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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Otr500 (talk | contribs) at 16:01, 6 March 2023 (→Article issues and classification: Reply.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Former featured article candidateABBA is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 18, 2006Featured article candidateNot promoted
June 29, 2006Peer reviewReviewed
September 20, 2017Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Former featured article candidate

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Article issues and classification

The B-class criteria #1 states; The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. and #4, The article is reasonably well-written.
The article has inline "citation needed" tags from October 2022 and February 2023, as well as several unsourced sentences and paragraphs so does not pass the B-class criteria. Reassess article to C-class.
There are no "Documentaries" sections between the "Further reading" and "External links" according to the MOS.
There are ten entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion.
  • ELpoints #3) states: Links in the "External links" section should be kept to a minimum. A lack of external links or a small number of external links is not a reason to add external links.
  • LINKFARM states: There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate.
  • WP:ELMIN: Minimize the number of links.
Move excessive links here for future examination:

-- Otr500 (talk) 15:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Actually given the size of the article I'd say way more than 3 external links are acceptable and so far we are nowhere near link farm dangers. And a non-excessive number of useful links isn't a reason to remove some either.

As far as the Documentary section is concerned where is it supposed to go if not between Further reading and External links?--Kmhkmh (talk) 17:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MOS:LAYOUTWORKS suggests before the "See also" section. The actual layout of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists of works suggests the same. ::If there is no "See also" section then above any styled "References" (Notes, etc...) section.
If there is no "Further reading" section nothing would generally go between the "References" and "External links". -- Otr500 (talk) 18:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be a misunderstanding with regard to the styleguide. The places you suggest, if I understand the styleguide correctly, are for works or documentaries by Abba (the article's subject) but not for documentaries about Abba. Documentaries about the article's subject (rather than works of the article's subject) are similar to further reading section or a recommended reading list, with the difference that they are in film format rather than a text format. Hence placing next to a Further reading section makes sense to me. However if the style guide suggests explicitly to place it elsewhere, then I'll have no objections against moving it. But as I currently read the styleguide, it simply doesn't deal with the documentaries case (as it is less common/non-stanndard appendix so far).--Kmhkmh (talk) 01:08, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Kmhkmh you have presented a dilema. There doesn't appear to be a single answer. It appears that a section referred to as "Works or publications" would be material by the subject (for biographies only). MOS:SO further states; Books or other works created by the subject of the article, under a section heading "Works", "Publications", "Discography", "Filmography", etc. as appropriate. Within the criteria presented it appears that a documentary "about" a subject, if not incorporated into the article, has no defined location. Since this surely cannot be the first time this has been approached it would seem likely there would be a solution.
Have you run across any similar articles for a president? This is the only one I recall seeing, however, I have not made a scuff mark in looking at the over 6,626,405 articles.
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