Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Americans for Legal Immigration

Americans for Legal Immigration

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Fails WP:ORG rather plainly. As a PAC, it has supported various causes and occasionally has been mentioned off-handedly in news sources. This does not notability make, not even of the WP:GNG variety. Flash in the pan, obviously also being used as a political WP:SOAPbox. Put this horrible partisan article out of its misery as it is a blemish on Wikipedia. jps (talk) 07:37, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - despite talk page discussion, the primary IP editor has been unable to provide reliable sources or establish notability. I have searched myself and just do not find this group to be notable - I could not find any quality sources to improve the article, which is currently sourced substantially to its own website. Minor4th 17:32, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Too much of the article seems to be devoted to one-off incidents and frighteningly partisan quotes. GAB^Hello! 17:52, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The PAC is only mentioned in a brief passing in reliable sources. Most of the page's content is supported by a primary source. With the IP's activity and COI aside, the page is biased and lacks significance. Meatsgains (talk) 19:19, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This national organization is well established and mentioned in hundreds of news reports and videos. Reliable sources attribute the group as one of the leading voices in the debate about illegal immigration and the Library of Congress archives the group due to the notability of their contributions to legislation and campaigns. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is too filled with biased editors that are hell bent upon attacking this group, censoring information, maligning the group with falsehoods, etc... It is best to Delete this page because otherwise the group will be the constant target of dissenters attempting to use Wikipedia to malign the group. Wikipedia is clearly not a place where any kind of accurate and quality description of this group can be achieved because it is a place where one or two editors can pursue a political agenda. The organization derives no benefit from being on Wikipedia and Wikipedia has proven itself to be incapable of providing a fair and balanced open source platform where the organization's well documented actions that have shaped national discussions on major issues can be displayed. At first the hacktivist editors tried to defame the group, then tried to claim the group was not notable, and when sources citing CBS, PBS, New York Times were put up, some were deleted! Delete this page and leave ALIPAC out of the Wiki hell box full of vipers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.148.22 (talk) 02:35, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This organization might be notable enough but based on RS I have found the article should read quite differently.[1][2][3] It's an obvious hate group and the article should reflect this. ViperFace (talk) 16:55, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- My god. Those sources don't so much speak to notability as shock jock humor. It's possible the group will one day will be as intensely examined and maligned as, say, the Westboro Baptist Church, but right now the CBS local and Huffpost pieces look more like sensationalist shark bait rather than reliable sources. Best to steer clear of that argument as being one that established notability, in my opinion. jps (talk) 19:25, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is part of a smear or delete campaign against a well known, decade old, national organization cited in about every major media publication in America as well as foreign media. Editors Volunteer Marek and Minor4th are calling for deletion (citing a lack of sources) after they deleted several sources added including PBS, Associated Press, Breitbart, and World Net Daily. Volunteer Marek's first edit of the page was an attempt to inject a disparaging comment from an opposition organization into the first sentence of the article as you can see in the edit history of the page. Also, Volunteer Marek initiated this edit war and proceeded to try to delete any positive 3rd party acceptable source materials about this group. Volunteer Marek's Wiki profile shows that he has been warned before about trying to use Wikipedia for a political agenda, most notably in defense of sexual predators on sex offender registries. Of note is the fact that the organization that Volunteer Marek is attacking chronicles and archives information about a large volume of sexual predators in America.

Delete per nominator although I also agree with ViperFace - if the article is to stay it really should read differently. What sources there are - not many - do emphasize the "nativist" (to put it politely) nature of the group. Volunteer Marek 00:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]