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    September 11

    Reference style for a whole multi-volume book with different ISBNs

    I want to include, in the "Further reading" section of an article I'm working on, an entry for an eight-volume reference book whose volumes have separate ISBNs. Is there a way to incorporate them into one entry (with Template:Cite book, Template:Cite encyclopedia, or some other format), or do they have to be listed separately? A. Parrot (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    ISBN numbers will automagically format without any markup if you simply type ISBN + the Number, e.g., ISBN 1-886768-06-4 produces ISBN 1-886768-06-4. So at the end of a cite book template you can simply add any number of them outside of the closing curly braces, and label them as you see fit, such as Vol. I: ISBN ____; Vol. II: ISBN___; and so on. You also don't need to use a citation template at all. They are recommended because they provide consistency, freeing us from having to remember the standard ordering of the information or to hand format italics, quotation marks and so on, but they are optional.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk)
    Thanks. A. Parrot (talk) 06:13, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    paraphrasing

    An earlier version of an article I wrote -- abraham Zaleznik- contained some paraphrasing from a copyrighted source/ I eliminated the paraphasing and condensed the bibliogrpahic information but the top of the article still says that the article paraphrases. What do I do now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arielarry (talkcontribs) 00:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If you fixed that problem, you can remove the tag. RudolfRed (talk) 01:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Making new topics.

    Hi, I would like to know how to make a new topic that currently isn't displayed in Wikipedia. Wikipedia currently doesn't feature an article about the book Itch by Simon Mayo.

    Thank you! DSG2806 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.147.162.213 (talk) 08:48, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Given that the book was published only six months ago, is it ripe? But you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation. —Tamfang (talk) 09:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The book is already mentioned briefly in the Simon Mayo article. To decide whether the book is notable enough to merit an article in its own right, you should see whether it fulfils the criteria at WP:BKCRIT. If you decide to write an article, use Tamfang's link or take a look at Wikipedia:Your first article. - Karenjc 09:09, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference removed - why?

    Okay Wiki people, you've really got me stumped on this one. On the Michael Holt page, in the 'Personality' section, there was an already-existing mention of him lacking confidence, which has contributed to his disappointing level of success during his career. I added a reference to this sentence, linking to Holt's very own blog in which he candidly talks about his lack of confidence and how it has impacted on his career. What better, more reliable source material can there be on a subject than something that has come from Holt himself? Yet this reference has been removed - why? Please explain this frustrating, baffling and, quite frankly, ludicrous decision. I was under the impression that Wikipedia was "a free encylopedia" that "anyone can edit". It would appear that is not the case. --Noj3000 (talk) 09:20, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Link for convenience: Michael Holt (snooker player) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Dismas|(talk) 09:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The edit summary from the editor who removed it says that they did so because it's a blog. And I'd say that they are using Wikipedia:SPS#Self-published_sources as their justification. But... The editor doesn't seem to have read the very next section of that policy which states that blogs can be used if it's the subject talking about themselves. So, if it were me, I'd reinstate the source and use WP:ABOUTSELF as my justification. But... I'd remove the "He appears to need confidence to achieve his best results" line since this is original research where someone has read what Holt says about himself and then made a statement using their own judgement or opinion.
    Oh, and yes, anyone can edit it. But not everyone is going to agree on just exactly what should be in an article. Dismas|(talk) 09:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    SO can I re-insert the reference? Or will it just be removed again? How can I insert something and justify it's inclusion so that the editor does not remover it? It's like banging your head against a wall.--Noj3000 (talk) 09:58, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I would be wary of readding it yourself (Dismas has already done it for you anyway) because you have already done so a couple of times - you're basically involved in an edit-war, which can be grounds for a block. Whilst I agree with Dismas' assessment above (self-published sources can be used, with caution, to verify information about themselves), I'd still suggest discussing this with User:Spc 21 either on their talkpage or on the article talkpage if the dispute continues. Yunshui  10:05, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)I was bold and already put it back in here. But yes, you could have done so as well. Generally, people use their edit summary to make a case for their edits. In this case, I spelled out just why I was putting it back in. And why I removed the text that I removed. Sometimes it is a bit like banging your head against a wall but often it's not. If need be, that's what the article's talk page is for, working out what should and should not be included in the article. Dismas|(talk) 10:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for re-inserting the link, and thanks for clearing a few things up. I'm new to editing Wikipedia so am getting to frips with all the various aspects. Certainly, in future, I will use the edit summary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noj3000 (talkcontribs) 10:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Title subcategories

    Resolved

    I used the Move function to change a title from 'Buccaneer 18' to 'Buccaneer (dinghys)' which was successful. However, when using the wiki search function and typing Buccaneer, I do not see my new page title i.e. the only thing that works in the search box is the full title. Can someone please let me know how to change the page name so that it is viewable when Buccaneer is entered in the search box — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talkcontribs) 12:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The "Search" box uses a copy of the main database which is typically updated once a day. If you wait 24 hours it will probably start working. See Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It works for me now. There are many page names starting with "Buccaneer" and some characters are ignored so I don't get Buccaneer (dinghy) among the options displayed below the search box until typing "Buccaneer (d". This may never change. The top of Buccaneer has a link to Buccaneer (disambiguation) where John has manually updated [1] the first link under watercraft to say "Buccaneer (dinghy)" instead of "Buccaneer 18". This means everything now works as it should. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It does not yeat work for me and there must be some way to make it work other than adding '(d ' as a suffix. Indeed, search Laser and you are able to see a subtitle of 'Laser (dinghy)'. I will wait until the 24 hours pass and hopefully that will do the trick. ((((( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talkcontribs) 13:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Special:PrefixIndex/Laser and Special:PrefixIndex/Buccaneer both show too many articles to display all of them below the search box without entering more of the title. I don't know how the few displayed articles are chosen but please don't try to manipulate the system to get "your" article chosen over others. The intended way to find the article is to follow the disambiguation link at top of Buccaneer. Whether the autocomplete feature in the seach box happens to pick one article over another after entering one character more or less should not be a concern and could change at any time. Users with JavaScript disabled in their browsers don't have autocomplete at all, and the feature didn't even exist when I started here. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Aha. I did not think to look at the (disambiguation) subtitle because it did not register in my lexicon for unknown reasons. I do think that there might be a better word than disambiguation but it is not jumping out at the moment. However, please let me know why the original title of 'Buccaneer 18' is not in the disambiguation page since that was the original which i just changed to 'Buccaneer (dinghy)'. ))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agbonner37 (talkcontribs) 14:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    We work fast here at the help desk. As I said above, John has updated [2] the link in the disambiguation page. I tried to do it the same minute but he saved first. I have updated [3] the link in Template:Sailing dinghies and skiffs which is displayed in many articles, so there are currently only two articles left at Special:WhatLinksHere/Buccaneer 18. The English Wikipedia has hundreds of thousands of pages in Category:All article disambiguation pages. If the title indicates it's a disambiguation page then it nearly always ends with "(disambiguation)" so you are unlikely to get this practice changed. We even have the wonderfully named Disambiguation (disambiguation) with some amusing comments at Talk:Disambiguation (disambiguation)#A shining example of what a Wikipedia page should be. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Very amusing and I will consider getting a Websters Unabridged Dictionary in order to expand my vocabulary and usage. In fact, I am now feeling pretty good about my new word and there should be no need to change how wiki does business since I think I can adapt. Agbonner37 (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    And, i have added what i think is a signature to the above but if you can add a big check mark to theses exchanges then I think that can be done if it delineates that we have resolved all my help requests......thanks again Agbonner37 (talk) 16:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Second articles

    I want to start a new article. My old article was accepted and is in Wikipedia. Can I delete it in my sandbox without affecting my first article? How can one work on two articles at once? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.92.192.152 (talk)

    If your article has been moved and is in mainspace, then yes, you can delete your sandbox and reuse it. It may be that your sandbox has been left as a redirect, in which case you'll need to delete the redirect first. It would help if you could log in and post a link to the article and/or sandbox in question - your IP address has only ever edited this page, so we have no idea who you are or which pages you're talking about.
    You can work on multiple articles by creating extra sandboxes; usually with the format User:YourUserName/NameOfArticleTopic. You can create as many of these as you need. Yunshui  13:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Update: The page is "The Recombination Hypothesis". My user name is hardy1956. They must be linked because I removed some of the page in my sandbox and it disappearred from the main article. Can you take out the linkage? Many thanx!!!

    Your sandbox was redirected to The Recombination Hypothesis so you weren't actually editing your sandbox, you were editing The Recombination Hypothesis. I've fixed it for you.[4] --AussieLegend (talk) 14:29, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks to all who replied and helped out!! hardy1956.

    I have seen this happen on more than one occasion. Maybe there should be a reminder somewhere that when moving a user subpage draft to mainspace, it is probably not a good idea to leave behind a cross-namespace redirect?--ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem with that not all AFC reviewers are admins.... .Mdann52 (talk) 16:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I think the suggestion is to remove the redirect code after the move, for example by blanking or changing it to a wikilink. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved

    In determining which instance of a word/phrase should be wikilinked, under what conditions should that *not* be the first link instance of the word/phrase in the article? The only case I can think of is where what is wikilinked is part of the article name itself (for example, don't wikilink Freemason in the phrase 'Guatemalan Freemason Temples' in the article 'Guatemalan Freemason Temples'.) are there any guidelines? (for example, avoid wikilinking words/phrases in image descriptions if they exist elsewhere in the article??)Naraht (talk) 14:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, try reading the information on this page, Wikipedia:MOSLINK, this covers all the aspects of what should and should not be linked, and how to decide on the appropriateness of the link. CaptainScreebo Parley! 18:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Not much specifically to that in the actual article, but the talk page for it seems a much more appropriate place to ask the question.Naraht (talk) 19:03, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you read this bit?

    hello

    hello i would like to ask some one how i get my boyfriend from iraq here he is going to pay for visa and fare to get here i got to invite him how do i do that can u hellp me plz thnks donna louise kelly — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.104.87 (talk) 15:45, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Mdann52 (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It would help if you told us which country you live in, as the details will be different. Rojomoke (talk) 16:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    But whatever country you are in, you would be much better asking the authorities or professional advisers in your country than asking random people on the Internet (which is what you are doing by asking at Wikipedia). --ColinFine (talk) 17:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Gary A. Klein -> Gary Klein

    Dear WIkipedia,

    I am Gary Klein's research assistant, and have been trying to update his page. How do I change the page name from "Gary A. Klein" to "Gary Klein".

    Also, I added 8 inline citations, but the page header still reads:

    "This article includes a list of references, related reading or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations. Please improve this article by introducing more precise citations. (February 2008)"

    I've read all the FAQ's and googled several searches, but I'm still at a loss.

    Thank you in advanced, Jack

    Jackmacro (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I've removed the "sources remain unclear" template, as the article does indeed now have inline citations. Good job!
    The name thing is a bit more tricky. There seem to be several different people called Gary Klein that are notable, each for different things, so "Gary A. Klein" is useful as a way of being sure this is the Gary Klein we are talking about.
    If I Google "Gary Klein" the first result I get is Wikipedia's entry Gary A. Klein, which Google helpfully previews as; "Gary Klein (born February 5, 1944 in New York City, New York, U.S.) is a research psychologist famous for pioneering in the field of naturalistic decision making." The second result is Wikipedia's disambiguation page for the name, which helpfully also lists the songwriter and the bicycle inventor.
    A case could perhaps be made for removing the disambiguation page in order to lead any Wikipedia searcher directly to the better-known Gary Klein, but this would risk leaving people stranded if they were searching for the songwriter or the inventor. I'd welcome input from other Wikipedia editors on whether it would be appropriate in this case. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:37, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd say no. The psychologist is not particular notable over the inventor or the songwriter, so the current situation with the dab page is fine. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:26, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If he is not generally known with his middle initial, an alternative would be to move it to a version of the name with a disambiguation, such as Gary Klein (psychologist). This can be requested at WP:Requested moves. January (talk) 18:38, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    My Chromosomal rearrangement contributions (to Wikiowdia) being used by others for their gain

    2006-12-27

    Supergenes were hypothesized to have evolved from less tightly-linked genes coming together via chromosomal rearrangement.

    To start this topic, “chromosomal rearrangement” to develop as a Wikipedia topic, I have a few staring thoughts to define the definition for “chromosomal rearrangement”.

    “Chromosomal rearrangement” is the change from source not common to normal human evolution.

    Look at the actually physical molecular distance of the chromosome physical object to a high energy beam wavelength closest to the same distance is the key. This is a possible chromosomal rearrangement explication.
    Chained NANO material working molecularly to understand these chromosomal rearrangements. Since the NANO material is very much larger than a chromosome, these NANO devices should be able to generate some type of energy to measure the differences in chromosomal rearrangement.
    Look at pharmacology substance that interacts with environmental, technology devices as they exist in common human.

    LINK: Chromosomal rearrangement

    Tommy Carl Taylor — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.216.108.253 (talk) 17:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi, that article was started in 2004. You can see its complete editing history here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    But there's no edit in its history on that date, so I don't know where you added this material. However, if you had added that material to an article, it would probably have been removed quite quickly, as it reads like original research, which is not allowed in Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk)
    If you published your ideas in Wikipedia, you have little recourse if others are making money from them anyway. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Or do you mean something else, like WikiIdea or some other name with "wiki" in it? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:28, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that possibly the article in question may be Supergene, though again I can't find the edit referred to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:34, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Wierd section order on geographical location

    Hi, randomly came across this article, Indian Harbour Beach, Florida, and the section ordering struck me as a little odd, what with "Public Safety" first. From a brief look at similar articles, it tends to go "History", "Geography", "Demographics" and so on, had a quick root around WP:(thingy), but couldn't find a specific guideline, anyone want to reorder the article's sections into a more Wikipedia-style format, and post the guideline or MOS that lays this out? cheers. CaptainScreebo Parley! 19:14, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    If other articles follow a similar layout, I would just go ahead and edit the section order of this one to match.--ukexpat (talk) 19:17, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, for sure, but i'm just certain that there is a template/guideline for town/city/county/country articles somewhere in the entrails of the Wikiservers! CaptainScreebo Parley! 19:22, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The folks at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography may know.--ukexpat (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Cool, I'll go put the question to them. CaptainScreebo Parley! 19:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:USCITY is what you want. Nyttend (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Brilliant, exactly what I was looking for. Cheers. CaptainScreebo Parley! 21:56, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Deleted revisions not in log

    I cannot find the log for the deleted revisions of User:RAIDENRULES123. What happened here? Ryan Vesey 21:47, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Probably Wikipedia:Oversight GB fan 21:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It can't be oversight because no content was removed, just the revisions. Oversight would never remove a revision of edit history if it didn't also revert the information. Ryan Vesey 22:02, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It was oversight. I'm an admin and cannot see the oversighted revisions. We don't know their content. We can only see the change in total size. The page content after the latest edit is visible but not the diff. The user probably removed some content but added more so the page became bigger. It doesn't require a revert to remove content. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:15, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably the oversight action was performed after Heatherawalls edited it, since you're correct that the latest revision can't be removed. Note that this is not real oversight — it's just a form of WP:REVDEL that only oversighters can perform and un-perform. If it were real oversight, nobody would even be able to see that the revisions once existed. Nyttend (talk) 00:46, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Speculation is fun! --Robert Keiden (talk) 06:34, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, I see what you mean now. It doesn't appear like an appropriate oversight to me. Is there any way to find out who performed the oversight? Can another oversighter check? Ryan Vesey 20:25, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See Wikipedia:Suppression, which is techincally what was performed. The technical oversight tool deletes the revision, while suppression is essentially revision deletion that is logged in Special:Log/oversight (invisible to non-OS) and hides revisions from administrators in addition to non-admins. Reaper Eternal (talk) 20:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The point of oversight is to avoid attention for something. Please stop speculating publicly. Email an oversighter if you have an issue. They can see logs. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:03, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    These aren't the droids we're looking for.--Robert Keiden (talk) 01:05, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    September 12

    My edits are constantly being cancelled

    Hi,

    I've made a small addition to the page on Fluid Intelligence. My edit was related to citing two papers disproving memory training benefits. However, my edits are always being cancelled by user User:Cresix: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Fluid_and_crystallized_intelligence&diff=511934732&oldid=511925512

    He also sockpuppeted me because I edited from work and home PCs.

    I took the references to the papers from another wiki page on N-back. I believe that without these references article on Fluid Intelligence is biased and one-sided.

    My question: is there a wikipedia committee to resolve the conflict and prove User:Cresix wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runig (talkcontribs) 02:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    There are various escalating stages of WP:Dispute resolution. The first is to try to reach consensus with the other involved editor(s). Have you tried to discuss on the talk page of the relevant article?--ukexpat (talk) 04:30, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    My request in Dispute Resolution has been closed because of "too short discussion on the talk page". However, User:Cresix just deletes my edits and refuses to talk. What I'm trying to tell him is that even my edits are far from being perfect, they worth leaving because somebody else better than be may see them and edit in the most appropriate way. This is the idea behind wikipedia, isn't it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Runig (talkcontribs) 23:21, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You should discuss it on Talk:Fluid and crystallized intelligence. Discussing it on the talk page will encourage more editors to offer their opinions on the dispute.--SGCM (talk) 09:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit Conflict

    Why do I keep 'losing' edit conflicts? Do admins have an upper hand on edit conflicts? --Niàobùmíxìn (talk) 00:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Not at all. Have you read WP:EC? Basically the way it works is that whoever saves first "wins", and the second person to save "loses"; it's simply that you're consistently saving after other people. Are you often attempting to edit high-traffic pages? If so, that will increase your rate of edit conflicts, since the greater the frequency with which a page is edited, the greater the chance you'll get into an edit conflict. Nyttend (talk) 00:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    And if you did read WP:EC, did you then turn to Help:Edit conflict? —Tamfang (talk) 07:41, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    See Help:Edit conflict for how it works. The software doesn't favor admins but experienced users may know ways to reduce the risk of edit conflicts on frequently edited pages. Mainly: Make section edits and save quickly after clicking edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, you have a biased view since it's hard to tell when you "win" since you don't get any notification of having won. You notice the conflict because you get stopped. Dismas|(talk) 01:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    title redirect

    Hello: There are wikipedia pages about people who use several names, for example, James Brown aka. John Smith If there is a wikipedia page for James Brown, is it possible that if someone searches for John Smith it will automatically redirect to the article on James Brown?

    Thanks

    Adam2828 (talk) 01:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 01:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Please read WP:Redirect. It all depends on whether we've created redirects for the alternate names, or if several people use the alternate name, if we've set up a disambiguation page for that name. Look at http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Samuel_Clemens&action=edit to see what we do for Mark Twain's real name, for example. Nyttend (talk) 01:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Facebook

    how do i share infomation with facebook??Abuabdulhakimmujahid (talk) 03:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried asking them? [5] This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, not Facebook. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If you'd like to share a Wikipedia article on Facebook, you can copy the URL of the page and paste it into your status like you would with any other web page. Or you can use Sharebox. Dismas|(talk) 03:36, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    New Article

    I am trying to create a new article. I tried the Article Wizard and it gives advice about various aspects, but it does not say how to actually create a new article. Could you please explain how to actually create a new article and a redirect.

    Thanks

    Adam2828 (talk) 04:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)adam2828Adam2828 (talk) 04:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Did you follow all the steps in the wizard? Alternatively, take a look at Your first article and Articles for creation.--ukexpat (talk) 04:28, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Go to a page such as your user talk page (the blue-linked "talk" in your signature), add a link to the page you wish to create, click the link, and you'll be presented with a page where you can create the new article. To add a link to that page, just click the "edit" tab at the top of the screen when you're on your user talk page, and at the very bottom, put the name of the article in double brackets. For example, if you were trying to create an article on something called a "humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa", you'd type [[humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa]], and it would appear as humuhumuhumunukunukunukuapuaa. Nyttend (talk) 04:29, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    As far as redirects: take the name of the article to which you want the redirect to go, put that name (and absolutely nothing else) into the edit window, highlight it, and click the little #R button above the edit window. That will supply the code to make a redirect; it should look like #REDIRECT [[Adam2828's redirect]] when you're done. Again, please don't put any other text on the page; with comparatively few exceptions with which you need not worry yet, putting extra text on a redirect page will prevent it from working properly. Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    More direct than Nyttend's procedure: enter the proposed title in the Search box at the top of any page; either you'll be taken to an existing article or you'll see (among other things) You may create the page "Gratuitous gibberish", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered. Click any red link to create an article. —Tamfang (talk) 19:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Cicadas live in Mobile,Alabama they are all over the big oaks in my yard. Thank You.

    Cicadas live in Mobile,Alabama they are all over the big oaks in my yard.I have been picking up the shells for many of the 75 years I have been here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.243.233.0 (talk) 04:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing that story with us. Do you have a question about using Wikipedia we can help you with? --Jayron32 04:54, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Article Vandalized, but not visible in Edit mode

    The article "Antikythera mechanism" has been vandalized a few times in the past day, and is currently. Under the "Nature" section, the first line was changed. However the problem is when I go to edit mode, the vandalized part is is not there. Furthermore the change was not noted in the revision log as far as I could see. The last edit was by ClueBot NG correcting the previous vandalized part. I cleared my history/cookies, no change, I still can't see it. Unknowntbeast (talk) 05:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Since there was no changes in the edit mode, I simply submitted the changes (which I made none) and it reverted back to non-vandalized. Problem solved, but still odd how it didn't appear in the revision log or in edit mode. Unknowntbeast (talk) 06:22, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You saw a cached version from before ClueBot NG reverted the vandalism. If it doesn't work to bypass your cache then try to purge the page. Normally I would say you can see the time of the displayed revision at the bottom where it says "This page was last modified on [date] at [time]". However, in this case the vandalism and revert was the same minute so the displayed time wouldn't have revealed which version you saw. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    What you did is known as performing a null edit. Since the problem was an old edit in the cache, and since a null edit clears the cache, you did precisely the right thing without realising it :-) Nyttend (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    would the term on or about stand up in a court of law — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.169.85.72 (talk) 07:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This is the Help Desk, which answers questions about using and finding your way around Wikipedia. We have a Reference Desk, but it does not offer legal advice or opinion on specific cases. If this is a general question, there are some resources online about the phrase's meaning in US law that you could look at. This site cites its sources, which you could check. It suggests that the wording "on or about" is used in courts of law in the context of an accusation, when there is any uncertainty about an exact date or location, in order to avoid the accuser being accused of inaccuracy. For example, if it reads "On or about 5 April, the accused did X...", X cannot then refute the accusation on the grounds that s/he actually did X at three minutes before midnight on 4 April. This site suggests that it may not be a recognised phrase in other legal contexts. If you want to discuss the use of the phrase in a specific legal case, the Reference Desk Wikipedia cannot help you and you should consult someone who is qualified to provide such advice. - Karenjc 08:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading Images

    Hi all,

    im having a bit of trouble with my private wiki (personal server) at the moment. im currently trying to get some images to display on one of my articles. i have edited the local settings.php which means i can successfully upload images, but when i try and display them using the file:blah.jpg code the image doesn't display, it just shows up with a broken link icon ><

    it seems to me its a problem with authorization but i cant seem to find where, is it a server problem? or do i have to authorize the use of images somewhere? any help with this would be fantastic as im really stuck.

    Nix Nixxy00 (talk) 08:52, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Added a title Rojomoke (talk) 09:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC) [reply]

    Hi Nixxy00. This is the page to ask questions about one particular wiki, Wikipedia. For a more general question like this one, a place to start might be the Wikipedia's computing and IT reference desk. They may be able to give you more help. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:35, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    If you are using the same MediaWiki software that is used here, you should explore the help pages and forums at the MediaWiki project. -- John of Reading (talk) 10:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    ok thank you both for your advice

    nix Nixxy00 (talk) 14:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to upload images

    I did a recce trek of Mustang in Nepal in 1980 when it was restricted to trekkers. I have scanned my personal hand-written notes/diary and photos that I would like to share with everyone through Wikipedia. I would appreciate directions (eg. image size, etc.) on how I could upload these images. Thank you. Phurba Lama (talk) 12:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Standard image upload advice follows:
    • If you want to upload an image from your computer for use in an article, you must determine the proper license of the image (or whether it is in the public domain). If you know the image is public domain or copyrighted but under a suitable free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons instead of here, so that all projects have access to the image (sign up). If you are unsure of the licensing status, see the file upload wizard for more information. Please also read Wikipedia's image use policy.
    • If you want to add an image that has already been uploaded to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, add [[File:File name.jpg|thumb|Caption text.]] to the area of the article where you want the image to appear – replacing File name.jpg with the actual file name of the image, and Caption text with a short description of the image. See our picture tutorial for more information. I hope this helps.Template:Z40--ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    avoiding automatic redirects

    At the top of a Wikipedia page is an advertisement for "Wiki loves monuments". I'm interested in this contest, but since I am physically located in Ukraine, I am directed to a page in Ukrainian language. I'm american and read English. While I know some russian language, I do not know any Ukrainian language. {Although Ukrainian is official language of Ukraine, very few people know it. Everyone speaks Russian.) Certainly the rules for this contest must be available in english language. [Translation services such as yahoo and google do not provide an understandable translation.]

    Is there some way that I can access the English language version of this page while I am physically located in Ukraine? The page url is http://wlm.org.ua/?pk_campaign=Centralnotice — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.28.240.253 (talk) 12:33, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't know how to avoid those automatic redirects, but after a bit of searching I found the Wiki Loves Monuments home page. From there you can access all the English-language pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 12:39, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Getting random pages by email once a day

    Can I get random wiki pages via email? Is it possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.152.239.219 (talk) 13:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia doesn't offer such a service but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random gives a new random article each time you click it. Is that sufficient? It's the link you get by clicking "Random article" below Wikipedia's logo. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about redirects

    I did some editing on the Cousin page last night. It had been pointed out that Great Uncle, Grand Uncle, Great Aunt, and Grand Aunt, were redirected to the Cousin page. I fixed this by changing the redirects to Uncle and Aunt respectively, just as Great Grandfather/grandmother/grandparent are redirected to the Grandparent page. It was an easy edit, but it made me wonder if there were any other terms redirecting to the page.

    Is there a way to see a list of all terms redirecting to a specific page? Thanks in advance. Shoeless Ho (talk) 15:19, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes. When you're looking at an article, you should see a "What links here" link in the toolbox at the left, and then, near the top of that page, the line "External tools: Show redirects only". For Cousin, the toolbox page is Special:WhatLinksHere/Cousin, and the list of redirects is this list. Apparently there are 117 of them! -- John of Reading (talk) 15:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome, thanks! I redirected a bunch of them to more appropriate pages. Now there are "only" 88 redirects to cousin. The rest I redirected to more appropriate pages (e.g. familial relationships to Family, great granduncle to Uncle, Great grandaunt to Aunt, etc). No wonder the talk page was filled with questions like "so my uncle is my cousin?" :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoeless Ho (talkcontribs) 16:37, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I found a couple of notices relative to my uploads at wiki commons for things that I have included at 'Buccaneer (dinghy)'. Can you help me figure out what needs to be done to these uploads in order to prevent them from being removed due to unanswered copyright questions Agbonner37 (talk) 15:27, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You should probably ask at Commons Help Desk.--ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have done that but no response as yet. Will keep waiting. Agbonner37 (talk) 17:40, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm guessing the files in question are File:Buccaneer Logo 2012.JPG and File:Buccaneerlinedrawing.pdf. I'm not a copyright specialist but there may be a query over whether you actually hold the copyright in the images, which you have uploaded as "own work". If you take a picture of an image created by someone else - such as a drawing or painting, or a logo - and the copyright owner's copyright hasn't expired, then they still own the copyright in the image so you can't license it for reuse in the way Wikipedia requires. The line drawing says on it that you were given it by someone else - the person who owns the copyright on that line drawing will need to license it themselves, personally. Wikipedia does use logos under a fair use rationale, but the image has to comply with certain conditions and be appropriately licensed. The third image on the article - the photo of Buccaneers racing - says it's your own work too. If you took it and you're happy to donate it, there shouldn't be a problem with that one. If you're not getting any luck at the Commons help desk, the nice people at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions might be able to advise further. - Karenjc 19:31, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Language boxs

    Hi there, I am editing my Wikipedia 'userpage' and I want to show other users what languages I can speak. Where can I find those "This user speaks ....." templates? Thanks! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 15:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hej, jeg redigere min Wikipedia 'userpage' og jeg ønsker at vise andre brugere hvilke sprog jeg kan tale. Hvor kan jeg finde dem "Denne bruger taler ....." skabeloner? Tak! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 15:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:BABEL? Mdann52 (talk) 16:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes that's fine, thank you very much! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 16:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Ja det er fint, mange tak! - CverilMineralResources (talk) 16:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    User on English Wikipedia

    I am the owner of the User Kotz in the Hebrew Wikipedia he:משתמש:Kotz. I would like to be also the user Kotz on the English Wikipedia. However if I try "Create an account" I get "username taken". I was told to login to English wikipedia with same username and password I use on Hebrew Wikipedia but this gives me "Wrong password". I don't think there is a user by that name on English Wikipedia. What should I do in order to gain access to the user Kotz in the English Wikipedia? Thanks. 109.67.211.220 (talk) 16:53, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:UNSURP ? Mdann52 (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) The account User:Kotz was created on the English Wikipedia by someone else, but it's never been used. You should be able to usurp the account, although this will take some time to process. For full instructions on how to request this, see WP:USURP. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    First log in at the Hebrew Wikipedia and go to he:Special:MergeAccount to unify your account. Then request the English account at WP:USURP. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:38, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Prostitution in the Faroe Islands

    I am creating/writing an article for Wikipedia on Prostitution in the Faroe Islands, however some of my references are from a PDF file created by the Nordic Council, so can I use the link to the PDF file as a reference? Thanks! --CverilMineralResources (talk) 17:13, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, if the PDF has been "published" - just use the {{Cite web}} template to cite it. What you cannot do is upload an unpublished PDF file to, say, Wikimedia Commons and use it as a reference from there.--ukexpat (talk) 17:44, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Cory Monteith

    Hi, I'm fan of Canadian actor Cory Monteith, and his biography tells his story of rehab after being an alcoholic and drug addict, as well as being a "petty thief". Aren't there categories such as "People who recovered from drug addiction", or "People who recovered from alcoholism", or "People who committed petty crimes and rehabilitated"? and If not, could they be created? Thank you and sorry to bother you. I'm new to Wikipedia. Timothyhere (talk) 19:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    For the "[...] alcoholic and drug addict [...] part, there are Category:People self-identifying as alcoholics and its parent category Category:People self-identifying as substance abusers. I don't see a category for "petty thieves" that weren't part of organized crime, and I don't think one should be created for living people (see WP:BLPCAT). By the way, if you think a category might exist but don't know its name, you can try finding it using Portal:Contents/Categories or Category:Contents. PleaseStand (talk) 21:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I would like to point out to Timothyhere that a category called "People who recovered from alcoholism" would have absolutely no one in it, and never would.    → Michael J    06:54, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    September 13

    Accessing text included in Special:WhatLinksHere

    I always have trouble finding background pages of the interface. The text in special:whatlinkshere that provides "External tools: Show redirects only" is called from where?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:44, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    MediaWiki:Linkshere. Add ?uselang=qqx to the url to see MediaWiki message names. Or enable "Create a toolbox link to show the page with messages from the user interface substituted with their names" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Much obliged. I really like that gadget option.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:13, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Timeline display issues

    I was just editing timelines for some articles; and all of a sudden, it didn't show up. Here's an example to check out: Empire 8. How can I fix that? jlog3000 (talk) 04:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    There was a software upgrade a few hours ago. I've posted at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Release 1.20wmf11 re-deployed. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:20, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I wonder if that can be solved soon. Because I have proposed timelines to edit/create for some articles. jlog3000 (talk) 22:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    This has been fixed. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Wanted to Edit my personal information content on Wikipedia a.s.a.p

    Hello,

    I wanted to edit my personal information content on [[6]]. The updated content should look like:

    'Shriram Iyer' - a multilingual singer and a fireball on stage – he started his journey in 1998 and has not looked back thereafter.

    He has performed in over 2000 shows in India and across the world. He is a very prominent name in the world of live performances today and a specialist in modern concepts, he has a unique ability to blend various genres of music. Whether it is Classical or Bollywood, Sufi or Fusion, he renders all concepts with equal ease by capturing the audience with his mesmerizing voice and energy...

    Apart from his livewire performances, Shriram has done playback singing for IQBAL, UMAR, UDAAN, NO ONE KILLED JESSICA & SHOR IN THE CITY.....

    He has to his credit the success of his album “OM” - a fusion album launched by TIMES MUSIC, which was critically acclaimed the world over and was nominated for the Sangeet awards held at San Francisco.

    Shriram has also composed and sung title tracks for serials namely SHABAASH INDIA for which he has won the RAPA AWARD, TITAN ANTAKSHARI, HERO HONDA SA RE GA MA PA, Lil Champs and ROCK N ROLL FAMILY for ZEE TV and also Zinda dil for Zee NEXT.

    He has performed for corporates like Reliance, HDFC Bank, Kurl On, Dr Reddys, Standard Chartered Bank, ICICI and for government festivals, Common Wealth Games, IPL.....the list goes on.....

    ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    You may even visit my Official Website which shows the proper profile content. http://www.shriramiyer.com/profile.html

    ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    Request you to update it soon.

    Thanks & Warm Regards, Shriram Iyer Mihir4knack (talk) 04:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, but it's way too promotional. I suggest you read WP:COI. - Purplewowies (talk) 04:16, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm afraid that the text you have included above will not be able to be added to the Wikipedia article, because it has a completely inapprorpriate tone for what a Wikipedia article is supposed to be. What you've written is an advertisement. Wikipedia doesn't host advertisements. It hosts encyclopedia articles. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for some more things that Wikipedia doesn't do, the section titled Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion is relevent. --Jayron32 04:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    My Article has disappeared from Google Search?

    Hi

    My article was made "live" a few days ago, and was also showing in Google Search. However it is no longer appearing in Google

    Is there perhaps something I can do to get it back please?

    Thank you kindly — Preceding unsigned comment added by Audblack (talkcontribs) 06:54, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    We have absolutely no control over Google search listings, though it will relate to how many other webpages link to it. However, your article shows up just fine for me on the Google search listing for Cofield Mundi, although it is about the 50th item down the list.--Shantavira|feed me 07:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    You should add categories and make incoming wikilinks from other Wikipedia aricles. This may help in the Google search rankings but you should also do it for our existing readers. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Iam the assistant editor of the newly refurbished chakpak.com which is a South indian cinema based website (as of now).

    Earlier it used to be an authoritative site on the Bollywood and Hindi film related information. But after transition none of that data is present in our current site.

    We have 274 links on wikipedia which link to no pages on our site and give a 404 error. There are only three working links 201,202, and 203.

    Please can you help me remove all the dead links. which are shown in http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:LinkSearch&limit=500&offset=0&target=http%3A%2F%2F*.chakpak.com

    Please help out

    Thanks, deePu, Asst. Editor, Chakpak.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.119.115.242 (talk) 08:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Did the old content of the site move to another site or is it off the Internet? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I imagine all of these should be removed from articles as promotional spam Span (talk) 18:07, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    No correction allowed?

    Could someone please read this page and tell me what they think

    Talk:Tim Wonnacott

    The year of birth in the article is wrong but attempts to correct it are always undone. Do not just read my posts, read all. Why would someone persistantly put up the wrong date? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brakn (talkcontribs) 10:59, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Take a look at WP:BLP, and in particular, Wikipedia:BLP#Misuse_of_primary_sources. I would suggest that, under these guidelines, an "official" birthdate claimed by the article's subject and adhered to consistently should not be replaced in a Wikipedia article by something we have garnered from primary sources and which is not confirmed by anything the subject has ever said or published. - Karenjc 17:21, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Book malfunctioning

    At some point yesterday 9/12/12 the ability to drag and drop pages in the book failed and also the capacity to save specifically as a book — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredwage (talkcontribs) 12:41, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Discussed at bugzilla:39827. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How to establish a Preferred Language in an article

    There is a tug-o-war beginning on the soil article with one editor reverting another's edits of British English or American English. How does one establish a preferred variation of English on the article. Can I just establish that myself or should it be addressed in the talk page and a consensus be established? I am a major contributor to that article and it is largely written in American English though I do occasionally slip into the British spelling. Zedshort (talk) 14:25, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    You hit the nail on the head with the word consensus. Where an article does not have a clear tie to one form of English over another and no consistent usage has been established, consensus is really the only option. See WP:ENGVAR.--ukexpat (talk) 14:40, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Detected possible vandalism

    Before this moment I've been using Wikipedia purely passively, but upon reading this article Maria_(given_name) I found a line that is definitely out of order. I've no idea where to report it and feel uncomfortable just editing it myself. Could anyone lend a hand?

    It concerns this change: http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Maria_%28given_name%29&diff=510267730&oldid=507084352 by an anonymous user with IP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.42.164.168 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdvanes (talkcontribs) 14:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think it's vandalism per WP:VANDALISM but it is unsourced opinion/comment so I have reverted it.--ukexpat (talk) 15:00, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    In the future, feel free to be bold and edit the article yourself. Also, vandalism can be reported to WP:AIV. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 15:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the information and correction. I'll keep it in mind for future reference. Mdvanes (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing specific volumes in a 3-volume work

    Hello,

    In the References section on this page I've entered separately all three volumes of the 2nd ed of Douglas Richardson's Plantagenet Ancestry:

    Richard de Vere, 11th Earl of Oxford (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

    In the citations themselves, I've entered individual volume numbers right before the page numbers, but the template doesn't differentiate between the volumes, and the footnotes thus show only that a particular citation is to Plantagenet Ancestry, but not to a specific volume. Is there a way to do this, or does the template being used on this page not provide for differentiation between volumes in the footnotes ? Thanks.NinaGreen (talk) 16:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The {{Cite book}} template has a |volume= parameter.--ukexpat (talk) 17:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. I have this (within the usual curly brackets etc.) for my third citation in the text on that page:
    Richardson|2011|volume=III|p=410
    But the volume number still doesn't show up in the footnote.NinaGreen (talk) 18:00, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    As far as I can tell {{Harvnb}} does not have a volume parameter. - Purplewowies (talk) 18:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    The volume param seems to be more suited to citing journals in the way that it just bolds whatever you put on it and appends it after the publisher. I usually just explicitly specify the volume with the article title, especially if the individual volumes also have different titles. e.g. from the last article I created:
    {{cite book|author=[[Mary J. Rathbun|Rathbun, Mary J.]]; [[Harriet Richardson|Richardson, Harriet]]; [[Samuel Jackson Holmes|Holmes, Samuel Jackson]]; & [[Leon J. Cole|Cole, Leon J.]]|title =Harriman Alaska Expedition. Volume X: Crustacea|publisher =Smithsonian Institution|location=Washington|series =Harriman Alaska Series|year =1910|pages=171–172; pl. VI|url =http://ia700304.us.archive.org/8/items/alaskaexp10harruoft/alaskaexp10harruoft.pdf}}
    -- OBSIDIANSOUL 18:15, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Many thanks for the helpful information and suggestions. I'm still stuck because I need to cite more than one volume from the second edition of Plantagenet Ancestry for different facts in different parts of the article, and the different volume numbers don't show up in the footnotes. I may have to go back to citing the first edition of Plantagenet Ancestry, which was only a single volume and for the most part contains much of the same information.NinaGreen (talk) 21:33, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


    I suggest you add the volume to the name in the in-text citation. You will need to use a custom ref in the full citation.

    Markup Renders as
    <ref>{{Harvnb|Richardson III|2011}}</ref>
    
    {{reflist}}
    
    {{Cite book |title = Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, ed. Kimball G. Everingham
      |last = Richardson
      |first = Douglas
      |location = Salt Lake City
      |year = 2011
      |edition = 2nd
      |volume = III
      |ref = {{sfnref|Richardson III|2011}}
    }}

    [1]

    Richardson, Douglas (2011). Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Vol. III (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link)

    ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:15, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Use of panorama images

    Is there a guideline about using cross-page panorama images in regard to browser use? I am seeing them often used in city articles such as Dhaka but don't know if/when/how they are properly formatted for viewing by all browsers (mobile phone users etc). Links appreciated. Ta. Span (talk) 18:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    See Wikipedia:Picture_tutorial#Panoramas. Is that what you are looking for? --Jayron32 18:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That's great. Does that mean that using a {{Wide image}} means that all panoramas will be ok to view on all browsers? I'm wondering if there is a px limitation. Thanks Span (talk) 18:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Math Symbols unreadable.

    These generated images are only readable if the background color is white! I use my browser with a custom background color. It is possible to format these images with a custom background color that won't be overriden by my browser settings, can you make this a standard on wikipedia, so this won't be a problem anymore?


    the problem exist with firefox and internet explorer, new and old versions


    2 Links

    1. this is a page with some math symbols, unreadable with custom background color setting in browser.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations

    2. this is a page with the correct formatting that works with custom background color setting. it forces a white background for the image with the symbols.

    http://wikieducator.org/Help:LaTeX_Symbol_Tables — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.183.243.221 (talk) 19:47, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    I can not figure out why the move link is not availing itself to me at Untitled Star Trek sequel.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:17, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    That page is move protected. You can see the protection log entries here. However, because the page (with the protection) was moved from prior titles, you actually have to look at the protection log entry for a prior title to see the form of protection. That probably should be fixed in the interface. Anyway, there is a requested move discussion on the talk page here which is not yet at seven days, i.e., not yet ripe for closure.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:31, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have posted about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Protection log entries are obscured when a page is moved.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:50, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Rita Hayworth

    An IP commented that the "Beginning [of the article] is hard to read because of Wikipedia logo etc. being superimposed over text." The article on my browser seems fine. What might be the reasons that the page is formatting properly for the IP? Thanks Span (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    It also looks fine to me. The common advice for users with such errors not seen by others is to bypass your cache. This often fixes something which had been stored incorrectly in their browser cache. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:41, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok. Thanks. Span (talk) 22:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


    September 14

    "Freak City" entry

    I have entered information about my coining the original phrase and my intellectual property "Freak City" and citing references...Library of Congress Copyright...Dept of Patents and Trademarks...and published "Freak City" catalogs.

    Can you tell me why my entry has been deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.163.95 (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Because it is not encyclopedic content. Wikipedia is not for things made up one day; it is not for publicizing obscure neologisms in an effort to make them popular; and it is not for marketing and promotion. (Also: neither copyrights nor patents nor trademarks are issued to anonymous IP addresses.) --Orange Mike | Talk 00:42, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Nor are they issued for an "original phrase".--ukexpat (talk) 01:44, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


    Talk Page

    Will anyone have the gumption to report User:Niemti to stop erasing my talk on the Talk:Innocence of Muslims I would have the right to talk about the article thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by GoShow (talkcontribs)

    I'm afraid the removals were in line with policy, per Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines, and I quote "Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to archival or removal." The comments that Niemti removed appear to be a general discussion about the content of the film, not about changes to the Wikipedia article. The talk page is there purely to facilitate discussions about the text of the Wikipedia article, not a discussion about the subject of the article itself. I hope this clears this up. It would have been nice had Niemti explained this when the comments were removed, but the removal was appropriate. --Jayron32 04:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Never mind there was a discussion section so there were opinions about the film, but a thanks at least anyway.--GoShow (...............) 04:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The Jekyll island history center

    The Jekyll island history center has housed, for over 27 years a company that does narrated tours of the historic district on Jekyll island, via the authentic transportation of the time, a horse and carriage. This is not listed in your decription and you'd artical is therefor incomplete. The company's name is Three oaks and was named after a ledgandary local oak tree that started as three seedlings and grew into one massive oak tree. Their website is www.threeoakscarriageandtrail.com It is realy unfair to visitors to not have any idea that this service is offered there! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.162.172 (talk) 05:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a vehicle for promotion, or a tourist guide. For this company to be mentioned in the article will require both that the company or their service is notable, i.e. has been written about by independent reliable source, and that a consensus of editors of the article agree that the material belongs in the article. If you want something added about the company, and you can find the necessary independent sources, you may add it to the article; but if there is any risk that the addition might be seen as promotional (and certainly if you are connected with the company), it would be better to begin a discussion about it on the article's talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 10:59, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Born again

    Dear,

    Born again is NOT a protestant term as described, it is term from the Mouth of Yeshua HaMassiah or as you like Jesus Christ Son of God, presenting God in the World.

    See Bible

    Unless someone is born again he cant inherit the Kingdom of God so it is not a protestant term ( wherever you get this from) But a statement from Heaven as MOST important- ex ally it present to repent and receive JESUS CHRIST AS saviour King.

    be born again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.155.155 (talk) 07:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Uh, do you have a question about "how to use and edit Wikipedia"? A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 08:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    VPR discussion closed. What to do next?

    What should I do now regarding this recently closed village pump discussion? Do I have to file a bug at bugzilla or what needs to be done to get this implemented? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 09:18, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    No— Gadgets are installed locally. See Wikipedia:Gadget and make a proposal. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:09, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    A proposal at Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals should link to a script. You could suggest User:PrimeHunter/My subpages.js. I know very little about JavaScript and gadgets but it works for me. If it has problems then somebody will probably point it out. I suggest you install it yourself before the proposal. It would seem a bit odd to suggest something you don't even use. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:20, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I made the proposal here. Thanks PrimeHunter for making this gadget, works fine. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlkctb) 13:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    i need help here in cameroon

    i left cameroon to lagos nigeria to pursue my music carrier.just for me to get there things changed.i could here sounds see spirits in the dark.i can read the bull signs on inscripted on cars,i back like a wolf i speak like a prophet.i get inspired like i'm from heaven.i guess pac's spirit leave in me .i'm confuse right now .the music industry in lagos spotted me via my two friends who we leave together.please they want to kill me so i'm going back to cameroon.my name is <redacted>.25yrs old.all these happened after i prayed and fasted for seven days.as i speak,they strike me with burns all over my face ,hans,knees and down to my leg.i have the prophecy of the end time and how the bitch will be kill via awareness.THE NEW WOLRD ORDER.PLS SEND SOME ONE TO CAMEROON.I WILL BE THERE BY 18 THI MONTH. but presently i'm in calabar border to cameroon.i can sing like him eexactly i believe he's back.please tyr me and see..they shot me in lagos but i was surprise nothing happened.the want to hide the truth i bring.tee-truth jay.my address in cameroon.<redacted>.my mum's mobile <redacted phone number>.let's do it i will be waiting.now i see the positive change.i luv my twin brother pac it is time to take back ........

    Uh, LOL. Unusual requests? - ¡Ouch! (hurt me / more pain) 09:43, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Why not? A boat that can float! (watch me float!) 10:28, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Where to request renaming a "file"?

    File:A_captain_horatio_nornblower_CAPTAIN_HORATIO_HORNBLOWER-11.jpg

    The name is

    1 - misspelled
    2 - redundant
    3 - quite long.

    How are these cases handled on wikipedia?

    Furthermore, if it was shot in 1951, its copyright will expire in 2021. Is there a way to mark it for moving to the Commons in 2021? - ¡Ouch! (hurt me / more pain) 09:29, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi One.Ouch.Zero! If you put the {{Rename media|new name.ext|reason for name change}} template on the image]s description page, it will be put into Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming. (As I'm sure you are aware, "*.ext" means the file's Filename extension.) An admin or a user with the "Wikipedia:File mover" permission will move the file, if appropriate.
    I'm no expert, but I'm fairly sure that there is no may to mark it for a move to Commons so far in the future. Hope this helps! --Shirt58 (talk) 10:03, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Update: I have gone ahead and added "It has been suggested that this media object be renamed to File:Screenshot of HMS Lydia as depicted in the 1951 film Captain Horatio Hornblower RN.jpg or a more suitable name for the following reason: The file name contains misspellings and is not a concise description of the file itself." The suggested file name may still be to long, so I have not moved it myself. --Shirt58 (talk) 10:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I added a section on renaming files to Help:Files. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 11:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    That section seems like a lot for an issue most users never deal with. I would only have added a link like "See Wikipedia:File mover for renaming of files." PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Please discuss at Help talk:Files. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 12:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Petyer Tonkin Article

    Dear Sir

    Thtere has been an article about my work as a best selling international author in Wikipedia for some years but it had suddenly disappeared. I was wondering why ythis is and what I need to do in order to reinstate it.

    Peter Tonkin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.123.172.58 (talk) 12:48, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    The article Peter Tonkin (which currently shows as a red-link, since there is no such article) was deleted by User:Jimfbleak on 30 May, with the comment "A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject". i.e the article as it stood did not contain the references to independent reliable sources which are required to show that a subject passes the notability test. If there are in fact such sources, then there could be a new article written about you; but because of your conflict of interest, you should not be the one to write it. Your best bet, if there are such sources (note that sources connected with you or your publishers are not considered independent, and so cannot be used to establish notability), is to go to WP:Requested Articles and ask for somebody to write an article. If you were to include references to the independent reliable sources in your request, that would make it more likely that somebody would pick up the request. --ColinFine (talk) 13:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Colin that's not quite right. The threshold for surviving a speedy deletion nomination ("does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject") is lower than the notability threshold (significant coverage in reliable sources to demonstrate notability). It is perfectly possible for an article to survive a speedy deletion nomination, but to be deleted subsequently for failing to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 14:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Chandrika Balan

    Dear Sir/Madam


    Aritcle on Chandrika Balan was created sometime back. I wish to know how I can send her picture to be placed on the right hand side box as is shown of other writers. I have her photo. Kindly let me know how I can send it to you or how I can affix it myself.

    I had asked the question before but the reply was not clear to me as the reply was to get license etc. and talking about images. I am making it clear that I want the photo of Chandrika Balan to be placed alongside her article.

    Your help and cooperation is greatly appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panank (talkcontribs) 15:39, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    We MUST address the license issue, before you can upload the photo. To start with:
    • Did you take the photograph yourself?
    • If you did not, do you know the photographer, and are you able to contact them directly?
    thanks, --Robert Keiden (talk) 15:52, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    How the hell do I download a movie?

    This is a way-too complicated website. I just want to download a film, but am having trouble figuring out how to do it. Please advise. Incidently, this should be front and center on the entertainment page, not something you have to dig out. All the links to the movie just lead you in a circle, none of them actually takes you to a "download here" page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushfilm (talkcontribs) 16:06, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    This is a website for an encyclopedia. Which film are you trying to download?--Robert Keiden (talk) 16:14, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Kinsley Power Systems article creation

    Can I please have someone also also review my article for submission? The article is titled" Kinsley Power Systems."

    Thank you so much for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinsleyanalytics (talkcontribs) 16:02, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

    Can someone else please review the article I've been trying to create and publish? I have added the correct citations yet it still gets denied. The link is below.

    Thanks,

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Kinsley_Power_Systems — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinsleyanalytics (talkcontribs) 16:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]