Talk:The Magic Flute (1975 film)

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Since there was consensus to move Die Zauberflöte to The Magic Flute, this has to be moved, though, so I did. —Nightstallion (?) 00:55, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have suggested that this article be moved to The Magic Flute (film) or The Magic Flute (Bergmann) to leave primary usage for the opera; and to diambiguate before Branagh;s film shows up. Septentrionalis 06:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We may as well anticipate the Branagh film and have the Bergman one at The Magic Flute (1975 film) and the Branagh one at The Magic Flute (2006 film). I believe that it's standard to disambiguate films with the same title by year rather than by director. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose That overcomplicates the matter. There is also a book named Magic Flute, and other work. Gryffindor 01:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oppposed to moving to Magic Flute-Bergman since it is overcomplication.

However,

Agree that moving to MAGIC FLUTE (film) does make some sense, as other versions may come along over time and all can be grouped together. I wrote/edited most of what we now see under the Bergman film.

Vivaverdi 01:30, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Reopening discussion

How about The Magic Flute (1975 film), The Magic Flute (2006 film), and The Magic Flute (children's book)? Her Pegship 06:26, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds reasonable to me, but then I wanted to disambiguate before. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's a good idea until the 2006 film and the book have articles written about them that are more than stubs. Tamino 09:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Tamino. Let's wait till there is something to werite about.

Vivaverdi 16:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have moved the children's book to the main Magic Flute article, since it doesn't belong in an article on films. The Singing Badger 20:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the article should mention more of Bergman's deliberate changes from the libretto or traditional staging. Supposedly the opera is set in Egypt; Bergman uses a snowy northern setting (Sweden?) and the "Masonic" Temple looks like a monastery. Monostatos is portrayed as a white man, thus avoiding the unpleasant racist connotations in the original libretto (the English subtitles still call him a "Moor" but I don't know if that was in the original Swedish script). Papageno's mentor ad-libs a line "Why do they send me the problem cases?!" At the end Sarastro does not preside over the finale but abdicates and departs on a quest (an idea that originated with Goethe and has been used in some other productions) CharlesTheBold 18:35, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]