Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Elalan
Elalan
- Elalan (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Trincomanb (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Code letter: D - Vote fraud for a closed vote where the possible sockpuppet votes affect the outcome.
I would kindly request the admins to look into this request and check whether User:Elalan is a puppetmaster of User:Trincomanb as User Elalan's page has been marked to be a sockpuppet page of User Trincomanb. User Elalan has done a lot of contributions to WP:NCSLC and also a lot of Sri Lanka related articles and to brush them aside sounds very unfair to a fellow Wiki editor. He has been accused of vote stacking for a TfD by people who actually were votestacking and this sounds more like a vendetta than anything else. Like all other Wiki editors I strongly think that deserves a fair chance to prove his point.
Thanks for your help. Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 16:04, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Likely. Looks like a classic case of editing at home with one account and at school with another. Essjay (Talk) 11:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like no effort is being made to prove otherwise than a clear-cut predefined notion that they are sockpuppets. Would like to have a complete check. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 15:12, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Trincomanb
- Trincomanb (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Elalan (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Code letter: Please do this checkuser on me and Trincomanb to stop what I perceive is continued harassment at me and user:Sudharsansn. I helped expose one of snowold4's friends (user:Lahiru_k) involved in massive vote-rigging and vandalism [1].
This has continued even today on other NCSLC wikiproject members [2]
User user:snowolfd4 who was under investigation from before, has made some dubious claims that I am a sockpuppet of user:Trincomanb and that I have been engaged in voting fraud (please see this case [3]). I just want to be cleared from this nonsense. Elalan 17:53, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
- I see this more as a kind of vendetta than anything else. Elalan points out Snowolf and Lahiru and they frame up something against Elalan and vandalize my pages with sockpuppets of Lahiru!! Eitherway, the procedure should confirm things. Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 18:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Declined. There is a major problem with using checkuser to try and clear yourself: Nobody will believe the result. In every case I can remember where this has been attempted, the following happens:
- We run the checkuser and say "Technical evidence cannot connect the two users."
- The user that was accused immediately brandishes it as undisputed proof that he/she is innocent.
- Everyone else immediately brandishes it as undisputed proof that not only was the user guilty of sockpuppetry, but was using open proxies and other means to avoid detection.
- The user finds that far from having been vindicated, he/she is now even worse off than he/she was to begin with.
So, the moral of the story is, having a checkuser run on yourself to "prove you are innocent" doesn't work, and that's why we don't do it. Essjay (Talk) 00:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
- Does it mean that the tag on his page is simply going to stay inspite of all his contributions to Wikipedia? This is unfair. Can someone please confirm how this procedure could be done and also how to get that tag out of his page. I am concerned because he has contributed a lot to WP:NCSLC and several other Sri Lanka related pages and I personally think that he should be given a fair chance to prove himself like all other editors in Wikipedia. Kindly help. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 14:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Subsequent requests related to this user should be made above, in a new section.