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July 17

Category:Pages with URL errors

Hi, I've been working through some of the list on Category:Pages with URL errors (correcting, updating, replacing, adding archive-urls etc as necessary) and I spotted a few problem pages, for example Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Featured log/January 2009 and the pages it lists, where, because they are archived it asks for no changes to be made - would it be ok for someone (preferably an experienced user/administrator) to edit out these errors, or, if not, would it be possible to stop these types of pages from appearing in the error list? EdwardUK (talk) 00:49, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Marianne Faithfull

Ref number 1 is not correct for a journal. Please fix if able. Sorry. 139.216.210.155 (talk) 01:41, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Question: More precisely, what do think is wrong? That currently {{cite web}} is used? Sam Sailor ^Talk! 01:51, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk page as forum

I see comments removed from article talk pages when they are just expressions that the user likes or dislikes, or just wants to discuss, the subject of the article, on the grounds that a talk page is not a forum. But what if they start by saying something like "Hooray for the brave inhabitants of the glorious republic of Foo in defeating the wretched traitors," then follow that with a reasonable comment about editing the article. I hesitate to remove part of their post and leave the rest. On the other hand it seems like a way to leave a propagandistic post on a talk page. Does the baby go out with the bathwater? Relevant policies or guidelines? Edison (talk) 02:42, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

If anything, it means you should watch that user's edits to make sure they're not POV-pushers. Turkic countries are one of Wikipedia's problem areas due to POV pushers; it's so bad that anything relating to Armenian-Azeri relations is under ARBCOM sanctions.142.105.159.60 (talk) 03:10, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

In one such instance another editor redacted the propaganda sentence, left a comment he had done so, and left the appropriate comments about improving the page. Is such partial redaction permissible? It seems like a good solution. (Redact the bathwater, leave a comment you have done so, and leave the baby). How would you make it clear what had been done and who had done it? This is a general problem, and not specific to one article or one trouble spot.Edison (talk) 03:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with partial refactoring of off-topic forum-like posts. You can use {{rf}} to denote that you have done so. --Majora (talk) 03:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Repinging. First one didn't work @Edison: --Majora (talk) 03:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

"Refactoring" is one of those neologisms which some Wikipedians love, but which are unknown to the general public. It seems to date back only to 1991, and then in a different usage of changing computer code. The template cited of refactoring discusses moving text from one page to another. In the cases I'm discussing we should be removing entirely from view the inappropriate text. I feel like one should be hesitant to edit another's talk page post, since it might make him look inarticulate or confused, if you removed the inappropriate preamble but left the permissible conclusion, but I hate to see someone allowed to keep inappropriate text by following it in the same post with appropriate text. It is convenient if they allow a clean excision by having some propagandistic statement followed by an only loosely related suggestion for editing. If the parts of the post were inextricably related, I would argue for complete removal, followed by inviting the poster to submit an appropriate comment without the propaganda.Edison (talk) 04:03, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Huh. So it is. My mistake. Depending on how bad it is you could always use {{inappropriate comment}}. That one seems to be more along the lines of what you want. And it provides different options depending on what you are looking for and how bad it is. Frankly, I don't see the problem with you just removing it without mention. Off-topic posts are distracting to the talk page process of improving the article. --Majora (talk) 04:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

• Edison, Talk page guidelines allows such redacting, per "It is still common to simply delete gibberish, comments or discussion about the article subject (as opposed to its treatment in the article), test edits, and harmful or prohibited material as described above (in the guidelines)." You can remove the comments that seem absolutely irrelevant (but err on the side of caution, as recommended by the guidelines). Leave a redacted note appropriately. And undo your delete if any established editor objects or consensus deems otherwise on the page. Lourdes 04:32, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

SOMEONE HAS DELETED CONTENT OF MY HISTORY - TOYIN ADEKALE

Hope you can help me. If I could edit my profile adequately I would, but it seems that someone has deleted extensive history on my Wikipedia page. I was wondering how to get it retrieved and how to add pictures or content. The information that was deleted is not inaccurate, so not sure who or why it was deleted. Can you help? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talithavoices7 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Firstly, please understand there are no "profiles" on Wikipedia - we have articles, including one on Toyin Adekale, but that is NOT "your" page it is Wikipedia's page about you.
As you have a conflict of interest you should not be editing the page at all, but you can make suggestions, citing reliable references, on the talk page:- Talk:Toyin Adekale
The reasons for the deletions are stated in the page history:- The photos were removed because they were copyright violations, 2694 bytes were removed by one of our most experienced admins who stated "cleanups and removing unreferenced sections. If one has performed before Queens and Presidents, it needs refs" another 1059 bytes were removed by another experienced editor who stated "Rm unsourced, cruft, crappy sourced" Looking at what was removed, all of these look reasonable removals, all of the removed material was totally unsourced and much of it was promotional, so there would be no point in reinstating it.
Additions to every article should be sourced to reliable, independent, sources, but this is particularly true of biographies of living persons. - Arjayay (talk) 08:14, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

It sounds kind of like you're saying you are the subject of the article. If so, the rules are that you really shouldn't be editing the article at all. Read Wikipedia:Autobiography. Sorry, but it's often the case that people have a hard time being impartial and following the policies and guidelines when writing about themselves. Note also that Wikipedia doesn't provide "vanity hosting", or whatever you might call it, for people to put up whatever they want. If you want a webpage that you control, start your own website or create a page on something like Facebook. And an obvious issue is that without some method of authentication we have no way of knowing you're who you say you are. Anyone can call themselves anything online. Again, see the page I linked for more advice on this, and if you have more questions you're welcome to ask them here or in another appropriate forum. --71.110.8.102 (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

What do I do about a well meaning person who keeps reverting an article back to incorrect?

I updated an article, with references, and a person keeps reverting it because they prefer the old wording. But the old wording is factually incorrect. They clearly aren't meaning harm. But their profile suggests this is a page they shouldn't even care about anyway. Is there someone I can refer this too sothepage can be updated properly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.61.93.104 (talk) 11:53, 17 July 2016

Hello, Ambic (I'm guessing that's who you are, even though you didn't log in). You and GorgeCustersSabre are engaging in an Edit war, and both of you need to stop, and discuss it on the article's talk page Talk:Massey University. I see that you posted about the closing of the campus on the talk page on 13 July, before this started: but once Sabre reverted your change, you should have engaged with him on the talk page, rather than reapplying your change. If Sabre won't engage, or you can't reach agreement, then you should follow the steps in Dispute resolution, but attempting a discussion is the essential first step. I have pinged both of you here, so you should both see this comment. --ColinFine (talk) 16:27, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I was trying to avoid an edit war but did not know what I needed to do. I was trying to avoid naming people on this page too.

Oversighting?

I had been trying to bring Draft:Mir Abdolrez Daryabeigi into an acceptable state (with limited success, I am now hoping to forget about it and leave further work to others). On looking today at its edit history, I see that nine consecutive edits by me followed by five by another editor are shown in struck-through grey. I associate this style with oversighting. But I see no evidence that an admin has become involved, I don't recall any content that could be considered defamatory, and I haven't received any kind of warning. What is the explanation for the struck-through edits? Maproom (talk) 11:16, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Click "View logs for this page" in the page history to see [1]. Based on a Google search, you copied from [2]. Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Mir Abdolrez Daryabeigi links a report at User:EranBot/Copyright/rc/48 which says [3]. That's another url to the same content at that site. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:26, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. It all makes sense now. Maproom (talk) 14:54, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Table

How can I export a wiki table to excel and vise versa?(Of course I mean an easy way)--Freshman404^Talk 12:03, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

@Freshman404: You can try one of the tools listed here. Cheers ✦ _hugarheimur 14:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Copying to Excel is easy - just copy, then right-click as paste special. Copying from Excel to Wikipedia used to be very hard, but now easy, as long as you use VE.--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:38, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you @Torana:--Freshman404^Talk 08:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Old discussion on AFD sort list

WP:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Arizona has a entry for a closed PROD from 2013. Should I just remove it manually, or may there be other things elsewhere that also need to be cleaned-up? Mb66w 14:49, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Cite template formatting

I remember, that there was a userscript for converting cite templates from block to inline version and vice-versa. Of course, I don't remember title of it or where I did see it. Any help? --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 14:49, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Subgroup in templates

I wish to make a subgroup within groups in a template; .. | group5 = Main group

 subgroup5 Subgroup 

| list5 =

• A
• B

How is that done? Carystus (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

@Carystus: See Template:Navbox#Child navboxes and Template:Navbox subgroup. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Marianne Faithfull

Please add this link Austrian nobility in the category section at the end of this article. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 23:41, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

 Done - But you are an experienced editor and could have done that. Did you really need our help? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:47, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

July 18

Reference problem

Resolved

I can't figure out what's going on in Hastings Highlands. The second reference is in the demographics template somewhere (and is causing an error message?), but I can't find it. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:20, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

That's a tricky one -- I changed ref name. Fixed it, but not really sure why, however, one source is 2011 Census and the other is 2011 Census of Population -- presumably same, with different name. So what I did is not really a "fix", but more of a work-around. --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:B5B0:E568:AE41:A487 (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

The other one is automatically generated by the Template:Canada census in Demographics section. Not sure, however, why it needs to have a name. --CiaPan (talk) 06:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Per Template:Canada census, "This template creates named references cp2011, cp2006, and optionally cp2001 for use in articles. Each is areference to the Statistics Canada Community Profile search page for the corresponding census year." I think the template has given the name to these automatically transcluded references because giving a name looks more structured. Somewhere, someone gave the same name to an in-article reference, thus creating a conflict. It's resolved now. Lourdes 06:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

"Resolved now" is my work-around. I also tried removing the ref definition from the article, assuming it would transclude from the template, but I got an "undefined reference" error. Currently, there is no nasty red error message, but there is a redundant reflist reference. -2606:A000:4C0C:E200:B5B0:E568:AE41:A487 (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Are you sure...? I've removed the reference named "cp2011(a)" and replace the "cp2011(a)" name with "cp2011" in both places, and it seems to work in preview. However, the link from the Census template is much more general, while that from infobox leads specifically to Hastings Highlands' data – and I think this deserves being preserved. --CiaPan (talk) 07:21, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

You're right. Did a test fix (here) with no error message -- don't know what I did differently before. --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:B5B0:E568:AE41:A487 (talk) 07:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:33, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Why does this sorting of calendar dates work correctly, without using the "dts" sorting template?

Please take a look at this article: List of people executed in Georgia (U.S. state). There is a column entitled "Date of Execution". When you sort that column, it actually sorts correctly (by date). How does the computer "know" that it is sorting calendar dates? Why doesn't the sort go, as would be expected: alphabetically list all of the April dates; then the August dates; then the December dates; then the February dates; and so forth? And, if this works on its own, what's the point of using that Template:Dts ({{dts}}) template/command in sortable Tables and Charts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 04:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure which part of it is doing the sorting but the template knows that January = 1, February = 2, and so on. Dismas|^(talk) 04:28, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Help:Sorting#Dates clarifies that the usage of formats like January 12, 2016, automatically tells the table that it is a date cell. Lourdes 05:53, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

And, if this works on its own, what's the point of using that Template:Dts ({{dts}}) template/command in sortable Tables and Charts? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:27, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

When you use numerical dates instead of the specific format given above, it is sensible to use dts. Lourdes 06:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, all. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

@Joseph A. Spadaro: You have changed the section title and now all the relevant edit summaries (including yours!), visible in the edit history and in versions' diffs, which indicate the section being modified (→‎Why does this sorting work correctly?) point to nowhere... --CiaPan (talk) 13:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I have had that discussion with Editor Joseph A. Spadaro before. Perhaps you will have better luck than I.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:39, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah, I never really understood the first discussion we had a few weeks back on this issue. And I don't even "get" what the issue is? Sorry. Please explain. And please don't use a lot of Wikipedia letters and symbols and verbiage, because that won't help me understand any better. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:05, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Here's the deal. When I post a question, I give it a quick "off the cuff" title (heading). When I am done with my question, let's say a week or so later, I change the title to make it easier to find in the archives at some later point, if needed. I change the title to be a better reflection of the content of the discussion (for archiving purposes). So, that's the origin of this "problem" or "issue". What do you suggest? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 14:05, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

If you must change the section heading, then please add an anchor so that previous links will still work, see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Section links. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:11, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

No idea what an "anchor" is. And -- as typical -- the Wikipedia pages that "explain" things (i.e., "how to") are notoriously difficult/impossible to understand. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:40, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

No. No deal. Please do not change the sections' titles after the discussion. Devise appropriate title before you ask a question instead, so that it doesn't need any change later. It often happens to me that I drop into some discussions at Reference Desk or Help Desk and add some comments. Sometimes, if I find them later in the history of my edits, like '‎wrong information on your web' here, I want to know how the talk went on after (I also store links to interesting talks somewhere outside Wikipedia, sometimes, for the same purpose.) Then I can go to the Desk and search the archives with that exact phrase, I can find the archived section and jump to it: [4]. However, it's no longer possible if you change the section title – it won't match my searching query anymore.
It also happens quite often that users post a reference to a specific section on other users' talk pages when inviting them to participate in a specific discussion. A change to a section title invalidates such links. --CiaPan (talk) 15:08, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, that procedure works for you and your needs, but not me and my needs. So, your "suggestions" are not helpful. (1) No deal. (Really?) and (2) Devise the appropriate heading before, not after. Those are impractical and unrealistic. Sorry. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:38, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Multiple editors have asked that you not modify headers yet you dismiss their requests with the flippant statement that writing a carefully considered topic header when you first post the question and leaving it alone as a courtesy to other editors is impractical and unrealistic. How is it impractical? How is it unreasonable? How is it better for the encyclopedia that you dismiss the requests of other editors because you don't like what they are asking of you?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:53, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Lose the attitude, man. I will give you an example. Let's say that my question is, for example: "Who is the actor that played Billy Jones on General Hospital? When the discussion is done, I will modify my heading to say something like "The actor who played Billy Jones on General Hospital is Brad Pitt." And I do that because I am more concerned with someone (me or someone else) being able to access it more easily in the archives (i.e., provide good key words), more so than I am worried about an "anchor" (which I don't even know what that is). And I highly doubt that my random questions here and there are that significant that they "throw people off" in their editing functions. So, answer my question. How am I supposed to edit/modify the header before the discussion, in a way that is only available after the discussion? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:47, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

How am I supposed to edit/modify the header before the discussion, in a way that is only available after the discussion? You are not supposed to edit/modify the header because editors here have asked that you not do that. There are common courtesies that we all obey so that society runs smoothly. Here, one of those courtesies is to leave headers alone unless there is a very good reason to change them, for example, when a header conflicts with another header or when a header is defamatory.

I have answered your question, do me the courtesy of answering the questions that I asked you in my last post. How is writing a carefully considered topic header when you first post a question impractical and unrealistic? How is it better for the encyclopedia that you dismiss the requests of other editors because you don't like what they are asking of you?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

No. I agree with Trappist and CiaPan. Modifying a header after discussion has taken place is confusing. It isn't necessary to get the header to match the discussion after the fact. Just make the header state the question simply and concisely, and leave it alone when it is answered. Please. I agree that changing the heading in a talk page after there is been discussion is confusing and rude. Please. They are trying to make a reasonable request. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:55, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

This is not a one-way street. No one is addressing my issues and concerns. So, if that doesn't happen, I don't see that I will be changing my MO any time soon. I don't go for the "do it our way, because we said so" approach. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 03:59, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

You have user space where you can put anything that you like. You could create a page User:Joseph A. Spadaro/Help desk questions. In that page you can write links to questions that you've asked here (taking your hypothetical from above):

[[Wikipedia:Help_desk#Who is the actor that played Billy Jones on General Hospital?|The actor who played Billy Jones on ''General Hospital'' is Brad Pitt]]

The actor who played Billy Jones on General Hospital is Brad Pitt

Doing this you have a record of the questions that are important to you. And when the question is archived, you search for it once, then update the link on your Help desk questions page, and you won't have to search for it again.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:27, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

That would only help me search the archives. That would not help anyone else. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

You wrote: No one is addressing my issues and concerns. Because you wrote that, I made a suggestion that addresses your concerns and also addresses the concerns of other editors here.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 10:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You are not following me. I am concerned about "my" issue. My issue is the ability of others (all readers, not just me) to find things in an archive. I don't see why this is such a big deal. I think that archiving is important, as is the ability to find something in an archive. When someone posts a question and they label it "Question", how on earth is that in any way helpful? It's not. And, in fact, that title should be changed by someone (even if not the original poster). The "anchor" issue is only a temporary and minor annoyance and inconvenience. The archival issue -- and the ability for all of us to find material and get good search results -- is a permanent issue. So, I do not think I am being unreasonable. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:46, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

If you don't know what an anchor is you can follow the link that I provided, to WP:anchor. I also provided a link to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Section links. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:43, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

What I said was that I care more about the archive issue than I do about this anchor issue. Did I not say that? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 06:08, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I have added an anchor in this case. Wikipedia is a co-operative project, and you need to be aware that if you repeat this behaviour in future without preserving the links, despite the process having been explained to you, your change is liable to be reverted as a deliberately disruptive edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:38, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

(ec) No. Not at all. What you say — and show — all the time is you care more about yourself then about the project and other people. Do as you wish. Surely, you are free to do things your way. But your way is simply a disregard to other editors. --CiaPan (talk) 06:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Really? I have been here for 10 years and made 10,000 edits. And all the time my actions show that I care more about myself than the project? (Your exact words.) Yeah, that's a valid statement. Talk about myopia. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

(ec) That example is false. If anybody ever needs to find out "who was the actor that played Billy Jones" they will surely never seek the phrase "The actor who played Billy Jones on General Hospital is Brad Pitt" — however, they will most likely seek for "who was the actor that played Billy Jones" in hope that someone already asked that question, in this or similar form. That's how it works on all Q&A sites, all forums etc.: answers are published and kept together with questions. If you remove a question, it would be much harder to find the answer. PLEASE, don't modify questions after you got an answer. --CiaPan (talk) 06:49, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Don't be so literal and pedantic. That was one example of the general nature of the problem/issue at hand. And, to me, it's a valid issue. Regardless of how you/others feel. Do you want me to provide 632 other examples? Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I don't need to see 632 examples, but I would like to see one where there is a valid reason to do what you are doing. This thread and the one you gave aren't good examples because the headers would have been better at the beginning. -- GB fan 17:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I just gave one above. See my comments above. Some editors entitle their question as "Question" or some other such vague nonsense. If we keep it as is, yes, that's helpful from this (silly) "anchor" perspective. But not helpful at all from an archive perspective. Quite frankly, the permanent archives are much more important to the encyclopedia than some temporary "anchors". It's an issue that needs to be addressed. And I will not be the whipping boy here for raising a valid issue. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I do not see any examples above of when it is a good idea to change the header after the fact. Can you repeat your example here so I know what you are talking about. At this point it seems to me that you alone think this is a valid issue that needs to be fixed and all the other editors that commented believe you shouldn't be doing this. So it seems to me that you need to be the one trying to convince people not the other way around. -- GB fan 20:03, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

So, you think a header like "I have a question" is good? And valid? Particularly for archive purposes? That serves the encyclopedia well? If you believe that, then there is nothing I can say to you. Thanks, though. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

And, if so, then we have a great solution. I will just label all my questions as "Question". That works! (Apparently, for you people.) Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 21:20, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Upload a new version of this file...

I've just fixed a couple of images on Manic Miner, and noted that one of them was still a GIF file. Is there any easy way of using the "upload new version" and getting the wizard to acknowledge the fact that the new version is no longer a GIF, but a PNG file? There seems to be no way of modifying the destination filename, so you're restricted to the original filetype. Chaheel Riens (talk) 06:36, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

"upload new version" really means "upload new version of whatever is stored at this filename and extension". So if you want to upload a PNG, you'll have to upload it as a new file. Then you'll need to change the links from articles that you want to use it. Maproom (talk) 08:42, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Wrong information provided on Television series details of Neha Pendse

Hello,

This is to bring to your notice that we have observed there is a serious mistake in wiki page of Neha Pendse. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neha_Pendse). The actress herself was shocked to see that she is listed to be a role of a teleserial on Sab TV called Gupp Chupp. This information is false. The actress is currently seen as a lead role in 'May I Come In Madam'. This information is correct.

Am really surprised that wiki being so accurate has brought up this wrong information. I have edited and deleted the serial Gupp Chupp mentioned on her page. Kindly approve the changes.

Hope to hear from you soon. Also please remove Neha Pende's name on Gupp Chupp wiki page.

I request to get these changes on both the pages ASAP.

Thanks, Janet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janetdianad (talk • contribs) 11:47, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Requesting editor has already made the changes to both Neha Pendse and Gupp Chupp herself - Arjayay (talk) 12:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Wierd edits by User:Dr.Endocrinolog

Hi, the User:Dr.Endocrinolog has been adding the same phrase to several wikipedia projects regarding the 2016 Nice attack. Specifically he has been writing in the talk page saying that:
"in blood of the offender was clearly excessive [cortisol.]"
translated (I suppose automatically) in several languages (see here: [5]), and seems to have started on the german wikipedia. Now I'm bringing this to your attention because, although it seems fairly harmless, it's kinda weird that he/she would go to such lengths to post this frase on all these pages, so I wanted to see if his contributions should be removed. Thanks, --Amendola90 (talk) 15:32, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

@Amendola90: thank you for reporting this :) it may be worth making a new post at the incident section of the administrator's noticeboard -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 15:36, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

SALLY RIDE IS FIRST FEMALE ASTRONAUT AND NOT FIRST FEMALE OR WOMAN

As the first female to pass testing at Cape Canaveral, Florida in 1979 and 1980 to board Space Shuttle Maiden Voyage on April 12, 1981, Sally Ride was not around and still in School. Most women were not interested in space or aerospace due to impact issues for former space models. On April 12, 1981, Captain McCool, Commander Jim Morris Pettit, and I, Mary Clyde Bridgers, went into space on the Space Shuttle. Captain McCool was an Astronaut. I was not an Astronaut until 1983 and flights later. My background was added on Sally Ride's because of errors made with media organizations like Wikimedia.

Captain McCool died on Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy and we miss him. Commander Jim Morris Pettit, a Captain of the United States Navy SEAL Team, died in combat. I, Mary Clyde Bridgers worked in intelligence and counter-intelligence and recently received an award from the United States Senate in 2013.

Please note the difference. Sally Ride was still in school and was not interested and was asked to come join the NASA Team by me, Neil Armstrong and others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.85.192.200 (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Bill McCool was 19 years old in 1981, and certainly wasn't going into space at that age (he only joined NASA in 1996). The crew of the mission on April 12, 1981 were John Young and Bob Crippen—since this was probably the most heavily documented spaceflight since Apollo 11, I'm sure the world's media would have noticed if there were anyone else aboard. ‑ Iridescent 17:35, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Your writing is a little hard to follow. If I am reading what you wrote correctly, you are saying that STS-1 was crewed by William C. McCool, Jim Morris Pettit and Mary Clyde Bridgers. Acording to our article and the NASA web page on STS-1 it was crewed by John W. Young and Robert L. Crippen. -- GB fan 17:37, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Just for fun, Google "Mary Clyde Bridgers" and check out the Twitter accounts that show up in the results. clpo13_(talk) 17:39, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

I was just looking at that. -- GB fan 17:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

As far as I know, Valentina Tereshkova was the first astronaut. But looking at the Twitter account, I don't think we have to take this case very seriously. The Banner talk 17:49, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tereshkova was a cosmonaut, not an astronaut. "Astronaut" is a US title, not a synonym for "went into space". ‑ Iridescent 17:57, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

There's a "female" missing there as well. Britmax (talk) 18:06, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

"Astronette"? --Warning: tangent ahead--> The Astronettes probably satisfy WP's notability requirements for an article. -2606:A000:4C0C:E200:8558:6C31:688B:8595 (talk) 22:33, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

July 19

Census

In the section titled "Census data and research" - the link on "researchers" is no good and in RED. Yet it works in the few sentences above. PLUS Ref number 19 is all wrong. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srbernadette (talk • contribs) 02:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

It seems that another editor has corrected this. You are an experienced editor, and the main problem that you were reporting wasn't even a reference, just a piped link. You can learn to fix these errors yourself. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:29, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Resolved

The link did not work because an 'e' had been added to the word 'research'. Link removed as there is one just above it. The access date in the ref was wrong because 2106 is still 90 years away. Eagleash (talk) 02:37, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

List of Old Cliftonians

Please add British Royal Family to the Category section at the bottom of this page. We cannot do this. Sorry. ThanksSrbernadette (talk) 02:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

 Not done — Not all on the list are members of the British Royal Family; actually most are not. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:8558:6C31:688B:8595 (talk) 05:33, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

2 articles need tweaking article

1. The Laverne_Cox article is missing an upcoming listing called Doubt_(TV_series). It should be in her television listings. Doubt's article mentions her starring in a role. 2. In the Hercules_in_popular_culture article in other films it should mention Young Hercules starring Ian_Bohen. 209.53.181.73 (talk) 02:44, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

You should be able to edit both of those articles. Anyone can edit most articles. An account isn't required. If you're having problems, describe what happens when you try to edit. Copying-and-pasting any error messages will help. And if you have any other questions you're welcome to ask them here. --71.110.8.102 (talk) 03:38, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

List of Old Cliftonians

Please add the link British Royal Family to the "Category" section at the bottom of this page. We cannot see where to d it on our tabloid. Thanks so much Srbernadette (talk) 04:01, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

See identical post, above. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:8558:6C31:688B:8595 (talk) 05:33, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Error when trying to create a pdf

When I select download as pdf I get the error message "Book rendering failed". What can I doe about that? Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.114.216.141 (talk) 10:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

my edit got deleted.I am new.

Hi, I got a a broken link on the article of a wikipedia. I tried to fix it and given a new proper link.But it got deleted.May i know how to write or edit the proper one.Gopatholabs (talk) 11:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

This is about Nitrosamine. Gopatholabs: you deleted a reference which was not broken. You replaced it by a statement that was not relevant to the subject of the article, with a reference to a blog, which cannot be regarded as a reliable source. Another editor quite properly reverted what you had done. Maproom (talk) 11:45, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia is no venue to promote your blog (or any other external activity for that matter). Please see WP:PROMO and WP:SPAM for the relevant guidelines. GermanJoe (talk) 11:56, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Creating a reading list?

Hi, Is it possible to create a reading list for pages/articles I want to come back to at a later date? Regards, 86.157.5.193 (talk) 11:24, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes. This is a good use for your user page (but you'll need to register first, so as to have a user page). On your user page you can write something like the following. Maproom (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

My reading list

• Apple
• Banana
• Cryptogam

What constitutes an official website?

I was just wondering because I've reverted a couple of edits like this one in the past day or so. Setting aside the poorly sourced material, I note that the subject, Emma Bunton, is a co-owner of this site, but does this make it her official website? I'm tempted to add it to the external links, but am unsure that it qualifies as an official site. Can anyone offer some advice? Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 11:35, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll be interested in the answers to this. Analog Pussy is a group that broke up, and its two members both want their version of its "official website" listed in the article. Maproom (talk) 12:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

@Maproom: I do not know about the original request, but if two (ex-)members of the same group maintain concurrent "official websites" I think both links belong to the external link section, but neither to any "official website" attribute (infobox etc.). Of course, if one of them still performs and is the "real" Analog Pussy (e.g. owns the copyright), then their website is the official one, but there should be some mention of the other in the article. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:45, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Watchlist

At the top of my watchlist, it says

Below are the last 250 changes in the last 168 hours, as of 2016 July 19, 12:12.
Period of time to display:  7 days

But it only shows me two days. I have failed to find a way to get it to list more than two days. This may be my fault, I may have inadvertently changed some deeper setting somewhere. Any ideas how I can get it back to showing seven days? Maproom (talk) 12:17, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Do you have 250 as "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! That was it. Maproom (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Tracker or false positive?

I just checked my watchlist, and Privacy Badger said that there was a tracker on the page from feedburner.google.com. I opened a second tab with the same watchlist and there was only the usual mediawiki.org entries. Does anyone know what is going on? --Guy Macon (talk) 13:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Adding a picture

Header added by ColinFine (talk) 15:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Dear Wikipedias: thanks for all your great work! I am trying to complete my posting for Caroline Warner Hightower, a living person, by adding her portrait.

Two questions:

1) I understand that I need to obtain Ms. Hightower's consent, but where do I find the form for that?

2) The photographer's contact information is out of date, but he gave permission for her portrait to be used in conjunction with Ms. Hightower's posting on the AIGA website <http://www.aiga.org/medalist-caroline-warner-hightower/>, where it is still on display. So I think it can be considered fair use. Yes?

Thanks for your help. not sure how this reply will come to me- my email is

Thanks! David Laufer — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidCalvinLaufer (talk • contribs) 15:22, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, DavidCalvinLaufer. The reply comes to you here, and you should get notified because I pinged you.

Ms Hightower's consent is neither sought not required, unless she holds the copyright in the picture (usually not, unless her contract with the photographer or their employer said she did). We require that the copyright holder explicitly release the work under a compatible licence such as CC-BY-SA (which will allow anybody to reuse it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it). Permission to use, even to use in Wikipedia is not enough. The procedure the copyright holder must go through is explained at Donating copyright materials; but if you are unable to contact the owner, then I'm afraid you can't use the image on Wikipedia. (There are certain circumstances when a non-free image may be used, but these almost never apply for a picture of a living person) Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 15:34, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

First, you need to declare your COI on your Wikipedia talk page . I.e. Don't try and use Wikipedia editors to do your Public relations for you on the cheap! Second: Bard Martin may well be deceased– can't find anything current nor whom may have inherited the copyrights to his works – so you can't use use this image as of now – no way. Third: Invest in a digital camera. Present yourself (and this is really simple) before Caroline Warner Hightower and ask her to Say cheese. Whilst she is doing so, press the little button on the top of the camera. Then upload load the image(s) to [6]. We can then use your image(s) of Caroline Warner Hightower, that you took, on your own camera by yourself. As a background to the photograph(s), I suggest you shoot it in a room with shelves of learned-looking -books behind her (it adds gravitas to the image). By the way, what is it about her that makes her notable. She appear to have only worked for one of the many hundreds of US marketing companies and other part-time jobs. At this at this point you need to declare your COI as Wikipedia is not a trade directory. The article about her also reads more like a CV rather than an encyclopedic entry -so this sort of puffery is better posted on Linkedin--Aspro (talk) 17:43, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

About table export/import

Resolved

I would like to switch two columns of the table at Orders_of_magnitude_(length)#Overview. Going by hand would be error-prone and tedious*, but I would assume the only way to do it otherwise is to export to a table handling program such as LibreOffice Calc, copy-cut the columns in order, and then export back to wikitable. I have looked at the tools listed at Help:Table but (for instance) [7] fails to do the job properly, probably because of the "cell merging" (some cells are headings for two columns or multiple rows).

Does anyone have experience with table formatting from and to WP?

*It may not be so long to do it by hand, but sometimes, I would rather spend 10h coding a script that does the job in a millisecond than spend 1h doing it by hand, because of (1) intellectual satisfaction, (2) the off chance the need is repeated. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:00, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

@Tigraan: I just tried in my sandbox User:Sphilbrick/sandbox and it was trivial.

You must use VE (i.e. "edit" not "edit source"

I coped the top table down, then test to see if I could swap columns.

I inserted a column between 2 and 3, copied column 1 to the new column and deleted the now empty first column.--S Philbrick(Talk) 00:17, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

So WP:VE can do it, great. I would not know, I did not use it so far. (Just in case anyone cares: it must be activated, or else replace en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(...)?action=edit by en.wikipedia.org/wiki/(...)?veaction=edit in the editing url) Thanks! Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File not depicting as edited.

At File:20160330 MCDAAG Zach Collins J.jpg, I am not able to see the page as depicted in the most recent update at File:20160330 MCDAAG Zach Collins J.jpg#File history. Instead I am seeing a rotated version of the original distorted by swapped aspect ratios.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 18:39, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

It looks correct to me now after some purging. It doesn't always help but see commons:Help:Purge. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, It is not working for me at Talk:2016_McDonald's_All-American_Boys_Game#Image_voting.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:11, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I haven't been able to generate the 150px version. You can set | width = 151 or 149 to display the right image. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

O.K. Thx.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

July 20

Laird

I feel that the quote I have just edited in (ref number 15), should be formatted differently. Please assist if you can. Thanks101.182.141.11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I'm sorry, what do you mean by that? Do you think the quote may break copyright rules? In that case, this is the policy regarding quotes, so since you've referenced the original source you should be fine. (This is the diff the IP is referring to.) - a boat that can float! (watch me float) 08:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Toilet

Hello all,

I am coming from the article toilet. This page has an extended part on the word toilet, and there is a lot more information we have left out that we would like to let in to the article. We have resolved that one of the best ways is to produce an article solely dedicated to the word toilet, its regional dialects and euphemisms.

My question is if there is any precedence for this action, and what the article should be called.

Cheers - JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 08:47, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Another user has already noticed your inquiry and cross-posted it to the talk page for the toilet article. Please follow-up with your inquiry there in order to obtain a consensus on how to proceed with your idea. RegistryKey^(RegEdit) 09:55, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Cheers JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 10:54, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Laird

(see Laird above) 

You misunderstood. I meant that the new quote ref. number 15, should be indented with big quotes such as seen at the top of the Laird page. Please help/fix. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.141.11 (talk) 10:09, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

What is wrong with ref number 13 on the above page? Laird — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.141.11 (talk) 10:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Re Ref 13. The access date was wrong. It is not yet 2019. Eagleash (talk) 10:59, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Pinery bushfire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Pinery_bushfire

Your information about Janet Hughes is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:283:5C00:8DBC:5F58:6D9A:E82 (talk) 11:10, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

The article cites two references in support of the statement that Janet Hughes died in the fire. What information do you believe is incorrect? Maproom (talk) 11:40, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:یادکرد وب et Co.

What is the reason for a Persian-named Template:یادکرد وب? It simply redirects to Template:Cite web, however all instances of {{یادکرد وب}} I've seen do not only use a Farsi name for the template itself, but also for its parameters. And those Farsi parameters names go to the redirect destination template {{Cite web}} which does not recognize them. That way we gain NOTHING from the redirect; {{یادکرد وب}} templates do not work, whether redir exists or not.

I have fixed two of them recently: Laki dialect oldid=730633836 and Datis Lorestan F.C. oldid=730358605, but there are other waiting for fixing (Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:یادکرد وب).

Same issue with Turkish {{haber kaynağı}} → {{cite news}} (Nasaş G.S.K. oldid=730569358)
or French {{Ouvrage}} → {{Citation}} (Philippe François Maurice d'Albignac oldid=730421755).

Are there more such foreign-language redirects? Is there any routine to deal with them? --CiaPan (talk) 11:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

When it was created the edit comment was "(common copy-and-paste, will allow citation patrols to clean up)". RJFJR (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Great, thank you. :) I didn't check the redirection history. So, it was created deliberately. And now I found out that such redirection causes the 'empty citation' error due to parameters' names miss, which puts a page into Category:Pages with empty citations. Without that the unknown template name is displayed in an article only, and it's hard to be found (unless one exactly knows what to seek). --CiaPan (talk) 14:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Resolved

help: Change page name

Hello, the name of my business: Alfred Ceramic Art Museum recently changed. Formerly the Schein Joseph International Museum of Ceramic Art, we are now Alfred Ceramic Art Museum. We would like our page name to be changed but don't know how. All other information on the page has been updated. I appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfredceramicartmuseum (talk • contribs) 14:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Alfredceramicartmuseum
I have moved the page to Alfred Ceramic Art Museum and removed an external link from the bodytext and some overlinking.
Please note that, as you have a conflict of interest you should not be editing our article about the museum yourself, but suggesting changes on the article's talk page.
Furthermore your username violates our username policy which does not allow "Usernames that unambiguously represent the name of a company, group, institution or product" so you will need to change it. I have added an explanation of COI and the username policy on your talk page, including a link to how to change your username - which will probably be blocked shortly - Arjayay (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

How do I reach out to specific contributors of celebrity pages?

Hi,

We're launching a unique personal chat bot platform exclusively for celebrities and public figures. Their respective bots will be trained on their information from the web allowing fans and followers to have a meaningful Q&A style conversation with their virtual identities as if they're talking to the real person. An intimate conversational experience will make them feel more connected and engaged.

We believe it can be a good source of information for Wikipedia pages and thought if we could connect with some specific contributors who can help us understand the synergies.

Would really appreciate your help.

Many thanks, Abhi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.145.132.138 (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

No, that would not be an appropriate source of Wikipedia articles at all. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

To expand Ian.thomson's reply: Wikipedia is only interested in information which has been published in a reliable source (one with a reputation for editorial control and fact checking), and for most purposes only in information by people unconnected with the subject. Social media are hardly ever appropriate as sources for Wikipedia information. --ColinFine (talk) 15:13, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Redirects for images?

File:Touched by His Noodly Appendage.jpg is now a redlink, replaced by File:Touched by His Noodly Appendage HD.jpg The redlinked file has 24 pages that link to it. Will a normal redirect work with an image file, or do I need to do something special? --Guy Macon (talk) 16:00, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

It should work like a regular redirect; there really is only one way to find out (I did test it though; worked fine for me). Note that this should only work for links to the image; if you want to use the image itself, your best bet would be to just replace it. JudgeRM (talk to me) 17:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Glitch

This happened while editing at Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/Requests. Click here to edit the same section as I was. Here is what it looks like:

Thanks. — Music1201 ^talk 17:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

It happens to me even when editing any section or the entire page. Maybe there's an issue with the edit notice? clpo13_(talk) 17:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

• (edit conflict) FWIW, I do see the same behaviour, and for pretty much every section (existent or non-existent, try for instance [8]). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 17:09, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

• Same for me, the page garbaged, although looks a bit different. May be it's due to a different browser – I'm using MS IE 11 on Win10 Home now. --CiaPan (talk) 17:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Reverting the page notice fixed it. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 17:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Weird, I wonder what the issue is. I used the same code as my user page editnotice and got the same wonky formatting. clpo13_(talk) 17:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@Music1201 and Zzuuzz: One of the tables wasn't closed. There needs to be another |} at the end ([9]). clpo13_(talk) 17:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Works for me. Thanks. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 17:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. — Music1201 ^talk 17:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I confirm: the page displays correctly now. --CiaPan (talk) 22:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Seperated list in decades

Hello, I have a question regarding award pages such as the Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series, Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Younger Actress in a Drama Series, which have one single table for all the multiple decades the award has been presented. The tables were split from one another by decade previously, however when I nominated those pages for a featured list, I was told to merge them into one table, (with no explanation why). I find that the way those pages are right now is very difficult, especially on mobile devices when it takes a long time to scroll to reach a specific year a reader might be looking for. I want to split them, in all the different decades such as pages like the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series, and Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or a Movie (granted those are not featured list). However, before I start doing it, I want to make sure that I am not violating any Wikipedia rules by doing so and want to know if this is even a good idea? Should I leave it as is, or make a table for all the different decades! I want to start soon on this, so a fast answer to my question(s) would be truly aprreciated! Thank you!!  — JJakathestrength (talk, contribs) 18:11, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Does Wikipedia have any rules or guidelines about the use (or non-use) of the serial comma?

Does Wikipedia have any rules or guidelines about the use (or non-use) of the serial comma? Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 18:20, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes. See MOS:SERIAL for the guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Draft:Coming Through the Rye (2015 film)

I have created this draft on my sandbox and I've submitted it for review. Right now I'm waiting as to whether it be accepted or declined. Here's my question: what would happen if I copied and pasted what I've written on the draft here before the draft is reviewed? Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 19:52, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

See WP:CUTPASTE for an explanation why copying and pasting is bad. Ruslik_Zero 20:12, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

You say the draft is "on your sandbox", but what you have been working on is Draft:Coming Through the Rye (2015 film), a draft in draft space and not in any sandbox. If you create a copy of it in article space, then your draft will get rejected as a copy of an existing article, and the article may get deleted for some defect (actually it looks pretty good to me, but I know nothing of films) and as unreviewed. In any case you would have wasted the reviewer's time. Maproom (talk) 20:20, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

French language references on English language page?

I am hoping to expand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Investment_Bank. My question relates to this line:

"However, NGOs acknowledge important improvements in the EIB's transparency since 2004, and the new transparency policy adopted in 2010 is widely considered to be up to standards reflecting international best practice.[28]".

Ref 28 is for an archived EIB page in French. Which seems to pose two problems. First, it is a document by the subject. Secondly, I do not speak French.

I have multiple English language references that contradict the claim.

Is it appropriate for me to simply ignore the EIB French language references and rewrite this section using the English language references I have? Or what can I do? QM123 (talk) 20:26, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@QM123: The language of a source is considered to be irrelevant when determining its validity. If you cannot speak French, there are plenty of free online translation tools that can allow you to get the gist of what the source is saying. Having said that, from what you describe it seems pretty clear that the French source is not reliable (if it was written by the subject), so if you have more reliable references in English then incorporating them into the section seems like a good idea. Depending on the exact situation, it might be appropriate to show both sides of the argument ("EIB claim that... while others say...") or to just present the view of your English sources ("it is widely considered that..."). — Bilorv_(talk)^(c)(e) 21:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

uncomfortable music sample

hi there. can you tell me how can i fix the audio samples in this article ?. cuz it seems to be uncomfortable . i wanted it to be like this but i cant understand . why thats not. Amir Muhammad 20:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

What I would try is: 1) Remove file from page; 2) Clear the cache for that page (see {{purge}}, but there's probably an easier way}); 3) Edit the file back in. --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:60BC:894:7787:F31 (talk) 22:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

The Main Google Releases Blogspot Page is broken

I'm having a problem. Lately I was upgrading the version numbers of Google Chrome and Chrome OS Stable, Beta, and Dev Channels, but when the stable channel update link appeared on the Main Google Chrome Releases page, all of a sudden, these three links are broken, and they all load forever without revealing the news or anything at all! When will the website issues be fixed so that I can go back to updating the Chrome and Chrome OS version pages again? --Angeldeb82 (talk) 22:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

It looks like there's a broken script on the page. You'll have to contact the Chrome team to let them know. They have Twitter and Facebook accounts you could notify. I see somebody (probably you) left a comment on the blog post, so I would guess they're aware and working on it. clpo13_(talk) 22:22, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Qulsar, Inc.

Hi,

I represent Qulsar, Inc. This page was recently deleted after we made a few edits to the page, and we really like to know how can be get the page back. We are completely wiped off the Wikipedia and it is hurting our business already. Any helpful information will be great. We need to get our content up on Wiki ASAP, do we need to create a new page for that? If yes then how can we go about doing the same and what are the guidelines we should follow in order to not get deleted again?

Looking forward to hearing from you

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Punnyatowa 84 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

I am visually impaired and can't edit articles without being asked to fill in the capcha

Hi I have recently joined Wikipedia. When I try to edit an article and reference what I have written, i'm not able to save my edit without being told to fill in a capcha. I am visually impaired and my screenreader can't read the capcha image. I was able to request an account be created for me, but there is no audio option or no other way that I can reference my edits. If I write an edit but don't add links, I don't get asked to fill in the capcha. But last time I editted an article and didn't insert a reference, my edit got removed. Please help Jess — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geekgirl1990 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that once you are autoconfirmed, meaning you have made at least ten edits as a registered user (that haven't been reverted), then the capcha requirement will go away. You are nearly there; just do some minor edits that don't any external links. --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:60BC:894:7787:F31 (talk) 23:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@Geekgirl1990: Autoconfirmed accounts no longer have to enter CAPTCHA's to add external links. This happens when the account is at least four days old and has made ten edits. You only need 38 more hours and two edits to become autoconfirmed. No edits by your account have been removed. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)