be better off asking this question on the computing reference desk -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 07:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Phase II software. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Can i look for a friend just by providing a photo of him because i forgot his name.

Can i look for a friend just by providing a photo of him because i forgot his name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.1.156 (talk) 07:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Not at Wikipedia, and this page is about using Wikipedia. It is possible that somebody at the Reference Desk may be able to suggest a site that would help you, but personally I doubt there is any such resource. (I may be wrong though). --ColinFine (talk) 08:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Some kind of social network service may be helpful, as it's very likely that you and your friend share one or more common friends. We have a List of social networking websites that might be a good place to start. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 08:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

If you have any photos of your friend which might also be online somewhere, you might be able to search for them with TinEye. TinEye does not identify objects or people in photos, it compares some aspects that image files have in common. A social networking site might give a higher chance of success, however, as you can readily track down friends from even your distant past with them. Make an account on Facebook, for example, and people you haven't heard from in years will probably start to contact you. --Teratornis (talk) 20:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

wrong city/state listed under info

When this comes up under info in fb it states the location or hometown as Centreville, MI not Centreville, VA. Can you change that to VA?? When you click on the name/link it does take you to Centreville, VA but it is stated wrong. Please correct, don't want people to think I am from MI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.189.211.119 (talk) 14:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

What article are you talking about? --Orange Mike | Talk 14:25, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Log in to your facebook account. Click Profile at the top right, then Info, then Edit, then Basic Information. In the field labelled Current City, make sure it says Centreville, VA. If it does, then I don't think there's anything we can do to help. This sounds like a problem with Facebook, not a problem with Wikipedia. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 14:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

ref

is there a ref which links instead to external links? Kittybrewster ☎ 16:39, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Something like {{Cite web}}? – ukexpat (talk) 16:42, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Am I not supposed to ram that between ref and /ref? Kittybrewster ☎ 17:18, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes for it to be displayed by <references/> or {{Reflist}} it will have to be enclosed in ref tags. – ukexpat (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I am trying to distinguish external links from references. Kittybrewster ☎ 17:31, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I guess you could use a {{Cite web}} without ref tags in the external links section, similar to the use of {{Cite book}} in a bibliography section. Also, {{Official}} can be used for "Official" websites. – ukexpat (talk) 17:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

It would help if you were more specific. For example: {{IMDb}} links to the Internet Movie Database, but is not for citations. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 18:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Note that if it's not notable enough for a Wikipedia article, it shouldn't be linked to in the body of an article's text, other than as a reference in reference style. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Photo copyright...

I uploaded a couple of photos to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalachakra_stupa under Kurukulla Center. I can't see where to put (c) information but I am authorized to use these photos...they belong to the Center and I am the immediately past center director (as of 2 weeks ago) and supervised construction of the stupa. Help! Do not delete these photos...tell me where I put (c) info: the instructions are sooooo confusing...sorry. Nick Ribush. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickribush (talk • contribs) 17:09, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Does WP:IOWN answer your questions? --Jayron32 17:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales badly formatted

Could the text of Jimmy Wales' appeal be formatted in a manner compatible with a few steps of Firefox 3.6.13 View, Zoom, Zoom Text Only? Please! 82.163.24.100 (talk) 19:07, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

information on Botswana

Hello

I recommend you include www.knowbotswana.com as a reference point (or one of your sources) on Botswana. It has useful information.

Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.167.182.172 (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion. Wikipedia's policy on links to websites outside of Wikipedia is here; it is more restrictive than many contributors realise. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Call out box for politicians, public figures

I am currently in the process of uploading an entry on a local politician running for office, and I wanted to see how to insert a call out box (See: Gavin Newsom) into my entry. The page I'm working on isn't live, yet, as I'm still sorting through how to edit it properly, cite my assertions, etc.

In the meantime, can somebody show me how to insert one of the call out boxes I mention above?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CJPowell (talk • contribs) 21:13, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

If you mean the infobox, you'll see the code for it at the top of the source of the page you mention, if you hit the "Edit this page" button. Documentation of the relevant infobox template can be found at Template:Infobox officeholder. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:20, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Further, the subject of your userspace draft, James Meija, seems to be at risk of falling short of our notability thresholds. WP:POLITICIAN probably applies, and he doesn't appear to have held an elected office as yet. There's also a good deal of extraneous detail that would be removed if the article were moved into mainspace. It might be best to wait until the election; if he's elected, then a short article would probably be justified. --AndrewHowse (talk) 21:29, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the help, and I agree that the current draft is far too long. I just am using the current information to play around with the coding until I fully understand how to upload here. He actually has held elected office, and I think he would fall under WP:POLITICIAN. Thank you both for your help. --CJPowell —Preceding undated comment added 22:36, 15 December 2010 (UTC).

Where is Wikipolicy discussed?

Where do I question/appeal/suggest modifications to Wikipedia's actual core policies? What constitutes a reliable source. Clarifications in third party review. Surely there has to be somewhere where there is an effort to provide clearer guidelines to avoid wikilawyering but I can't seem to find out where it is. Tacitus2010 (talk) 22:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You can read the existing reliable source guidelines at WP:RS, or the core policy on verification at WP:V. On the talk pages of those rules, you can read the various discussions developing the rules, and see if your specific concern has been addressed or not. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yagba West, Kogi State, Nig

Odo-Ere, is a town and Headquarters of Yagba West Local Goverment Area. On your

map Yagba West is mistakely placed where
Odo-Ere supposed to appear.

kindly replace Yagba West with Odo-Ere.

Yagba west, as a Local Government Area Comprises of Odo-Ere,Egbe,Ejiba,Ogbe,Igbaruku

and about thirteen(13) other communities.

Yagba west is not a town.

Kindly correct the mistake.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donykua (talk • contribs) 23:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

December 16

Smaller Donations

If "all of Wikipedia's 400 million users would donate $1 each, we would have 20 times the amount of money we need," why is there no option for me to donate $1? I'm a poor college student. I don't have $20 dollars to spare, but i do have $3. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.164.41.122 (talk) 00:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

On the donations page, as well as fixed-sum options, there is an option to input your own amount -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternative account of Phantomsteve]} 02:37, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Where is the article I wrote£

Is there a period wherein new articles are held for review prior to posting? I have SAVED (and therefore thought submitted) an article about ETHAN ALLEN RUSSELL - but it does not appear online, nor within Wikipedia with its proper headline (Ethan Allen Russell). I have no doubt done something wrong - but can't figure out what it is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofiarose (talk • contribs) 00:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I've answered on your talk page, but I'll answer here too - it's at User:Sofiarose/Ethan Allen Russell. DuncanHill (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

It needs inline references. Kittybrewster ☎ 18:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Occidental - suggested edits

I've proposed adding a section regarding "Financial performance" (Sandbox) to the Occidental Petroleum article, similar to what I've seen on other corporate articles. The article's talk page isn't terribly active, so I'm coming here for assistance. Due to a potential conflict of interest (detailed on the talk page), I'd like to seek consensus from the community before making this addition. My full request can be found on the talk page; please leave responses there if possible. Thanks --CBuiltother (talk) 00:16, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Need someone to help find italic problem

See Nina Kiriki Hoffman. Apparently, the template {{italic title}} is ending up transcluded on this page somewhere, however I cannot find it. Can someone find (and fix) the source of this problem? --Jayron32 00:23, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind. It is apparently a hidden part of {{infobox book}}. I have fixed the problem. --Jayron32 00:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

{{infobox book}} mentions the option |italic title=no. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

IT'S NOT SHOWING UP

How come the pages Wikipedia:Peer review/Emirates (airline)/archive1 and Wikipedia:Peer review/Japan Airlines/archive1 aren't showing up on Wikipedia:WikiProject Airlines? As far as I know, any airline article that has a peer review case has an announcement at WikiProject Airlines; what's going on here?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.186.197 (talk) 02:22, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

These notifcations were sent by a bot that is no longer running. According to this page, a new system is currently being tested but not all WikiProjects are included in the test runs. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

WikiLeaks

What does Wikipedia have to do with WikiLeaks, if anything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.77.234 (talk) 02:39, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The two are not connected at all. The reason for the similarity of name is that both use Wiki software to run their site. See Wikipedia: WikiLeaks is not part of Wikipedia ~~ GB fan ~~ 02:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has nothing to do with Wikileaks. --Monterey Bay (talk) 02:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

shared IP address?

I'm not sure if my IP address is shared or not... But I came to wikipedia today to look up information, and I was shown a list of edits that I didn't make and one that I did. Usually, I only look at the pages here for general information, so being told I made all sorts of edits I, personally, did not make is upsetting. I made an account, but how do I know if my IP address is shared or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiedyeandchains (talk • contribs) 03:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You are probably on a dynamic IP address. The IP was probably used by others in the past and they made thos edits. If you log in with your new username from now on all edits you make will be attributed to your username. ~~ GB fan ~~ 04:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Now that you have an account you needn't worry about shared IP addresses. Provided you are logged in to your account when you edit, your edits will be associated with your user name, not an IP address. Only a very small number of trusted users with checkuser rights can access the IP address(es) associated with your user name. – ukexpat (talk) 04:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Blocked Message from Wickipedia

Hi, I have the following messages: Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Template:Brokeback Mountain has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Staxringold talkcontribs 02:48, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

The recent edit you made to Brokeback Mountain constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Tiderolls 02:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Please do not vandalize pages, as you did with this edit to Brokeback Mountain. If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. Tiderolls 03:03, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you vandalize a page, as you did with this edit to Brokeback Mountain. Tiderolls 03:06, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours for Vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may do so when the block expires. If you feel this block is unjustified, you may contest it by adding the text {{unblock}} below. Tiderolls 03:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. And, the last pragraph with "Instructions to unblock" is meaningless to me because I can not find a palce to add the text. 12.97.23.226 (talk) 03:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Your IP address hasn't been is no longer blocked so don't worry about the unblocking stuff. Your ISP probably uses dynamic IP addresses, so if you didn't make any unconstructive edits you can ignore the warning. – ukexpat (talk) 04:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Political figures

Malcon x,Martin Luther King,Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko have the same political features.shortly explicate this ideas.with vivid examples,how are these ideas helpfull in todays Africa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.222.183.101 (talk) 07:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Please use a descriptive title in future questions. I have added one

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Humanities reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.. You might find useful information in the articles Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and Steve Biko.

Please do your own homework.
Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here not to do others' homework, but merely to aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia.. --ColinFine (talk) 08:11, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Wiki for Thomas Edison - Error listing schools named after him

The line "two (community) colleges are named for him: (Edison State College) in Fort Myers, Florida, and Edison Community College in Piqua, Ohio..." is incorrect. Edison State College is no longer a 'community' college but as the name suggests it is a 'state' college. The insitute is located in Florida where a distinction is made between the two types of higher learning centers.

76.5.29.122 (talk) 07:51, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

If you find errors in Wikipedia - and you have reliable sources for the right information - be bold and make the changes. By the way, Thomas Edison is not a "Wiki for Thomas Edison", but one out of millions of pages in Wikipedia, which is itself one out of thousands of wikis. --ColinFine (talk) 08:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Email domain change

Montenegro changed its national domain from .yu (we are a former Yugoslavian republic) to .me (Montenegro). By this @cg.yu email domain was changed to @t-com.me ("cg" originaly stood for "Internet CG", but this state-owned company was bought by T-Com some time before the change of domain).

I have forgot my password and Mediawiki is sending me a new password to the out-of-use @cg.yu. It would be great if all email addresses on all Wikimedia projects would be changed for all users that have an email address with @cg.yu and all of them notified on their new emails. If that is not possible is it at least possible to change mine? I have from 2003 to 2006 been an active editor on many projects, particularly on sr:Wikipedia, en:Wikipedia and sr:Wikinews.

This happened few years ago, and there was a period (6 months probably) when both domains where active. If I have changed my email address in this period there would not have been no problem, but I didn't have an Internet access at the time. I would have used somebody elses if it crossed my mind that domain change could do this to me. I wanted to reach out to someone for this for a long while but I didn't know who. I'm sure that many others (who haven't done this like I have not) have resolved this problem by registering a new username. I wish to keep mine. --Milan Tešović 09:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk)

Since no one has tried to reply to you yet, here is a possible way forward that I'd like other help desk volunteers to comment on: If you sent an email explaining this problem from yourname<at>example.t-com.me to one of the Wikipedia email addresses (which one?), this might be good enough evidence that you used to be in control of the email account yourname<at>example.cg.yu, and should therefore be allowed to recover control of the Wikipedia account.

This would be an exception to the usual advice here, which you've obviously read. I expect there will be policy or technical reasons that my suggestion can't be used. -- John of Reading (talk) 19:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

meta:Privacy policy#Discussions says: "users may be able to contact one of the Wikimedia server administrators to enter a new e-mail address". I don't know whether this actually happens or what it requires. I didn't get a reply at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 82#Retrieval of passwords/committed identity. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:52, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I think that this is enough evidence for the email to be changed (with no exemption whoever had control of someone@cg.yu now has the someone@t-com.me), and once it's changed it will be easy to get a new password. --Milan Tešović 07:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk)

When the .yu domain was phased out, all e-mail addresses ending with @cg.yu were replaced with @t-com.me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.143.100.252 (talk) 07:30, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Want some information about Amigotechs software

i Want some information about Amigotechs software. There is nothing i found on wikipedia. Here is the website : http://www.amigotechs.com I wish you will gather the information about this gambling software very soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.97.210.2 (talk) 10:12, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 TNXMan 15:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Inquiry about a recently deleted page... thank you for your help

Hi. I understand that a page was recently deleted, however it would be helpful if you had an archive of the page so I can view it privately. I know you said not to put in emails, but I would like for you to email me the original page prior to its deletion. I wish to view it for my own purpose and nothing more. The page that was deleted is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_knippers_jr

Please email to <removed> today.

Thanks so much for you assistance on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.164.77.177 (talk) 10:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The page is still visible in Google's cache; you can see it by Googling for "Anthony knippers jr" and then clicking "cached". The text has no encyclopedic value at all. I have removed your email address to protect your privacy; the instructions at the top of the page were fairly clear on this. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Associated with Wikipedia?

This site looks similiar to Wikipedia, is it associated with wikipedia? http://www.recom.org/wiki/Portal:Entrepreneurship — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alg7 munif (talk • contribs) 11:07, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

No it is not associated with Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Foundation. It just uses the same free software, MediaWiki ~~ GB fan ~~ 11:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Any existing template for listing projects undertaken by a charity/organisation

Hi, I'm looking at the "Projects" list at The Rix Centre and I have a few questions:

• Is it suitable to include this list of projects in the first place (I believe that it is, but am keen on other people's opinions)?
• The list layout doesn't look particularly good - Is there a suitable existing template that I could flow the list into (I also intend to update/expand the list), or perhaps a suitable existing style that I should follow?

Cheers Wikipedians Darigan (talk) 11:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Generally speaking complete lists of stuff such as this are not encyclopedic. It may be appropriate to list the notable ones, ie those which have received coverage in reliable sources. The general principal is that Wikipedia is not a directory. – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Submitting information about a musician

Can you tell me why in Wikipedia's instructions it states not to set up pages for musicians, but there are quite a few already set up on here? Many thanks. Sonya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonya2010 (talk • contribs) 15:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Actually, there is no page that says that. However, Wikipedia only accepts articles about musicians that are notable enough to warrant inclusion in an encyclopedia. You should read our guide to writing your first article. TNXMan 15:06, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Notability (music). Can you give a link to the page with the instructions you refer to? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Table not accessible

I want to change the conversion factor for Pascals to pounds per square inch in a table at, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pounds_per_square_inch, but nothing appears in the edit window. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totally illegal (talk • contribs) 15:29, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

What do you need to change it to? The number in the article looks 100% correct to me. The table is a transcluded template located at {{Pressure Units}}, so you would need to edit THAT table, but the actual numbers in the table look correct to me... --Jayron32 15:34, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The number is off by a factor of 100. One Pascal = 145x10^-6lbs/in^2, not 10^-8. (nt./m^2)*(kg/9.8nt.)*(2.2lbs/kg)*m^2/100^2cm^2)*(2.54^2cm^2/in^2) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totally illegal (talk • contribs) 15:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

While it's quite small at standard display settings, the exponent in the entry for that cell of the table is indeed -6, not -8. So I think we're all in violent agreement here! --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Kjære Herr/Fru

Kjære Herr, Fru. Jeg lurer på om dere har Norske brukere? Jeg ønsker å snakke med Norske brukere. Jeg er veldig interessert i dette og lurer på hvordan jeg kan snakke med en Norsk bruker. Hilsen Jan Petter Tollefsen, Norge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.167.163.199 (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Hei! Så lott at du vil bidra til Wikipedia. Dette er engelsk Wikipedia, her kan du kun bidra på engelsk. Vil du bidra på norsk, her det bedre å se på norsk wikipedia. Lykke til! MikeNicho231 (talk) 16:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

However, Category:User no lists users who assert some ability in Norwegian. --AndrewHowse (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

New Page

I'm new to Wikipedia and I was wondering if it is possible to make a new page or can you just edit already existing ones? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hondaman4321 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Some of our best articles come from new editors! Follow this link. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:02, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and most of our deleted articles come from new editors. The most critical factor in determining whether a new article will survive on Wikipedia is its subject. What do you want to write about? In general, it is better to begin by making small edits to existing articles, then watch what other editors do to your edits, while you read the friendly manuals to learn the complexity of Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 22:50, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I thought most deleted articles were the ones that had been around since Wikipedia was young, and just destroyed in the past year or two as the standards of inclusion changed. Dream Focus 22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

@Dreamfocus Speaking as an admin, that is definately NOT true. Hundreds of newly created articles are deleated every day. Only occasionally is an older article deleted, and even then most articles which are older than a few months usually go through a deliberative 7-day deletion discussion at AFD. AFD probably only deletes maybe a dozen or two articles a day; WP:CSD handles that much in an hour or so. --Jayron32 02:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

While I don't have data, I would suspect that as Wikipedia accumulates articles on more and more of the obviously notable topics, there are proportionately fewer remaining notable topics to write about. Thus I would not be surprised to learn that a new article's chances of sticking are lower today than they were in, say, 2003. When Wikipedia was new, there were lots of notable topics that did not have articles yet. For example, the person who started the Jupiter article probably did not have to worry about whether it would be notable enough. Extrapolate forward another ten years, and it might be getting pretty hard to start a new article here by then. There will still be topics left to write about, but they might be on obscure scholarly specialties that the average person doesn't tend to know. --Teratornis (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is all about being able to start and make a page straight away. Just make sure to find something in Google news archive search or a book search, to prove its notable, or someone will try to erase it straight away. Find two newspapers that mention it, and it is usually fine. Dream Focus 22:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Even so, it would be smart for a new user to ask the Help desk if a specific topic is suitable for a new article. There are some large classes of topics that are unsuitable for Wikipedia, and some topics that have a low chance of sticking. It's hard for a new user to tell whether a particular topic is doomed from the start, so it's best to ask the Help desk before sinking in hours of work on creating the article. --Teratornis (talk) 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey, usually I'm the one accused of inhospitability towards the noobs! I was all Mr. Welcome, and youse guys are all, "It's tough, kid; you may not want to try..." --Orange Mike | Talk 22:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Cursor not defaulting to search box upon opening Wikipedia

One annoying feature about Wikipedia is that fact that (unlike major search engines), you have to click in the search box after you open up the Wikipedia main page. Can't you make a simple HTML change to default the cursor to the search box upon opening of the main Wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 17:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

This comes up a lot. In general, most people do NOT want this feature. If you really really really want it, you can use www.wikipedia.org which acts more like a search engine than an encyclopedia. -- kainaw™ 17:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page#Why doesn't the cursor appear in the search box, like with Google? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I might add that a registered user can supposedly use My preferences/Gadgets to put the cursor in the search box. When I first checked that setting, it worked, but it's never worked since. I might also add (he says in a fit of pique) when I just looked at My preferences, I saw the fundraising banner, even though I have that turned off. Sigh.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

New text now displaying as centered, not left-justified

I just added a comment on a talk page and used the usual colon (:) in column 1 to indicate that it should be indented. In the same talk page I added a new comment unindented. Both additions show up centered, not indented. Strangely, earlier comments on the page still show up left-justified or left-justified indented, as they should. Is someone mucking around with the Wiki code? If this stuff gets permanently embedded in page edits, it will be a disaster and could take months to correct. —Quicksilver^{T @} 19:32, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

It was an unclosed div. I have fixed it: [1]. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:36, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

You beat me to it. I just found the problem, too. I shouldn't have panicked. Thanks.—Quicksilver^{T @} 19:38, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

help deleting a redirect

Could an admin please delete the redirect page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Figurenude_%2826%29_by_Curtis_Neeley.jpg

The Wikipedia Foundation authorized the name change but the redirect causes Google Inc image searches to still result in attributions to "Curtis Neeley" instead on the CN Foundation. This causes the search for "Curtis Neeley" to show this nude in an image search for children at school even using the "safe" setting. Can the redirect simply be removed so a 404 is a result please? CurtisNeeley (talk) 19:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the page has been deleted at Wikipedia, but the original redirect exists at Commons. You are going to have to ask the question over at Commons (commons.wikimedia.org) instead of here. --Jayron32 02:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I've buggered it up!

Hi,

I saw Category:Public universities in Oklahoma as a new creation for a newbie user, looked at it and realised it was meant to go into main space rather than category space. I tried to move it but the nature of Category namepsace is you can't move what's there. So I listed it for deletion, but in my tiredness have listed it as mfd rather than cfd, and now I obviously can't undo the WP discussion page I created, and now I'm too tired, and I have to go back to work, and, and, and...

In short, can someone sort out my mess for me please? I'll give you a cookie if you do.

-- role^player 20:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

MFD page deleted as G6 (housekeeping), MFD notice removed from page, category listed at CfD for conversion to an article. TNXMan 20:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

This is now at List of public universities in Oklahoma. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you guys, cookies duly left on your talk pages. -- role^player 03:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Process of creating

Please let me know the process of createing a article carring information of company.

eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashutoshmund (talk • contribs) 20:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TNXMan 20:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

And see WP:CORP and WP:BFAQ. If the company is not notable enough to have an article on Wikipedia, you can write about any company on WikiCompany (not affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation but it runs on the same MediaWiki software that powers Wikipedia, so editing there is similar to editing here). --Teratornis (talk) 22:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The example you gave of Microsoft is a featured article on Wikipedia. See WP:FAC for what that entails. --Teratornis (talk) 22:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Math in templates using parameters

I know this should be easy, but it is just not popping out for me. If I pass a parameter in a template call as {{{1}}} (the first unnamed parameter) how do I subtract 1 from it and use that within the template? Vegaswikian (talk) 22:08, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Assuming its value will be a number, you can use the #expr: parser function, like so:
{{ #expr: {{{1}}}-1 }}. If {{{1}}} is not a mandatory parameter I would recommend using something like {{ #if: {{{1|}}} | {{ #expr: {{{1}}}-1 }} }}. Intelligentsium 22:24, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:33, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

change back to original format

When I logged in I was usually able to go back to the original format that had the smaller text and the search box on the left side of the page. I can't seem to find the button that lets me view wikipedia in its original format. How can I do this? Rhwelrhewlrhwler (talk) 22:10, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Go to your preferences --> Appearance tab --> Select "Monobook" in the Skin section --> Save. Then bypass your browser cache. – ukexpat (talk) 22:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Logos

can you please upload an image of the logo of sunchon national university and holy angel university found on their respective websites? pls. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.92.130.1 (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

See Commons:COM:CB#Trademarks for some information about the copyright status of logos. --Teratornis (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

And the folks who hang out at WP:Files for upload and WP:Media copyright questions can help with specifics. – ukexpat (talk) 17:32, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

December 17

Piccirilli Brothers Wiki Site

Greetings. Bill Carroll and I are researchers into the Piccirilli Brothers' story. You have had our website cited as an external link. That link has changed, and we would like you to put up the new one. It is now www.lehman.edu/piccirilli. Lehman College with which I am associated has agreed to host our website. Thanks very much. Mary Carroll —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.2.29.62 (talk) 02:17, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

 Done --Monterey Bay (talk) 02:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Coca-Cola and wikipedia's coi

Hello, I am seeking information about the controversy that coca-cola had edited its article "prettied up" way back when. I can't seem to find any ArbCom interventions or the like. I am asking because another article is having a similar problem and want to use it as an example. Phearson (talk) 04:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This article states "the company was blocked from editing out "misinformation" on Wikipedia last year." Make of that what you will. A sentence in the third paragraph of that article seems unintentionally hilarious: "...in an era of blogs and user-generated content, companies may be losing control of what is said about them." Oh noes!

You might also be interested in User:Durova/The_Dark_Side, a user essay about company editing of Wikipedia. Zango, Badoo and Tagged are a few articles I know of where company reps have influenced (or tried to influence) article content. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 09:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Some things I want to discuss

1. First of all, I think should be a category for "Central African people of ethnic or national origin" because every other country on wikipedia has a category for people's ethnicity so I thought Central African people should have that category. 2. Hikaru_Sulu on his wikipedia page says he is of Filipino descent so there should be a category that says :Fictional_American_people_of_Filipino_descent. 3. There should be a category for Fictional people with ADHD or Fictional people with Dyslexia. Percy_jackson is listed under both. 4. I would like to make an article about the novel More Than Weird. Here's an article about it: http://www.umanitoba.ca/cm/cmarchive/vol16no4/morethanweird.html I don't know why it was deleted. 5. I would like to add a summary for the movie The_Seventh_Coin. Could someone help me with that? Thank you! Neptunekh2 (talk) 05:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Here is the reason why More than Weird was deleted. As for the categories, I am not saying they will be kept, but why don't you create them yourself? Cheers - [CharlieEchoTango] 06:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Before creating new categories, read WP:CFD to learn about problems with categories that you would like to be sure your categories will not be prone to. Your suggestion sounds reasonable as the parent category (Category:People by ethnic or national origin) indeed has subcategories for many (but not all) countries. However, be sure you can populate the category you want to create. That is, Wikipedia should have articles about some people who could go into that category. There is a Wikipedia:WikiProject Central African Republic you may be interested in. Read Help:List to learn how to make numbered lists the Wikipedia way. --Teratornis (talk) 07:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I see you have created Category:Fictional American people of Filipino descent although Hikaru Sulu is the only current member and it didn't get support when you suggested it at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 December 9#Two questions. I have watched many episodes of the show and didn't know the character had Filipino descent (I knew about the Japanese descent) so it doesn't sound like an important trait of the character. We don't need small categories for every attribute of every fictional character. ADHD and dyslexia also sound questionable to me. In order to avoid original research, they would have to be specifically mentioned in the fictional universe. How often is that done? See also my reply at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 December 4#Two thing to discuss. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The statement that Sulu is of Filipino descent is sourced from IMDb, which is not considered a reliable source. The entire section appears to be copied from IMDb. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 18:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikistalk

Can someone explain this page for me and what value it has? Thank you. Buster Seven Talk 07:00, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Pretty sure it compares the edits of two users to see what they both edited and is used to identify sockpuppets. Not sure though. [CharlieEchoTango] 07:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess I dont see how the info is pertinent to sockpuppetry. I can see where it would show stalking of a fellow editor. I just dont get the tie in to socking.Buster Seven Talk

Just saying that I think the tool is used for that reason : because it compares the edits of two « different » users, it would make sense. Otherwise, why would you compare the edits of two users for? So that's what I think the tool is for. If you're asking this in regards to a situation you're involved in, sorry but I can't help, I am just answering for what the tool does. Cheers - [CharlieEchoTango] 07:22, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikistalk shows commonality of interests among a group of editors. For a sufficiently large area of interest, the number of articles edited in common by a group may be substantial. Where one or more of the editors has few edits outside the area of common interest, the issue of whether the edits are independent may be an issue, but appears to be rarely used. Where a sufficiently large group of editors shows a very high correlation on, say, WP pages for XfD, and shows a commonality of interest therein, the issue about being seen as a group may well be a problem (vide ARS etc.). Where a group of editors has an extraordinary number of user talk pages in common, the issue of commonality of interests as a reason for editing those particular user talk pages may well be raised. It is not wise, in any case, for any group of editors to be seen by outside observers as having any excess commonality of interest and viewpoint, as WP seeks fully independent editors for al areas. See principle 4 in the Climate Change Arbitration decision on Collective behavior of blocs of editors. Collect (talk) 11:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Excellent points all around. Note too, that some of us have unhealthily large edit ranges which overlaps with many editors. Conspiracists might conclude that I, or many others, are in cahoots with half of Wikipedia, based on mere commonality. Mostly, it's just coincidence. Mostly.   Will Beback  talk  11:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely true. However the larger the group for which the coincidence exists, the less likely it is to be coincidence :). If, as a hypothetical example, 6 editors all manage to edit the same two dozen articles .and. they all have the same viewpoint (say they all revert the same other editor in succession) the probability of it being coincidence declines markedly. Or (again hypothetically) if they have a propensity for !voting in accord with each other (comment not aimed at ARS, by the way), that also reduces chance being the cause. My favorite remains, however, having a large number of "random" editors (6 or more) all posting on the same user talk pages, as the universe of user talk pages >> the universe of any single topic interests. Two or three editors sharing such is vastly more likely to be simple coincidence to be sure. Collect (talk) 13:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The uncomfortable nature of circumstances related to one of the respondents to this thread forces me to respond. I find it highly disconcerting that the editor that responds to my simple informational query, at this site/section that I've never visited, is the ONLY editor in my 2.5 year, 12,000 edit career to have called me a sockpuppet (and probably used wikistalk to come to that conclusion). And I don't mean you, Will Beback. I guess I will just move on...no explanation is necessary.Buster Seven Talk 14:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Wait, who has called you a sockpuppet? [CharlieEchoTango] 15:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, not you either, CharlieEchoTango.Buster Seven Talk 15:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I was worried for a while that my comments were misunderstood. Cheers - [CharlieEchoTango] 15:07, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think anyone was accusing anyone else of being a sockpuppet. They were simply pointing out the fact that the wikistalk tool helps identify overlapping edits - which are generally innocent, but may indicate sockpuppetry. TNXMan 19:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Italics in links

Here's a puzzle. Why don't the links below, using ' syntax, italicize correctly? I resolved this by using <i> tags, but am curious as to where the problem lies, as somewhat arbitary measures (see comments) fix it. All the links should be italic.

Eubalaena Eubalaena Eubalaena Italics Italics ''Italics'' ''Italics'' Italics with < tags >

Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 08:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

A newline in a link can break things. Copying your code to Special:ExpandTemplates shows that the first three links get a newline from {{Taxonomy/Eubalaena}}. All your examples are displayed in italics if those newlines are removed. But [[''Italics'']] doesn't make a link. If it did then it would go to the page name ''Italics'' with 4 ' in the name. NAME in [[NAME]] or [[NAME|DISPLAY]] must be the unformatted pagename. Your last example also works with ' syntax: Italics with < tags > renders the same as Italics with < tags >. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

3.5 M

What was the 3.5 millionth article? 115.43.44.129 (talk) 09:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This was asked with no answer at Talk:Main Page/Archive 155#3,500,000 ARTICLES!!! and Talk:Main Page#Million milestones. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is NOT truly an Open Editable Model, and Jimmy Wales needs to be alerted

I am a professional writer and editor, employed by one of the largest beverages and food snacks companies in the world.

My experience with attempting to contribute to Wikipedia articles has been unsuccessful and negative, to say the least. Here's why -- On occasion, I have stumbled upon articles that are either missing some critical piece of information that is germane to the topic and presumed objective of the article, or are blatantly erroneous. Some of these topics tend to be obviously politically charged and obviously written with bias.

I understand that editors are people, and people have opinions, tendencies, leanings, beliefs, etc., which find their way into their "objective" contributions. What is most disturbing, however, is that no contribution I have ever submitted has ever been accepted, in spite of the fact that I have provided reference and historical support.

What is the magic ingredient for being able to successfully modify an article? The fact that this process is so difficult, convoluted, and controlled by what appears to be cliques of "super editors" seems to defeat the original purpose of this otherwise remarkable tool. This characteristic, if unchecked, will gradually unravel Wikipedia's credibility as a trusted information source. Just because a belief is popular does not mean this belief is accurate, and editors must be willing to admit their errors and accept substantiated corrections from the reading public.

Lastly, how does one become a Wikipedia "super editor"? Does this equate to contributing an article? The contributor becomes the super editor of this article by de facto?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.203.241 (talk) 14:37, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This IP address has only asked this question and nothing else. Before we can critique your contributions, we need to, you know, see them. Since we don't have any concrete edits to view, no one has any way to give you any helpful advice. --Jayron32 14:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by "super editor" but as it says below the edit box: "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." Any editor who disagrees with your edit may remove or change it. Nobody owns an article and there are no editors with more rights to edit articles than others, with the exception of protected pages which can only be edited by some editors. However, there are editors who know more about Wikipedia policies and practices and are less likely to make an edit that will be reverted by somebody else. If you want to become an established and recognized editor then I recommend creating an account. This has several benefits (but more rights in content disputes is not one of them). There are lots of disputes between editors who revert each other and Jimmy Wales is aware of this. Since this is the only edit by your current IP address, I'm not sure whether your edits were reverted or never saved correctly. Can you give an example from the page history of an article you think you edited? If your edit was saved correctly then it should be in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Moreover, if your edits relate to "one of the largest beverages and food snacks companies in the world" then you have a WP:COI and your edits will be even more heavily scutinised. – ukexpat (talk) 17:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The trick to editing successfully on Wikipedia is to read and understand the friendly manuals. As you did not sign your post, this suggests you have not yet gotten very far at reading the manuals. No shame in that - reading the manuals is a lot of work. But you'll probably have difficulty editing here until you put in the work. Wikipedia is unlike any system most people will have used before coming to Wikipedia. Most people who are new to editing on Wikipedia have at least a few incorrect assumptions about it. Wikipedia is a do it yourself system, there are usually no human teachers present in the room with new users to guide them, so most people who edit here have to teach themselves by reading the manuals and trying things. Some people are better at self-educating than others. People who approach unfamiliar situations by trying to impose their pre-existing beliefs rather than emptying their minds of assumptions and learning afresh will tend to have a tough time here. Sometimes it is a disadvantage for a person to come to Wikipedia having already reached a high level of expertise in something else. For example, experts may be accustomed to asserting their expertise and not having to verify where it came from. On Wikipedia we have a complex system for verifying our factual claims in articles (see WP:CITE, WP:CITET, and WP:FOOT). Learning this system is a nontrivial exercise. Almost nobody shows up here for the first time already understanding why and how to do it. Also read How to Ask Questions the Smart Way. Your question omits the critical details that could enable someone to answer it - the names of the articles you have edited. Your implicit assumption that Wikipedia can be reduced to a few general principles is incorrect; Wikipedia is instead a rather hefty set of general principles combined with a seemingly unlimited number of special cases. To see exactly why your edits did not stick we have to see your edits. --Teratornis (talk) 20:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

What to do

Intended Recipient Counselor's. My Daughter passed away of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome years ago and it is still hard for me to cope with is their things that can keep my mind off of this situation that will better me as a Person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.130.201.104 (talk) 14:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia, the free encyclopædia. We can not help you with this. Consult your psychologist. MikeNicho231 (talk) 14:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Best of luck to you! [CharlieEchoTango] 14:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Your IP address appears to geolocate to the United States. I don't know whather it will be of any help, but perhaps you can find a sympathetic local organisation via this page. They seem to specialise in supporting people who have been bereaved as you have been, and may be able to answer your question or direct you to further help. I wish you well. Karenjc 22:41, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

new version of bit defender

My bit defender program expired and I was wondering if it would be possible to contact you by phone to install a new version of Bitdefender —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.158.78.82 (talk) 15:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our 3,504,462 articles, and thought that we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25--Jayron32 15:05, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Forcibly logged out repeatedly

Just got forcibly logged out, tried logging back in, got the "log in successful" screen, but as soon as I tried to navigate anywhere got logged out again. Happened several times in a row. Couldn't ask for help while logged out because of a rangeblock against the largest provider of mobile internet in the UK. Anyone know what caused the problems with being forced out? DuncanHill (talk) 17:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

May also be worth noting that the watchlist notices which I had previously dismissed reappeared when I eventually did manage to log in properly. DuncanHill (talk) 17:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Is Help:Logging in of help? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Trade Wiki Beta--how is it related to Wikipedia

Hi, I am curious if The Trade Wiki is in any way affiliated with Wikipedia. It is a subscriber based service for business use but I see replications and perhaps complementing info on both portals. The look and feel of The Trade Wiki is also similar to Wikipedia.

I am looking for reasons why Wikipedia is unable to provide what The Trade Wiki can.

Can you help me understand better pleaase.

My email address is [email address removed]

Thank you kindly and many happy returns of the season

Daniel TanDktan (talk) 18:24, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

There is no affiliation as said when you asked at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2010 December 9#The Trade Wiki Beta. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

It just has "wiki" in its name (as do thousands of other wikis) and uses the same open source Media Wiki software. – ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Changing a Wikipedia page for a course

What do you think about this change on Ohm's law? --Mortense (talk) 20:04, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why those books should be included in a further reading section - are they special in some way? I would think there are several text books that cover the same material. TNXMan 20:10, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Reverted and gave him the "We are not Facebook" warning. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:14, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Donate

Hi All,

I dont have a PayPal account, so is there any other way I could donate money to Wikipedia?

Regards, VT — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varun.tikka (talk • contribs) 20:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

See the Fundraising page. – ukexpat (talk) 21:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

And Ways to Give. – ukexpat (talk) 21:03, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

article deleted

Hi - I work for a non-profit and my article about my charity was deleted and I would like to know why. Are charities not allowed to post their own information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Msaanj (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Please read your talk page, and the links provided there. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Important information that hasn't been published in English

As part of the BLP referencing drive, I was working on the article about former Brazilian First Lady Rosane Collor. One reference that I found was a BBC News story from 2000 saying that she had been convicted of corruption and sentenced to 11 years in jail. Then I looked at Google's translation of her Portuguese Wikipedia article, which makes it sound like this verdict was later overturned on an appeal. If this is true, then her English article is misleading and biased against her, as it implies that she's been spending the past decade in jail. But I don't speak Portuguese and I can't find anything in English about this acquittal.

So what's the Wikipedia policy on this sort of thing? Do I leave the potentially misleading section alone, or do I fix it and cite a machine translation of a Wikipedia article as my reference? Brian the Editor (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Check with a Portuguese-speaker; then cite the original in the original language. Certainly a machine translation constitutes the worst of all possible worlds as far as non-reliable sources! --Orange Mike | Talk 21:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I meant the original source, not the Portugese Wikipedia. But on looking at the Portuguese version, I see no footnote for that assertion; so we've got a problem of lack of reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:21, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've found some Portuguese sources that might help and posted them at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#Quick Portuguese translation for a Wikipedia article to see if anyone can verify what they say. Brian the Editor (talk) 23:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

long-term creation of an article

Hi. I have just spotted a nice little research paper which would make a nice wikipedia article. Trouble is, I want to work on it over the next few days / weeks, and then when it's ready for public consumption I want to create the page. Creating a stub won't work because the stub would probably be deleted. Is there a "private" way to work on an article? Robinh (talk) 22:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

1. Most research papers are totally unsuitable for encyclopedia articles; see WP:ESSAY.

2. Sure; just create a sandbox by typing User:Robinh/Sandbox, clicking on the redlink, and beginning the draft article. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello OrangeMike. Thanks for this. I know most research articles make terrible articles; that's exactly why I want to work on one in private before releasing it. And if it turns out that the article is terrible and unrescuable, I can delete it with no loss of face ;-). With very best wishes, Robinh (talk) 22:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Link Appearance

Is there to way to make this: [As] appear without the square-brackets highlighted as a link too? This is what I've tried but obviously it doesn't work: [[[Arsenic|As]]]

Abraham Schulte (talk) 23:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

• Like this - [As]? Can't work out how to show you how I did it, you'll have to open this section for editing to see, but basically, you put nowiki tags around the outside square brackets. DuncanHill (talk) 00:04, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

December 18

Biased Article

How would someone question a very biased article. The article on Anti Psycotics is totally biased toward and anti psycitry point of view with very few supporting studies while the benefits are not mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.159.230.49 (talk) 00:11, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Points can and should be raised on the article talk page. Simply click the "discussion" tab at the top of the article, and ask the question there. --Jayron32 00:23, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia's use of browser cookies

[This is a duplicate of a prevous post which was appended to an unrelated post by another user. My apologies to that individual. It was my first attempt to post to Help and I didn't put in a Subject/Headline.]

Wikipedia's use of browser cookies

I have used Wikipedia for some time and was never asked to allow cookies to be written to my browser.

However, when I accessed the page for what might be considered a controversial piece of US government legislation (the Patriot Act) I was suddenly asked to allow a cookie be set for en.wikipedia.org. Why is this?

Before posting this question here, I created a Wikipedia user account. As soon as I logged in I was asked to authorize seven cookies of the form en.xxxxx.org. I understand possible reasons why, for a registered user, you would want to set various cookies. But why would this be done simply as a result or accessing a page of particular content?

I tried to find a statement of the Wikipedia policy with respect to cookies, but was not successful. If such a statement exists and answers my question (Why does Wikipedia track access to specific pages for non-registered users?), could you please direct me to it.

Thank you. Papanca (talk) 01:41, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Papanca (talk • contribs) 01:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC) 

The policy regarding privacy and cookies can be found at wmf:Privacy policy, specifically in the section entitled Cookies. The remainder of that page answers your questions; a few excerpts:

• "The sites set a temporary session cookie on a visitor's computer whenever a Project page is visited. Readers who do not intend to log in or edit may deny this cookie"; this is probably why you received the cookie notice
• "More cookies may be set when one logs in to maintain logged-in status"; this is why you received the notice upon creating an account

Most likely, it was a coincidence that you received this notice whilst viewing a controversial act of the US government. Intelligentsium 01:45, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. This was very helpful. Papanca (talk) 02:00, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

i want to know that how can i sing in programme sun sun jeeva teri bani on etc punjabi and whom to i will have to contact? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.180.210 (talk) 04:03, 18 December 2010 (UTC)