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June 7

parsing error on wikipedia page for 'poundal'

received this error on wikipedia page for 'POUNDAL'

Failed to parse (syntax error): 4.66\,\text{slug} \cdot 8\,\tfrac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}^2} = 37.3\,\text{lb}_F</math Note: Slugs (32.174 049 lb_m) and poundals (1/32.174 049 lb_F) are never used in the same system, since each exists to solve the same problem and will cancel each other out; both should not be used together. Rather than changing either force or mass units, one may choose to express acceleration in units of the acceleration due to Earth's gravity (called g). In this case, we can keep both pounds-mass and pounds-force, such that applying one pound force to one pound mass accelerates it at one unit of acceleration (g): :$150\,{\text{lb}}_{m}\cdot 0.249\,{\text{g}}=37.3\,{\text{lb}}_{F}$ - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.17.143.76 (talk • contribs) 01:19, 7 June 2012‎ (UTC+1)

Corrected. Thanks for letting us know. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Image request

Hello, your FAQ suggested asking here for an existing member to upload an image for me as my account is too new to have been activated. I need to upload this image: http://www.simiansquared.com/simian_logo_tall.png for use in the article about the company. It is their logo and I think this constitutes fair use.

thanks,

IG — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndieGamerNet (talk • contribs) 03:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Where is the tall logo used? It looks to me like http://simiansquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simian1.png is the logo. It's used on all pages I examined at http://simiansquared.com. The wide format would also look better in the infobox at Simian Squared. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

-- on their old site they had a press pack that had all four and explained that on box art they use the tall graphics- if you think the wide one is better though could you please upload that one and edit it into the article?

I'm still pretty new to this so i'm not too sure of all the wiki rules on what we should use so thanks for advising me :) I'll continue to read through the FAQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by IndieGamerNet (talk • contribs) 16:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I have uploaded http://simiansquared.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/simian1.png to File:Simian Squared logo.png and added it to Simian Squared. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:40, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Writing numerals from right to left

Dear Friends of Wikipedia, I have just completed my first Draft Article but still have two problems I am unable to solve: 1. Writing numerals from right to left. 2. I was unable to correctly format "Palm Sumday" and can't find what is wrong with it. I would be grateful for your assistance. Sincerely Paterimon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paterimon (talk • contribs) 04:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

It would be easier to answer your questions if you gave a link to your draft article, so we could see what you are asking about. I have looked for the article in your contributions list, and can't find it.

(1.) I guess that, by "writing numerals from right to left", you mean, embedding a number written in "arabic" numerals within Arabic text. I can't help with this, and I know it can be a difficult problem. But I hope I have helped other editors to understand your question.

(2.) I observe that you have mis-spelled "Palm Sunday". Maproom (talk) 08:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Someone copied my user page as his/her own

User Nimfy has copied the user page of Patrick Edwin Moran and used it as his own user page. I prefer to retain my own identity. Please get this user to make up his own personal details, etc. P0M (talk) 05:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I've left User:Nimfy a polite note; hopefully he will adjust his userpage appropriately. Yunshui 雲‍水 07:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

The editor hasn't been around for 10 months so I've deleted it. Dougweller (talk) 10:27, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you.P0M (talk) 01:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

User attrition data

Hi, on WP:VP I asked about user attrition but received no response.. A sign or user attrition? Anyway, does anyone here have any idea if there is any serious data on that, preferably by some type user category (e.g. edited for more than 2 years, then quit, etc.). Else how can we talk someone (say at WMF) to get that data, so we don't wake up in a ghost town one day. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 09:18, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You might start with the stats at http://stats.wikimedia.org/ ; I think this internal page might be of interest. But I don't know that this tells you much about attrition of core users—people who edit a lot and perform the many administrative tasks that keep this place running (it's my impression that we've lost a lot and everything takes longer than it used to even with all our bots, filters, tools and scripts).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:51, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't get the same impression, I've been around since mid 2007, I think routine maintenance and admin has slowed down because of the increased workload rather than a decrease in the Wikignome population - how many million articles do we have now? Roger (talk) 12:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You might be right. But a lot of core places that I monitor are always backlogged like they didn't used to be. For examples, WP:RM used to be more efficient even when everything was done by hand, and is constantly backlogged now. Helpme requests sit for hours or days sometimes. WP:AIV used to be monitored to such an extent that you could barely blink before it was empty again. Again, just my unscientific impression.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

My intuitive feeling about content contributors is the same as your impression about admin activities. I just mentioned that to another user in the context of a nice essay someone else had started. I have seen a number of editors with 10,000 to 30,000 edits just shrug their shoulders and walk. That can not be good news, and the pages they used to watch are now totally neglected. And I have seen no statistics on those either. Thanks for the link, now in the last graph titled "Very Active Editors for All Wikimedia Projects (100+ edits per month)" the same trend is confirmed on English Wikiedia (the blue line): a steady decline in active editors in the past 2 years (dropping from 4,000). And please note that the simultaneous increase in article count exacerbates that effect. If that trend continues, in 3 years there may be half as many long term active editors per article. As I said on the user talk page the determined users seem to be those driven by COI, while frustration is driving away the best editors. Something needs to be done if we are to avoid the wiki ghost town. History2007 (talk) 14:20, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Is Editing with a first account after editing with IP prohibited ?

I was banned because I got a first account and edited with it after I edited as IP user.

First I edited only as IP user, but I liked wikipedia little by little and I decided to get a first account and I edited with it.

But I was banned and I was very surprised. The person who banned me told to me that the reason was sock puppet.

I understand editing with a sedond account after editing a first accout is strictly restricted. I understand editing with IP after editing a first account is sometimes restricted according to the purpose of user.

But is Editing with a first account after editing with IP prohibited ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.30.21.117 (talk) 10:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

It's hard to provide advice on an issue like this because it probably all depends on the circumstances. Taking the question at face value, of course editors are welcome to first edit as an IP and to later create an account and continue editing—that's what we hope will happen. However, if "ban" means what is described at WP:BAN, then no. If you provide the username that was banned (do you mean blocked?), people can give meaningful advice. Johnuniq (talk) 10:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reply . I used "ban" as "block". And I was a Japanese user and this happened in Japanese version. So probably you can not understand it if you read it. They are all written in Japanese. I want to be given general advice. I think if sock puppet includes this, all user become sock puppet user. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.30.21.117 (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

The rules regarding sockpuppetry are at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. If you were indeed blocked under an account name, you are not allowed to use an IP address to get round that block. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:30, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for replay. This was happened in Japanese wikipedia and I was blocked in Japanese wikipedia but I was not blocked in English version and policies and guidelines of Japanese version may differ from English version but policies and guidelines of Japanese version are all translation of English version, so I want to be given some advice here . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.30.21.117 (talk) 11:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Well the Japanese Wikipedia may have different policies and guidelines than the English one, so it's hard to know why you were blocked without knowing their policies. The notice on your talk page should include the policy under which you were blocked, if you think the block was unjust, you should appeal on your talk page there, we can't do anything on this Wikipedia about blocks on another Wikipedia. Quasihuman | Talk 10:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reply. I was a Japanese user, and this happended in Japanese wikipedia but policies and guidelines of Japanese version are all translation of English version. So I questioned here. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 11:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.30.21.117 (talk) 11:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I note that the guideline Wikipedia:Appealing a block has a Japanese version at Wikipedia:投稿ブロックへの異議申し立て. Perhaps that is of some help? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 11:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

... and similarly there is a Japanese inter-wiki link on sockpuppetry. Please also be more careful with the indentation of your comments. If you are replying to someone else's comment, your comment should be indented one step further than theirs so that the flow of the conversation may be more easily followed. I have attempted to correct your indentation above. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:22, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

It's impossible to evaluate your case without seeing it. I'm guessing the block is based on specific circumstances and that general advice based on policy by itself will have low relevance to your case. You really have to take this up at the Japanese Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

The page is here. http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%88%A9%E7%94%A8%E8%80%85%E2%80%90%E4%BC%9A%E8%A9%B1:Gtyuio Japanese administrators are very stubborn. I don't like to write personal name. But all Japanese people don't look at here so I write. They are all stubborn, but especially "Rakko", a very notorious administrator, who blocked me. I took that step but they decided to continue block. Policies and guidelines of Japanese version are all translation of English version and so the policies and guidelines are not different from those of English version. I don't think that editing with a first account after editing with IP is prohibited, because it is not written. But they insist that it is sock puppet even in this case. I really appreciate if some advice are given to persuade Japanese stubborn administrators. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 12:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

To answer your question, it is NOT prohibited to contribute first as an IP user, and then as a registered user. However, I see a whole different story. You initially participated in the discussion on AIDS as an IP user. You then signed up for an account, and continued participating in the same discussion as a registered user. Some other participants asked you if the comments of the IP user belong to you, but you did not respond.

Under the policy of Japanese Wikipedia, editors are strongly encouraged to use single user account when participating in discussions. It is prohibited to manipulate multiple accounts to mislead discussions. Based on this policy, you are blocked for improper use of multiple accounts. Nevertheless, you counter argued that you did not violate the sock puppetry policy as IP user does not count as an account.

After observing series of your action, including but not limited to evading blockage by changing IPs and attempting to spread pernicious propaganda as you did on English Wikipedia, we have determined that we cannot afford your action any longer and imposed indefinite block.

You are always welcomed to start up a dialogue to request unblock as its procedures described above.--Tomo_suzuki ( talk ) 14:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

That is not what it happened. You know I initially participated in the discussion as an IP user and signed up for an account and continued participating in the same discussion as a registered user because I responded so. Furthermore I did not make more than one account so I did not use multiple account. If I created second account, what is the name of that account? Furthermore I didn't edit with bad intention. It is totally what it happened. I used that procedures but they decided to continue my block. I feel I did nothing bad but I was brutally punished. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

it's easy. IP user(Anonymity account) is included in account. In order to understand especially the purpose of Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry.--Vigorous action (talk) 07:32, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

IP is not account. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The fact that you don't see the concern here strengthens the rationale for your block in my opinion. If you edit a discussion as an IP and then continue editing the same discussion with an account, it appears that two people have your view rather than just you. It is fine to create an account, but you mustn't contribute to the same discussion with an account and with an IP without first declaring that you are the same person. Since I don't know the whole story, all I can tell you is that the most likely way for you to get unblocked is to declare the fact that you weren't fully aware of the policies and in the future you will only edit with that new account. Ryan Vesey Review me! 14:46, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I said so and I read policies well, but they decided to continue blocking me. My account has been blocked for more than one year. Japanese administrators are strange people. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 08:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

In my understanding, you are claiming innocence based on your own belief that "IP is not an account" rather than admitting your mistakes. Whether or not you deliberately used multiple IPs and user IDs when contributing to the same discussion, you did in fact acted against our policy. I am afraid that your block will continue unless you stop putting the wrong slant on our policies. --Tomo_suzuki ( talk ) 09:44, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

IP is not account. This is not my personal belief. This is definition. There is a rule that editing with a second account after editing a first account is strictly restricted. There is a rule that editing with IP after editing a first account is sometimes restricted according to the purpose of user. However, the rule that editing as an IP and later creating an account and continue editing is prohibited is not written in Japanese guidelines as well as English guidelines. That rule is not written and that rule is only in administrators' brain. Administrators should not punish without law. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 11:05, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Please understand that we do not mean to "punish" you by blocking. As soon as you correctly understand our policy, your request for unblock will be reconsidered. Please also acknowledge the one simple fact that you joined the discussion as User:Gtyuio, then as 125.30.21.117, and then as 125.30.21.117. It wrongly appears that there are three users who have same opinions though there is one real, living you. You just ignored the warning about this and evaded the block. We had no other ways but to block you.--Tomo_suzuki ( talk ) 13:16, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

That is not true. You are telling a lie. --125.30.21.117 (talk) 18:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Short sections

Disregard

 – I feel I make problems out of things that are not really issues and not worth worrying about. I should be quiet until someone is actually going to complain about it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 23:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

WP:BODY says "Very short or very long sections and subsections in an article look cluttered and inhibit the flow of the prose." How can I avoid having many short section, when I have a number of unrelated subtopics in an article. In the case at hand, there are many different published facts about the topic, but there is not so much to say about each fact such that a reasonably long section could be made. Of course I could just make a section such as Other facts about .... and throw in everything there, but I believe this looks even less appealing than a couple of very short sections. Any advice? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 10:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

As an additional question, when is a section very short as used in WP:BODY? Is a section consisting of 2 phrases, together comprising around 30 to 40 words very short? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

How does one enter a footnote?

There are a great many FAQs about footnotes. I can't locate the one that simply informs a new user how to footnote an entry, i.e., how to enter a number, and how to relate that number to the same number at the bottom of the entry. EdenGeneva (talk) 12:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Is there some specific point in Help:Footnotes or WP:Referencing for beginners which is causing you difficulty? - David Biddulph (talk) 12:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You add footnotes by using ref tags. For example, if you want to to add a footnote saying This is an example footnote, you would add <ref>This is an example footnote</ref> at the place in the Wiki markup where you want the footnote (the small number) to appear. If you then place {{Reflist}} somewhere on the page, the footnotes will be shown there. The numbering of those footnotes will be generated automatically. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 12:46, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

What Toshiro Yamaguchi wrote is true. However, footnotes are usually used to provide citations to sources. Wikipedia does not have a house citation style, so if you are editing an existing article, you will have to observe the system previous editors have adopted and follow the same system. If you cannot detect any system (which is unfortunately true of many articles) ask on the article's talk page. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I have added a properly formatted reference to your sandbox.[1] Note that the reference numbers are created automatically. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

How do you change the title of a page?

For example from Tom Smith to Tom Smith, Jr.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.219.160 (talk • contribs)

See WP:MOVE but also note WP:NCPDAB.--ukexpat (talk) 13:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

How can I give wikipedia permission to use my copyrighted picture?

I own a picture & want to put it on a wiki article.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.219.160 (talk • contribs)

See WP:Donating copyright materials.--ukexpat (talk) 13:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

'Jeroen Speak' proposed for deletion

Hello, a page I created has been scheduled for deletion, I have now added referneces, but unsure how to remove the {{prod}} tag that you mention, nor am I sure yet if the references have been deemed suitable. Many thanks in advance for your advice. Score555 (talk) 13:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

There's no {{BLPPROD}} tag on the article any longer, and the references provided are adequate to prevent it being re-added. (More, and better, refs would be good, though). If anyone wishes to propose this for deletion now, it will need to be discussed by the community at Articles for deletion. Yunshui 雲‍水 13:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

numerical ordering

I have a bulleted list that i would like to automatically sort into numerical order. Can anyone help me on how to do this? thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.39.176.12 (talk) 14:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

The best way to do that is in a table, see WP:TABLE.--ukexpat (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Search finding previous title

Dear Wikipedia-Community,

an article was started with the name "Michael Holick" by somebody else a while ago. I expanded it a lot and referenced it etc. The person's name I was writing about is actually "Michael F. Holick", not "Michael Holick". "Michael F. Holick" is the name that's used in his publications etc and he has a son also named "Michael", so the "F." is important. So I redirected the article from "Michael Holick" to "Michael F. Holick". The problem is, that if you search for "holick", it still displays "Michael Holick" and not "Michael F. Holick" in the search list. Any ideas or anybody out there who knows how to solve that problem?

Thanks a lot,

best regards Matt

PS:

Michael F. Holick — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matthias3110 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You moved the article only a few hours ago. The search engine will probably catch up in a few days.— Preceding unsigned comment added by David Biddulph (talk • contribs)

I have tagged it for deletion as too promotional - the whole thing reads like a cv, resume, or website profile.--ukexpat (talk) 15:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

HELP

IN TUNISIA SOMEONE TOLD ME ABOUT PROBLEMS WITH LINKEDIN WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT AS WE ARE MEMBERS ,WHAT DO WE DO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.225.195.150 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 7 June 2012‎ (UTC+1)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Change your password. Please read LinkedIn.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Cite Button

When you were editing, there used to be an extremely helpful "cite" button with "advanced", "special characters", and "help", but that disappeared suddenly. I found that the cite button made it much more useful to cite than having to type in all of the code. Is there any way to get it back? Brambleberry ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 16:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:REFTOOLS. You can enable the advanced toolbar via my preferences > editing > usability features and checking the box. The cite button - now a dropdown menu - appears at the extreme right of the editing toolbar. Karenjc 17:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Karenjc! Brambleberry ^{Chat ♠ Watch} 22:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Just a BTW - is a signature allowed to contain an image file? Roger (talk) 07:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia:Signatures#Images forbids them and explains why. Someone has already mentioned this at User talk:Brambleberry of RiverClan. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:09, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

3RR

Hey guys. I've been trawling recent changes, reverting all kinds of vandalissm and got stuck in this. I've not {{subst:Uw-3rr}} on User talk:64.78.191.238, but I don't know how to go about further action. Thanks! 109.149.78.250 (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Look at the guidance at WP:DR RudolfRed (talk) 17:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Legal duties of a c.m.

what are the legal duties of a c.m if he knows some crime has happened? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.15.195.67 (talk) 17:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I am sorry, we cannot give legal advice.--ukexpat (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

And even if we were allowed to, we couldn't tell without knowing what part of the world you are talking about and what a c.m. might be. And in any case, this help desk is for questions about using and editing Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Accidental Category Creation.

I've accidentally created a category, it appears that I was somehow able to create the category at a very high level.

Category:Larry Weir

I'm not sure how to proceed with having the category removed or moved. 009o9 (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I have added a {{db-g7}} to [[Category:Albums produced by Larry Weir]] for you. See Template:Db-g7 for more info. Rwessel (talk) 19:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Er, no. The problem (which 990o0 has already fixed) was in the name of the category, not its existence. They have already changed the 'Category' link in Teen Witch the Musical, and have therefore removed the db-g7 that you added. --ColinFine (talk) 20:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Vandals on the Wikipedia

Hello there. Is there a special page where I can find vandals and report them? Morgan Katarn (talk) 18:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You asked that yesterday, got an answer, and went there already. Did you forget?--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:22, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

No, I know that there is an admin noticeboard against vandalism but my question was how to find vandals so that I can find them and report them. Is there a special page?? Morgan Katarn (talk) 18:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh sorry I misread your question. You report them at AIV, and the only way to find vandals is to come across their edits, you could try monitoring Special:RecentChanges--Jac16888 ^Talk 18:31, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

There is more information and guidance at WP:HTSV and WP:R Van. Thank you for wanting to help. Karenjc 18:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, Twinkle RudolfRed (talk) 18:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest Lupin's Anti-vandal tool. You can add it to your javascript page and it filters recent changes for things that are likely to be vandalism. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ryan Vesey! I tried that but it is rather complicated. Can you please help me with that? What exactly do I have to do? Morgan Katarn (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

You've been here two days... I'd suggest you wait a little and get used to this place before getting stuck into Lupin's tool. Jac's suggestion about RecentChanges is a good one. Note you can filter it in different ways - have a play with its various settings. PS I love that you call it "the Wikipedia". It takes me back to my early days here. These days, the "the" seems to have become a thing of the past. --Dweller (talk) 19:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't find Lupin's tool to be an exceptionally powerful tool and it is often used before people get rollback rights, so I see no problem with using it. In order to use it Create Special:MyPage/Common.js and add the following script to the page. If you are on chrome just refresh the page, otherwise follow the instructions on top. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

importScript('User:Lupin/recent2.js');

Thanks! I copied and pasted that link into your link what you said and you can check my contributions and see my book and please tell me if I did it right. Morgan Katarn (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, the link I provided you was incorrect. "Common" should have been lowercase. It appears you did it correctly before that. If so, you should look on the left side of your screen in the toolbox. There should be a section that says "Filter recent changes". Click that. Ryan Vesey Review me! 20:40, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

See Category:Wikipedia_counter-vandalism tools. I like WP:Huggle. I see that quite a few others use WP:STiki. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 21:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Citing

I have a bunch of articles that I want to use as references for a Wiki page I am writing. The only problem is that these articles are saved to a cloud and I cannot get URL's for them. Please advise. Socialfactor (talk) 19:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

A URL is desired, but not necessary. For something to be included it has to be verifiable, but it doesn't need to be verifiable through the internet. I assume they are newspaper articles? Then I would suggest filling out {{Cite news}} with the information and without a URL. Ryan Vesey Review me! 19:34, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

M

How do I turn Mechanical pest control into a GA.--Deathlaser (talk) 20:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Start with WP:GA RudolfRed (talk) 22:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Deathlaser. This is a hard question to answer because there are many things that need to come together before an article is ready for good article (or featured) consideration. Have you looked at the good article criteria? Some things you can do relatively easily and others are not so easy. Obviously, the article needs to be well written, engaging, substantially free of spelling and grammatical errors and many people can't do this. Likewise, the articles needs to be fairly broad in its coverage of all aspects of the topic and only some have the ability to organize and gather the salient material (and discard the material that does not belong or limit it based on an assigment of weight to it) to make this a reality. But most people even if with some effort, can learn how to make an article comply with various aspects of the manual of style and make other edits. You can try to find free pictures to add. You can make the lead of the article compliant (right now it does not summarize the rest if the article); you can expand the existing citations to provide proper attribution (they currently do not provide nearly enough information). You can make sure all of the sources are reliable ones, and replace with better ones if they are not. And of course, you need to start searching for more sources to add material and cite to. I recommend starting with a Google Books search and simply opening up links you find, reading the material to learn about the subject for expansion and adding nuggets of information as your find them, carefully citing to the source for each one you find (but never copying ther words used). I'm sorry if this is a bit sprawling but the general nature of your question invited that. After the article is well along, you can request a copyedit--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Subject of new article has the same name as subject of an existing article

I want to write an article about a trail runner called Daniel Rowland, but if you search for "Daniel Rowland", an article about an 18th century Welsh Calvanist comes up. How do I create an article of the same name, but it's a different person? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walkerwriter (talk • contribs) 21:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps Daniel Rowland (athlete)? Jarkeld.alt (Talk) 21:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Good solution. It's usual to add headers at the beginnings of the two (or more) articles involved to guide the reader to the "other" article if they've not found the one they expected (so, for instance, Daniel Rowland might have a header reading something along the lines of "This article refers to the Welsh Calvinist minister: for the trail runner see Daniel Rowland (athlete)"). There's a set of guidelines at WP:DAB for how to go about all this, including how to create a disambiguation page, of which Phil Vickery is a completely random example to show what a disambiguation page, or "dab page" looks like. Tonywalton ^Talk 21:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:HATNOTE for how to do what Tonywalton suggested. --ColinFine (talk) 22:31, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

One doesn't generally need to create a dab page when there are only two articles for people with the same name (and one is titled with the bare name). A hatnote suffices. Deor (talk) 22:39, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Sock puppet template not working properly

{{Uw-agf-sock}}

I tried to add the template to to a Talk page with both the article and additional text specified. It didn't expand either. I then added it with just the article and put the additional text outside the template here. Still doesn't expand the article.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

That looks more like a bug in the documentation than a bug in the template. The template source seems not to take any parameters at all. The template appears not to be intended to refer to any specific edits at all; what are you actually trying to say? Tonywalton ^Talk 22:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I was going to refer to the article that evidenced the possible sock puppetry, and I was going to add the text I added outside the template inside the template.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I have edited the template [2] to make the documentation show there are no parameters. If somebody wants to add code for parameters then go ahead. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:12, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:39, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. The last time I tried to edit a template all springs came out the back, so I left this strictly alone! Tonywalton ^Talk 23:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

June 8

Software Error

Hi,

On the List of companies by revenue page, the table "Sortability" is buggy. When I tried to arrange the data by Revenue, it worked properly, but when sorted the data by both Market Capitalization and by Number of Employees, the sorting algorithm seemed alphabetic versus numeric.

An alphabetic sort could be like this:

a
add
b
c
cab

Where the numbers corresponding with each character are:

1
144
2
3
312

Of course, that is obviously not their correct numeric order. The number of digits should take precedence over the most significant digit.

I tried to figure out how to fix it myself on the page. I am new to editing, and am unfamiliar with the software and syntax used to make these tables, but it seemed that it was an internal software bug versus something that could be corrected by an edit.

Also, one piece of data looked weird to me: Vale's market capitalization = "$126,8"

Does that mean "$126,800" or "$1,268" or is it just completely incorrect?

Anyways, thanks for looking :)

I don't have a complete answer, as I have a meeting in minutes, but check out Help:Sorting. Thought perhaps the comma was the problem, but that link claims otherwise. I thought the references were a problems, but not clear why it works in one place but not the other. --SPhilbrick(Talk) 13:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I fixed it partially. The Exxon number was simply wrong, so I removed it. Several entries were "-" mostly because, I presume the info wasn't available. I think that field was viewed as text, so was inhibiting the sorting. The State Farm entry had a dash and a text entry, so I removed that as well. At least one had an N/A entry which I removed.

It largely sorts correctly with ironic exceptions. In some cases, someone used a template intended to make it sort correctly. However, that template's instructions say it should be used only when every field in the column uses the template, and that isn't the case.

There is more work to do. Many are sourced to a Forbes article, but I couldn't find any matching numbers, I think because the article has been updated, but the cell entries have not been. Someone needs to work on this. In the meantime, we probably need a maintenance template.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 21:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

National Alternative Dispute Resolution Advisory Committee (wrong title)

Hi I seek your assistance with changing the title of the above page to the 'National Alternative Dispute Resolution Advisory Council'. It is not a Committee (see www.nadrac.gov.au).

I would be grateful if you would amend the title as soon as possible.

Thank you RR79 — Preceding unsigned comment added by RR79 (talk • contribs) 00:06, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I've moved it to the correct title. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:58, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Must I be a famous person to create a new entry about myself?

I am a computer consultant, born in Hull, Yorkshire, England, and have lived for the last 21 years in Munich, Germany. Must I have achieved great success in personal or in business life to create a new entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobWheldon (talk • contribs) 09:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Firstly you need to be notable to have a Wikipedia article written about you. Secondly you should not write about yourself as you have a conflict of interest; see WP:Autobiography. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

However, you are welcome to write about yourself on your own user page User:BobWheldon. Maproom (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Please see wp:USERPAGES for guidelines on the use of your userpage. LeadSongDog come howl! 13:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

How to delete pages

I wish to ask how do you request to delete pages? The Deletion pages are a bit of a mish mash. The reason im asking is the following pages should be get get the axe:

• The_Most_Annoying_People_of_2009
• The_Most_Annoying_People_of_2010
• The_Most_Annoying_People_of_2011

Reason being I believe it falls under the same banner as the 100 Greatest series which had a number of page with top 20 list, but alas were chop and all we have no is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_Greatest_%28UK_TV_series%29 Shouldn't all TV countdown page be treated the same? User:Crazyseiko (talk) 09:40, 8 June 2012‎ (UTC)

Please read: WP:PROD and WP:AFD. These pages are two of the options to nominate an article for deletion. Please read WP:BEFORE before nominating.Jarkeld (talk) 09:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

My Page does not appear when searching.

Ive created a page to do with a local cemetery. Once atricle was finished I signed and timestamped it and then saved the page. However when I search for my topic on the Wiki search facility it tells me it does not exist and asks if I would like to create it. What am I doing wroung and how to I make my page visible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by St Josephs Rochsoles (talk • contribs) 10:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, you created the page at your userpage. As such it will not show up in regular searches. You could submit it via the article wizard. You might want to include a source on the basic information in the article before submitting. Jarkeld (talk) 10:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Magic words

I'd like to tweak P:OXFORD so that it doesn't display the Wikinews subpage unless a story has been added to it within the last six months. At the moment, I can use the following code to check for changes in 2012:

{{#ifeq: {{CURRENTYEAR}} | {{REVISIONYEAR|Portal:University of Oxford/Wikinews}} | [shows news page if updated in 2012] | [blank, or something else, if not updated in 2012}}

That's fine for now, but if a story is added to Wikinews in December 2012, I'd like to display it for some months in 2013 as well, which this approach doesn't allow. Is there an expression or formula that I can use that would calculate if the time between the last revision of the subpage and the present time is more than 6 months, say? Bencherlite^Talk 12:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

By my reading of mw:Help:Magic words, the REVISIONxxx magic words can only report on the current page, and don't accept any kind of parameter to make them report on a different page. So not only can I not solve your problem, but I think your current code won't work either. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

The magic word {{REVISIONYEAR}} only works for the page it's used in. It doesn't accept a parameter and if it did, the syntax would be {{REVISIONYEAR:page name}} and not {{REVISIONYEAR|page name}}. In your example, {{REVISIONYEAR|Portal:University of Oxford/Wikinews}} produces the red link 2012, but you don't see it because you compare it to something (it will never be equal to a year). You cannot retrieve information about the revision time of another page. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect information about me in article harming my reputation

Dear Sirs,

My complain concerns Ram Bahadur Bomjon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I am mentioned in the above article as the "Slovak woman". I did not practice witchcraft, never in my life, and never wanted to stop Bomjon's meditation. This information is strongly offending and false, and as I am a well-known member of the community of devotees, it is strongly harming my good name.

I was invited there by devotees to help as a volunteer translator in 2011, and I was enthusiastically working in his service all the time. I was and am his devotee and myself meditate. I never disturbed or blocked his meditation. I spent most my free time in silent meditation in the outside jungle, very far from Ram Bomjon. I was never "caught" at any witchcraft activity. My meditation was to promote the peace and love, and support Ram Bomjon in his mission. All was done inside my deep samadhi (meditation state). I never approached him in person.

Please correct your article, showing untrue data. Please also publish my website, explaining in detail all the affair. Thank you, Marici, Zsuzsanna Takacs, Slovakia. Halkoria.ewebsite.com

Thank you,

Zsuzsanna Takacs Citizen of Czech and Slovak Republics — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.212.40.249 (talk) 12:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Since the information was unsourced and it appears to be negative information about a living person, I removed it. Ryan Vesey Review me! 13:16, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Change photograph

I've never put in or taken out photos. How do I change out a photo, replacing an old shot with a new one? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PearlyG (talk • contribs) 13:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Does WP:Image tutorial help? --ColinFine (talk) 13:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I see that you have made a lot of edits to Anthony Kearns (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). That article has become a rather gushing fansite. I have removed some of the more blatant promotional stuff, but more work needs to be done.--ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Definition of censorship

Could you please direct me on where to go to get a proper definition or knowledge on reporting abusive actions by a editore.Also ould you please tell me why quoteing exact laws ad where to reference them is deemed as vandilsm Also could you please tell me what in ,your opinion constitutes censorism.It is my believe via the Constition of our United States that suppression of truthful,factual and verifiable information is censoreship,what is wikipedia's definition?Thank u for your time,,,paita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paitalona (talk • contribs) 14:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Do WP:VANDALISM and WP:NOTCENSORED help?--ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

This person does not seem to speak English very well. They are trying to insert personal opinions as to the meaning of U.S. laws, unsourced, into the article coca tea and when challenged they accuse us of incivility, censorship and violation of the Constitution (apparently the U.S. constitution). At one point, this same person referred to "so- called sweden"! --Orange Mike | Talk 14:32, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

See their talk page, the closed discussion at WP:DRN#Coca tea, User talk:ChrisGualtieri/Backlog which they created, the discussion at WP:WQA in particular, and this edit at Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation. I don't think we can help this editor. Dougweller (talk) 15:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

And given the history of IPs adding similar material to Coca and Coca tea, we may have to consider protection if this continues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 16:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

See User talk:Paitalona#Regarding this user's edits. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:07, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Unwanted indentation

I'm trying to simple update some of the information on the page, and I deleted what looked like an unnecessary character. Now my alignment is all messed up. How do fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicklols1010 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

In general, you can revert to a previous version, but in this case, it looked like you had added more, so I just added the |} in the appropriate place.

Created article with wrong name

Resolved

I accidentally created an article called George Lee (pilot. It should have been George Lee (pilot). Would some rename it, please? JMcC (talk) 17:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Done Britmax (talk) 17:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

new article

I have a two new articles I would like to put on Wikipedia, but I wanted someone who has more experience with Wikipedia to look it over and provide feedback before I do. I'd appreciate any help Gary.mexico (talk) 17:47, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest using the Articles for creation process, where your article will get reviewed. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Peacock warning and order of operations when writing an article for Wikipedia

Hello, I am creating a biographical article (Rudy Buttignol). Yesterday I added a couple of paragraphs: one was on "Service" into which I places a number of boards and committees; the other on film credits and such. Today I was going to add the citations.

However, late yesterday a helpful editor notified me that he had but a "Peacock" code on the work. He did not specify the problem area(s). So last night I removed the new paragraphs and put them onto a Word document so that I could work there on adding the citations before putting the cited paragraphs back onto the Wikipedia page.

My questions are three: (1) Do contributors complete the text & citations on Word before putting onto Wikipedia? (2) How does the Peacock label get removed? (3) How can I reach the helpful editor (David217) for clarification re the Peacock points? I found his site but couldn't see where to add a message.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sofiabrampton (talk) 17:56, 8 June 2012 (UTC) Sofiabrampton

1. Some folks edit in a text editor before posting to Wikpedia; others work straight in the edit box. Wherever you work, provide the citations in a Wikipedia-legible format, not in Word format. See WP:CITE for some guidelines.

2. We would remove the "peacock" warning if the problem were cured. Most of these awards (for example) are petty, non-notable stuff which seems to be there solely to pad the article and make the subject seem more important. If an award is not itself notable, it is probably unsuitable for the article. Remember: we must maintain a neutral point of view; we are not here to tell the world how useful (or useless) to society the subject is.

3. You communicate with another editor by posting to their talk page; in the case of David217, that would be User talk:David1217. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Football matches live information

Are informations about football matches (goals, yellow/red cards, substitution, and more) added live (i.e. during the match, right when they happen)? 117.5.2.58 (talk) 18:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

If someone chooses to do so. --Jayron32 18:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I often use this site for live scores and streams. Wikipedia can not be live as else there would be too many edit conflicts. If you want live scores then I do not recommend you Wikipedia. Regards.--GoP_T^C_{N 19:36, 8 June 2012 (UTC)}

However, apparently articles about UEFA Euro 2012 are live. 117.5.2.58 (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you mean that you see the {{match in progress}} template in football related articles. Quoted from the link I provided: “Although live updates to unfinished matches are not in keeping with Wikipedia's purpose as an encyclopaedia [per Wikipedia's crystal ball policy], many editors like to provide them, and where this happens, use of this template makes the incomplete nature of the score clear to readers.” 71.146.10.213 (talk) 04:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Talk page contribution

I can't see how to introduce a topic on the talk page of the article BAY STREET. Is it locked in some way? Torontonian1 (talk) 19:08, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Bay Street works OK for me when I preview a dummy edit. Do you see the "edit" tab at the top of the page? Karenjc 19:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Or better yet, the "+" tab? That will give you an opportunity to add a heading to your comments there. Dismas|^(talk) 21:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

The tab says "New section" by default. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets has the option: Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+". PrimeHunter (talk) 23:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Note that all article titles are case-sensitive; so BAY STREET has nothing to do with Bay Street. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:26, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Quick question regarding Peer Reviews

Resolved

I have a quick question. There are two peer reviews for List of Fairy Tail characters going on here, but another peer review has been going on here. Should we merge them into one if possible? Thanks, Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:31, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Already done. 71.146.10.213 (talk) 04:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

June 9

Model release required?

I read the page at WP:Uploading images, which discusses determing copyright/licencing needed to upload an image. If the picture is of a person, is a Model release also required? The image upload page doesn't mention it. I know legal advice is not allowed, but it seems that this falls under the same umbrella as licencing/copyright, so hopefully someone can answer the question. RudolfRed (talk) 03:14, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It would probably be best to ask the copyright specialists at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions; someone there should be able to give you an answer and point you at the policy to support it. Karenjc 17:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I can't search my new article

Hello,

I recently made an article days ago and clicked save changes. For the past days, I tried to type the heading of the article in the search box, but it doesn't appear. Did i miss a process here? Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.177.158.157 (talk) 03:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Without knowing the title of the article, this is your only recent edit at this IP address. If you saved it from another address, its talk page would have received the deletion notice, and you'd have a red link where the article title was. Even if correctly saved, it might take days for the search filter to catch it, although you could still go directly there. Dru of Id (talk) 04:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

It could also have been saved in a namespace not searched by default. We really need the page name, or a user name or IP address to find it. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:03, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Policy about vandalism

I am worried about the user Dilek2 who is distorting and threading misinformation into articles concerning Ottoman history. Tags have existed for many months asking for references etc, which, however, are never provided. See the Prens Sabahattin entry, for instance, claiming that there are diaries lost in World War II that only exist in "photocopies" pointing to Prens Sabahattin's bisexuality. Can I just remove misinformation -- or could perhaps somebody more experienced review Dilek2's articles Proche-O (talk) 04:01, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Actress in the movie Prometheous

The main actress in the movie is actually from Iceland. She was born and raised there. Your info say Sweeden. I just saw her on a talk show and she told the host. The movie was filmed there. Noomi Rapace is her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.2.126.10 (talk) 04:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All the online sources I can find all say she was born in Sweden and then moved to Iceland at a young age, which agrees with the article Noomi Rapace. RudolfRed (talk) 05:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

First time creator...thank you

I just wanted to "thank" those who helped make some corrections on typos, and unnecessary sentences. The page "Cathy Segal-Garcia" is my first try at submitting anything to Wikipedia. Is there a way to send a Thank You note? signed Redlippedlady Redlippedlady (talk) 06:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Have you seen the heart icon that appears at the top of someone's talk page? That is for Wikilove and is the best way to leave a thank you note. Ryan Vesey Review me! 06:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Alternately you could leave a {{Wikithanks}}. :-) benzband (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Creating an article

I hope ive got to the right place - i can't make head or tail of how to navigate this wikipedia - it's very old fashioned - it took me ages just to find out how to get to the spot so I can ask a question! How do I create and article - it keeps sending me in circles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I added a header to your question to separate it from the one above. You've asked another one immediately below, and I have replied there. Karenjc 13:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

hello?

HI there I just asked a question and it didnt show up argh! Please help - why is it so complicated to create an article??“” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenjackman2010 (talk • contribs) 12:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Karenjackman2010. Wikipedia has various criteria to which articles are expected to conform, including verifiability, notability and neutrality, to name but a few. The mechanical process of creating an article is actually pretty straightforward - Wikipedia:Your first article is a good place to find out more - but creating an article that satisfies these criteria to the extent that it will not be tagged for deletion; well, that's more difficult, particularly for a new user. Hundreds of new articles are deleted every day because they fail the criteria, or even violate policy to the extent that they cannot be salvaged. This is a shame, because many were created in good faith and represent a lot of work on the part of the creator, who may then get disillusioned and walk away from the project, which could certainly put his/her efforts to good use. The best way to start learning your way around editing Wikipedia is by improving existing articles. If you do start drafting a new article, the best format is a draft in your userspace, and I see that this is what you have done at User:Karenjackman2010/KindyNews. You seem to be on the right track there, although the draft is a long way from being ready to move into articlespace, but what jumps out at me is that the publisher on KindyNews is one Karen Jackman - is this you? If so, I'm afraid you have a very large conflict of interest and you're not the right person, in Wikipedia terms, to be writing an article on this subject. If KindyNews is notable, then a neutral someone, somewhere, will eventually write an article about it. Alternatively, you can pull together all your information and references and then ask at Wikipedia:Articles for creation for someone else to create the article, although there is usually quite a long wait there, unfortunately.

Do feel free to ask here for more advice - there is plenty of guidance for new users available on Wikipedia. Best wishes. Karenjc 13:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Page sources

Hi I have put too many reliable sources in my page. How can I make sure now that my work is okay and the page will not be deleted. Will you send me a confirmation note?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mona L'abeille (talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

(1) You can never use 'too many' reliable sources :) and (2) I could not find the article in question as the only article you have edited is still standing, but try putting it through articles for creation. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 15:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The article is at Omar al-Muqdad. It contained a massive list of all the articles the subject has written and related lists, each with a source provided. I have stubbed it, removing all this material, which has caused some consternation (see the post at my talk page here).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

New admission

detail process of new admission — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.168.140 (talk) 14:02, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, 117.198.168.140. I have added a header to your question to distinguish it from the others on the page. If you are asking about how to create a new article, please have a look at Wikipedia:Your first article, and see my answer on the same topic two questions above this. Karenjc 14:42, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

restore

is it possible for you to restore a page please i want to restore the page i deleted called foreign relations of the united states — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hollister121 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Already  Done by LuK3 (talk · contribs). -- John of Reading (talk) 16:21, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Exact search

Hi, Is there an advanced directive that will return only exact results in Wikipedia search? I am trying to get all pages that include a publisher such as Publish America or American Biographical Institute. And this search also returns "published American", because the search engine tries to be too helpful.

I am actually using API:Search to get the number of times a publisher is used, but it seems to work the same way and gives inflated counts. Anyway, clarification will be appreciated. History2007 (talk) 16:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The search engine works with boolean operators so you can restrict the search from finding false positives with something like this. A Google search is easier and more exacting I think: <site:en.wikipedia.org "Publish America"> You can also restrict this to the mainspace though I won't go into that here because it doesn't look like you wanted that.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

I will probably try the Google route. The Boolean route does not work in Wikisearch because I do not do the searches by hand, I have a program that generates them, and it can not know which terms to exclude. The results from API:search are easier to parse, that was why I wanted that. But I guess I will have to parse the Google results. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I assume there is no way in Wikisearch to search for PublishAmerica only when WikiProject=Physics. Is there? Or where Category=Physics? Thanks. History2007 (talk) 08:17, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The only way I know that this can be done is where the category has a sufficiently distinct name. For example, Category:Foundational quantum physics‎ can be searched by putting quotes around it (without "category:") together with a term you're looking for, say "laser": [3].--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Anyway, I have now almost figured it out through the program. I am doing this to generate a report of self-publisher usage in pages and the results are somewhat scary... they are all over the place. E.g. Weinberg College of Arts and Sciences states that one of its notable alumni is Louise Evans (‘49) - named 2001 International Scientist of the Year by the American Biographical Institute's 1000 World Leaders of Scientific Influence, while the page on American Biographical Institute states that its awards are "frequently denounced as scams". That is how degradation happens. I will leave you a link to the report when it is done, just FYI. History2007 (talk) 10:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Help getting my band onto Wikipedia (Search results)

I want to get my band onto Wikipedia so that when you google our name it will pop up in search results linked to wikipedia - how do I do this? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fireflyband (talk • contribs) 18:55, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

If your band is notable then you can ask that an article be created at WP:REQ. You could also create the article yourself, but that's not recommended since you have a conflict-of-interest. RudolfRed (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The purpose of Wikipedia is to have articles covering things that reliable places have already talked about. Posting anything - a band, a company, a film, a charity - for the purpose of telling the world about it is promotion, and explicitly forbidden on Wikipedia. That is the reason for the criterion of notability that Rudolf refers to. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

How do I use an image within the text, as a "character"?

I really should know this, but I don't know how to set an image inline with the text. What wiki markup and image size should I use?T3h 1337 b0y 19:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Assuming that you mean something like this clock—C—you would use the same markup and usually a 20px sizing. 71.146.10.213 (talk) 04:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Publishing an article that is meant to be viewed from a link within a major article

Hello,

I have written an article on a minor battle of WWII and intend that article to be accessed from a link in a major article about the campaign of which the minor battle formed a part. How do I achieve this end? When I submit my article, will reviewers assume it is supposed to be a stand-alone piece? It could stand on its own, but it really is meant to shed light on a minor engagement of note in the opening days of the Battle of the Bulge. Is there some way I can post for review and let reviewers know my aim? I don't feel I can go forward with my submission until I have more information to go on. Many thanks...

Steve Wheeler July5ly (talk) 20:08, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

All articles are expected to stand on their own, and meet the relevant requirements of notability, referencing etc. The only other option is to make it a section in an existing article. --ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You can add {{Campaignbox Battle of the Bulge}} to show the context but as Colinfine says, the article should stand on its own. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:20, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

In the article on the larger battle, if there is a section that discusses the minor battle in summary, that the article you submit sheds more light on, you can add to that section {{Main|Name of discrete article}}. This will produce a note in the form:

Main article: Link to other article

--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

removing flags from edited page

If I correct the issues for which a Wikipedia page has been flagged, is there a process I go through to have the flags removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmasiulewicz (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

No. If you believe that the issue has been corrected, you may remove the tag. (Of course, other editors might not agree with you). --ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Movie quotes

I've visited the page before, but it escapes me at this time. What is the guideline that discourages adding movie quotes to articles? Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 21:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Not sure of one specifically for movies, but you can look through WP:MOSQUOTE, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Film, Wikipedia:Quotations (an essay), and WP:COPYOTHERS. If you are referring to having a section in a film article devoted to bulleted quotes from the film, like IMDb and Wikiquote has, I think what keeps those out is a need for reliable sources providing enough prose for the Wikipedia article on a given (non-iconic) quote. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 06:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Finding a (hopefully) published Wiki Page "the National Capitol Radio & Television Museum"

Hi

I created a Wiki page earlier this week. Over four days have passed and I believe the page and account have all been approved. I can not find the page I created though, called "The National Capitol Radio & Television Museum". I am wondering if I mis-categorized the page or did not properly publish the page.

Thanks for any insights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiomuseumbowie (talk • contribs) 21:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

You have entered the text in your user page: I have moved it to a subpage of your user page, so you can find your text at User:Radiomuseumbowie/National Capitol Radio & Television Museum. When the article is ready for release you will need to move itto National Capitol Radio & Television Museum (which currently appears as a red link, because the page does not yet exist. (Note: do not move it to [[Wikipedia:National Capitol Radio & Television Museum]] - this is a common error).

However, do not attempt to move it yet: it is nowhere near ready. The major problem is that there are as far as I can see no references at all to independent reliable sources. Without these, the article does not establish that the museum is notable, and it is likely to get deleted. Less serious, but a major impediment to anybody trying to read it, is that you have attempted to format the article using a completely different system from Wiki-markup. You need to change it to use the proper markup.

Incidentally, there is no concept of "approval", unless you specifically ask for review. Anybody may edit (almost) anything on Wikipedia. I suggest you read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

template section

Hi - I want to add a POV template to a section - not the whole article - please help - regards - Youreallycan 21:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Use {{POV-section}} RudolfRed (talk) 22:35, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Error on Bernie Sanders Page

I noticed an error on your Bernie Sanders page on the right hand side of the page (as I am looking at it). Under his picture you state he is a United States Senator. Further down in the "summary" you show him as a member of the US House of Representative. He can't be both. He is, in fact, a United States Senator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.229.231 (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

The infobox at Bernie Sanders is referring to the person he replaced, Jim Jeffords, who is now in the House. RudolfRed (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Bernie Sanders
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Vermont's At-large district
In office January 3, 1991 – January 3, 2007

I'm not sure which part you refer to but I guess it's the one to the right. Note it says "In office" with a period ending in 2007. It does not claim he is still there. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Citing what I've added.

You are probably asked this a lot, but how do I properly cite what I add or change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chainsfan85 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

See Referencing for Beginners RudolfRed (talk) 22:41, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

June 10

harsh, delayed messages displayed indefinitely

In march I inserted a link that I thought was relevant to the section it was under, and misunderstood the nature of Wikipedia, thinking it would simply be deleted if it was found unuseful. Sorry if that was rude. I received a bunch of messages that didn't show up until some time after I was blocked, and when I read them now I worry that they could be seen. They contain a harsh tone that I would certainly have heeded if I had seen them in real time. Is there a way to have them removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.77.177.189 (talk) 02:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you aren't going to readd the links don't worry about it. If you are worried about the messages, you can blank your user talk page as that information is old. GB fan 02:51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, the messages were intended to inform you that you had broken some of Wikipedia's editing rules. As long as you remember not to repeat these previous mistakes, that's fine! You are free to delete the messages from your talk page (doing so supposes that you have read an acknowledged them). benzband (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

delete account

can you please delate this accound thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musikkille (talk • contribs) 02:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

See WP:RTV. - Purplewowies (talk) (How's my driving?) 04:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Sorry accounts can not be deleted. This account has made edits to the encyclopedia and those edits must be attributed to an account. You can request to vanish. This would entail your account being renamed and links from this account to the new account name would be removed so the two accounts aren't easily connected. GB fan 04:43, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

{{Cite JSTOR}}

Does anybody know why the Cite JSTOR template hasn't done anything on Vincent Price (educator)? Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:11, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I even tried "Jumping the queue". Ryan Vesey Review me! 03:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

See the discussion here. It is not clear from the description which bot is supposed to act on that template. I don't know whether Citation bot handles it or whether there is another bot. User:Citation bot#Function doesn't mention {{Cite jstor}} at all. I suggest to bring this up at WP:BON. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 15:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I left a note there. Ryan Vesey Review me! 17:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Unsure of how to flag an article for improper form

There are two edits to the Bit_(money) page that are not in proper wikipedia form. Unfortunately I do not know the correct way to flag the article and I do not know the appropriate "style violation." Both edits include discussion of the article in the actual article. I am not sure what the author of edit #1 is disagreeing with, nor can I find what was deleted and it is not clear why he author of edit #2 thinks the article is up for deletion.

I hope this is the appropriate place to ask for advice and/or ask for a review. I apologize that I could not be of more help.

Edit #1: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bit_%28money%29&diff=493716850&oldid=493716600

Edit #2: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Bit_%28money%29&diff=493716600&oldid=493533640

DouglasCalvert (talk) 06:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Both the edits above were added by the same user (166.249.131.162), I think they are requesting that section be deleted because they don't think its relevant to the article. I have moved the parts of that section that seem to be discussion of the content to the talk page and maybe someone with more knowledge of the subject will take a look at it and address the IPs concerns. Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Help needed with project banner code

I've posted information on a change needed to the WP:ships banner on the banner talk page. Personally I haven't a clue how to code this change hence the help request. TIA. Brad (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sign

Is there a script or something to remind us to sign our posts on talk pages? Roshan220195 (talk) 08:19, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you want, you can go to 'My preferences' in the uppermost row, 'Editing', and check Advanced option 'Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary'. Dru of Id (talk) 08:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, answered the question I thought I saw. Dru of Id (talk) 08:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You could add {{YesAutosign}} to your userpage or usertalk page, and SineBot will sign for you if you forget. ^Avic_ennasis @ 08:59, 20 Sivan 5772 / 08:59, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You could only edit Wikipedia while in a giant skinner box and hire someone to wear a white lab coat and reward or punish you when you remembered or forgot to sign.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Sackett

Hello!

The article on the Sackett family name, and the associated books by Louis L'Amour incorrectly states that the Sacketts are a fictional family. The books are fiction, though they are based on family journals, so the path of the Sacketts at the very least is verifiable. Further, as we are a real family, I resent that we are labeled as fictional. There have been Sacketts or Sackett anscestors in this country at the very least since the founding of Virginia.

Please rectify this. The Sacketts are not a fictional family, nor are we extinct. We are well over 200 strong in surname alone, much stronger if you number the descendants of this very American, very alive and well Clan.

Thank you,

Rob Sniffin (Paternally descended from the O'Sniffins of Cork County Ireland, Maternally a Sackett, desceneded from the Reeves family) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.18.103 (talk) 09:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The article Sackett is about the fictional family. The article Sackett (surname) discusses the actual surname. ^Avic_ennasis @ 09:47, 20 Sivan 5772 / 09:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I have added a note to the top of Sackett:

For the real surname, see Sackett (surname).

PrimeHunter (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps Sackett should be moved to Sackett family?--ukexpat (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I have donated money to Wikipedia...

...and after my donation, I then created my account. Is there any way I can have my $5 donation show up under my contributions?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skimino78 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

That is not what we mean by "contributions" here! Your contributions to Wikipedia consist of the edits you have made, the files you have uploaded, the articles you have written; not the money you may have donated to the Wikimedia Foundation. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:40, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You can show that you are a donor by placing the code {{User wikipedia/Donor}} or {{User wikipedia/DonorWM}} on your user page User:Skimino78. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Several things

Hi,,My question is about several things.First how do you edited a ,open page,,in my case,coca tea and coca,,,with verifiable laws,referrence numbers to find said laws,and ,new knowledge about this argricultural product,also 100 percent verifiable,,without someone deleting it who never ever took the time to actualy look up said laws,verifiable information,just delete it because they could.Second,if there is a dispute,which there obviously is,why I still dont know,,again no-one but the department of justice for the united states of america can make laws,,,but if there is a dispute,,,how do I get someone to actually look up said laws quoted,to verify this proper information so it is not deleted again,cause no-one has as of yet,except 1 person,something like copenhagen,ie user name.3rd this information is vital to the united states public,as drug testing has literally now a days in the united states is the difference between life and death if someone will succeed in life there.So how do I get this 100 percent lawful,verifiable information on this product listed on your wikipedia site into the article as the ,new verifiable knowledge it is?4th I gotta say,for me,,wikipedia is the most confusing site I have ever enter,,,anyway to make it a little less confusing?Also ,for me,,since it has been soooooo confusing to use,,Is there anyway to actually be more concerned about the verifiable knowledge,then how it get into the article.My point here is I really thought wikipedia was about knowledge for the people by the people,but in this case it appears to be more about how the knowledge gets to the public.I have tried several times to try and stick to the information and knowledge only.However several times it appeared to be more about ,you didn't do y to get to z,,,like I said earlier,wikipedia for me is way to confusing,but also to me this knowldge is vital to the public,thus more important then ,how it get in the article as long as it all is verifiable laws and knowledge.Thank you paita — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paitalona (talk • contribs) 14:45, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

There are already discussions regarding your edits at Wikipedia:Help desk#Definition of censorship and several pages linked there. Starting another discussion here does not seem productive. Let me just point out that articles don't mention everything that is verifiable. Editors of an article choose which verifiable things to include, and below the edit box it says "If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." PrimeHunter (talk) 15:21, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

time difference in roza iftikar

i want to know that if there is time difference between opening of roza on the ground floor and the top floor of the world tallest building burj khalifa. if there is difference how much is it — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.96.100.198 (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand exactly what your question is but I do know that it is not a question about how to use Wikipedia. That is the purpose of this page. You probably need to go to the reference desk. That is the area of Wikipedia that answers questions about things other than how to use Wikipedia. GB fan 16:14, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

If you are thinking of gravitational time dilation then "Time Moves Faster Upstairs, Confirming Einstein's Relativity" says: "The world's tallest building is about 850 meters (half a mile) tall," said Alan Kostelecky, who studies relativity at Indiana University in Bloomington. "If you lived there for a million years, the difference would be a few seconds."

If this is about when muslims consider sunrise to have occurred for the purpose of fasting then I don't know how or whether they precisely define things, but from a tall vantage point you would generally see the Sun earlier. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:35, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

inaccurate link for Tony Osborne on this wiki page Black Gunn (1972)

inaccurate link for Tony Osborne on this wiki page Black Gunn (1972). Tony Osborne is not Anthony "Tony" Osborne[1] (July 13, 1926 – August 27, 2010) was an American professional wrestler who wrestled under the name "Tough" Tony Borne. but a music creator Thanks, Tommy Carl — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.8.94 (talk) 16:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Tommy! i have removed the link. benzband (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

search

why i cant find the page i created in Google search ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumdo_%28illusionist%29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Domdom18 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

The page Mumdo (illusionist) has been deleted. benzband (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

What to do with unused user sandbox page?

I came across this user subpage: User:RLHobbs/sandbox. It looks like the user is a school student whose group was given the task of improving the candy article, with feedback from their professor. The improvements were added to the candy article at the end of March, and other Wikipedia editors have since built upon them. This user subpage hasn't been edited in over two months now, nor has User:RLHobbs edited anything in that time either. What should be done with this page? JIP | Talk 17:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Unused sandboxes don't hurt anything. If you really want to, you could take it to WP:MFD under WP:STALEDRAFT - but it's probably best to just blank the page and move on. ^Avic_ennasis @ 18:12, 20 Sivan 5772 / 18:12, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Normally only User:RLHobbs has the right to have it deleted. However if the page violates the rules regarding userspace content it may be deleted by someone else. The first option would be to post a message on User talk:RLHobbs asking them if they might request deletion. Roger (talk) 18:15, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

How to cite this book

If a book is a translation of another book from another language, which parameters of {{cite book}} should I use for the title and author of the original book? The book in question is this one. Or is it sufficient to list Adamson, Lemmermeyer and Schappacher without mentioning Hilbert? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:07, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You shouldn't mention Lemmermeyer and Schappacher at all unless you're citing something from their introduction. Otherwise, use "Hilbert" and "David" in the "last" and "first" fields, "Trans. by Iain T. Adamson" in the "others" field, and the English title in the "title" field. Deor (talk) 22:06, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Average article size

Out of curious, what is average article size represents? in this link. Thanks!Yeucongbang (talk) 18:13, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

This question was also asked at WP:RD/Humanities#Average_article_size. It's usually better to not post the same question in multiple places. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Is there a problem? Is Wikipedia's policies against this? And I don't agree with you on your statement! I would say it is usually better to post the same question in multiple places, especially when someone can't the answer in the first place!Yeucongbang (talk) 19:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes there is a problem. The Help Desk (this page) is for asking questions about Wikipedia itself. The Reference Desks are for questions about other stuff. Posting the same question in different places is regarded as WP:Forum shopping, which is not allowed. Roger (talk) 19:57, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

You already got the correct answer at WP:RD/Humanities#Average_article_size: It's the average size of the article after edits by that user. They also told you how to test it. Instead of doing that you assumed the answer was wrong and reposted the question here without saying there were already answers elsewhere. That means you are wasting our time by making us investigate your question in the same way others have already done. It should be common sense to not do that. "Ask questions" in the box at top of both this page and the reference desks links to Wikipedia:Questions which starts: "Please choose the most appropriate place to ask your question". We are all volunteers. Perhaps you think it's better for you to get more people to spend their volunteer time examining the same question, but try to also think of others. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Setting up pictures for access on Wikimedia Commons and appropriate licensing

Would appreciate some help over assigning access to media images. I appear not to have set up an image I have just uploaded correctly as it seems not to appear when I try a search for it. I have two images which do appear against the search of 'Badgeworth buttercup' on Wikimedia Commons. The image I have just uploaded is Badgeworth_buttercup_closeup_2012.jpg and it is appearing on the page on which I have coded the link. Perhaps I have not set the access correctly or the licensing correctly? I have cleared my cache in case a local problem but no joy to date. Have a small set of photographs I would like to put up for anyone to use against the normal copyright license protection so do wish to get my routine correct to do this. What have I failed to understand or allow to happen? I notice I seem not to have chosen the same licensing as I did on the first 2 images. Sjeans (talk) 20:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Badgeworth buttercup 2008.jpg, File:Badgeworth buttercup closeup.JPG, File:Badgeworth buttercup closeup 2012.jpg

The indexes used by the "Search" box are updated only every 24 hours or so for efficiency reasons. This has nothing to do with the licenses. Just be patient, and try again this time tomorrow. All three images have the same licenses, as far as I can see, but the two license boxes are displayed the other way round in the latest image. I don't know the reason for that, but I'm sure it makes no difference. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Question about foreign sources

I am translating the article from Russian Wikipedia (Underground rocket). While there's a lot of English sources to claim notability, I'm not sure how to document the Russian sources. When inserting the names of journals, books, etc. and names of the articles into appropriate cite templates, should I leave them in the original language, or should I translate them? -- Wesha (talk) 20:55, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Use the original language in the cite, you can add an explanation in English as a hidden note. Roger (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Not able to use wikitravel on iphone

Hello,

I am unable to view wikitravel pages on my iPhone. When trying to load a page it just continuesly shows it as loading but doesn't go through.

Works fine on my PC

As an example I've been trying to look at Swedens page.

Cheers, Brent — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.176.65.66 (talk) 22:03, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Ballyhannon Castle (aka Castlefergus).

Hi Wikipedia,

I have been working on my first article for Wikipedia, and have been excited at the prospect of its publication. Your penultimate reply to me advises that it has been deleted because it appears to infringe copyright as being a cut and paste from http://www.ballyhannon-castle.com/history.htm

I posted a question to one of your volunteers, and Houn very kindly and swiftly replied to me with how I go about obtaining the permission of the copyright owner to the publication of his work (as is posted on http://www.ballyhannon-castle.com/history.htm). I am now pursuing this as I know the author personally (he is a local historian).

In the meantime I also mentioned that I had spent many days reading your editing and formatting procedures, and posting the article for approval, but I saw that it seems to have been permanently deleted (or at least it is not visible in 'my contributions'). As I really could not afford the same amount of time writing, editing and formatting it again, I asked if I could be emailed the full (html) text of my most recent submission, so that I can either pass it on to Mr. Breen for him to attend to, or I can at least save it on my pc until such time as you have approved its submission.

Houn replied that I can ask the deleting admin (Nyttend) to provide me with the article text (probably wiki-code, not full HTML), and he also advised that 'until the permission has been obtained and confirmed, the text should not be put on Wikipedia, not even in userspace. Huon (talk) 21:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC).'

I would therefore like to ask deleting admin for this, but I can't see any options or links on Wikipedia.org to request this. I'm wondering if this question now suffices as such request, or if not, I would really appreciate if I could get the link to where I can do so.

Many thanks for all your help to date.

CorneliusWilliam (talk) 22:56, 10 June 2012 (UTC)CorneliusWilliam