Talk:Notre Dame Victory March

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On 3 June 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Victory March. The result of the discussion was Moved to Notre Dame Victory March.

Public High Schools use of the tune

I graduated from a public high school, Ballard High School (Louisville), that at the time, (I graduated in 1974), used the tune for its fight song. I have no idea if it is still used by Ballard. I understand that other public schools use it as well. --rogerd 04:32, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Question - why are there lyrics here? Lyrics are generally copyrighted and may not be included for that reason, and lyrics are definitely source text which Wikipedia tends to avoid. Radiant_>|< 11:34, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- This is very different from lyrics to a current pop tune. Under U.S. law these lyrics would have entered the public domain long ago (if they were ever copyrighted in the first place). Furthermore, with the number of schools around the world that have adopted the tune and variations of the lyrics. I think this is, if not sui generis, at least so different than other examples of the use of lyrics that it is not within the scope anticipated by WP:NOT. -- DS1953 ^talk 17:56, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Notre Dame's athletic web site has an explanation of this. The famous chorus and its melody are now in the public domain in the United States (though not in most other countries) and landed there in the 1980s, which is one reason you hear renditions and adaptations in so many commercials, etc. But the verse that starts "Rally sons of Notre Dame..." and its melody, were copyrighted in the 1920s and thus still protected. See http://und.cstv.com/trads/nd-fightsong.html Cheemo 01:39, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV

Please, let's try to keep the mention of the song as "one of the most popular..." in accordance with WP:NPOV. Just because one professor thinks it is the best, doesn't mean this encyclopedia should say it is the best. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 14:26, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Removed section

I have removed the "Usage by other sports teams" section as it was an non-encyclopedic list of various non-notable high schools and college who learned to play this song. Maintaining this list is WP:NOT the purpose of Wikipedia. Prhartcom (talk) 22:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Sydney Swans Football Club? Surely they could be notable. They are one of the biggest sporting clubs in Australia and average over 30,000 attendees at every home game.

Airplane!

I think that most people outside the US know this primarily from the film Airplane! where it is used throughout. Does this deserve a mention in the article? -- JediLofty ^{Talk to me}_{Follow me} 09:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Notre Dame Victory March. It's "Notre Dame Victory March" that has found the greatest support in this discussion. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 01:45, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Victory March (fight song) → Victory March – This song is the WP:PTOPIC for the term "Victory March". There are two articles on Wikipedia that currently are given parenthetical disambiguation: this article and an article whose title is the translation of the title of an Italian movie title. Moving this article to Victory March while maintaining the hatnote would provide for appropriate navigation while eliminating this article's unnecessary parenthetical disambiguation. — Ⓜ️hawk10 (talk) 17:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree per nom. Eccekevin (talk) 00:54, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment uses on Wikipedia seem to indicate it should be called Notre Dame Victory March -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 03:41, 4 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Victory march should be a dab page. Move to Notre Dame Victory March In ictu oculi (talk) 07:26, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

curprev 02:22, 26 September 2012‎ Fittold27 talk contribs‎ 40 bytes +6‎ ←Redirected page to Victory March (fight song) undothank

curprev 02:17, 26 September 2012‎ Fittold27 talk contribs‎ 34 bytes +34‎ Fittold27 moved page Victory March to Victory March (film): Disambiguation thank

- Support this alternate proposal. Victory march (fight song) should move to Notre Dame Victory March which currently redirects there. Victory March should be a DAB, and Victory march should redirect to it. Andrewa (talk) 18:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Andrewa's proposal. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 19:23, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.