Talk:Ray Comfort

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to change several books to over 100 books Jesusfre (talk) 04:03, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:59, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thriftbooks lists 99.

https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/ray-comfort/202810/

Goodreads lists 170.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/list/8662.Ray_Comfort

Amazon lists 321 but many are different language versions, audio versions, or large print versions of the same book. plus some that are edited by Comfort but written by Darwin, Whitefield, Spurgeon, etc.

https://www.amazon.com/Ray-Comfort/e/B001JS57SW

Rationalwiki quotes Comfort as claiming "He is the author of more than 60 books, including The Evidence Bible (a Gold Medallion Award finalist), God Doesn't Believe in Atheists, and The Way of the Master."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Ray_Comfort

I suggest that the OP compile a list of Comfort's books and post them here on the talk page. (and of course tell us where you got the list so we can verify the claim). We can go from there.

2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:6831:3D80:599B:74CA (talk) 13:33, 8 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If a reliable source mentions the number of books he wrote, we can quote that. If not, we do not do our own research. See WP:OR. --Hob Gadling (talk) 05:24, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:CALC (which is part of WP:OR), if we find a reliable source that allows us to create a bibliography for Comfort, we are allowed to count the books in the bibliography; "Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Basic arithmetic, such as adding numbers, converting units, or calculating a person's age, is almost always permissible." Again, Jesusfre (who made the one edit and has never edited again) is free to create a list of Comfort's books and post it here (WP:OR says "This policy does not apply to talk pages") with a source. If the source is reliable (see WP:RS) we can from that create both a bibliography and a better count than "several" for the number of books written. 2600:1700:D0A0:21B0:5492:DBAA:58D1:5E76 (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You also have to find out if those are all different books or one is just a new edition of another which has been given another name. --Hob Gadling (talk) 14:39, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]