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Good evening! I noticed you made some changes to Bailey Willis. I thought they were very interesting. I made some stylistic and grammar changes to make it read slightly better. Thank you for the contribution!

Thank you RedBeardBandit, I really need this kind of correction in English. Thanks again.

November 2020

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Praxidicae this is a preliminary response to Your message, until I'll read all this carefully and will consult with other editors. I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits - Absolutely not!!! This is my first new article in the English WikipediA, as you can read in my personal User page. Till this last edit, I only added chapters or other additional significant texts to exist articles in the English WikipediA. I mainly edit in the Hebrew WikipediA and only from last April. Maybe I was not aware of several rules here, but to blame me with a so .... charge, makes me incredibly sad. Yes, I know Michel Platnic personaly and his work from a very close sight, and follow his career, but as I already declared I have got nothing for my edit. I'll try to follow the instructions that was written here by you and other, and hope to revive this important article soon. Thanks! Ronavni (talk) 22:01, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Great, then what is your connection to Platnic? Praxidicae (talk) 22:11, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Praxidicae I am away for a few days and use only my cellular. I'm using now a laptop of a friend to give a speed response and later, as I mentioned above, I'll learn all your comments in aim to clear the fog. In brief, a friend of mine, Moti Dariel who is an artist by himself, met Platnic in Gordon gallery in Tel Aviv and was impressed very much from his art. He told me about this and showed me part of his works. I was impressed too. As Dariel knew that I am active as an editor in the Hebrew WikipediA, he realized that there is no article about him in the Hebrew WikipediA, and he asked me if it possible to write an article in the Hebrew Wikipedia. I agreed with enthusiasm and after I finished, We both thought that it worth also an article in the English Wikipedia. We made together a research with a little help of Platnic himself, and I enjoied every minute during the research and the edit. As I already declared, no compensation was involved during all this and after. It was and is a pure interest in art and writing Wikipedia articles. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 16:09, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Praxidicae In anticipation of your response and mine, I provide some verifiable facts that may make it easier for you to correct your impression: I am a retired scientist (Ph.D in Phisic Geography, from BGU) and formerly Chief Internal Auditor of Ben Gurion University (1997-2018) and subsist comfortably on my and my wife’s pensions. In my 50 years’ career I have never had need or time or inclination to seek additional financial remuneration from other sources, (in general but of course especially in the years in my sensitive position as the CIA of BGU - that's the reason why I taught more than 20 years voluntarily to avoid conflict of interest). I still teach at the university voluntarily without getting any direct or indirect compensation, only satisfaction. I'm going to do a deep revision of the article, taking into account all of your comments. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Thank you for creating Michel Platnic.

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please check the Shpilman Prize, I think there's an error.

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Vexations (talk) 17:33, 7 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Vexations: thank you for your comment, I will work on this very soon, and for all other coments inside the article. I must say that I hardly accept the comment:"non-primry source needed" because I think that most of the sources under this comment are secondary, but I am going to be advised by others. Thank you again, Ronavni (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Ronavni, what we call a primary versus a secondary source varies a bit, and I sometimes see it conflated with independent source. I try to use it in the sense of WP:SECONDARY: primary sources lack analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. Vexations (talk) 13:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)ץ[reply]
@Vexations: Yes, you are right. Most of the references that are under the comment "non-primary source needed" are in fact secondaries. They are not a manuscript of the person of the article, but a manuscript of another one, that had heard him, and wrote in his own words a secondary impression or testimony. I analyzed during my research works at the university many historical documents, and I have a close understanding about this matter. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 15:33, 9 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amplification

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Thank you. Leschnei (talk) 11:47, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK Leschnei, now I understood, and made the correct extension - I hope. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 18:19, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good! I removed the link to Earthquake to fit the 'one blue link' thing above. Leschnei (talk) 21:44, 30 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Leschnei, I usually work at the Hebrew Wikipedia, and there the rules are a little different, so every time that I try to edit in the English Wikipedia, I learn more. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 10:03, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think that it would be very hard to work on two different Wikipedias - the guidelines vary so much. I have enough trouble just getting it right in one language! Leschnei (talk) 14:46, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Leschnei I appreciate your attitude, Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 14:52, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Vanessa Lapa moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Vanessa Lapa, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) In addition, you appear to have a WP:UPE or WP:COI conflict. Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, and have addressed the UPE/COI issue, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Do not move the page into mainspace yourself. Onel5969 TT me 19:18, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you one15969 Just now saw this message. I will take care of this. Thanks Ronavni (talk) 11:05, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one15969 I read your remarks carefully. My immediate comment is that I haven't got any payment or any benefit for writing the article. I've just read an article in an Israeli newspaper about Vanessa Lapa and her films, and I was so impressed that I decided to write an article in the Hebrew Wikipedia, and then I translated it to the English one. I had no acquaintance with her before and even after writing the article in Hebrew. So, it is clear that I have no conflict of interest in this case or in any other article that I wrote in the Hebrew nor in the English Wikipedia. I will consider changes in the references. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 11:22, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, it is clear that you have a COI/UPE issue. The fact that you are not admitting to it, makes it even more clear that it is likely UPE. Until you address that issue as per the instructions at WP:UPE, you should not submit the article for review. And you should not move the article into mainspace yourself. Onel5969 TT me 11:48, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
with all the respect one15969 It is impertinence. How it is clear? Just because you say this? I served my last 21 years before retiring as the Chief Internal Auditor of the Ben Gurion University of the Negev. I teach at this university till today and nobody ever tried to blame me with such Accusations. it is a shame! Ronavni (talk) 16:36, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, not because I say it's so, but there are clear irrefutable indications. Onel5969 TT me 16:43, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one15969 such as??? And who will review the article when it will be ready? You? with your bias attitude? Ronavni (talk) 17:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one15969 Well, you haven't given any example of what you called "clear irrefutable indications". I have very little experience in the English Wikipedia. Can you submit our Disagreements to any neutral arbitrary? Can you behave with such integrity? Don't be at the same time the prosecutor and the judge. Ronavni (talk) 12:47, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, not going to give away the tell-tale clues that UPE/COI do so that those editors can game the system. If you would like you could post a comment over at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Reviewers asking other reviewers to take a look. You obviously know this person, and refuse to divulge how you know them. That's not going to win you many points in any discussion. Onel5969 TT me 13:03, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one15969 I didn't say that I don't know her today! I clearly wrote above: I quote: "I had no acquaintance with her before and even after writing the article in Hebrew". Yes, I know her today, because after her nomination to the Israeli Academia prize (that she won), I introduce myself to her in an accidental meeting and suggested her that I will translate the Hebrew article to English. I repeat I had no acquaintance with her before and even after writing the article in Hebrew. Yes, I met her a bit later, after the nomination, and the English article is more or less a translation from the Hebrew version. So I had no conflict of interest when I wrote the Hebrew version because I didn't know her at that time, and as the English version is a translation, so in principle there is no conflict of interest here. Ronavni (talk) 16:44, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, so you have a clear COI. Thank you. Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
one15969 Be happy! the English Wikipedia doesn't! Ronavni (talk) 18:47, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Ways to improve 1975 Oroville Earthquake

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Paul W (talk) 15:44, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Paul W, I'll work on this very soon, Ronavni (talk) 16:35, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Paul W, I made the rewritting and removed the tag. I hope It's ok now. There are probably some wording problems in the text, hope that you or others can fix it. It was very surprising that such an important earthquake doesn't have an article in the English Wikipedia. That's the only reason why I tried to write an article concerning this despite my poor English. Thank you, Ronavni (talk) 12:14, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I did some minor edits to reduce some overlinking and improve the English in places. Seems better now. Paul W (talk) 22:10, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Paul W, I appreciate this, Ronavni (talk) 15:31, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

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Dear Diannaa , I can't see what you have erased from the article. Can you explain which content hasn't respected the copyrights of anybody? I have no problem to leave the article as it was before I started to add value to. Good luck with your supervision. Thanks, Ronavni (talk) 15:49, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your addition was flagged as a potential copyright issue and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the report. Click on the iThenticate link to view what was found by the detection service. — Diannaa (talk) 16:03, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Diannaa. I did my best to add value to this relatively poor article, without vaiolating copyrights. Most of the text I add is a translation from the Hebrew WikipedIa which I wrote most of the text. I'm sure that there is much to improve the wording, which I hope you or somebody elese wil make. Thanks again, Ronavni (talk) 18:13, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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