Talk:Cattle drives in the United States

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This article was nominated for deletion on 14 June 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Improvements

Anyone highly trained can improve my article, for I am a beginner article creator. --Sean gorter^(talk) 03:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

i'll do what i can when i find more time. this article need a lot of attention and most likely should be scrapped and started over. also i thnk the name should be changed simply to cattle drives. in that way cattle drives in other nations can be incorporated and then if the page is big enough expand to specific nation/region pages.--Tainter 18:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely true

Everything I wrote is absolutely true. You may try to give better words to my article, that is, going back to the first topic. --Sean gorter^(talk) 03:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Improved

Took the wikipedia principle to Be Bold and redid the entire article. Hope it's a significant improvement. Montanabw^(talk) 07:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some re-wording. Some of the grammar on this page was choppy. Also, I think it should be noted that the sections about the cow towns could stand to be revised. The section entitled "cow towns" is fairly good, but some of the information in unnecessarily repeated in other parts of the article. But I personally don't know enough about them to feel comfortable making the changes. Vervaine (talk) 21:43, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anything helps. The article needs a major fumigation, but with sources, and I haven't had the time to do it. Montanabw^(talk) 02:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's worth noting that the term "cow town" wasn't actually used much during the period covered by the "cow town" section. One of the quoted sources (Dykstra) actually notes that "cattle town" was the preferred period term, and that "cow town" was considered disparaging in the context of the Kansas cattle towns. It might also be worth expanding to take into account towns in other locations (eg. Montana or Wyoming) which might have had a different experience.Intothatdarkness (talk) 20:24, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem from my end. There's formal and informal use. An encyclopedia can use the more formal terms. While ther eis some regional terminology, I think this is consistent. "Cow town" in practical use, even today is often a half-humorous and often a bit self-deprecating term in the "we can call ourselves a perjorative term, but you outsiders can't" sort of way... the "I can say I live in a "cow town," but if you tell me I live in a cow town, I'll punch you in the nose." LOL! Montanabw^(talk) 21:58, 10 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just looked through this again, and the history section is in really horrible shape. The article contradicts itself in some places, and suffers from (as Montanabw noted) a lack of proper citations. Not sure if I'll work up the energy to haul back through it, but someone really should.Intothatdarkness (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Abilene Image

Since the map in the article is of Abilene TX and not Abilene KS (which is what's being discussed), should we change it? Or just get rid of it?Intothatdarkness (talk) 22:17, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It's silly to have a photo of the wrong town here. Abilene, Texas has nothing to do with Abilene, Kansas or the cattle trade. The photo adds nothing but confusion and should be deleted or replaced with a photo of Abilene, Kansas. Munchkyn (talk) 02:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Which Malone?

Several footnotes cite Malone in the form of (e.g.) "Malone, p.26".

However, there are two different Malones referenced in the bibliography.

Would an editor with time please figure out which is which and then clarify in the article? Tx Oconnell usa (talk) 20:46, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my experience with the Michael Malone book, I'd say the notes are coming from the other Malone work. I'd have to physically check, though.Intothatdarkness (talk) 20:58, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. Rjensen (talk) 21:08, 30 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is correct, however, the "other" Malone book may have been an uncited ref for Miles City, MT being an eventual railhead. Maybe take those refs that were removed and toss them here on the talk page for the benefit of future editors. Montanabw^(talk) 06:43, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]