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Template:CBB yearly record start

We have an ongoing issue with a new heading caption at Template:CBB yearly record start that could use some more input from folks here. Please see the talk page of that template. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

This issue had now been generalized into a broader RFC, which can be found at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Accessibility#RfC on table captions. This has wide-ranging implications for this and other sports projects. @Rikster2:, you should definitely take a look at this. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 15:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

All-America article pictures

All - I have been playing around trying to see if I could come up with a format to add a picture collage to the yearly All-America team articles. I think it would be a nice addition if we could figure out a layout that would look aesthetically pleasing if possible. Anyone able to help? I have been trying to play with the options at Template:Multiple image and Template:Photo montage.

My attempts are below (used Winston to show 5 players)

Members of the 2020 Consensus All-America first team. Clockwise from upper left: Garza, Powell, Toppin and Pritchard (not pictured: Howard).

The 2020 consensus first team. Clockwise from top left: Toppin, Garza, Winston, Pritchard, Powell.

Anyone have a better way to do it and thoughts about placement to maximize different screen types? Or is it just a bad idea? If seen some nice looking montages for cities and countries so wonder if something could work here. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 21:12, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

• I think it is a good idea. I think the difference between this and city montages is that the city pics are often several combined into one. I'm not the most tech savvy, but I think this could work in theory. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 22:28, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

The 2020 consensus first team. Clockwise from top left: Toppin, Garza, Winston, Pritchard, Powell.

• Here's {{multiple images}} with 5 images, and more uniform heights that the montage template (maybe it's fixable). The editorial decision when there are 5 images is which 2 players to pick to show up bigger than the rest. Toppin and Garza work this year since they both got POY awards.—Bagumba (talk) 11:59, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Please take part in a preliminary discussion about revising WP:NCOLLATH

Discussion found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football#Revisit WP:NCOLLATH?. Thanks. Rikster2 (talk) 12:31, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Impact of Louisville's vacated wins on Western Kentucky

MHS1976 has made several edits to Western Kentucky Hilltoppers basketball articles related to Louisville's vacated wins from the 2011–12 through 2014–15 seasons. My understanding is that when a team vacates a win, this no impact on their opponent's record. A loss is still a loss for for the loser, even though the victor has vacated their win. MHS1976 has edited Western Kentucky Hilltoppers basketball, 2011–12 WKU Hilltoppers basketball team, 2012–13 WKU Hilltoppers basketball team, 2013–14 Western Kentucky Hilltoppers basketball team, and 2014–15 Western Kentucky Hilltoppers basketball team to suggest that Western Kentucky has vacated their loses to Louisville. I am quite certain this is incorrect. NCAA records and Western Kentucky's media guide still regard these games as losses for Western Kentucky. See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Vacated victories, which applies to all sports. Can others weigh in here? Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 16:15, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Vacating a game has the effect of erasing the game, as if it never happened. Take a look at the Louisville team pages for the affected years to see how vacating is supposed to be noted.MHS1976

The Louisville articles correctly note the vacation of their wins. But Louisville's opponents do not vacate their loss. What about the NCAA records and Western Kentucky's media guide that I linked above? Or Wikipedia:WikiProject College football/Vacated victories, which states "The NCAA prescribes different treatment for vacated wins or contests depending on whether the affected match was a regular season game or took place during a tournament or bowl. In most cases, the win is stricken from the penalized team's official record, but the opponent retains the associated loss"? Or articles for other teams that lost to Louisville in the years in questions, e.g. 2013–14 UConn Huskies men's basketball team? Jweiss11 (talk) 17:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

I stand corrected. After further research you are right. It does not make sense that the win by the cheating team is vacated but not the loss by the opponent, but it is not unusual for the NCAA not to make sense.

Wink Bowman

This very short article has a big issue- 1 The name and its info box. Both are based on a blogspot blog. Blogspot blogs fail as a reliable source because they are self published. If you check out the blogspot blog it says its source is....get this.... Find a Grave fails as a reliable source. Where is the find a grave info originally from? A paid obituary. Also failing WP RS

2- The info box where the birthday and place and death and everything are based on the blogspot-FAG link-paid obituary. So is the name Wink Bowman! Basketballreference, which is a rs, has the name for the basketball player as Al Bowman. Other than his one year stat line of pro basketball, there is no other info on this person from basketball reference.

Could Wink Bowman be Al Bowman? There is no proof for it I see. May I point out the Bill Henrystory where someone claimed to be him. The creator of the Bowman article is retired. Any thoughts? I'm inclined at the moment to rename the article AL Bowman and rip out the Wink stuff because it isn't reliably sourced....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 02:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

There is a Wink Bowman playing for Hammond Ciesars in thr NBL mentioned in this 1941 newspaper clip.—Bagumba (talk) 18:29, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Question about college info box

Question about college info boxes. Are we to add both schools if the individual played for 2 schools? Or even 3?? Or just the last school the individual played at? S882019 (talk) 00:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

it’s all the schools as long as they have played at least one regular season game for each (example) Rikster2 (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

So in other words, we don't list schools if they never played but did attend, for instance LiAngelo Ball. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 01:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Is football done differently? If so why?? S882019 (talk) 20:33, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

• Not sure. I've seen some football infoboxes that only list the college they last played for, while others have all the colleges. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 20:39, 26 April 2020 (UTC)