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Survivor Fiji

Please stop putting in Survivor Fiji. Only one source is saying it, and that source isn't confirming it. Last season Survivor Maps was right, but right now, they have no maps, no extended info, and little or no links. Once again, they aren't confirming it. Also, before the Survivor Panama Reunion Show when the official name was revealed, the page Survivor 13 got changed to Survivor Cook Islands a day or two before. This shouldn't happen again, as no one could be totally sure. Please stop. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 19:43, 25 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Survivor Maps is getting more info. Fiji may actually be right. However, if we do put it on the page, we still shouldn't move it to Survivor: Fiji until Jeff says it officially at the reunion, so it's 100% confirmed. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 11:13, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, hence my last couple of reverts. -- Gogo Dodo 04:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not saying it shouldn't be on the page. There is so much info on it now, including Survivor Maps, which is usually reliable. I think Fiji should be included in the article, along with about 5 sources. However, there should be no page move and no putting it in the infobox. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 22:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Teckwiz. Reywas92^Talk 00:30, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but perhaps it should be a "Rumored location" section instead of the outright renaming like this revision? I don't think Template:Survivorseries should be modified until the official name is announced. While it's pretty fair to think that it will be called "Survivor: Fiji", it might be called "Survivor: South Pacific" for all we know. -- Gogo Dodo 00:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Like Gogo Dodo said, it may not be called Survivor Fiji, so it should just say that it may be filmed in Fiji. No info on it in the infobox, in the page title, or in template. TeckWiz is 12 yrs old^TalkContribs_{# of Edits} 11:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I checked around and Fiji has been confirmed by the Fijian government. [1] [2] So I inserted it into the article with references. I still believe that we should leave the article title "Survivor 14" and no changes to the name or template for the reasons I stated previously. -- Gogo Dodo 20:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Anyone have a better logo image? I tried going to innertube on CBS.com to take a screenshot of the part where they talk about Fiji, but it stops about 5 minutes before the end. T e ckWiz^TalkContribs_@ 02:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of contestenant Articles?

Just taking a quick look around the web I noticed that at least a couple of these contestants could use an article on them. Rita Verreos is a former Miss Venezuela contestant who has had a bit part in a movie, and models. She is also the sister of Project Runway contestant Nick Verreos. Sylvia Kwan is the head of a big architecture company in San Francisco, Kwan Henmi. A quick google search brings up multiple articles about her and her company. Just a couple of thoughts. EnsRedShirt 19:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, i think thats a good idea, but it may be wise to wait for the show to gain a bit of publicity first (i.e. with the showing of 3-4 episodes) so that the public can identify them. Also, if they make it far in the game, it helps the case to create articles about them. Survivorfan101 04:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Only make articles for the contestants who did something quite important outside of the show. Many Survivor contestant articles have been AFD'd for non-notability and must make it to the final 5 or something. Reywas92^Talk_Sigs 14:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's a bit early to think about individual articles. I think the general view is that the castaway has to reach the final two (or three in Cook Islands' case) before they warrant an individual article just on their appearance in Survivor alone. -- Gogo Dodo 19:51, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but EnsRedShirt is saying that that at least these two contestants may be notable based on non-Survivor things as well. --Maxamegalon2000 22:04, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But just being a relative of another famous person or one simple other fact that unless such a page already existed, would not make for a good Wikipage; it can be noted on the Survivor page, but as suggested, unless they become a top contender and a lot more can be said about them (eg like Dan the Astronaut or Gary the football player), they shouldn't get their own page. --Masem 22:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Masem. --TeckWiz^TalkContribs_@ 22:11, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cast Pics for Table

Is anyone able to provide small shots of the cast for the table, similar to the cast table on the Survivor: Cook Islands page? Survivorfan101 09:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried, but I couldn't find any good images that could be used without taking screenshots. I think that if we can't find images, we should go back to the format used for the Palau and Guatemala pages. -- Scorpion 16:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nice editions, but pics for Cassandra and Stacy need to be downsizes - i don't know how to do it myself, although i have tried! Survivorfan101 02:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried as well... the images don't seem to want to shrink. I would guess that this is a bug in Wikipedia but I'm not sure. --ΨΦorg 03:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it, though I have no idea why what I did fixed it. I added "center" and everything resized. -- Gogo Dodo 06:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys, the table looks great! Survivorfan101 08:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What happened to the images? Survivorfan101 05:39, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

auto deletion due to poor labelling? There's no sign of change on the page to disclude them. --05:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I think an IP user uploaded them and thus likely didn't tag them properly. I have no idea where the images came from and I don't think they came from the official site. -- Scorpion 05:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Update: They were uploaded by User:58.69.21.119. -- Scorpion 05:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The images came from the CBS Early show site but were cut and resized. Survivorfan101 11:07, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Game table prep

My DVR showed the name of episode 1 so I started The Game section. I also prepared the Elimination Notes, Exile Notes, and Voting History table. So that the sections are not empty, I commented out the three aforementioned sections. If you're the first one who updates the article with the tribe assignments, I hope you use the table. -- Gogo Dodo 20:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The table

Since there are no pictures of the castaways, perhaps we should go back to the pre-Panama table format. Thoughts? -- Scorpion 15:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nicknames

James seems to be using Rocky for a name, so I changed the sort order accordingly. As for Gary and his "Papa Smurf" nickname, it seemed unclear to me if that was what he was going to use or just what the castaways decided to call him. There was no interview with him during episode 1 so it's still a question mark. I'm tempted to remove the "Papa Smurf" thing until it's cleared up. Thoughts? -- Gogo Dodo 05:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Gary was interviewed in the first episode; he said that Sylvia was trying to dominate during the construction of the camp. The on-screen caption said "GARY SCHOOL BUS DRIVER", which I just confirmed on CBS Innertube (about 2:02 into the second section of the video). --ΨΦorg 14:56, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd agree: use only the nicknames that are in the onscreen captions. As with most seasons, as the show goes on the survivors will generate other nicknames for the other players, but these aren't "official" and by allowing the informal ones, you'll have people adding all sorts of nicknames to the contestant list (similar problem w/ Amazing Race). --Masem 15:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Works for me. I've removed Gary's nickname. -- Gogo Dodo 16:45, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that these sort of nicknames (i.e. Rocky and Dreamz) should be used in the voting history table. In all other season wikipedia pages, the names that appear on the offical website are used in these tables. Some extend to nicknames (for example, Cao Boi and Ozzy were used on the official site) but not always (for example, Jenn and Nate were used in the game, but Jennifer and Nathan on the official sites - hence they were used in the voting history tables). I say Dreamz be changed back to Dre and Rocky be changed back to James for the voting table only. Anyone agree? Survivorfan101 22:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]