Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Jarvis (2nd nomination)

Peter Jarvis

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renominating for deletion. This was deleted through AfD, but since there was little participation last time was restored through WP:REFUND. I hope the discussion gets more participation this time so we can get consensus one way or the other. I stand by my original reasoning for deletion which was "A WP:SPA creation. This is not an easy decision, by all accounts he does a good job, but I don't think the subject passes WP:NMUSICIAN. He is mentioned in a few newspaper articles, but I don't really see any in-depth.coverage. The most coverage I really see is a New York Times article that says "The Percussion Symphony is another matter. This mammoth work, conducted from memory by Peter Jarvis, seems to be on its way to becoming a genuine 20th-century warhorse - and with good reason. It is a riotous celebration of rhythm - colorful and even poetic." That's only a few sentences. His television work is minor and I don't believe any of his compositions pass WP:NMUSIC" Rusf10 (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Meets Criterion 5 of WP:MUSICBIO, with multiple recordings as percussionist or conductor on important indie labels, including Naxos, Koch International, Elektra/Nonesuch, CRI, Abkco and maybe some of the others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidships (talk • contribs) 10:29, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

* Speedy keep --Glevson geradi2 (talk) 10:30, 26 June 2018 (UTC)vote by banned user--Rusf10 (talk) 11:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, by recordings and pieces composed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 14:22, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, he's a percussionist (quite whatever that is) and conductor, so however many pieces he claims to have played on, or conducted, he doesn't pass WP:GNG unless he's been noticed significantly, or had a marked success. This is just a very long CV. Claiming to have played on several recordings isn't the same as "released two or more albums on a major record label", because we don't know (or have any proof) of what he contributed to the works (otherwise every musician on an a orchestral recording would be 'notable'). While there are some indications of mentions in the 1980s (which means there are possibly pre-internet sources) there are no claims of success in the article, sourced or unsourced. Wikipedia isn't a directory of professional musicians. Sionk (talk) 19:06, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

percussionist. Davidships (talk) 09:25, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Quite whatever that is"? That comes off as a little derogatory. List of percussionists. Zingarese talk · contribs 19:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 16:06, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions. Hhkohh (talk) 03:16, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The conductor plays the largest role in the ensemble. Jarvis has, as conductor, made numerous recordings for such notable labels as Koch and CRI; as such, he passes WP:MUSICBIO. His reviews in NY Times and numerous pieces composed for him adds to his notability. Zingarese (talk) 01:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He hasn't released any albums. Where I can find any proof, Jarvis performed on 2 or 3 tracks of lengthy albums. And is only mentioned in the NYT reviews. Sionk (talk) 05:19, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sionk: Jarvis is a primary artist on this album and this album, both on Naxos Records. Also, he is featured as a conductor on at least six albums listed at https://peterjarvismusic.com/discography/ , https://www.discogs.com/artist/694441-Peter-Jarvis and https://www.allmusic.com/artist/peter-jarvis-mn0001394292/credits. Yes, he is, on average, only featured in one work per these albums (one track per movement), but a lot of those works are over 20 minutes. If we say that albums are usually a minimum of 35-45 minutes in length, that would easily make the equivalent of three more albums consisting of his own recordings. Zingarese talk · contribs 19:19, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Meets NMUSICBIO and GNG. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 23:44, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How does he pass MUSICBIO?--Rusf10 (talk) 01:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG Don’t see how it passes. Snowycats (talk) 04:38, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Snowycats:Why would it be kept if it fails GNG?--Rusf10 (talk) 17:52, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, didn’t see that. Corrected. Snowycats (talk) 18:05, 15 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]