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November 11

Wally Moon's hitting style

A current AFD pointed me to a news article about "arena baseball" in Los Angeles after the Dodgers moved from Brooklyn. The article observes that one of those who benefited from the odd shape of the field (which resulted from the Los Angeles Coliseum not being built for baseball) was Wally Moon, who found out how to "inside-out fly balls over the left-field barrier". What does it mean to "inside-out" a hit? Our article on him simply says that he "adjusted his batting to emphasize hitting to left". Nyttend (talk) 13:13, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, it means the opposite of "pulling" a ball (i.e., hitting to left field if one is a right-handed batter ot to right field if one is a left-handed batter). One does it by keeping one's hands ahead of the barrel of the bat while swinging, so that if one is a left-handed batter (like Moon), one hits to left field rather than right field. Deor (talk) 17:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, why is it that certain players appear (or used to appear) much more frequently than others in packs of baseball cards? When I was a kid in the 50s, it seemed that Moon, Bob Lemon, or Smoky Burgess was there in every pack of gum I bought. Deor (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Money. How do you make the hot rookie's card more valuable to the collectors? Release fewer of them. I used to collect and even worked in a baseball card shop for a couple years in my mis-spent youth. There were some years/companies where I had a dozen of a single lesser known player but had to buy dozens of packs to get the hard to find hot players. Add to that the fact that some companies were horrible at randomizing where the cards could be found in a box. Several times I knew where to find a certain card if the box were just opened. The guys running the shops knew these tricks, so they'd pull out that pack after opening a box, open the pack, put the high value card in a collector's sleeve and sell it for several times the price of the pack it came out of. Dismas|^(talk) 07:54, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you google [inside out swing baseball], you'll find plenty of references, including this one in a site providing tips for Little League.[1] Somewhere down the page is a still of Derek Jeter using that style. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would anybody touch up on this article?

It's FallDown! an iOS app . It's free by the way.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CHRISTIANgamer97 (talk • contribs)

Actually, reliable secondary sources unaffiliated with the subject which provide non-trivial coverage would be nice if you don't want the article to be deleted for lack of notability. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:18, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't delete other's comments. Ian.thomson (talk)

November 12

Good website to find info on musicians

...Question moved from WP:RDTK

I'm looking for a website that databases musicians and their discographies which also lists the personnel (not necessarily producers or technicians, just musicians) on each record... Or is there any website which allows me to input two musicians' names and returns only the records on which they both appear? Inasilentway (talk) 00:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discogs is pretty good for the first of these, not sure it can do the second though. --Viennese Waltz 01:13, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Movie Title Question

There's a movie I'm trying to remember the name of that has an explanation of a photograph, which if I recall correctly is of a street-level window looking into a basement factory. The explanation is of ice aircraft carriers in secret development. I thought it was in Shooting the Past, but just watched that again & didn't see it. Thanks!--Shandon (talk) 03:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Who's that

Hello fellows!

Can anybody identify this female singer? The image was taken on Aruba. Thanks. --High Contrast (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't Leave Me This Way

Who played bass on Thelma Houston's 1976 version of Don't Leave Me This Way? DuncanHill (talk) 13:32, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Davis played bass on this song. I would like to take credit for answering, but the same question was asked on TalkBass.com. I confirmed the answer on AllMusic.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petitelibrarian (talk • contribs) 15:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks. DuncanHill (talk) 16:02, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

add a celeb to graduate list

WOULD LIKE TO ADD A CELEB TO THE FAMOUS GRADUATE LIST. HIS NAME IS GARY H. MILLER. MY YOUNGER BROTHER. GARY GRADUATED IN 1965 AND WENT ON TO GRADUATE BKLYN. COLL. IN 1969 HE HAS WRITTEN FOR NUMEROUS SITCOMS FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS. INCLUDED ARE.. LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY,BOSOM BUDDIES, A DIFFERENT WORLD, 1ST AND TEN, REBA AND ANGIE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.200.56 (talk) 14:56, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your suggestion. When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top.
The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:55, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please write your brother's biography first, making sure to follow the guidelines at WP:BIO, WP:BLP, WP:RS and WP:COI. Please don't add the name to a list of famous graduates if the article hasn't been written yet. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 23:19, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cakes

Other than the obvious, what songs feature cake? Any kind I'm not that fussy. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 17:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a few: Sugar Minott - "Slice of the Cake", Junior English - "Piece of the Cake", Mousefolk – "Grannies Cake Crisis", Crowded House - "Chocolate Cake", Razorcuts - "Big Pink Cake".--Michig (talk) 17:50, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We have that Category:Cake songs but disappointly these are songs by a band called "Cake"...Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:16, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And as a proper answer, here are thirty with more suggestions. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 18:17, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also "Doll Parts" by Hole ("I want to be the girl with the most cake"). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:53, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe 21 Questions contains the line "I love you like a fat kid loves cake". Card Zero (talk) 21:48, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--NorwegianBlue^talk 23:51, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you know there's a band called Cake, of Short Skirt Long Jacket fame. Vranak (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And there's My Friend The Chocolate Cake too. HiLo48 (talk) 01:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~"Someone left the cake out in the rain ..." - Richard Harris — Michael J 01:02, 13 November 2011 (UTC)~~[reply]

You really should have checked that first Wikilink in the original question. HiLo48 (talk) 01:11, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry. I didn't even recognize it as a Wikilink. (Sometimes the colors don't show up well on my monitor.) Throw a cake at me please/ — Michael J 01:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is an American Pie a cake? HiLo48 (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CBW said, "Any kind I'm not that fussy", so I'm assuming non-savoury baked goods, broadly construed, would be ok... tho Porcupine pie might be pushing it. --Shirt58 (talk) 08:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The cake is a lie.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 01:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This song is frequently accompanied by cake. Mitch Ames (talk) 01:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly was at my house last night. :) -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 03:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hot Cross Buns are sort of cakes HiLo48 (talk) 02:12, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Pat-a-cake, pat-a-cake, baker's man" - technically a nursery rhyme, but according to the article recorded as a song by several people. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:14, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Wikipedia search finds Chocolate Cake (song), If I Knew You Were Comin' I'd've Baked a Cake, Singing A Song In The Morning / Eleanor's Cake (Which Ate Her) ... Mitch Ames (talk) 02:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks everybody. I promise to use these all responsibly in my ongoing attempts to annoy the sister of my daughter-in-law. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 07:20, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But wait. There's more.... Stereophonics recorded "Carrot Cake and Wine". HiLo48 (talk) 07:37, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Both Sting and Peter, Paul and Mary sang about Soul cake. HiLo48 (talk) 07:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Piece of Cake" by Jethro Tull. Dismas|^(talk) 07:46, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Connie Francis recorded "The Wedding Cake" HiLo48 (talk) 07:51, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Wedding Cake Island" by Midnight Oil?--Shirt58 (talk) 07:53, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, of course! Except that it wasn't quite a song. But I guess our Minister for School Education, etc still got to dance. HiLo48 (talk) 08:22, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which is more embarrassing: his dancing when with the Oils, or his political career thus far? --Shirt58 (talk) 08:41, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Carly Simon's Hotcakes even tells us how to cook them. HiLo48 (talk) 08:27, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but Matthew and Son mentions a "cup of cold coffee and a piece of cake". Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 10:08, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"What do you do when the moon shines bright and you're sitting alone in the flat? I pour a cup of tea and I gulp a slice of cake and see how quick I get fat." - Out with the Light by Ivor Cutler, on the album A Flat Man. See also the next track, I Ate a Lady's Bun. Card Zero (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Birthday Cake by Rihanna. 174.95.227.232 (talk) 07:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. I never realised that there were so manu. Thanks all. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 17:10, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 13

interspersing of situations in cinema, what do you call it?

I would use a literary technique perfected by Llosa to describe it. You often see this in cinema too. Jaromil Jires's Joke (based on Kundera novel of the same title) is an obvious example. This clip for example. Any accepted term for this kind of intercuts? --117.253.199.65 (talk) 05:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When you give us a 13.5 minute clip, you really need to provide time indexes to what you mean, so we don't have to watch the entire thing. I'm assuming you refer to the intercuts between band members playing and having a good time with prisoners at hard labor and having a bad time. This would be juxtaposition, although we seem to lack an article on it's artistic usage. Here's a definition and examples from the TV series Lost: [2]. StuRat (talk) 04:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Something more than juxtaposition, it seems to me. The first shift happens in approximately the 10th second of the clip. Next in the 25th. The manner of transition also matters. From 2:00 you see the new recruits are being rushed through the hallway (flashback). At 2:10 the abrupt cut shows the audience coming out of the hall where the protagonist watched a baby parade. There should be some name like jump cut to describe the technique? --117.253.191.26 (talk) 11:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jump cut is something different. Smash cut seems to be what you are describing. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:06, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good historical film on imperialism in Africa, 19th century

I'm looking for a good, fairly modern historical (fiction) film on European imperialism in 19th century Africa. Something that is not totally offensive (not just a white man's burden tale). Any suggestions? I'm having trouble locating things which aren't South African productions of the apartheid era, which I'm more than a little suspicious of. --Mr.98 (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would Zulu do? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a little suspicious, to be honest. I haven't seen it. But the poster, the date, and the description makes it sound a little too propagandistic for the purposes I'm interested in. I want something that is balanced, not a "let's all root for the white guys" sort of affair. --Mr.98 (talk) 02:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Zulu is from the white point of view, but many of the people involved were left-wing/revisionists (e.g. John Prebble) and it treats the Zulus quite respectfully while being critical of the English upper classes. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, well, maybe I'll check it out, then. --Mr.98 (talk) 17:01, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a list somebody has compiled. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's a useful place for me to look. --Mr.98 (talk) 02:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While Burn! is set in a fictional Caribbean island populated by African slaves and colonial masters, not in Africa itself, it does a good job of portraying the various methods used to intimidate and control the natives. StuRat (talk) 04:17, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is the TV miniseries Shaka Zulu, long a favorite of independent UHF TV stations because it allowed them to show lots of naked boobs. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 23:12, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Werner Herzog's Cobra Verde? Staecker (talk) 23:51, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 14

Question about cultural reference in "Dude, Where's My Ranch?"

Hi there. In The Simpsons' episode 14x18 - "Dude, Where's My Ranch?" - Homer haggles with the chieftain of a Native American tribe about the amount of blackjack packs they should use in the Casino they are willing to build. Unfortunately, I have to idea why that's supposed to be funny since I don't get the cultural reference. Can someone explain it to me? Regards So Why 14:29, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's to do with card counting: the fewer the decks the better for the card-counter (not because it's easier to remember, because card counting doesn't involve actually memorising cards, but because the probability can become more highly skewed more easily if there is a smaller number of cards; if there was an infinite number of cards then card-counting would give you no insight into future probabilities). The article "card counting" doesn't properly explain the effect of the number of decks, but it does mention that increasing the number of decks has been used to combat card counters. --Colapeninsula (talk) 15:58, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Service that notifies you when an album by one of your bands comes out?

Is there any sort of online service where you can put in a list of your favorite music artists or groups, and then it notifies you when an album by one of them comes out? (What would also be nice: notification if they're having a concert in your area). Thanks. Ab e g92contribs 14:45, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songbird offers both those things as plugins, based on your library. As for concerts, it uses songkick.com which you can also use without Songbird. Unfortunately, it seems to use MusicBrainz for the new releases database which does not offer the same feature without it. Regards So Why 15:49, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

role playing ga,mes

Are there any guides (books preferably)for designing/making role playing games (rpgs)Heck froze over (talk) 03:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tabletop or video game? Googling "making your own RPG" gives a lot of results either way, and Amazon has a few books on programming them[3], as well as some software[4][5]. --Colapeninsula (talk) 09:35, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Preferably for tabletop types(i can find ones on programming at my library) though I would think there would be elements common to both styles. I actually meant more for the game design/mechanics. Heck froze over (talk) 18:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Baseball postseason number of games

If my math is correct, there can be anywhere from 24 to 41 postseason MLB games. What is the average number of postseason games per year over, say, the last 20 or so years? Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:28, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, the minimum possible is 24 and the maximum possible is 41, i.e. all sweeps vs. all series going the distance. You should go back only as far as 1995, the first year that the playoffs went from 4 teams to 8 teams. Then take a look at the year-by-year results since then,[6] and you can do that additional math. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:35, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disbanding the NBA players' association

The National Basketball Association's Players' Association has announced that they have rejected the league's final offer in their labor dispute, and are saying they are going to disband the union as a result. What purpose does disbanding the union accomplish? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 21:31, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's called "decertification". The reason is that members of a union cannot sue their employers during negotiations; contract negotiations are supposed to be in good faith, and preventing parties for these negotiations from filing lawsuits is seen as a means of encouraging face-to-face negotiations to proceed. The purpose of decertification is to allow the members of the union to file suit in a court of law against the NBA owners. The NFLPA (National Football League Players Association) has used this tactic twice during work stoppages, in 1987 and again in 2011. See 2011 NFL lockout for the most recent example, Wikipedia's info on the 1987 NFL strike is pretty scant; the NFLPA didn't actually recertify after that one for 6 years, meaning that from 1987-1993, the players didn't have a union, but it did allow them to file an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL and ultimately forced the NFL owners to agree to the major terms of the 1987 strike; the 1993 CBA was in force for 18 years, the longest period in any of the 4 major sports without a major work stoppage. The 2011 NFLPA decertification was much shorter, players were without an official union for only about 4 1/2 months. The NBAPA is hoping for similar results, though I must say the world today is a very different place than 20 years ago, and the issues facing the 2011 NBA players are different than the 1987 NFL players. --Jayron32 22:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for the explanation. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of video game magazines?

Does anyone here possibly know where I could find a list of video gaming magazines that are currently in print? I saw something like what I'm looking for on Wikipedia before, can't seem to find it now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CHRISTIANgamer97 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you saw Category:Video game magazines? Staecker (talk) 23:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 15

How to make a meme

How do I make a successful Internet meme? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.10.11 (talk) 11:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By being original, imaginative, and creative, rather than having to ask other people. Seriously. See also internet meme.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Take a stupid photo, put some stupid text on it, and post on 4chan.[7][8][9][10] --Colapeninsula (talk) 13:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You don't. You put what you've made on the internet and either people find it interesting (for any one of a variety of reasons) or they don't. I would venture that there are so many variables in this process that the mechanism for controlling it does not exist. Although imagination and creativity may help, they are not the only factors involved. Britmax (talk) 11:49, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

what is this music?

What is the music in this youtube video play starts at 1.59?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMi4XTy_5tc&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLCA094F2FDD3EB4E0 139.184.30.131 (talk) 13:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3D!

Is it the screen of the 3D tv that makes it 3D?Simple answer please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.71.62.59 (talk) 16:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Generally no, but with some exceptions. In most cases, the 3D effect is created using special glasses worn by the viewer. Some glasses use LCD shutters opening and closing several times a second, while others have special filters as lenses. In each case, the glasses only permit the eye to see the image meant for that eye, then the brain puts the two images together and you perceive an image in three dimensions. One exception is the new glasses-free screens as seen on the Nintendo 3DS and some new cell phones. Here it is the screen that produces the 3D effect, in that (basically) every other column of pixels on the screen is meant for one eye. Again, the brain puts things together and you see 3D. --McDoob AU 93 16:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

However, you probably need the screen to do something different than normal, even in systems that use 3D glasses. For example, if every other scene is meant for the opposite eye, then you would want to display at twice the refresh rate and brightness, to avoid jerkiness or dimness. StuRat (talk) 19:17, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

True, but the higher refresh rates (usually 120Hz or higher are recommended for good 3D) are also available on 2D-only HDTVs, as well, so while the settings for 3D are different, a lot of 2D TVs have the same settings. The high refresh rates on 2D TVs supposedly improved color fidelity and produced sharper pictures; check out this article from about 4 years ago, when TVs with the higher refresh rates started appearing. --McDoob AU 93 19:52, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source Code

In 2011's Source Code, I don't understand how something that has already occurred ends up being undone. Granted, if some unforseen glitch in the link-up allows the mind of Gyllenhaal's character to continue existing in the alternate reality because of his action preventing the initial train bomb from detonating, that may exist within an alternate, parallel reality. Then, it's entirely possible for him to send Cpt. Goodwin an email message alerting her to the train detonation that did not occur because of him, her and the entire project. But that, again, would all be in the alternate, parallel reality -- it wouldn't be able to cross over into the current reality, in which the train bomb exploded hours ago. Now while this may seem obvious to some, I sense that the film makes it appear as though the bomb never exploded in any reality, generating a sort of fallacy of four terms that is being pulled over the audience's eyes. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 17:46, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your sense is completely wrong as stated in the film repeatedly. He cannot stop the bomb from exploding in the reality that his physical body is in. Every time he goes into the "source code", he is visiting an alternate reality in which everything up to that point is the same as the reality he came from. His actions do not actually change the alternate reality. What happens in the alternate reality is what happens. He is playing part in it. His email was to an operator in an alternate reality that basically said "Hey! The source code thing works. While I didn't save anyone in my reality, I stopped a bomber in yours." -- kainaw ™ 17:58, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, then what's the novelty that was unexpected...was it that they didn't anticipate the potential for there to be an alternate reality possible, but he has discovered that it's there? In what sense is that significant, because an alternate reality has no bearing on a parallel reality, and the absence of an alternate reality is just as remarkable in its parallel reality as no alternate reality at all? DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 18:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

His job is to use the alternate reality to identify the bomber so they can stop him BEFORE he strikes again in the current reality. So, they are using past history in an alternate reality to direct the future in the current one. As stated repeatedly in the movie, he cannot stop the bomb in the current reality. He can only identify the bomber and he has to do it quickly because this isn't time travel. He cannot go back in as many times as he wants. He has to complete the identification before it is too late to stop the bomber. -- kainaw ™ 18:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know -- I watched the film. My question relates to the last minute of the film, in which the email sent by Gyllenhaal's character to Cpt. Goodwin asserts that the source code is better than they expected -- in what way is it better than expected? And furthermore, how many people watching the film realize that the ending (with Goodwin reading the text sent by Gyllenhaal's character) is no longer the continuous reality of the entire film, but rather a jump into the alternate reality? I think the point is that we are unaware if alternate realities exist, but Gyllenhaal's character is confirming that they do because he's the only one to be able to sense both of them. For the Goodwin at the end of the film, that's her reality, and in it, the next time the source code will be used will potentially generate a further alternate reality. I can't say that I expect most people to get this -- they're probably thinking that when Gyllenhaal's character says "things are better than they thought," that it means that the past can be changed. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 00:45, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I felt that the point was hammered so forcefully into the heads of the viewers that a passing cow would understand the concept. The workers with the Source Code know that alternate timelines exist because they have to exist or the thing wouldn't function. They repeatedly state throughout the film that you can't stop the bomb or save anyone because you are in an alternate timeline. They wouldn't keep saying that if they had no idea alternate timelines existed. Since it is beat so severely into the heads of all the viewers that inside the source code is an alternate timeline, I think that it is obvious to everyone who watches it that the end of the movie is an alternate timeline. Further, the whole "things are better than they thought" thing fits with the movies premise: You cannot change your own past, but you can use the history of alternate timelines to direct the future. He is using the history of the main timeline to direct the future of the alternate timeline. -- kainaw ™ 13:55, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright -- I saw that as the anticipated benefit of the source code, rather than something over and above. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 22:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WWII films

Britain made some splendid war films in the 1950s (and Hollywood turned out some jolly decent ones in the 1960s). Many of them were of course set in Germany. My question is whether these were ever appreciated or even seen by German audiences. (Dubbing them into German would seem rather bizarre.) And did Germany produce anything equivalent? (I'm familiar with Das Boot, but that came much later and was more of an anti-war film.)--Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Films like Reach for the Sky, or A Bridge Too Far, do you mean? Interesting question. I wouldn't have thought they'd go down too well with a German audience! However, Bridge on the River Kwai might have found an audience there... Sorry I can't answer it but you've put a smile on my face! --TammyMoet (talk) 18:57, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't think they would want to see one-sided films, the equivalent of Hogan's Heroes, where Germans are all portrayed as either evil or idiots. They might have appreciated a more balanced approach, as you had in some WW2 films. However, they probably just wanted to forget about the war well into the 1950s. Perhaps by the 1960s they were more willing to remember it. StuRat (talk) 19:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Die Brücke (film) (1959) is the only one that comes to mind. It was remade in 2008. --Saddhiyama (talk) 19:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We also have pages on The Last Ten Days (1955), Der 20. Juli (1955), Hanussen (1955), Children, Mother, and the General (1955), Stalingrad: Dogs, Do You Want to Live Forever? (1959), Stars (1959), Five Days, Five Nights (1960), Star-Crossed Lovers (1962), Man and Beast (1963), Naked Among Wolves (1963), and Frozen Flashes (1967). All of them are German WW2 films (some of them co-productions), but I don't know if you'd describe them as shoot-em-up adventures. --Antiquary (talk) 19:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about German films actually produced during WW2, showing how supposedly evil, corrupt, ruthless and degenerate the Allied forces were? They would be fascinating to watch, with subtitles at least. Ditto for German or Japanese cartoons equivalent to the ones made in the US showing Popeye beating up Axis soldiers and leaders. Edison (talk) 21:05, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Our article Nazism and cinema and List of German films 1933–1945 seem to support my initial thought that the Germans tended to produce either heavy handed propoganda documentaries like Sieg im Westen or lightweight escapism like Die Feuerzangenbowle. There are some historical dramas, which rather like Henry V in the UK, make their point by drawing historical parallels; the most famous was Kolberg. There are some anti-semetic dramas such as Jud Süß, but I couldn't find anything like the British films that ridiculed the enemy like The Goose Steps Out. Maybe the Germans really didn't have a sense of humour. Alansplodge (talk) 18:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other rings in Lord of the Rings

I know that the One Ring in Lord of the Rings makes its wearer invisible. It appears, though, that there are other magic rings in the story too. Do they have similar powers? JIP | Talk 20:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Any of these Rings of Power seemed to render a man who wore it invisible. " (regarding "the 9". There are others.) --LarryMac | Talk 21:16, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See the Rings of Power article on the LOTR Wiki - all the rings could confer great power on the wearer, the One Ring especially was supposed to give the wearer quasi-unlimited power. Invisibility seems comparatively weak as regards "unlimited power" - maybe Bilbo and Frodo just didn't have the imagination necessary to truly tap into the ring's potential for wreaking havoc -- Ferkelparade π 21:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think, IIRC from the books, that the One Ring's greatest power was its ability to control the other rings (and thus their wearers); hence "One power to rule them all...etc." That's where the Ringwraiths came from; they were wearers of the original lesser rings of power who became bound to Sauron through the connection to the One Ring. --Jayron32 01:23, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The other rings don't necessarily make their bearers' invisible. During the books Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel wore the three "Elven rings". Arguably Galadriel's ring helped her keep Lothlórien hidden, which might count as a form of invisibility... Pfly (talk) 04:39, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The 9 rings given to the men of Numenor didn't turn them invisible. They just wilted away after so long. No idea what their powers were, but Sauron kept them to control the Nazguls/Ringwraiths. The 7 dwarven rings supposedly enhanced their crafting abilities, and I don't recall much else mentioned about them, other than they were mostly lost. The three elven rings didn't turn the wearers invisible either. If so, Gandalf, Elrond, and Galadriel would all have been invisible. Gandalf's ring was able to control fire (thus his affinity with fire, as seen even in the Hobbit). Galadriel's ring was said to preserve time. In the books, when the fellowship visited Lothlorien, they thought they were there for a day when it was actually a month or so. The One Ring also wasn't quasi-unlimited power. It was crafted with Sauron's own powers, IIRC to make himself seem weaker when he doesn't have it. So when it was destroyed, that part of his power went with it. The One Ring was supposed to have 3 powers, I think. Invisibility, preservation (how Gollum lived so long), and something else. When the One Ring was destroyed, all the rings lost their power as well. So Rivendell and Lothlorien started wilting away, which was one of the main reasons the elves left Middle Earth afterwards. This is all from memory, and I haven't read the books in awhile, so there might be a mistake or two. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 20:40, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi Movie : Chand Sa Roshan Chehra!

Hello !

I am been looking for the Hindi Movie Chand Sa Roshan Chehra for long on the Internet but got no success. If some one has downloaded/watched or found on the internet some where .please tell me i will be very thankful.

I am looking for video songs only .

Thank YOu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.252.114 (talk) 23:48, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 16

Billy Connolly's Route 66 TV Series

What are the specs for the trike that Billy Connolly uses in the series "Billy Connolly's Route 66" ? The reason for the question is that someone told me that it has a car engine but not entirely sure what kind. 92.27.75.60 (talk) 13:53, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It seems it's a 100 HP Ford engine[11], which replaced a VW engine that the trike had earlier. It has four cylinders, although Billy tends to make up lies [12] about it for his own amusement. Card Zero (talk) 16:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ha ha! Thanks for that link; it amused me too.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

November 17

The X-Files - The Red and the Black (05X14)

I was watching this episode on VHS & noticed that in the scene where Scully is in Dr. Werber's office about to get hypnotized, she shakes hands with Dr. Werber (I think just after she/they have sat done) with her left hand. Why did she do that ? Considering that I thought shaking hands with your left hand is supposed to be insult. I'm left handed & on occasion automatically go to put out my left hand & when that has happened the people I was with totaly refused to shake hands with me,even AFTER I apologized & offered my right hand. 80.254.146.140 (talk) 13:11, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, our own article Handshake does not (yet) address the question. It is well known and easily verifiable in other articles and via G**gle that in Arabic and Muslim cultures the left hand is considered ritually unclean and, in those cultures, offering the left hand is considered an insult.

Outwith those cultures (or in emigrants retaining this trope as a matter of family culture) I do not know of and cannot immediately find references to the same attitude: everyone else would expect a right-handed handshake and would be wrong-footed (sorry!) by the left being proffered, but perceived insult seems unlikely.

However, as mentioned in the article linked above, left-handed shakes have been used by the Scouting fraternity and by some secret societies, so purely as speculation one could suggest that, as The X-Files is all about hidden conspiracies (or so I understand - I've never watched it), the intention there was to suggest that the two parties involved are members of such a society, or maybe just known to each other as current or ex-Scouts/Guides! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.197.66.145 (talk) 17:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]