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Frequently asked questions

Q: I know I've seen tequila with a worm in it. Are you sure your sources aren't wrong?

A: As the article states, if it has a worm in it, it's mezcal and not tequila. Much like cognac or champagne in France, the distinction of tequila is tightly regulated by the Mexican goverment.

Q: Why isn't (my favorite brand) mentioned in more detail?

A: At one point, the article did have a list of brands, but it was incomplete, abused by advertisers, and rapidly became a point of contention. As a result, this article attempts to be brand-neutral, but well-written, separate articles for individual brands are encouraged.

Q: What about tequila produced outside of Mexico?

A: Again, like champagne in France, the Mexican government has an exclusive right to decide what is officially tequila. This includes a designation of origin that restricts where agaves can be harvested and where tequila can be produced. Agave-based spirits are made in other parts of Mexico and other countries, but they cannot legally be sold as "tequila."

Q: What about "premium" grades of tequila?

A: There is no rule against them being mentioned, but they aren't official types of tequila. They are mostly a marketing tool used by producers to distinguish between different price levels. Once regulators approve a spirit as tequila, the only official distinctions are whether it is "pure" or "mixtos" and how long it has been aged.

Content

Regulation section

Is the regulation section really necessary/relevant? How many countries' regulations could we add? Should we also add Botswana, South Africa, Greece, Russia, Sweden and Japan? I hope you get the point. --83.251.124.203 (talk) 21:26, 25 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tequila good for health?

As far as i know there are a lot of benefits for ingesting tequila. I've read it's benefical for the heart and other organs if its drunk in a moderate manner. --189.135.71.148 03:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Upper?

Is it true tequila is a stimulant? jengod 08:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know of any evidence for that claim (other than that sugar is a stimulant, so it is as much a stimulant as any other alcohol). Users (including myself) report a more "alert" feeling than other alcohols. And back when I used to consume far too much of the stuff, I noticed that even drinking a lot of tequila would not lead to debilitating headaches or other hangover symptoms the next morning (though it is still not recommended before a day of work, lol). I speak only of my experience with 100% agave tequilas.

My theory is that the agave sugar is less of a dehydrating agent than cane or other sugars. I have no evidence to back this up and I am not a scientist or doctor, so it's purely a guess on my part. I don't know if this is related to the "alertness" issue or not. Perhaps someone with actual medicinal knowledge can offer more info. csloat 09:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to BartenderOne "Tequila and Absinthe are the only alcoholic beverages" that are stimulants. - SKA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.187.106 (talk) 07:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Revision of good faith edits

Cuervo advertising

I removed "The first tequila was made by Jose María Guadalupe de Cuervo in 1795." from history because 1) it is not true (Tequila was first distilled by the early colonizers) and 2) this smells like an ad. Correct me if I'm wrong — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teebol (talk • contribs) 20:04, 16 October 2010 (UTC) Tequila was actually named for the town, not vice versa. Native Americans have been drinking the fermented extract of the Blue Agave for over 2,000 years.[reply]

Two Uncited Facts

Hi, I've removed two facts from the production section of the page because I couldn't find strong citations for them. The first one

This distinction has diminished recently since the agave shortage that arose in 1999-2000, when many of the larger, lowland producers began relying on agave from both areas to produce their tequila.

seems like it may be possible in some cases, but the clearest source I could find for it was just this discussion on a forum. I couldn't find any sources for the second one

Most highland agaves are raised on west-facing slopes, allowing them to receive more sunlight throughout the day and grow larger and juicier.

and I'm not sure if it makes sense. If anything, wouldn't the south-facing slope be the one that receives the most sunlight (as Mexico's still in the Northern hemisphere)? And a rain shadow argument doesn't make sense because Jalisco is on the West coast, so the eastern side of any mountain range would probably have less cloud cover.
I could be wrong though, and if anyone finds a good source, we should definitely put them back in. Zar2gar1 (talk) 22:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources & citations

Copyright violation?

From the thread on how tequila is normally served:

It is also found on this site [1]. Copyvio? Ubermonkey 01:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

If anything, I think this site might be the one violating copyright. While working on the production section, I stumbled on that site which had an exact copy of the Wikipedia page. I checked the revision dates though, and while the exact same words were added to Wikipedia in 2008, the site now gives a copyright starting in 2009.
He did do it all at once, and it was the contributer's only registered edit, which may be a little strange. It's always possible the contributer lifted it, but the citations aren't bad and imply actually reading a third source. I would think if the other site's copyright were legit, they'd be aware of it and complain about it. Zar2gar1 (talk) 04:08, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Likely/definite vandalism

Reflist vandalism

Someone has edited one of the links to contain "General Lee hates sp***" This may or may not be the case, but it doesn't belong here. Not sure how to edit this section, can somebody show me? Notapotato (talk) 07:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed this racist vandalism. What a world of idiots we live in... Teebol (talk) 21:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Garrett

In the glasses section it states "Garrett hates this." without any reference or mentioning Garrett anywhere else. Who is Garrett, and why is there no reference 84.84.94.70 (talk) 21:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Reason for oven picture?

The article shows an image of plants in an oven yet makes no mention of using the oven in production. 192.25.142.225 (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC) Joe S.[reply]

tequila and 'the war against drugs'

tequila is a drug from mexico. why is it legal? is the mexican military chasing agave growers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.122.94 (talk) 23:00, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

error

There seems to be an error in one of the dates.

'Some 80 years later, around 1600, Don Pedro Sánchez de Tagle, the Marquis of Altamira, began mass-producing tequila at the first factory in the territory of modern-day Jalisco.'

However when crossed referenced to the Don pedro link it states he lived from 1661-1723. Does not add up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.142.87.115 (talk) 05:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

'quality' comments in article

it is subjective to say that one tequila is 'better quality' than another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.108.8 (talk) 08:29, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How would you suggest we improve this? - SummerPhD (talk) 15:33, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Global warming and quality

A single interview of a single individual does not qualify as a reliable source for the assertion that global warming is affecting the quality of tequila or the agave starting material. The proposition that the warming observed over the time frame of the single commentator's experience -- about 0.2°C -- is responsible for large changes in the maturation rate of agave is scientifically unfounded and dubious. 97.91.254.54 (talk) 06:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're correct. That's why I deleted it. 202.49.183.1 (talk) 09:49, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Regulation

- Spirit drinks trade act http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/statistics-and-market-information/by-product-sector/processed-food-and-beverages/spirit-drinks-trade-act-questions-and-answers/?id=1275417614751

http://www.ianchadwick.com/tequila/controls.htm

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/c.r.c.,_c._870/page-29.html#h-59

- Labeling requirements

http://www.tequila.net/faqs/tequila/what-are-the-regulations-governing-tequila.html

Spicypineapples (talk) 20:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chemistry

- Chemical components

  - Colour
  - Alcohol content
  - Flavour
  - Aroma

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.3109/07388559509150529

- Fermentation

Spicypineapples (talk) 20:28, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Quality Control

http://download.springer.com/enwiki/static/pdf/422/art%253A10.1007%252Fs10295-009-0534-y.pdf?originUrl=http%3A%2F%2Flink.springer.com%2Farticle%2F10.1007%2Fs10295-009-0534-y&token2=exp=1455311414~acl=%2Fstatic%2Fpdf%2F422%2Fart%25253A10.1007%25252Fs10295-009-0534-y.pdf%3ForiginUrl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Flink.springer.com%252Farticle%252F10.1007%252Fs10295-009-0534-y*~hmac=bc5ce01d1a42e8951e81f7ea6baa5fa29f627971de2d573dfa5e63c2dad9e66b

-Benefits of aging process

-Storage conditions

Spicypineapples (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tequila and osteoporosis

Just in case we get someone trying to add one of the recent sensationalist news stories about tequila curing bone cancer or some shit like that, here's Harvard Medical School explaining "no, that's not how that works." Ian.thomson (talk) 00:11, 16 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Probable typo fix

Changed "Aging: Chemistry": "The final result of these changes are increased concentrations of acids, esters and aldehydes and a decrease in fuel oil concentration" to read "fusel oil", per context of rest of paragraph and likelihood of typo. (Reference given [28] is a dead link.)

This is only an educated reader guess, so check by someone with knowledge would be good.

Lamerc (talk) 20:11, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Correct; it was meant to be fusel oil. – Phoney (talk) 09:18, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]