User talk:MYS1979
Notice of discretionary sanctions
This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in the Arab–Israeli conflict. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
Editors are required to have both 30 days tenure and 500 edits before editing articles or content related to the Palestine-Israel conflict. AmbivalentUnequivocality (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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Last warning
If you edits articles about the conflict I will report you.Please follow the policies --Shrike (talk) 06:54, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
June 2020
Your addition to Shooting of Eyad al-Hallaq has been removed in whole or in part, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. If you are the copyright holder, please read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for more information on uploading your material to Wikipedia. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted material, including text or images from print publications or from other websites, without an appropriate and verifiable license. All such contributions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of content, such as sentences or images—you must write using your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, and persistent violators of our copyright policy will be blocked from editing. See Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources for more information. — Diannaa (talk) 01:11, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Diannaa(talk) for your note, I believe the picture I have uploaded has editorial permission (license to use for non commercial purposes) as a new Wikipedia comer I couldn't find the right corresponding tag to mark it as such. Although I put a link to the original site showing the permission to use for "editorial" purposes. Thanks again for the note and my apologies for this confusion.
- My note was about text copied from Haaretz, not a photo. It's not okay to add copyright material to Wikipedia. But this applies to both photos and text. We don't accept photos that are only available for non-commercial purposes; that's not compatible with our license.— Diannaa (talk) 11:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification, I got that adding a reference is not enough, but had there been quotation marks around the text would that have been acceptable? or it's imperative that I reword the text and add the reference instead. I know there is a lot for me to learn here.-MYS1979 (talk) 18:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Discussion
I apologize for not responding sooner to the messages you left, I did not notice them as you left them on the talk page of my old account and I do not get notified when things are posted there as I would have had you left them on the page of this account. My intention was not to ignore your questions. While it is true that I removed the material initially and primarily due to the 30/500 restrictions, there were other issues with the material as well. Had I felt the material was justified I would have re-added it, much in the same way as I removed the word "warning" because you were correct that it was not included in the source material. Because the source you gave for the East Jerusalem part did not mention the subject of the article, it violated No Original Research and No Synthesis of Sources, which prohibit editors from adding material in order to make a point that is not present in the sources themselves. Also, just because something is verifiable does not mean that it belongs on Wikipedia. This is where the policy of Due Weight comes in. We only put emphasis on things that reliable sources put emphasis on. If reliable sources about a topic do not cover, or only very briefly cover, some aspect of that topic, neither do we. Regarding the part about the caregiver, we need to be very careful about how we phrase things and what we say in Wikipedia's voice. If a source presents something in a way such as (And this is a made up example for clarity) "This person said that it rained for a hundred days in a row" we do not write "It rained for a hundred days in a row", as that takes an attributed statement and puts it in Wikipedia's voice. We should attribute the statement to the person who made it the same way the source does. Furthermore, if the source is biased or lacking in reliability, we would go one step further and say rather "This source stated that this person said...". Lastly, while I understand your passion for things you care deeply about, it is important to remember that the purpose of Wikipedia is not to Right Great Wrongs, and editing with that goal in mind can make it very difficult to write things from the neutral point of view required. One of the benefits of the 30/500 restrictions is that it gives you a chance to learn about Wikipedia's policies and style guidelines while editing subjects that are not as controversial, so that when you start editing the controversial ones you are much more well versed in the way Wikipedia functions and is written. I hope this helps. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask. AmbivalentUnequivocality (talk) 23:34, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks again AmbivalentUnequivocality for taking the time to respond. You have also encouraged me to read new material about No Original Research, No Synthesis of Sources, Neutral point of view, and Verifiability. I am thankful for you for ever. However now that I know one or two things about where you are coming from, please allow me to respectfully disagree at least in part of what you have stated. When it comes to the caregiver testimonial, it certainly doesn't constitute an original research, it was neutral, verifiable and doesn't synthesize multiple sources. In fact my mistake there was not adding the quotes as Dianna(admin) issued me an alert for a non intended copy right violation. That being said if you are referring to the sentence related to where the incident took place and the fact it happened in East Jerusalem which is considered to be a Palestinian territory occupied by Israel since 1967 by the international community and is subject to continuing human right violations with the following reference to support this claim here. Only a tiny minority in this world find this controversial. In the international community circles saying what i said is like saying Paris is the capital of France. Look, there is no closer ally to Israel than the US but the US government refused to put Jerusalem/Israel on an American passport and the supreme court endorsed it's right in doing so. Check Zivotofsky_v._Kerry. The UN resolution I picked under a title that says "Israeli practices affecting the human rights of the Palestinian people in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem" we read at the bottom of page 3 "Expressing grave concern about the continuing systematic violation of the human rights of the Palestinian people by Israel, the occupying Power, including that arising from the excessive use of force and military operations causing death and injury to Palestinian civilians, including children, women and non-violent, peaceful demonstrators, as well as journalists, medical personnel and humanitarian personnel; the arbitrary imprisonment and detention of Palestinians, some of whom have been imprisoned for decades; the use of collective punishment; the closure of areas; the confiscation of land; the establishment and expansion of settlements; the construction of a wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory in departure from the Armistice Line, etc". It's one straight forward related to the topic and verifiable source unless.
- In short thank you for removing the world "warning" from the original text, and for pointing me to the 500/30 rule, but when it comes to the actual edits themselves, removing them under any other pretext is a violation of Wikipedia guidelines on neutrality. I am hoping that I can get your help to reinstate them or any other editor for that matter not subject to the 500/30 rule. For that reason I have opened a talking point on that article.