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JoshuSasori

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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/JoshuSasori/Archive.


11 July 2018

– This SPI case is open.

Suspected sockpuppets


It's been a really long time, but the reason for that is probably because I stopped keeping an eye out for tell-tale socks of this user when he (mostly) stopped his off-wiki harassment of me, not because there was any good reason to believe he wasn't evading his ban.

  • The NYFO account's first edit doesn't look like an editor's typical first edit, tagging a sentence buried quite deep in an article on a filmmaker JS's original account had edited frequently.[1][2]
  • The NYFO account has a fair degree of overlap with the JoshuSasori account and the most prolific confirmed sock.[3] (The large number of "0"s is more because of the low level of activity -- 270 edits in 39 months -- than because the three don't have common areas of interest.)
  • NYFO appears, based on his edits to UK politicians and the like, to be based in the UK; JoshuSasori, if I recall correctly, used British spelling in articles and if I recall correctly insulted me on one occasion using specifically British slang. Both editors also appear to be readers of the British film magazine Sight & Sound.[4] (I can dig up the diffs of both if necessary, but the NYFO ones are the account's most recent edits, and this is a really minor point anyway.)
  • Several of the NYFO account's early edits look like "See, I'm totally not JoshuSasori! I added diacritics!"[5][6] which is something JS was known to do. The Tokyo IPs in the archives frequently touted their supposedly having conflicted with the logged-in JS shortly before his block, and I'm 90% certain JS created the Shahwould (talk · contribs) account, whose sole purpose was adding macrons to Japanese film articles, as a joe-job so he could talk on his blog about how I was actively socking -- it would be an astonishing coincidence otherwise.
    • This would be suspicious enough by itself, but by 2015 the "diacritic wars" (or at least the "macron wars" in articles on Japanese cinema) were no longer a thing, so a new account re-stoking them out of the blue would have been super fishy.
  • The only non-Japanese film article on JoshuSasori's top ten most edited was Django Unchained, which was the "current" film by Quentin Tarantino, and Tarantino also appears to be one of the non-Japanese filmmakers NYFO is interested in.[7]
  • The NYFO account's two most-edited pages are Tokyo Story and the closely-related Yasujirō Ozu, the latter of which was so important to JS that not only was it his main account's third most-edited article but all of the "good hand" socks (the ones that weren't created specifically to troll me, which were mostly caught by CU) have edited it.
  • The NYFO account linked an obscure article that was basically the sole work of the Mysterious Island account.[8][9]
  • The NYFO account, which had not and has not otherwise expressed any interest in classical Japanese poetry, showed up on an article I was editing, in a manner that would have been near-impossible to explain without assuming it was monitoring me.[10] My name was showing up on ANI at the time, but why would an editor who never posted to ANI randomly follow someone who was mentioned on ANI to an article that wasn't mentioned on ANI?
  • Just per what's demonstrated above we have (1) a British Wikipedian, (2) who is interested in the films of Quentin Tarantino, (3) who is very interested in the films of Yasujiro Ozu, (4) who is at least aware of the obscure 1960s Wakadaishō series, (5) and was monitoring my edits inexplicably in 2015. Two or three of these could be a simple coincidence, but not all five, and especially not the last one; there's absolutely no overlap between Ariwara no Narihira and the rest of this account's edits.

Requesting CU because a formerly prolific sockpuppeteer with a currently live account, but said account not being very active, implies the existence of others. I know the CU data for JS is all very stale, but if NYFO has other accounts they should show up (I think?). The last few bullet points above have me absolutely convinced that NYFO is JoshuSasori.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:18, 11 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added Shahwould as a formality. The account is extremely stale, and I doubt its owner even remembers the password, but it was an obvious joe-job (JS started talking off-wiki about how it was me almost immediately), and I don't think I'm technically allowed say that without formally requesting that it be blocked as a sock. Per the above, I don't see much point in doing so, but part of the above evidence against NYFO depended on the assertion that SW was also a sock. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If I withdraw my CU request will this attract attention sooner? The behavioral evidence is airtight, and I don't even know if CU can be used to check for sleepers in cases like this. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 18:59, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If I recall correctly, talking about my "copious free time" was another recurring characteristic of JS's attacks. See for example this. Note also that NYFOM has not explained how he mysteriously came across that one low-vis article on a ninth-century Japanese poet. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:24, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the notification. Seems like Hijiri88 has a lot of free time, one might even say "copious free time" is his motto. Sorry but I don't know anything about any of this. What's the problem here? I haven't vandalised any articles. NotYourFathersOldsmobile (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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