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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Kudpung (talk | contribs) at 10:38, 9 July 2017 (→Tasking suggestions: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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I've archived the original page and its talk in their entirety as it existed before today at Wikipedia:Autoconfirmed article creation trial/2011 archive, and have unarchived the current page and removed any threaded discussion. If I have removed more than people thought should be removed, please feel free to add it back. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tasking suggestions

Some years ago, I sorted out a huge meandering project with 400 participants that had got stuck and was going nowhere, by splitting it up into separate tasks for development. It worked, and today we have one of our most important deletion systems.

Since the original ACTRIAL concept and the issues leading up to it, the envelope profile of the fire hose of new articles has changed significantly over the last 6 years. What we are getting now is a lot of artspam, non English articles (generally COPIVIO), and a great deal of stuff from non English language regions (probably most of it). This means that we have to consider the readabilty of interface messages and the Wizard for non native English users, perhaps even using snippets of Hindi, Malayalam, Arabic, and Russian on the first splash page.

What a lot of people don't realise, is that ACTRIAL is a lot more than simply preventing new users from creating pages in mainspace. At the time of its conception in 2011, it involved three separate elements, and these are my suggestions how I think the developmental tasking of ACTRIAL could be allocated:

ACTRIAL
  • Code: Granular permissions in the MediaWiki control panel (if there is one, I’ve never done an instal of Media Wiki) - WMF
  • Interface message texts
  • Interface templates code (php, js?) for built-in logic (if there is any) - WMF
  • Newsletter to admins
  • Newsletter to New Page patrollers
Article Creation Flow/Landing page
  • Interface message texts
  • Interface message graphics
  • Code - WMF
Article Wizard

This really needs distilling. Its walls of text are enough to put anyone off. I started to rebuild it offline years ago and fortunately, it had no programmed built in logic and was just made up of css, links, and templates for transclusion. Ideally, it should be a genuine conditional process using .js so users can’t override it once they are in it. Anyone who can write js can have a go at it once the visuals and texts are done, and the logic paths explained.

To keep it centralised, the above three elements could be the basis for separate sub (workshop) pages here. I don't think we would want it to be on one of the confusing WikiMedia sub-department or research pages. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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