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Sparta women's rights

The Sparta women could vote,rule,and be in charge of their husbands. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.236.169.135 (talk) 00:16, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi everyone! I will be editing this page as a part of my college course for the next couple of weeks. I’m planning on focusing my revisions on organization with some minor content/source additions. I’d like for this article to be similar to Women in Classical Athens, which has achieved good article status. If you have any suggestions, questions, or concerns feel free to message me! Hrmailhos (talk) 03:37, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm thinking of making the 'Matriarchal Duties' a sub-section of the 'Marriage' section and possibly adding other subsections. I was thinking of creating one for the Spartan marriage ritual/newlywed expectations that citizens had to abide by, since Lycurgus had some interesting laws about this. If anyone has any ideas for this please let me know! --Hrmailhos (talk) 02:57, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would also like to add a section on female homoeroticism as seen in Alcman's choral hymn poems since they are pretty erotic in nature. I have several scholarly sources on female homoeroticism in Ancient Greece but I will be reading through them again to look for any information specific to ancient Sparta.

I am also planning on adding more information about Xenophon and his Constitution of the Lacedaemonians as it is a very important source on women in ancient Sparta and it is scarcely mentioned throughout this article, especially in the 'Sources' section.

The new sections that I added, 'Female homoeroticism in Sparta' and 'Marriage Ritual' are pretty sparse at the moment just because I'm not an expert on the subjects, however I thought that added them to this article would allow for future editors to come in and add to them and hopefully will result in a more well-rounded article in the future. If you have any questions or concerns about these additions feel free to reach out to me! Hrmailhos (talk) 17:43, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spartiate rather than Spartan

As far as I can see, this article deals exlusively with Spartiate women, rather than with all women who inhabited the Spartan state, and does not make this distinction clear. This is a glaring omission as helots and perioikoi far outnumbered Spartan citizens (Spartiates) - see Helots#Demography - and they certainly did not enjoy the education and did not participate in the sports described in the article.

I'll start with stating this clearly in the lede, but possibly we'll need to rename this article. The question is whether enough information can be found about the status of non-citizen women, to make this article more balanced. Alaexis_¿question? 14:09, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]