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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Neutralhomer (talk | contribs) at 09:09, 28 December 2008. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Your recent edits

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August 2008

Regarding your comments on Talk:United States Navy SEALs: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Out (talk) 15:17, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to The Greaseman, did not appear to be constructive and has been removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Your edits to The Greaseman page are approaching vandalism. You have zero references (a news article, something, not a YouTube video). Plus, you edits to Dukes' and O'Meara's pages have to make me seriously doubt your information as Dukes and O'Meara have been big on radio hoaxes for years. Cite a credible reference or drop it. NeutralHomerTalk 05:56, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Final Warning

Saying things like "DC101 IS HIS FUCKING EMPLOYER!!!" and "Don't be a douche" is a good way to get blocked....fast. Tone the language down...and pay attention. Greaseman ain't dead. If you continue, to add continued, now, lies to Wikipedia, I will report you to AIV and to your ISP, Verizon. Stop now, this is your final warning. - NeutralHomerTalk 18:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits

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This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to Talk:The Greaseman, you will be blocked from editing. Thank You and Good Night. NeutralHomerTalk 02:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been temporarily blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for attempting to harass other users. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Toddst1 (talk) 02:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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October 2008

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
If you vandalize Wikipedia again, as you did to Talk:The Greaseman, you will be blocked from editing. NeutralHomerTalk • October 11, 2008 @ 03:26 03:26, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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You have been temporarily blocked from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for repeated abuse of editing privileges. Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below.

Read WP:BLP, we don't go by one reliable source with regard to sensitive content - we ensure that there is sufficient quantity of reliable sources. Whatever, by continuing this argument in the absence of further independent third party confirmation is simply harrasment and your use of language also makes it a personal attack. Under the circumstances, and that a previous 72 hour block failed to persuade you to reconsider I have now blocked you for a week. LessHeard vanU (talk) 17:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 16:35, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ooookay?

You never lied? Right. OK, so for your continued assertions that The Greaseman has passed on, I have reported you, YET AGAIN, to WP:AIV for vandalism. As for your behavior, if you ever want to be a contributing member of Wikipedia, I suggest you learn the rules and abide by them. - NeutralHomerTalk • October 11, 2008 @ 17:11

Blocking and Neutralhomer's Continued Lying

No, Neutralhomer, I NEVER asserted that the Greaseman had died (and yes I know how trivial this is, but you continue to lie about me, and I cannot accept that). You reported me for vandalism for truthfully reporting on your talk page what I had actually done? HOW IS THAT VANDALISM? ISN'T REPORTING THAT AS VANDALISM A LIE? To recap, I wrote that the Greaseman's death HAD BEEN REPORTED by SOURCES considered RELIABLE by WIKIPEDIA STANDARDS. You accused me of lying and vandalism. You are wrong and I am right. Let's find out how the WikiProcess works, shall we?

You said:

" DC101's Elliot announced on-air this morning that Greaseman is alive, not dead. It seems the company Greaseman works for wasn't so credible in its original report after all. EvWill (talk) 13:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

EvWill is right, Grease did a spot on Elliot in the Morning this morning (confirmed by DCRTV.com and my ears) and Grease was on his boat and spent most of the night calling people letting them know he wasn't dead. So, DC101 and YouTube ain't credible references. - NeutralHomer • Talk 18:29, 24 September 2008 (UTC) "

Guess what, Elliot in the Morning is ON DC101. Therefore, by YOUR standards, this broadcast wasn't a reliable source. You are wrong and I am right.

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

My reason: I was blocked because Neutralhomer chooses to lie, as detailed above. I have bolded the lie for your convenience. I committed no vandalism and told no lies. It's a trivial matter, but I cannot tolerate lying. I am willing to entertain the possibility that it might simply be a matter of faulty reading comprehension, but still, the block needs to be reversed because the purported offense never happened.

Decline reason:

Come back once your block has expired, and without shouting about lies. remember to assume good faith, and stop accusing other editors. Just take a deep breath, and come back in a week or so. — Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 21:06, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Again, I never asserted the Greaseman's death.

Since Neturalhomer chooses to edit the Greaseman Discussion page to erase the past, I will post the relevant exchange here (he gave "removing vandalism" as the reason for editing it out; his only tool is a hammer, perhaps, so he sees me as a nail, perhaps)

Your Lie(s) About Me

You wrote: "Final Warning

Saying things like "DC101 IS HIS FUCKING EMPLOYER!!!" and "Don't be a douche" is a good way to get blocked....fast. Tone the language down...and pay attention. Greaseman ain't dead. If you continue, to add continued, now, lies to Wikipedia, I will report you to AIV and to your ISP, Verizon. Stop now, this is your final warning. - NeutralHomer • Talk 18:33, 24 September 2008 (UTC)"

Yes, I did use the language (on a talk page) and if it will make the booboo feel better, I apologize. But who doesn't enjoy a nice summer's eve?

BUT, you need to STOP LYING about me. I never said the Greaseman was dead, only that his death had been reported by sources considered reliable by Wikipedia standards. A little attention to detail on your part would be much appreciated, Eve. Otherwise, perhaps it is I who shall report you. Tell you what: you admit and retract your lie and I will consider the matter closed. Fair?

Let's look at your odd writing style: "If you continue, to add continued, now, lies to Wikipedia," Just what are you going for there?

I've never put a lie on Wikipedia, contrary to your assertion. Anyone who lies about me can go screw.

Your threat to report me to my ISP (FOR WHAT, EVE?) is beyond pathetic. Two pops for yes!! Report away.

Now, the admin who blocked me said that more than one reliable source was needed on sensitive matters. He did not research sufficiently to reach a correct conclusion.

Let's all remember, shall we, that I never said that Greaseman was dead, simply that he was REPORTED DEAD. There's a big difference, and the fact that it was reported is not in dispute. I NEVER SAID GREASEMAN WAS DEAD. Yet Neutralhomer continues to assert that I did. THAT IS A LIE. I consider someone lying about me a personal attack, under Wikipedia guidelines. Is this a "separate but equal" or "separate and unequal" system?

The admin who blocked me wants more than one source that someone said something on the radio. Let's look at Wikipedia's entry on Cesar Romero's personal life, shall we? There is NO source cited for his death, nor his homosexuality, yet those are all sensitive topics, are they not? Why doesn't Neutralhomer report the author of this page for vandalism?

The fact that Neutralhomer claims that dealing with me gave him a migraine on the talk page of the admin who blocked me demonstrates that this is a personally based effort on his part.

To recap: I never lied. I never vandalized. That should be enough.

Now let's look at Wikipedia's reckless report of Cesar Romero's death and homosexuality, shall we? Sensitive matters, no?



Personal life

Romero believed in liberation theology. Romero was very Christian yet still believed in a utopian society whose belief is that Christ's kingdom would be very similar to Marx's envisionment of communism, and held to this belief until his death.[1][2]

Romero always claimed his grandfather on his mother's side was Cuban poet and patriot José Martí, although his mother's parents were legally Carmen and Manuel Mantilla with José Martí as his godfather. There was some speculation that Maria was fathered by Martí who was a boarder in the Mantilla household, but he never claimed Maria as his daughter in his lifetime.

Romero was never married, despite proposing to at least one woman. Romero made regular appearances on the Hollywood social circuit, usually in the company of an attractive actress, and he was almost always described in interviews and articles as a "confirmed bachelor." Romero discussed his homosexuality in a series of interviews with author Boze Hadleigh, with the understanding that they would not be published during his lifetime.

Romero wore a man's tennis bracelet inscribed with his favorite nickname: "Butch." The term was reportedly bestowed on Romero by his one-time dancing partner Joan Crawford, who teased Romero by telling him: "You're so butch!" While Romero's homosexuality was an "open secret" in Hollywood, the movie-going public was unaware of his sexual proclivities and there was never any embarrassing scandal surrounding his male liaisons, which shows the care and finesse with which he conducted his private life for more than 60 years.

Romero was a mainstay of the Hollywood social circuit until his death in 1994. He was interred at Inglewood Park Cemetery in South-Central Los Angeles community of Inglewood, California.

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  • OK, final edit on this subject. You got blocked because of your behaviour and because of your actions, your words, your posts. I didn't get you blocked, you did. If you want to try and throw blame around, that's fine, whatever. But it isn't getting you unblocked any quicker. Hopefully in a week, after taking a nice deep breath, you can come back and follow the rules here and contribute without all the drama...hopefully. Again, final edit on the subject, you are now talking to yourself. - NeutralHomerTalk • October 12, 2008 @ 05:05

Hmm, I don't remember asking to be blocked. Perhaps you put in that request. What say you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.200.35.192 (talk) 06:32, 26 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]