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Ulex Europaeus (Gorse)
I'm sort of new to this whole editing wikipedia thing. I left a source in my edit summary but didn't put one in as a in-page note because I simply don't know how. Here's that source again: http://www.seedaholic.com/ulex-europaeus-gorse.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.180.244.219 (talk) 14:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
- It may be a source, but it's not a reliable source. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:59, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Organizational project management
IronGargoyle, you reversed an edit to the page "Organizational project management" and asked for discussion of the matter on your talk page. Indeed the term "Organizational Project Management" should be capitalized as it refers to a formal system of specific and named processes codified as a standard by PMI and ISO. The term does not merely denote project management that is done in organizations, as the uncapitalized "Organizational project management" would suggest. Indeed "Organizational Project Management" (OPM) is a strategy execution framework, and people are certified in this framework and methods for assessing its development within organizations. In other words, it is a proper noun. Please reinstate the edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.160.227.228 (talk • contribs)
- I see your argument, but it's not capitalized in this journal article that discusses it. IronGargoyle (talk) 23:08, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
That journal article you have referenced is a secondary source. The primary source is PMI's Organizational Project Management Maturity Model (OPM3), published by PMI and accredited by the International Standard Organization. Indeed the wiki page clarifies that the term "Organizational Project Management" denotes the PMI standard, where "Organizational Project Management" is capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.160.227.228 (talk • contribs)
- Secondary sources are preferred to primary sources, so it should remain uncapitalized I think. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:58, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Sir, the term was invented in the primary source, and the secondary source you refer to does not even pertain principally to the topic in question. Your secondary source is a journal article about the history of Project Management Organizations (PMO's), which is quite distinct from Organizational Project Management (OPM). It is absurd to suggest that this journal article (which was written by two authors) is definitive for the term when the term was created through a rigorous standards-setting protocol sanctioned by the International Standard Organization (ISO) involving hundreds of people across 35 countries five years prior to the publishing of this other journal article. If you do not appreciate this distinction, one must question your credentials in this topic. It is not appropriate for you to unilaterally overturn the judgement of thousands of experts. Indeed this appears to be an issue of disambiguation. "Organizational project management" is generic, whereas "Organizational Project Management" is a proper noun, and everyone doing work in this field professionally knows this. In fact, this was reinforced by a certification created by the Project Management Institute. Please revert the pages.
"Organizational project management" is the same thing as "Project Management" or "project management." By contrast, "Organizational Project Management" is the systematic combination of project, program, and portfolio management.
—Preceding undated comment added 20:28, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Sir, once again you have deleted a clarification about capitalization, specifically the clarification that "Organizational Project Management" is capitalized because it does not denote project management generically but denotes a framework for executing organizational strategies through project, programs, and portfolios. The reason you gave for doing this is that you say it is a personal opinion. As a matter of fact, this is not a personal opinion because it is literally defined as such in the published standard to which the introductory paragraph for the page refers.
You appear not to understand what we are talking about here. The term "Organizational Project Management" was defined by the leader (John Schlichter) of a standards development effort (OPM3) and approved by hundreds of people. This was done according to ISO protocols that require consensus building and transparency. It was published as an international standard called "OPM3," which is the acronym for "Organizational Project Management Maturity Model." OPM3 is a model for making Organizational Project Management (OPM) capable in organizations. In this standard, three domains are elaborated as the project, program, and portfolio management domains. Each of these domains is further defined by many specific processes, and these processes are integrated as a system. Therefore this is literally NOT simply project management performed in organizations.
Futhermore the term did not exist before the creation of the OPM3 standard. One can think of the OPM3 standard as a "secondary source" insofar as it is a publication and not a person that is the source. However, it is the primary or original source insofar as it is the publication that recorded the creation of the term. In that publication, the term is capitalized. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.160.227.228 (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Socialism
Updated with reason for editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.126.50.3 (talk) 16:41, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Revert on 'St. Leon'
Hi there, I have written the plot summary sections for all but the first of Godwin's novels and am now editing them down on the advice of The Banner (editor). Is it possible we can revert back to my shorter version? I think The Banner is right and these are too long. Many thanks.User:Pineapple271
Edit on page 'Christadelphians'
Hi I'm enquiring about your recent edit on this aforementioned page specifically your revert in the introduction. This material, although sourced, was removed due to it being inappropriate for the introduction of this article as it is discussed later in a more appropriate section. A section in the talk page on this has now been started highlighting the issues of the content you reverted. Would you be able to constructively engage in this discussion on the talk page in this section now that you have republished this material? Many thanks Lintonna (talk) 17:39, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Edit on 4 May 2015
Sorry, I was trying to remove vandalism of a biography of a living person. Sorry for not leaving a summary. I'm not trying to cause any trouble. (Man, I am messing up.)--Magnus Puer (sermo) 22:47, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
- Edit summaries can be helpful. I'm not entirely clear how removing the subject's entire sourced professional record amounts to removing vandalism though. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:51, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
about Karan sigh what i cited was facts as i heard from my grandmother so why remove Karan singh is not the real son he was kidnapped???
Edit on 4 May 2015
I made that edit precisely because IT was not neutral. Did you look at the comment I left along with my change? If you seek neutrality, then you have to welcome the opinion on wiki of EVERY person who disagrees with the film (wouldn't that be tiresome and pointless). I have no problem with people having a political difference with a film, but I do not believe that this one was A. founded in reality, or B. unbiased. The section was not neutral and was representing a trivial disagreement made by politicized parties who do not wish to see ANY slight upon their opinions or people. If you accept that section, you must just as well accept the cries of people who claim The Avengers is anti-Scandinavian, or Independence Day promotes anti-immigration policies (those are stretches to make my point). There has to be a standard of quality and/or level of relevance to make edits to wiki articles. I do not believe the comments from a small group of pro-Israel lobbyists (I am very supportive of Israel, this is not a religious or political thing for me) meets the criteria for objective or relevant/important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.225.111.74 (talk) 02:35, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- The criticism section was sourced to reliable sources. The tone of the article didn't endorse that criticism, it simply stated that the criticism was there. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Thank You
Thank you for making Wikipedia a better place.
Hidudeimawesome (talk) 20:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks! IronGargoyle (talk) 21:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thank you for protecting the Lost Saga Wikipedia page against vandalism.
Many thanks! MontgomeryDalton (talk) 01:12, 7 May 2015 (UTC) |
- Thanks! IronGargoyle (talk) 13:21, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
Edit on 8 May 2015
I'm really sorry I removed the Gatwick-Reno/Tahoe service as it has been scrapped due to problems with the facilities at Reno Airport. No one has ever queried my editing before so I did not realise I had to provide a source when removing something. I'm glad you pointed it out though! I do a lot of editing on airport pages to give up to date passenger statistics (Luton, Manchester, Edinburgh) and add new air routes that have been announced (sorry, bit of self-promo!). I would be more than happy if you could point out mistakes that I might make in the future to make my editing better. Thanks, Rhys
I have added the link in the edit summary but here it is anyway: http://www.rgj.com/story/money/business/2015/05/07/nonstop-flights-reno-london-scrapped/70932738/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by AviationRhys (talk • contribs) 16:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:49, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Hey sorry for vandalizing
I´m just in school and i though it woud be funny PEACE — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.252.240.91 (talk) 16:18, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Time for another block?
Hi. I saw that you just warned User:24.123.85.110 about unconstructive editing and also noticed that after you blocked this editor for 31 hours on 1/30/15, he or she was again blocked on 2/7/15 and, after that block expired, was subsequently warned 4 more times about vandalizing before your most recent warning. Time for another block? Contributor321 (talk) 19:45, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
- Given the gap in time and the type of IP, I suspect it is a different editor. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:50, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Birtukan Mideksa
why would you give me a warning when I am trying to fix the page?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.7.198 (talk) 22:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
- It was my mistake, sorry. I misread what you posted. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:02, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
Argentine War of Independence
Wrongful Edit From Me? (My IP) | |
I did not make any edit from this IP, i rarely log in to Wikipedia because i forget that I have an account and i am so expediently perusing that i just overlook it .... I'm sorry if someone wrongfully updated an article but i assure you it wasn't i. Devilchickx53 (talk) 07:48, 15 May 2015 (UTC) |
idont know how to send messages on here.
Regarding moving my edit.My family was the one who owned the land that Barth stole it from. They were Sephardic Jewish people who received a land grant bY Queen Isabella. We stumbled upon this article today. It is totally incorrect. The Barth brothers were bullies and wanted my Great Great Great Grandfathers land and almost killed him for it. There is no citation on Wikipedia from where the false information that Barth won enough winnings in a poker game to purchase that land, so I am not sure why my edit is being removed. I'm sorry but one person isn't going to win enough winnings in a poker game to buy 2000 acres of land. That isn't even comprehensible.
It is common knowledge that Mormons stole large portions of land during their settling. My family's land was attempted to be stolen using "Adverse posession" In court 10 years prior but the person trying to steal it at that time lost in court.
When we take them to court for this, and you continue to hold this slander on your webpage of how our land was obtained (STOLEN). I will attempt to sue your page as well. You are supporting anti-semitism and stealing of the Jewish people's land/property.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by John Chalekson (talk • contribs) 20:21, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Edit on Lisa del Gicondo
Hi there,IronGargoyle.Sorry,I'm so new to this thing.I would like to discuss the edit you made on the Lisa del Giocondo biography.I apologize I did not leave a source.But I would greatly appreicate you not taking down the section I wrote,please.Thank you.I got information of a YouTube geographical channel which I will leave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irishy Gigs (talk • contribs) 21:17, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
- Please review Wikipedia's guideline of identifying reliable sources. A YouTube geographical channel doesn't sound like a reliable source to me. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Is this vandalism?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.137.244.112 (talk) 02:50, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
NEVERMIND, the image was't vandalism. My computer must have been having problems which caused a vaulted ceiling image to show up instead of correct image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.165.65 (talk) 15:27, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- It actually was vandalism. I fixed it. The problem was at Wikimedia Commons. IronGargoyle (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
help
about the disputed template page u were not wrong i was mad and need to vent. sorry i caused a problem i wont do it again.64.254.77.137 (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Changes to Irreligion in Yemen
Dear, I expect you to correct any grammar mistakes but not to undo changes. Are you well familiar with Quranic verses? I stated clearly that some Muslims refer to Quran about this in particular but you totally neglected pretending Quran didn't mention. I hope to have a good excuse. --Almuhammedi (talk) 10:42, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
sorry my little brother got hold of the computer won't happen again — Preceding unsigned comment added by United kingdom rules (talk • contribs) 17:18, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Studio City Nickname
Hi there. Thank you for the message about the recent post change for Studio City's nickname, Stud City. As a resident of Studio City, I anecdotally know this is a common nickname; however, I can provide the following examples in which this is an unofficial nickname: http://articles.latimes.com/1988-01-05/local/me-33286_1_studio-city-project Deedlethenoble (talk) 22:59, 1 July 2015 (UTC) Deedlethenoble
Your Nepal undo
The change you undid removed duplicated text that appeared leftover from an earlier edit to reorganize the content of the page. It was a verbatim copy of text from earlier in the article. This was described in the history as well through the title "removed duplicated content". Perhaps you should consider more careful evaluation of changes before you revert them. Behavior such as yours discourages new editors from creating accounts and staying involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.227.152 (talk) 22:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia library Newspapers.com renewal
Your free one-year account with Newspapers.com will end on September 5 2015. Newspapers.com has offered to extend existing accounts by another year. If you wish to keep your account until September 5 2016, please add your name to the Account Renewal list here. I'll let Newspapers.com customer support know, and they will extend your subscription. If you don't want to keep your account for another year, you don't have to do anything. Your account will expire unless I hear from you that you want to keep it. All the best, HazelAB (talk) 13:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
DraftKings article
Hi - I created the DraftKings article. There's a persistent vandal who keeps putting in external links to his DraftKings account, which I assume is some sort of affiliate thing where he gets a commission for people who sign up. I sent an email to the support desk at DraftKings which I hope they'll see, in case they can identify the person and ask him (or her) to stop. But I also noticed you flagged the article as being advertorial. Besides in the lede statement where it says they are recognized as one of the leaders of the space, which is true and is taken directly from the title of the NY Times article referenced at the bottom, the only other content I can think that would be considered advertising is the content describing the games. But rather than having me assume what you are referring to, please discuss your specific concerns here or on the talk page and let's see what we can do to get the article up to your standards. Thanks!Timtempleton (talk) 23:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Arda Rivers
Template:Arda Rivers has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 11:48, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
User 64.114.223.59 vandalism
User: 64.114.223.59 has vandalized more pages, including Vespasian today, despite your final warning to him quite a while back. (See: User talk:64.114.223.59) The IP has never made a real constructive edit, and seems to enjoy doing creative vandalism where he vandalizes and fixes his own vandalism over a string of several edits in an attempt to make it more difficult to revert his edits. Can you help?--Tataryn (talk) 20:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Template:Arda Rivers listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Arda Rivers. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Arda Rivers redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Izno (talk) 15:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Geology of Abu Rawash
Hi. I noticed your revert of User:Hsmbadawy's contribution on Abu Rawash as well as his later reinsertion. There is an issue with the geology section of the page, which is a copypaste of this paper. The problem is, according to Hsmbadawy's username and the improper "tag" he put at the end of the section, he is a coauthor of the copypasted paper. I have no idea how to deal with such cases, but it seemed right to me to notify you about that. Khruner (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- It did look like it was lifted from somewhere. Good work tracking down the source. As the editor is a co-author, I doubt said editor has the sole rights to release it. In most cases a solution would be adapt the material and paraphrase with citation, but I'm not sure a conference paper is a sufficiently reliable (or non-primary) source. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think that the user edited the article sometime ago, because it is still a copypaste even without his last change. Look I found it, is the abstract of his 2008 master degree thesis. It is also possible that someone copied that abstract in the article long ago, and the user is simply trying to rivendicate his work. EDIT, drop the last hypothesis, he was already tagging himself in the article in 2008, just checked. Khruner (talk) 22:35, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
Delete page please
I've made a wrong page named ভাংবাড়ীয়া মাধ্যমিক বিদ্যালয় through traslatot.please delete the bangla page from en Wikipedia. Please look over me. মুস্তাফিজুর (talk) 00:46, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- I already deleted it. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
False flagging regarding the Browns
Why exactly did you bother slapping a protection tag on the Cleveland Browns page? They indeed did fire their Coach and GM. 24.106.149.162 (talk) 15:52, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- It was a wave of other vandalism related to the change in leadership. Newsworthy events often attract increases in vandalism. IronGargoyle (talk) 16:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
AMERIGO VESPUCCI
He'd be the founder of the term America. What's wrong with him?--78.145.16.86 (talk) 20:32, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- He only went to South America (i.e., not the USA), and was himself Italian. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:35, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter. But the term comes from him. Probably Columbus can be labelled.--78.145.16.86 (talk) 20:40, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Edit to Notable Alumni [Logan Bohbot] on Greenwich High School
I saw your message about deleting my addition to Greenwich High Schools notable alum, Logan Bohbot. It was not a mistake and was intended to be permanently added. Sorry for the confusion.
- Please see the guideline on lists of people. The addition to Greenwich High School does not have a reference or its own article and so should not be added. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:48, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Simon Danczuk
Breaking story, it is on Twitter and most papers (Guardian) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.51.72.123 (talk • contribs)
- Then add said links to reliable sources along with the addition. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:29, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Had no problems
had no problems people told me u were wrong so I edited saying it right so just be happy.
Sarah Eric Lee (talk) 22:51, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
to dear IronGargoyle
to dear IronGargoyle | |
Dear
I didn't want to make you anger, but I think this pictures are harmful for somebody Ata.tutti (talk) 21:44, 6 January 2016 (UTC) |
A quick question
irongargoyle, what was the reason for you to delete the article I made?(not asking this aggressively) It didn't violate any rules(that I know of) and there were no other articles of that topic.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjac0 (talk • contribs)
- It violated the 11th article criteria for speedy deletion, which authorizes the deletion of made up articles with no indication of importance/significance. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:39, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
blocking for balanced views
I fail to see how putting down facts can be deemed as acts of vandalism. ? You quote details from reliable sources? Are witnesses in a court case not deemed reliable in Wikipedia's opinion? Are witnesses to an event published as fact by newspapers deemed reliable as they form the article written and therefore used by wikipedia. The same goes for TV reports etc. So why are the events by thoses experienced by people such as myself with reliable witnesses not deemed to to be reliable by wikipedia and prevented from being shown.?
I could provide signed statements to support my claim and write a more neutral or balanced view if allowed to do so. clearly someone does not want the truth and facts from being printed/ published. Alleged facts such a those published by wikileaks. Sallybegood (talk) 11:06, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
- I directed you to the appropriate policy, which is a sound basis for editing. I don't have the time or energy to get into a philosophical discussion about why some information is reliable and other information isn't. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
y??
ur | prev) 20:50, 15 January 2016 IronGargoyle (talk | contribs) m . . (21,714 bytes) (-29) . . (Reverted good faith edits by 62.235.178.49 (talk): uncited (HG)) (undo) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.235.178.49 (talk)
- The material was uncited and awkwardly placed in the lead. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:04, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps you can direct me to someone who can be bothered more senior and enthusiastic than you your self are. As I assume an authorised editor of wikipedia I find your attitude to serious questions raised concerning yet you delete my genuine posts? No doubt this will be deleted also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallybegood (talk • contribs) 21:42, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Who are you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.192.181 (talk) 03:50, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
Disruptive Editing
This IP address has continued to edit disruptively User talk:208.123.156.62 it seems to be done on purpose because he or she has received several warnings but still persists. Please, do something about this IP address. Thank you. Adrian Guildford (talk) 05:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hasn't edited since the last warning. Thanks. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:12, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Disruptive edits on Chris Warburton page by 217.44.66.30
I see that you have warned this IP previously so I thought I would bring it to your attention. I have twice reverted unsourced edits on this page by this user today. Chrisw80 (talk) 09:20, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- Already blocked, thanks. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:11, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
Your goodfaith edit revert in "President (card Game)" re alternate name 'Dork'
I've just been playing this game (in the UK). Apparently this name (which I personally dislike!) for the game, originated in Cuba. When investigating the rules for this 'new to me' game, I came across 'President', and the rules match the game I've been playing. So I reckon we were playing President, but by another name. Of course, Wiki does not accept original research, so there is a case, at present, for reverting my edit. Your comments please. --Observer29 (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
- As you say, Wikipedia doesn't accept original research. You've answered your own question. IronGargoyle (talk) 22:19, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
In reply to warning over Korea changes
😂🖕🏽 LeinadD516 (talk) 18:26, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Looks like I missed the last boat to giveafuckstan ⛵️🛳 LeinadD516 (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Stop Changing my Edits
I am making changes for the better of the page. Please stop changing my edits, they contribute just as much as a grammatical fix. Your monopolistic total control complex is annoying. You're the only one stopping my edits so please just let me fix Wiki mistakes and add on needed information when necessary. KE (talk) 20:40, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Ville Valo edits
So apparently the edits i made were false, but they actually werent, im not sure if its already mentioned on the oage so if so i apologize. But what i edited in was true, google and interviews will tell you that aha, sorry though I guess. Gizzle McShizzle (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Editor's Barnstar | |
Sorry bro,
But the edit you are talking about isn't mine. Please recheck that. I've never been to that article. Rishik0078600 (talk) 17:05, 29 January 2016 (UTC) |
mustafa the racistt
its not denial but his racism is well known fact about his "humanist" world views. very racist attitude against armenians well known. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.100.253 (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Victorian Secular Lobby
Is an incorporated association and has been for a number of years. Please do not remove from the list of Secular organisations simply because it doesn't have a Wikipedia entry.
Thank you for your attention. Lev Lafayette (talk) 23:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but it violates Wikipedia's guidelines on lists of companies and external links. IronGargoyle (talk) 00:24, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
Ali Khamenei
Hi, an IP hopping most possibly banned user [1] keeps removing sourced content on Ali Khamenei. I saw that you undid his edit, like some other editors, but he returned again. I undid his vandalism. Keep an eye on the article if you can. Thank you--Lydhia (talk) 03:23, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
James Patterson
Hello,
I appreciate you trying to keep James Patterson's page as authentic and unbiased as possible, however- I work at his publishing house and none of the copy that I am providing to Wikipedia is my personal opinion. It is all fact based on our most recent author statistics, and we are updating this profile to make sure only accurate information about James Patterson is available to the public. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.34.122.70 (talk) 20:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Gustav Knittel
Hi,
I am the author of the complete Gustav Knittel article. It is interesting that you tell me that I will be blocked for deleting my own writings. I had already explained in the talk section of said article why I removed the section.